Topic: The Bible ... fables, fact, fantasy or fakery?
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Tue 10/19/10 08:06 AM




No, God didn't give Adam flesh before any other human.


That's not what The Bible says.




perhaps you should do a little research before you post


Genesis 2:23...."At last!" Adam exclaimed. "She is part of my own flesh and bone! She will be called `woman,' because she was taken out of a man."







Okay, since you're the one who is into research.... are you trying to claim there was no man before Adam?




that is what you have been trying to claim

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Tue 10/19/10 08:58 AM





No, God didn't give Adam flesh before any other human.


That's not what The Bible says.




perhaps you should do a little research before you post


Genesis 2:23...."At last!" Adam exclaimed. "She is part of my own flesh and bone! She will be called `woman,' because she was taken out of a man."







Okay, since you're the one who is into research.... are you trying to claim there was no man before Adam?




that is what you have been trying to claim





Where did I try to claim, there was no man before Adam?




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Tue 10/19/10 09:18 AM


Where did I try to claim, there was no man before Adam?



posted by blurblur
According to both science, and The Bible.... one human had flesh before any other humans...



blurblur...you tried to be deceptive by presenting a concept that contradicted itself...

a human can not have flesh before any other humans since the person in question is human

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Tue 10/19/10 09:29 AM
Edited by blurblurb on Tue 10/19/10 09:32 AM



Where did I try to claim, there was no man before Adam?



posted by blurblur
According to both science, and The Bible.... one human had flesh before any other humans...



blurblur...you tried to be deceptive by presenting a concept that contradicted itself...

a human can not have flesh before any other humans since the person in question is human





I have no intention of being deceptive.

Please look at what I've written, I'm serious; and, I'm not trying to deceive you in any way.

I'm not going real fast; but, I have points I'm trying to make that are not deceptive.



According to science, and The Bible, there was a first man.

At the time of the first human, there was only one human who could possibly have flesh, there were no other humans in existence, except the one.... for a certain amount of time.



Can we agree on that?





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Tue 10/19/10 09:36 AM




Where did I try to claim, there was no man before Adam?



posted by blurblur
According to both science, and The Bible.... one human had flesh before any other humans...



blurblur...you tried to be deceptive by presenting a concept that contradicted itself...

a human can not have flesh before any other humans since the person in question is human





I have no intention of being deceptive.

Please look at what I've written, I'm serious; and, I'm not trying to deceive you in any way.

I'm not going real fast; but, I have points I'm trying to make that are not deceptive.



According to science, and The Bible, there was a first man.

At the time of the first human, there was only one human who could possibly have flesh, there were mo other humans, except the one.... for a certain amount of time.



Can we agree on that?







not necessarily in science because you're leaving out the possibility of a species instantly mutating into flesh ,an example of this possiblitiy is how the exoskeleton of the green grasshoppers instantly turn brown and turn them into a species of locusts that swarm...

and not in the bible because according to the bible adam was the first human with flesh

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Tue 10/19/10 09:47 AM
Edited by blurblurb on Tue 10/19/10 09:54 AM





Where did I try to claim, there was no man before Adam?



posted by blurblur
According to both science, and The Bible.... one human had flesh before any other humans...



blurblur...you tried to be deceptive by presenting a concept that contradicted itself...

a human can not have flesh before any other humans since the person in question is human





I have no intention of being deceptive.

Please look at what I've written, I'm serious; and, I'm not trying to deceive you in any way.

I'm not going real fast; but, I have points I'm trying to make that are not deceptive.



According to science, and The Bible, there was a first man.

At the time of the first human, there was only one human who could possibly have flesh, there were mo other humans, except the one.... for a certain amount of time.



Can we agree on that?







not necessarily in science because you're leaving out the possibility of a species instantly mutating into flesh ,an example of this possiblitiy is how the exoskeleton of the green grasshoppers instantly turn brown and turn them into a species of locusts that swarm...

and not in the bible because according to the bible adam was the first human with flesh



I don't see the comparison...?

A swarm of grass hoppers can change colors, mutate into locusts and swarm; we can see that happen.


If whole herds of apes suddenly turned onto humans; shouldn't that still happen, shouldn't we be able to see it?







But... I'm going to disagree with you, on The Bible, which is all here, we don't need to debate on what ifs? and apes.


Adam is the first man mentioned in The Bible; but, there is another man who was before Adam, named in The Bible.





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Tue 10/19/10 09:51 AM
Edited by blurblurb on Tue 10/19/10 09:53 AM
oops double post


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Tue 10/19/10 09:56 AM
Edited by funches on Tue 10/19/10 09:57 AM

I don't see the comparison...?

A swarm of grass hoppers can change colors, mutate into locusts and swarm; we can see that happen.


If whole herds of apes suddenly turned onto humans; shouldn't that still happen, shouldn't we be able to see it?


haven't you heard of the missing link ...mutation could explain that




But... I'm going to disagree with you, on The Bible, which is all here, we don't need to debate on what ifs? and apes.

Adam is not the first man in The Bible.


are you referring to humans or aliens?

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Tue 10/19/10 09:57 AM
Edited by blurblurb on Tue 10/19/10 10:00 AM

I don't see the comparison...?

A swarm of grass hoppers can change colors, mutate into locusts and swarm; we can see that happen.


If whole herds of apes suddenly turned onto humans; shouldn't that still happen, shouldn't we be able to see it?


haven't you heard of the missing link ...mutation could explain that




But... I'm going to disagree with you, on The Bible, which is all here, we don't need to debate on what ifs? and apes.

Adam is not the first man in The Bible.


are you referring to humans or aliens?










I'm just referring to a man.








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Tue 10/19/10 10:02 AM

haven't you heard of the missing link ...mutation could explain that






It's still missing, isn't it?




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Tue 10/19/10 10:02 AM
Edited by funches on Tue 10/19/10 10:03 AM


I'm just referring to a man.


ok then according to the bible (kjv) that man is Adam ...remember you said that you wasn't going to disagree with the bible since it's all there

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Tue 10/19/10 10:04 AM


haven't you heard of the missing link ...mutation could explain that


It's still missing, isn't it?



not according to mutation...

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Tue 10/19/10 10:07 AM
Edited by blurblurb on Tue 10/19/10 10:10 AM



I'm just referring to a man.


ok then according to the bible (kjv) that man is Adam ...remember you said that you wasn't going to disagree with the bible since it's all there





No, that's not what The Bible say's.

That's what your understanding of The Bible says.




I can prove to you... The "KJV" Bible says, there was a man who was before Adam.





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Tue 10/19/10 10:10 AM

I can prove to you... The "KJV" Bible says, there is a man who was before Adam.


if you could..you would have done so already ...

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Tue 10/19/10 10:19 AM
Edited by blurblurb on Tue 10/19/10 10:25 AM


I can prove to you... The "KJV" Bible says, there is a man who was before Adam.


if you could..you would have done so already ...




No, I was just waiting.....



Adam was created 6 days after the beginning.




This man, is without beginning of days; he's also the oldest living man in The Bible, if you thought the oldest was Methuselah, and/or the first was Adam, you were wrong....




Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

Heb. 7:3


Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils.

Heb. 7:4










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Tue 10/19/10 10:30 AM



I can prove to you... The "KJV" Bible says, there is a man who was before Adam.


if you could..you would have done so already ...




No, I was just waiting.....



Adam was created 6 days after the beginning.




This man, is without beginning of days; he's also the oldest living man in The Bible, if you thought the oldest was Methuselah, and/or the first was Adam, you were wrong....




Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

Heb. 7:3


Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils.

Heb. 7:4





oh oh...here's comes the deception again...so give the name of that Man so I can see if that name is in Genesis "In The Beginning.....or are you also going to take 6 days to create the name of the man

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Tue 10/19/10 10:34 AM
Edited by blurblurb on Tue 10/19/10 10:37 AM




I can prove to you... The "KJV" Bible says, there is a man who was before Adam.


if you could..you would have done so already ...




No, I was just waiting.....



Adam was created 6 days after the beginning.




This man, is without beginning of days; he's also the oldest living man in The Bible, if you thought the oldest was Methuselah, and/or the first was Adam, you were wrong....




Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

Heb. 7:3


Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils.

Heb. 7:4





oh oh...here's comes the deception again...so give the name of that Man so I can see if that name is in Genesis "In The Beginning.....or are you also going to take 6 days to create the name of the man





Why would his name be in the genealogies?


His decent is not counted from Adam; my last post on him agrees with that too...


Heb. 7:8 But he whose descent is not counted from them received tithes of Abraham, and blessed him that had the promises.




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Tue 10/19/10 10:47 AM





I can prove to you... The "KJV" Bible says, there is a man who was before Adam.


if you could..you would have done so already ...




No, I was just waiting.....



Adam was created 6 days after the beginning.




This man, is without beginning of days; he's also the oldest living man in The Bible, if you thought the oldest was Methuselah, and/or the first was Adam, you were wrong....




Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

Heb. 7:3


Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils.

Heb. 7:4





oh oh...here's comes the deception again...so give the name of that Man so I can see if that name is in Genesis "In The Beginning.....or are you also going to take 6 days to create the name of the man





Why would his name be in the genealogies?


His decent is not counted from Adam; my last post on him agrees with that too...


Heb. 7:8 But he whose descent is not counted from them received tithes of Abraham, and blessed him that had the promises.






as I said deception...and the bible made failsafes for those that try to spread false testimony ....and that is why if the guy's name is not in Genesis "In The Beginning" saying that he's the first man ....then he's not the first Man

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Tue 10/19/10 10:57 AM
Edited by blurblurb on Tue 10/19/10 10:58 AM






I can prove to you... The "KJV" Bible says, there is a man who was before Adam.


if you could..you would have done so already ...




No, I was just waiting.....



Adam was created 6 days after the beginning.




This man, is without beginning of days; he's also the oldest living man in The Bible, if you thought the oldest was Methuselah, and/or the first was Adam, you were wrong....




Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

Heb. 7:3


Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils.

Heb. 7:4





oh oh...here's comes the deception again...so give the name of that Man so I can see if that name is in Genesis "In The Beginning.....or are you also going to take 6 days to create the name of the man





Why would his name be in the genealogies?


His decent is not counted from Adam; my last post on him agrees with that too...


Heb. 7:8 But he whose descent is not counted from them received tithes of Abraham, and blessed him that had the promises.






as I said deception...and the bible made failsafes for those that try to spread false testimony ....and that is why if the guy's name is not in Genesis "In The Beginning" saying that he's the first man ....then he's not the first Man





That's just your understanding of The Bible.

The Bible makes it clear that Adam, had a beginning of days; it even tells you, it was the 6th day.



The Bible also talks about a man who is without beginning of days, whose decent is not counted from them; but, he received tithes of Abraham, and Levi.



His name is in Genesis, but, he's not descended from Adam; The Bible calls him better than Abraham.




But he whose descent is not counted from them received tithes of Abraham, and blessed him that had the promises.

And without all contradiction the less is blessed of the better.

Heb.7:6-7





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Tue 10/19/10 11:04 AM

That's just your understanding of The Bible.

The Bible makes it clear that Adam, had a beginning of days; it even tells you, it was the 6th day.



The Bible also talks about a man who is without beginning of days, whose decent is not counted from them; but, he received tithes of Abraham, and Levi.



His name is in Genesis, but, he's not descended from Adam; The Bible calls him greater than Abraham.




But he whose descent is not counted from them received tithes of Abraham, and blessed him that had the promises.

And without all contradiction the less is blessed of the better.

Heb.7:6-7






perhaps deception is your understanding of the bible...which is why the thread asks for proof if the passage or stories that are presented are fact or fakery......if a passage about a first man is not in Genesis "In The Beginning" ...then it's fakery

the fact that you can not produce the name of that Man also proves fakery