This is what Pro-Shariah folks here are fighting to impose on women and female children here.

MUSLIM CONGRESS RULES IN FAVOR OF FEMALE GENITAL MUTILATION
Posted on March 29th, 2010 with 52 Comments


IMAMS INSIST PRACTICE MUST BE MANDATORY
SUGGESTED AGE FOR MUTILATION: 7 DAYS
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Nahdlatul Ulama (NU), the leading Islamic organization in Indonesia with 30 million members, sanctioned pedophilia this weekend at its 32nd Congress, ruling that Muslim men may marry prepubescent girls as young as six, and also gave its stamp of approval on female genital mutilation.

The NU clerics ruled that female circumcision should not only be viewed as “sunnah” or “recommended but should be made mandatory throughout the Islamic world.

Several of the Sunni clerics in attendance offered suggestions that midwives and handmaids should employ while conducting partial clitoridectomies.

“Don’t cut too much. Just cut the small skin on the tip of the clitoris. Otherwise, a woman would lose her sexuality, and you males don’t like that to happen, do you?” prominent cleric KH Mohammad Masyhuri Naim told a press conference.

Mr. Masyhuri, who is also a member of NU Suriah (lawmaking body), said that a proper female circumcision should not cause any damage to woman genitals. “No bleeding, if you do it properly.”

He suggested that circumcision should be conducted on a female baby at the age of 7 days.

The NU religious leader also took an example of mass female circumcision in Bandung in the past which had triggered opposition from many Islam communities, some of which then considered female circumcision haram.

“That was not a good example of the way to conduct a female circumcision. The bad thing was that the media had blown the issue out of proportion,” Mr.Masyhuri said.

Nahdlatul Ulama has been the authoritative voice of Islam in Indonesia since 1926.

Lolo Soetoro, President Barack Obama’s stepfather, reportedly was a member in good standing of this organization until his death of liver cancer in 1981.

Scores of cases involving the genital mutilation of infant Muslim girls have been reported in the United States in recent years. On March 15, 2010, a Muslim woman was arrested in Le Grange, Georgia, for performing a life-threatening clitoridectomy on her newborn daughter.

140 million Muslim women throughout the world have been subjected to circumcision – - almost all in primitive and unsanitary settings.

The National Women’s Health Information Center reports that preventing minors from undergoing FGM is hampered by problems “with cultural adaptation, immigration status, economic issues, isolation and access to education and healthcare services.”

The Center further states that remains unlikely that a girl or woman experiencing complications from undergoing female genital mutilation will receive health care “because the fear of legal repercussions would be too strong.”

Although female genital mutilation is illegal under federal law, only seventeen states have passed legislation that criminalizes the practice on minors and children.

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I envision a world where I don't have to hear about sharia law.

many once felt the same about male circumcision


there is probably as much grey area between proper circumcision and castration/mutilation as there is between spanking and abusing


but its a highly emotional topic

circumcision is not harmful in any way but is a clean, safe,
surgery which has been demonstrated to have clear positive
medical advantages specifically in reduced HIV transmission
this is why it is recommended by WHO and many physicians.

circumcision has never been shown to have any negative effects
on sensation, satisfaction or sexuality. it is not at all
comparable in any way to female genital mutilation which has
no known medical benefit and has been demonstrated to reduce
the function, sensation and sexuality of many women who have
undergone these procedures.



WHO on circumcision:
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2007/pr10/en/index.html

WHO on female genital mutilation:
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs241/en/

The problem with any conversation about FGM is the same with most conversations - being clear about exactly what we are talking about.




For #1 - #3, I agree with s1owhand.

For #4, how is it decided whether a 'piercing' is 'harmful' ?

Only thing is, we're talking about young, children. Mostly, being held down, no anesthesia and by the Mother and another woman.

It's a cultural thing - you know - like circumcision! And how many still do THAT here in a free country????

Reading this actually turned my stomach.

The article is very slanted, just the title alone 'MUSLIM CONGRESS RULES IN FAVOR OF FEMALE GENITAL MUTILATION '


is slanted , considering the FACTS in the story

'The NU clerics ruled that female circumcision should not only be viewed as “sunnah” or “recommended but should be made mandatory throughout the Islamic world.'

like my previous analogy, this would be like congress giving parents the legal authority to spank their children and then me writing a piece claiming that 'US CONGRESS RULES IN FAVOR OF CHILD ABUSE'

I read the article and the title seems pretty accurate. But even if the title was not that accurate, .... what has that got to do with the facts in the article?

I don't see any justification for female parts removal.

Huh? Since they are recommending that female genital mutilation
be mandatory in the Islamic world - they are certainly in favor
of female genital mutilation!

it is more like congress making it mandatory to cane your children
periodically when they have done nothing wrong!

At the end of the day its simply barbaric.

where did 'they' recommend 'mutilation' as opposed to 'circumcision( a practice still recommended in WESTERN culture for boys)

What is a clitoral circumcision? I mean, I guess it nice and all that they emphasis "just the tip! only a little!' but I mean, WTH, why are they clipping the **** at all? (Rhetorical: I know some of their reasons, I just don't approve and don't consider it comparable to male circumcision).

I get the feeling that they are using the word 'circumcision' just to soften the perception of the action by using the same word as used for a familiar, approved action.

But I could be wrong. I'm curious what makes a clitoral 'circumcision' a circumcision, and different from "clipping of an arbitrary piece of ****'.

On the topic of abusing language, I also think its messed up that all of these actions are termed 'mutilation'. Mutilation, to me, is when you severely damage something, often to the point where its been rendered unrecognizable. All of it (clipping, cutting, piercing) sounds awful to me if done against the persons will (and infants can't give informed consent) - but simply clipping, cutting, or piercing is not always mutilation. Actual mutilation does occur in some of these subcultures, and thats even worse. I think the term FGM is a biased term to being with, lumping mutilation with slight clipping. Both sides are using biased terms.

As usual we get those who defend Sharia law,terrorist,wife beating,underage marriage and now of course genital mutilation.

Of course our usual people in here who scream how bad those tea party people are won't miss a second to defend anything that reduces women to nothing but a battered,bloody,piece of dog meat for the men to have their way with.


This is just another tradition from your usual peace loving Muslims.Female genital mutilation is brought to you by Islam and is practiced every day with millions of victims.

http://www.examiner.com/statehouse-in-santa-ana/islam-the-degradation-of-women-through-female-genital-mutilation


Female genital mutilation is an ancient practice done mainly in African Muslim nations to females aging from babies to 15. It is a procedure that intentionally alters or injures female genital organs for unnecessary and non-medical reasons. It has no health benefits; it can cause severe bleeding, problems urinating, causing bladder infections, childbirth complications and newborn deaths. In Africa an estimated 92 million girls from 10 years of age and above have undergone FGM.





http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs241/en/


Female genital mutilation (FGM) includes procedures that intentionally alter or injure female genital organs for non-medical reasons.
The procedure has no health benefits for girls and women.
Procedures can cause severe bleeding and problems urinating, and later, potential childbirth complications and newborn deaths.
An estimated 100 to 140 million girls and women worldwide are currently living with the consequences of FGM.
It is mostly carried out on young girls sometime between infancy and age 15 years.
In Africa an estimated 92 million girls from 10 years of age and above have undergone FGM.
FGM is internationally recognized as a violation of the human rights of girls and women.

Female genital mutilation (FGM) comprises all procedures that involve partial or total removal of the external female genitalia, or other injury to the female genital organs for non-medical reasons.


The practice is mostly carried out by traditional circumcisers, who often play other central roles in communities, such as attending childbirths. Increasingly, however, FGM is being performed by health care providers.

FGM is recognized internationally as a violation of the human rights of girls and women. It reflects deep-rooted inequality between the sexes, and constitutes an extreme form of discrimination against women. It is nearly always carried out on minors and is a violation of the rights of children. The practice also violates a person's rights to health, security and physical integrity, the right to be free from torture and cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment, and the right to life when the procedure results in death.

Procedures


Female genital mutilation is classified into four major types.

Clitoridectomy: partial or total removal of the clitoris (a small, sensitive and erectile part of the female genitals) and, in very rare cases, only the prepuce (the fold of skin surrounding the clitoris).
Excision: partial or total removal of the clitoris and the labia minora, with or without excision of the labia majora (the labia are "the lips" that surround the vagina).
Infibulation: narrowing of the vaginal opening through the creation of a covering seal. The seal is formed by cutting and repositioning the inner, or outer, labia, with or without removal of the clitoris.
Other: all other harmful procedures to the female genitalia for non-medical purposes, e.g. pricking, piercing, incising, scraping and cauterizing the genital area.
No health benefits, only harm
FGM has no health benefits, and it harms girls and women in many ways. It involves removing and damaging healthy and normal female genital tissue, and interferes with the natural functions of girls' and women's bodies.

Immediate complications can include severe pain, shock, haemorrhage (bleeding), tetanus or sepsis (bacterial infection), urine retention, open sores in the genital region and injury to nearby genital tissue.

Long-term consequences can include:

recurrent bladder and urinary tract infections;
cysts;
infertility;
an increased risk of childbirth complications and newborn deaths;
the need for later surgeries. For example, the FGM procedure that seals or narrows a vaginal opening (type 3 above) needs to be cut open later to allow for sexual intercourse and childbirth. Sometimes it is stitched again several times, including after childbirth, hence the woman goes through repeated opening and closing

you should read the potential risks for breast implants, a rather popular CULTURAL procedure of the west,,,,


it all comes down to procedure being done correctly or carelessly, and it can happen with ANY medical procedure,,,

Thanks for that pathetic cop out response.Lets just dodge the subject at hand and focus on something totally unrelated in every way possible.

A hundred million women get their gentiles mutilated against their will and your response is....breast implants.

Thanks.I'm sure all those millions of women who went through the worst pain in their lives and will continue to suffer and even die from complications will know there is women in America who are having painless surgery,on their own free will,to make their breasts look more attractive.

Wow I bet they are glad they are not living in America!

circumcision is practiced in the west on MILLIONS of baby boys without their consent and against their WILL,, it is due to western CULTURE

circumcision of girls in the EAST is also cultural and no better or worse than our cultural custom with the boys

it is also no less or more risky than any other medical procedure we do in the west DAILY for purposes of vanity so I fail to see where we can take a higher ground on the issue of the necessity or safety of medical procedures

they are either done professionally or carelessly,, whatever the procedure

condoning circumcision (careful medical procedure)does not equate to condoning mutilation (careless medical procedure)

Male circumcision is done for health reasons and any doctor will recommend it.Female circumcision serves no purpose and Female mutilation is nothing less than barbaric torture.Both are exclusive to Islam.


No worse than our culture huh?I guess if that is the case we should introduce Female Genital Mutilation here?No big deal.I'm sure there would be a long line of Muslim women up to age 15 just waiting to get their most prizes parts cut,slashed and removed for no benefit to them what so ever.Maybe you should get it done if you support it?

No wonder this country is going straight down the tubes.With thinking like that I can see now why some people elected Obama.

logical thinking? yeah, its taking us down the tubes,,,,

anyhow

there is an intentional flipping of terms here from circumcision to mutilation,,,they are two seperate things

as for any doctor recommending circumcision...

Studies about the benefits of circumcision have provided conflicting results. Some studies show certain benefits, while other studies do not. The American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) says the benefits of circumcision are not significant enough to recommend circumcision as a routine procedure and that circumcision is not medically necessary. The American Academy of Family Physicians believes parents should discuss with their son's doctor the potential benefits and the risks involved when making their decision.

Circumcision does offer some benefit in preventing urinary tract infections in infants. Circumcision also offers some benefit in preventing penile cancer in adult men. However, this disease is very rare in all men, whether or not they have been circumcised. Circumcision may reduce the risk of sexually transmitted diseases. A man's sexual practices (e.g., if he uses condoms, if he has more than one partner, etc.) has more to do with STI (sexually transmitted infection) prevention than whether or not he is circumcised.

Study results are mixed about whether circumcision may help reduce the risk of cervical cancer in female sex partners, and whether it helps prevent certain problems with the penis, such as infections and unwanted swelling. Some studies show that keeping the penis clean can help prevent these problems just as well as circumcision. Infections and unwanted swelling are not serious and can usually be easily treated if they do occur.

from http://familydoctor.org/online/famdocen/home/men/reproductive/042.html