LoL. What do you think your conscience is? Your conscience is God speaking to you. EVERYTHING I said works together, no contradictions.



No, you misunderstood me. Your conscience, that guilty feeling you have while doing something you aren't to do is God speaking to you. I said BOTH are equally important. Cause if you had just that guilty feeling you wouldn't know what you're feeling guilty for and or that you were even feeling that it was wrong. That is where the bible comes in, the bible tells us straight up what is right and what is wrong, and why we feel guilty for doing certain things.

The good lord put him out of his misery. The lord works in mysterious ways. It was God's will, and his time to be called to our father. He's in heaven now. Everyone go back to work and live out the rest of your lives knowing that when your time comes it will be the good lord's will too.

Amen.

Cookies and Koolaid will be served in the cafeteria. Reverend Soothings will be down shortly with prayers and a tribute to the deceased.

But this is indeed a humongous contradiction.

The Bible tells us that it's wrong to renounce that it is the "Word of God" and it's also tells us that it's wrong to deny that Jesus is Lord and the only begotten son of God.

Yet I do both of these things with absolutely no feelings of guilt whatsoever.

Therefore there's a huge contradiction here.

So you're saying you wouldn't feel guilty at all for doing something as walking down the street and randomly just kicking the crap out of someone? You wouldn't get a guilty feeling for stealing something?

No, I didn't say anything even remotely close to that.

I said:

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But this is indeed a humongous contradiction.

The Bible tells us that it's wrong to renounce that it is the "Word of God" and it's also tells us that it's wrong to deny that Jesus is Lord and the only begotten son of God.

Yet I do both of these things with absolutely no feelings of guilt whatsoever.

Therefore there's a huge contradiction here.

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That's what I said Cowboy. Do you see anything in there about beating the crap out of anyone or stealing anything?

I certainly don't.

No but answer the question. A sin is a sin my friend. Doesn't matter if it's stealing, fighting, lying, or other. So please answer the question.

And if there isn't a war being fought inside of you why do you spend so much time on here trying to point out something bad in the Christian faith? For Christianity ONLY spreads love, we are to love thy neighbour as ourselves, meaning we are to take care of people when they are in need just as we do for ourselves. Where is the bad thing about Christianity?

I feel there is guilt inside of you and this is your way of dealing with the frustration caused by the guilt.

It's the epitome of religious bigotry.

You claim that it's all about loving others.

Well, if you truly love others then respect them for what they believe.

Otherwise your concept of "love" is a false concept.

It doesn't matter what belief one has, the colour of their skin, their height, their weight, or any other attribute, Christians LOVE all, treat all with the same respect, would care for all the same. There is no discrimination in the love of Christianity.

Mark 12:31
And the second is like, namely this, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. There is none other commandment greater than these

This doesn't teach us to love our tall neighbours, doesn't say to love certain neighbours at our digression. We are to love ALL the same. That would include respecting their beliefs and not treating them any different because of it.

And this would also inform us to take care of our neighbours in times of need as well. Help them as we would help ourselves.

Oh but they don't.

"Christians" do not treat gay couples with the same respect that they give to heterosexual couples.

So you're living a lie if you think that Christians treat everyone the same.

They also don't respect other people's religions and spiritual views the same as they view their own.

If I tell you that I worship God through the Goddess Cerridwen and other spiritual archetypes, do you fully respect that with the same love and respect you'd give to someone who claims to worship God through Jesus?

If not, then you're in extremely denial of your bigotry and I hold that you are a hypocrite.

If so, then what's your problem with me and my views?

All I'm saying is that I believe the Old Testament is totally false mythology, Jesus was a Buddhist, and the New Testament was gossip.

That's my BELIEF.

Do you respect my beliefs the same as you respect the beliefs of your follow Christians?

Or do you hold religious bigotry against me?

Because that seems to be our only point of disagreement.

Show me the respect you're talking about and I'll believe you.

Until then you're just blowing hot air.

Oh but we do. We may not condone to their activities, but nevertheless we treat them with the same respect and would help them just as we would help a heterosexual.



Again, we may not condone to their beliefs. But we treat them no different then we would a Christian.



Yes indeed. If we knew each other off the net, I would treat you no different then people at church and or any other Christian.



I have no "problems" with your views. Though your views on Christianity are quite perverted and distorted as i've show in the past. You tend to misconstrue verses and or take them out of context which they then loose their original meaning.



I respect your beliefs, that's the beliefs you've made. Nothing I can do to change that, so therefore there's no reason to get offensive or hurt just because you wish to believe that. Again, not trying to change your beliefs, just merely spreading the word of God. Now if you wish to change your views to Christianity that is your choice.



I have NEVER said you were stupid for your beliefs, never said anything negative particularly about YOUR beliefs. The only thing i've done is show what God has said on certain incidents throughout the different conversations we've had in this forum.

Did God or Jesus say anywhere while you live on this planet you will have no worries,no diseases,no problems,and live a healthy care free life?Far from it.The bible says that life is not easy and is full of all sorts of problems including death,illness,and poverty.

Even Jesus's own apostle had anything but care free lives.Most of them died horrible deaths or were locked in prison for years.

as Paul the apostle says....


2 Corinthians 11:25/26

Three times I have been beaten with rods; once I was stoned.Three times I have been shipwrecked; a night and a day I have been adrift at sea;on frequent journeys, in danger from rivers, danger from robbers, danger from my own people, danger from Gentiles, danger in the city, danger in the wilderness, danger at sea, danger from false brethren;


One of the things that makes Christianity the great religion that is it today is all the millions of stories of faith people have given in hard times.As a Christian I know every good thing comes from God and ever bad thing(such as cancer)comes from Satan.So if you are going to stomp and curse someone for tornadoes and cancer I would be cursing Satan.

God does heal and God does perform miracles every day.There is millions of testimonies of people being healed from deafness to caner.Here are just a few examples.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRNULaTF0I4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlxxTfG6cUs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJfKaGTtvmg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_mBaCqRc94&feature=related

And I have never said that you are stupid for your beliefs.

However, you have never shown me what "God" has said. All you have ever shown me is what the authors of the bible have said.

I've pointed out why I think those ancient fables are stupid and make no sense.

If you take that to mean that I'm suggesting that your beliefs are stupid then so be it. I can't help that. I'm not going to lie about my honest sincere opinions of the biblical fables in an effort to keep you from hurting yourself emotionally from being overly sensitive.

I'm mean we're discussing a BOOK here that claims to be the 'Word' of our creator. My opinion is that I feel it's a stupid book. Your opinion is that it somehow represents wisdom.

For you to take my "Book Review" as a personal insult to you simply because we disagree on how we each perceive is your own personal problem.

If you can't review a book as a mature adult without taking it personally, then the only thing I would suggest is to steer clear of forums were people are exchanging their "Book Reviews".

All is good, nothing took personally.

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To interject here:
NOTE: this verse indicates that the Old Covenant IS the covenant as God had given it to Moses when he brought them out of the land of Egypt. We KNOW, then, that Moses was given ALL of the laws regarding the OLD Covenant – that included the 10 commandments.

If there is still a question as to whether the 10 commandments were part of the OLD Covenant, here are several other proofs:

Exodus 31:16-18
Exodus 34:27-28
Deuteronomy 4:13
Deuteronomy 9:9:
1 Kings 8:9,21:
2 Chronicles 6:11

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NOTE:
The interpretation of v.33 is not complete. A very important element is missing “AFTER those days, saith the LORD..” he will write the (New)law in their hearts AFTER those days. Inside – not written as the old law had been, but INSIDE of men.

2ND NOTE:
The OLD covenant will be in place until it is fulfilled – and replaced with the New Covenant. When will that happen? AFTER those days! Now CONSIDER the following questions:

Did Jesus EVER follow anything other than the Old Covenant?

While he lived did Jesus ever preach, teach, or tell others to practice anything other than the Law of the Old Covenant as written through Moses?

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Here, it seems clear, that God does not intend for ANYONE to teach others about Him by teaching LAWs in the old way of the old covenant, they did no good ELSE why would they need to be ‘fulfilled’ and replaced with the new covenant (the new law) to be inside of every man, written in his heart?

How else could God forgive iniquity & forget sinful behavior unless the New Covenant could be found INSIDE (with) every man???

The law is inside everyone of us. If people are 100% honest and sincere with themselves, they know what they are to do and what they are not to do if they truly sit and think about it. Ponder on the idea. People KNOW it's wrong to murder, without anyone telling them as such, if they truly sat down and thought about what they were doing. That is why some forms of punishment governments use is solitary. This allows the person a LOT of time to sit and think about what got him/her in this situation they are in. And the same applies to all sins not just the previously used example of murder.

The laws of the old covenant and the laws of the new covenanet are pretty much the same. The only real big difference between the two is when we will be judged. We've always been judged by the word, old and new testament. Just in the new testament is when the word was made flesh and dwelt with us, eg., Jesus. So now the word can carry out the punishment of disobediance on it's own and doesn't need us to do it like it was in the old testament. Here's some of the 10 commandments in the new testament, I can find all if needed.

In Matthew 22, Christ summarized the first four commandments, saying, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the first and great commandment” (vs. 37-38).

Centuries later, Christ said that anyone who wants to enter eternal life must keep these same commandments: “You shall do no murder [Sixth Commandment], You shall not commit adultery [Seventh Commandment], You shall not steal [Eighth Commandment], You shall not bear false witness [Ninth Commandment], Honor your father and your mother [Fifth Commandment]” (Matt. 19:18-19). Christ summarized these as “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” the second greatest commandment (Matt. 22:39).

Ab, do you love others?

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So without the sacrifice there would have been NO NEW Covenant. If that’s what you’re saying then the Old Covenant was still in place including the prophecy’s of Jesus birth, death & resurrection – So the New Covenant could not have made to replace the Old Covenant UNLESS the old was fulfilled AFTER Jesus death.

Does that sound correct to you?

Not exactly. The sacrifice was only a part of the new covenant. The only main thing to the sacrifice itself was that we now don't have to sacrifice animals and such for forgiveness of our sins, for the blood of Jesus was the ultimate sacrifice.

Again, the biggest difference between the old and new covenant is when we will be judged. The old covenant allowed judgement to be done on earth by our peers. The new covenant has the word himself judging us, Jesus. In the times the old covenant held power the word had not been made into flesh yet, thus our peers had to carry out the judgement. And again now since the word has become flesh, Jesus. We are still judged by the word, but now the word can carry out the judgement itself.