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Topic: The Bible ... fables, fact, fantasy or fakery?
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Tue 10/19/10 11:29 AM
Edited by blurblurb on Tue 10/19/10 11:32 AM


That's just your understanding of The Bible.

The Bible makes it clear that Adam, had a beginning of days; it even tells you, it was the 6th day.



The Bible also talks about a man who is without beginning of days, whose decent is not counted from them; but, he received tithes of Abraham, and Levi.



His name is in Genesis, but, he's not descended from Adam; The Bible calls him greater than Abraham.




But he whose descent is not counted from them received tithes of Abraham, and blessed him that had the promises.

And without all contradiction the less is blessed of the better.

Heb.7:6-7






perhaps deception is your understanding of the bible...which is why the thread asks for proof if the passage or stories that are presented are fact or fakery......if a passage about a first man is not in Genesis "In The Beginning" ...then it's fakery

the fact that you can not produce the name of that Man also proves fakery







I showed you a verse that showed you a man who is is without beginning of days, you asked for it to be from The"KJV;"Bible now you're trying to change the rules, and it has to be in Genesis too?




If you think a man who's beginning is clearly identified in The Bible, came before a man who The Bible say's.... is "Without beginning...."


Do the math....

Which came first?

Something without a beginning? or, something with a beginning?






For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him;

To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;

Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils.

And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham:

But he whose descent is not counted from them received tithes of Abraham, and blessed him that had the promises.

And without all contradiction the less is blessed of the better.

And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth.

And as I may so say, Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham.

For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchisedec met him.

Hebrews 7:1-10





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Tue 10/19/10 11:36 AM

I showed you a verse that showed you a man who is is without beginning of days, you asked for it to be from The"KJV;"Bible now you're trying to change the rules, and it has to be in Genesis too?


no one is changing the rules...the thread is not about only showing a passage it's obvious that people would do that ..which is why the thread ask you to prove that the passage is either fact or fakery ....

you claim that a Man existed before Adam but yet you can't even provide a name of that Man and Genesis makes no mention of such a man being before Adam....that is why the passage that you presented was that of fakery

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Tue 10/19/10 11:44 AM


I showed you a verse that showed you a man who is is without beginning of days, you asked for it to be from The"KJV;"Bible now you're trying to change the rules, and it has to be in Genesis too?


no one is changing the rules...the thread is not about only showing a passage it's obvious that people would do that ..which is why the thread ask you to prove that the passage is either fact or fakery ....

you claim that a Man existed before Adam but yet you can't even provide a name of that Man and Genesis makes no mention of such a man being before Adam....that is why the passage that you presented was that of fakery





I provided the name of the man I was talking about.




Will you please prove, the things you claim about Adam being the first man, are not fakery?








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Tue 10/19/10 11:46 AM



I showed you a verse that showed you a man who is is without beginning of days, you asked for it to be from The"KJV;"Bible now you're trying to change the rules, and it has to be in Genesis too?


no one is changing the rules...the thread is not about only showing a passage it's obvious that people would do that ..which is why the thread ask you to prove that the passage is either fact or fakery ....

you claim that a Man existed before Adam but yet you can't even provide a name of that Man and Genesis makes no mention of such a man being before Adam....that is why the passage that you presented was that of fakery





I provided the name of the man I was talking about.




Will you please prove, the things you claim about Adam being the first man, are not fakery?










exactly. We've shown proof that he is. Weather you wish to give the evidence credit or not is you're own personal perception but nevertheless holds no grounds for you've not shown evidence of it being other wise.

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Tue 10/19/10 11:48 AM




I showed you a verse that showed you a man who is is without beginning of days, you asked for it to be from The"KJV;"Bible now you're trying to change the rules, and it has to be in Genesis too?


no one is changing the rules...the thread is not about only showing a passage it's obvious that people would do that ..which is why the thread ask you to prove that the passage is either fact or fakery ....

you claim that a Man existed before Adam but yet you can't even provide a name of that Man and Genesis makes no mention of such a man being before Adam....that is why the passage that you presented was that of fakery





I provided the name of the man I was talking about.




Will you please prove, the things you claim about Adam being the first man, are not fakery?










exactly. We've shown proof that he is. Weather you wish to give the evidence credit or not is you're own personal perception but nevertheless holds no grounds for you've not shown evidence of it being other wise.


I'm sorry, i replied without fully reading what was being said in exacts. My comment is going to Adam being the first man. There is evidence of Adam being the first man, now weather it is accepted as true or not is a personal perspective. But nevertheless there is evidence that he was.

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Tue 10/19/10 11:49 AM
Edited by blurblurb on Tue 10/19/10 11:50 AM







I provided the name of the man I was talking about.




Will you please prove, the things you claim about Adam being the first man, are not fakery?










exactly. We've shown proof that he is. Weather you wish to give the evidence credit or not is you're own personal perception but nevertheless holds no grounds for you've not shown evidence of it being other wise.





You talked about The Bible, I showed verses in The Bible, the guy you claim first, has a beginning.


The guy who I was talking about, and even pasted the verses about, is clearly without beginning of days.




What did you prove?




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Tue 10/19/10 11:54 AM



You talked about The Bible, I showed verses in The Bible, the guy you claim first, has a beginning.


The guy who I was talking about, and even pasted the verses about, is clearly without beginning of days.




What did you prove?






can't prove anything until you gives the name of the guy you are referring to ..can you do it or not ...if you claim that you already have then perhaps the moderators accidently deleted it...so can you give the name again? ....pretty please with sugar on it

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Tue 10/19/10 11:58 AM








I provided the name of the man I was talking about.




Will you please prove, the things you claim about Adam being the first man, are not fakery?










exactly. We've shown proof that he is. Weather you wish to give the evidence credit or not is you're own personal perception but nevertheless holds no grounds for you've not shown evidence of it being other wise.





You talked about The Bible, I showed verses in The Bible, the guy you claim first, has a beginning.


The guy who I was talking about, and even pasted the verses about, is clearly without beginning of days.




What did you prove?





Evidence that God created man. Weather you want to give accountability to this is your own personal perception. Nothing is evidence or proof of anything less it is accepted as such.

Genesis 1:26-27
26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, [a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

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Tue 10/19/10 12:32 PM
Edited by RKISIT on Tue 10/19/10 12:36 PM
it's false cause really think about this

some super being realized he/she/it could use his/hers/its magical finger and poof everthing into existence while he/she/it repeatedly played the "1812 overture" by Tchaikovsky while sipping on some Martini and Rossi asti spumante,saying things like "look what can do","iam the shizznit"or "i wanna jump back and kiss myself"?





MESSEGElaugh drinker

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Tue 10/19/10 12:40 PM
Edited by blurblurb on Tue 10/19/10 12:53 PM




You talked about The Bible, I showed verses in The Bible, the guy you claim first, has a beginning.


The guy who I was talking about, and even pasted the verses about, is clearly without beginning of days.




What did you prove?






can't prove anything until you gives the name of the guy you are referring to ..can you do it or not ...if you claim that you already have then perhaps the moderators accidently deleted it...so can you give the name again? ....pretty please with sugar on it







It's still there, in the post at the top of this page.





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Tue 10/19/10 01:02 PM
Edited by blurblurb on Tue 10/19/10 01:06 PM









I provided the name of the man I was talking about.




Will you please prove, the things you claim about Adam being the first man, are not fakery?










exactly. We've shown proof that he is. Weather you wish to give the evidence credit or not is you're own personal perception but nevertheless holds no grounds for you've not shown evidence of it being other wise.





You talked about The Bible, I showed verses in The Bible, the guy you claim first, has a beginning.


The guy who I was talking about, and even pasted the verses about, is clearly without beginning of days.




What did you prove?





Evidence that God created man. Weather you want to give accountability to this is your own personal perception. Nothing is evidence or proof of anything less it is accepted as such.

Genesis 1:26-27
26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, [a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground."







How does that prove, Adam came before the man? who is......"Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually."
Heb 7:3








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Tue 10/19/10 01:17 PM


It's still there, in the post at the top of this page.


BlurBlur.....I see no name there.....so are you going to post it or not...I already said pretty please with sugar on it

instead of posting a ramble..post the name ..

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Tue 10/19/10 01:30 PM



It's still there, in the post at the top of this page.


BlurBlur.....I see no name there.....so are you going to post it or not...I already said pretty please with sugar on it

instead of posting a ramble..post the name ..






There is a name posted there.

Instead of posting a ramble, please take the time to read, what I wrote.

I took the time to research, reference, and post it, because you asked for it.

That was after giving you many references which would have led you to an in-depth discussion about him, including his name, and the meaning of it.




I cut and pasted many verses for you, which have his name at the beginning of them.
They are at the top of this page.


Pretty please..with sugar on it... read what I researched, and posted at your request.




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Tue 10/19/10 03:15 PM




It's still there, in the post at the top of this page.


BlurBlur.....I see no name there.....so are you going to post it or not...I already said pretty please with sugar on it

instead of posting a ramble..post the name ..






There is a name posted there.

Instead of posting a ramble, please take the time to read, what I wrote.

I took the time to research, reference, and post it, because you asked for it.

That was after giving you many references which would have led you to an in-depth discussion about him, including his name, and the meaning of it.




I cut and pasted many verses for you, which have his name at the beginning of them.
They are at the top of this page.


Pretty please..with sugar on it... read what I researched, and posted at your request.
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I already checked...didn't see any name of a Man in that post that was before Adam .....sorry

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