Topic: The Bible ... fables, fact, fantasy or fakery?
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Sun 10/17/10 01:54 PM






John.8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily,verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.


Here we clearly have Jesus claiming to exist before Abraham even was.


The God of Abraham was "I Am"... Jesus was using parables saiding that "I Am" existed before Abraham ....he wasn't claiming that he was "I Am" because he was born from a woman and that was his alpha...


No, Jesus is the word made flesh. The word was with our father from the begining. Our father is the alpha and the omega, the begining and the end.


all humans are the word made of flesh...the word is that from God that he used to create... if Jesus was God there would be no need for him to call out to God...my God my God why hath thou forsaken me...no matter how many angles or theories it's just no way around that
see funches you have what i believe to be points that believers seem to miss,God created jesus for he used jesus to speak for him and jesus was god cause through him,(jesus) god spoke,but yes he did question his own father and also jesus screwed up on the ten commandments,jesus spoke the word defraud and the commandments never mention that,only in luke is defraud mentioned,so if he is the messiah wouldn't you think he would know the commandments?


What in the world? What defraud are you talking about? Please enlighten us with this defraud.

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Sun 10/17/10 01:59 PM






John.8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily,verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.


Here we clearly have Jesus claiming to exist before Abraham even was.


The God of Abraham was "I Am"... Jesus was using parables saiding that "I Am" existed before Abraham ....he wasn't claiming that he was "I Am" because he was born from a woman and that was his alpha...


No, Jesus is the word made flesh. The word was with our father from the begining. Our father is the alpha and the omega, the begining and the end.


all humans are the word made of flesh...the word is that from God that he used to create... if Jesus was God there would be no need for him to call out to God...my God my God why hath thou forsaken me...no matter how many angles or theories it's just no way around that


Jesus is not our father lol. Jesus is the word of our father made flesh.


come on Cowboy enough with that Trinity Hustle deception...where in the post did I use the term "Father" ...I used the term God which is what Jesus said...my god my god....so can you or can you not explain why Jesus had to call out to God if he was God

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Sun 10/17/10 01:59 PM







John.8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily,verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.


Here we clearly have Jesus claiming to exist before Abraham even was.


The God of Abraham was "I Am"... Jesus was using parables saiding that "I Am" existed before Abraham ....he wasn't claiming that he was "I Am" because he was born from a woman and that was his alpha...


No, Jesus is the word made flesh. The word was with our father from the begining. Our father is the alpha and the omega, the begining and the end.


all humans are the word made of flesh...the word is that from God that he used to create... if Jesus was God there would be no need for him to call out to God...my God my God why hath thou forsaken me...no matter how many angles or theories it's just no way around that
see funches you have what i believe to be points that believers seem to miss,God created jesus for he used jesus to speak for him and jesus was god cause through him,(jesus) god spoke,but yes he did question his own father and also jesus screwed up on the ten commandments,jesus spoke the word defraud and the commandments never mention that,only in luke is defraud mentioned,so if he is the messiah wouldn't you think he would know the commandments?


What in the world? What defraud are you talking about? Please enlighten us with this defraud.
dam ok, Mark 10:19

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Sun 10/17/10 02:02 PM
better quoted from your king james version

19Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother.


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Sun 10/17/10 02:04 PM








John.8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily,verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.


Here we clearly have Jesus claiming to exist before Abraham even was.


The God of Abraham was "I Am"... Jesus was using parables saiding that "I Am" existed before Abraham ....he wasn't claiming that he was "I Am" because he was born from a woman and that was his alpha...


No, Jesus is the word made flesh. The word was with our father from the begining. Our father is the alpha and the omega, the begining and the end.


all humans are the word made of flesh...the word is that from God that he used to create... if Jesus was God there would be no need for him to call out to God...my God my God why hath thou forsaken me...no matter how many angles or theories it's just no way around that
see funches you have what i believe to be points that believers seem to miss,God created jesus for he used jesus to speak for him and jesus was god cause through him,(jesus) god spoke,but yes he did question his own father and also jesus screwed up on the ten commandments,jesus spoke the word defraud and the commandments never mention that,only in luke is defraud mentioned,so if he is the messiah wouldn't you think he would know the commandments?


What in the world? What defraud are you talking about? Please enlighten us with this defraud.
dam ok, Mark 10:19


To defraud someone is to lie to them, to cheat them out of something. Is just another word for saying no not lie but in more of a broad aspect including cheating someone out of money ect.

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Sun 10/17/10 02:09 PM







John.8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily,verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.


Here we clearly have Jesus claiming to exist before Abraham even was.


The God of Abraham was "I Am"... Jesus was using parables saiding that "I Am" existed before Abraham ....he wasn't claiming that he was "I Am" because he was born from a woman and that was his alpha...


No, Jesus is the word made flesh. The word was with our father from the begining. Our father is the alpha and the omega, the begining and the end.


all humans are the word made of flesh...the word is that from God that he used to create... if Jesus was God there would be no need for him to call out to God...my God my God why hath thou forsaken me...no matter how many angles or theories it's just no way around that


Jesus is not our father lol. Jesus is the word of our father made flesh.


come on Cowboy enough with that Trinity Hustle deception...where in the post did I use the term "Father" ...I used the term God which is what Jesus said...my god my god....so can you or can you not explain why Jesus had to call out to God if he was God


When you said God. God is the father of all.And again, Jesus is not God. As my example has shown. But incase you didn't do it again. Pull one piece of hair out of your head. This piece of hair and you are two different beings but yet you and that hair is one.

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Sun 10/17/10 02:12 PM

When you said God. God is the father of all.And again, Jesus is not God.


cool...that's the only point I'm trying to make ...which is why if anyone claim that Jesus is God it would be "fakery"


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Sun 10/17/10 02:14 PM


When you said God. God is the father of all.And again, Jesus is not God.


cool...that's the only point I'm trying to make ...which is why if anyone claim that Jesus is God it would be "fakery"




Yes very true. Jesus is one with the father as your hair you were holding is one with you.

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Sun 10/17/10 02:17 PM

Pull one piece of hair out of your head. This piece of hair and you are two different beings but yet you and that hair is one.


I just did...but amazingly my hair did not call out ..My Funches, My Funches,..why hath thou pull me out...I even placed an ultra sound sensitive microphone to that piece of hair and still didnt hear anything

perhaps hair weave does that .....unbeweavable

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Sun 10/17/10 02:18 PM



When you said God. God is the father of all.And again, Jesus is not God.


cool...that's the only point I'm trying to make ...which is why if anyone claim that Jesus is God it would be "fakery"




Yes very true. Jesus is one with the father as your hair you were holding is one with you.


in that case as I said...everyone would be classified as being one with the father...since everyone is a piece of God's hair

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Sun 10/17/10 02:22 PM




When you said God. God is the father of all.And again, Jesus is not God.


cool...that's the only point I'm trying to make ...which is why if anyone claim that Jesus is God it would be "fakery"




Yes very true. Jesus is one with the father as your hair you were holding is one with you.


in that case as I said...everyone would be classified as being one with the father...since everyone is a piece of God's hair


Yes. And this comes from accepting Jesus Christ as lord and saviour. Cause with accepting that, you accept the sacrifice that was given for you, so that your previous sins can be forgiven. Once you have let the lord in your heart, he will give you strength and knowledge not to sin. And if you fall and stumble here and there he is offering forgiveness for your transgressions. Sin separates us from our father, and Jesus sacrificed himself for us so that we made be made perfect so that we may be in the presence of our father.

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Sun 10/17/10 02:23 PM
Edited by RKISIT on Sun 10/17/10 02:25 PM
but didn't god "create jesus" cause if you didn't believe jesus was your savior that you can't enter the kingdom of god? also through jesus he if you disobey god you can't enter the kingdom of god?jesus wasn't god? but wasn't he a aberration,spirit of god spiritually and through his preachings...seriously jesus was a manifestation or a set up by god...remember "follow me for i am the way"?god put jesus here...nevermind i guess i might have to whipout somemore verses

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Sun 10/17/10 02:24 PM


Pull one piece of hair out of your head. This piece of hair and you are two different beings but yet you and that hair is one.


I just did...but amazingly my hair did not call out ..My Funches, My Funches,..why hath thou pull me out...I even placed an ultra sound sensitive microphone to that piece of hair and still didnt hear anything

perhaps hair weave does that .....unbeweavable


Lol, that's pretty good funches. You are a very witty man with a sort of dry sense of humour. Just wish you used your powers for more productive things rather then trying to make a joke of the word of God.

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Sun 10/17/10 02:25 PM



Pull one piece of hair out of your head. This piece of hair and you are two different beings but yet you and that hair is one.


I just did...but amazingly my hair did not call out ..My Funches, My Funches,..why hath thou pull me out...I even placed an ultra sound sensitive microphone to that piece of hair and still didnt hear anything

perhaps hair weave does that .....unbeweavable


Lol, that's pretty good funches. You are a very witty man with a sort of dry sense of humour. Just wish you used your powers for more productive things rather then trying to make a joke of the word of God.


wow...Cowboy just judged me

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Sun 10/17/10 02:26 PM

but didn't god "create jesus" cause if you didn't believe jesus was your savior that you can't enter the kingdom of god? also through jesus he if you disobey god you can't enter the kingdom of god?jesus wasn't god? but wasn't he a aberration,spirit of god spiritually and through his preachings...seriously jesus was a manifestation or a set up by god...remember "follow me for i am the way"?god put jesus here...nevermind i guess i might have to whipout somemore verses


Jesus is the word of God in the flesh. The word always was and always is. The word has always been with God from the beginning. God is the alpha and omega, the beginning and the end.

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Sun 10/17/10 02:28 PM




Pull one piece of hair out of your head. This piece of hair and you are two different beings but yet you and that hair is one.


I just did...but amazingly my hair did not call out ..My Funches, My Funches,..why hath thou pull me out...I even placed an ultra sound sensitive microphone to that piece of hair and still didnt hear anything

perhaps hair weave does that .....unbeweavable


Lol, that's pretty good funches. You are a very witty man with a sort of dry sense of humour. Just wish you used your powers for more productive things rather then trying to make a joke of the word of God.


wow...Cowboy just judged me


No judgement. I did not say you were a heathen gonna burn in hell. Nor did i say you were an angelic man who has got to have a seat in heaven. All i did was clearly state my "opinion" on you and what i see. Judgements are conceived with evidence and factual objects. All i was stating is an opinion, which is derived from how something perceives something in their eyes.

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Sun 10/17/10 02:30 PM





Pull one piece of hair out of your head. This piece of hair and you are two different beings but yet you and that hair is one.


I just did...but amazingly my hair did not call out ..My Funches, My Funches,..why hath thou pull me out...I even placed an ultra sound sensitive microphone to that piece of hair and still didnt hear anything

perhaps hair weave does that .....unbeweavable


Lol, that's pretty good funches. You are a very witty man with a sort of dry sense of humour. Just wish you used your powers for more productive things rather then trying to make a joke of the word of God.


wow...Cowboy just judged me


No judgement. I did not say you were a heathen gonna burn in hell. Nor did i say you were an angelic man who has got to have a seat in heaven. All i did was clearly state my "opinion" on you and what i see. Judgements are conceived with evidence and factual objects. All i was stating is an opinion, which is derived from how something perceives something in their eyes.


We have no choice on our perception of things. Like I may perceive that a red rose is absolutely beautiful and you may not. A perception is opinionated and differs from people to people. And when you see someone or something you naturally see these perceptions, which is beyond your ability just happens naturally.

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Sun 10/17/10 02:32 PM


but didn't god "create jesus" cause if you didn't believe jesus was your savior that you can't enter the kingdom of god? also through jesus he if you disobey god you can't enter the kingdom of god?jesus wasn't god? but wasn't he a aberration,spirit of god spiritually and through his preachings...seriously jesus was a manifestation or a set up by god...remember "follow me for i am the way"?god put jesus here...nevermind i guess i might have to whipout somemore verses


Jesus is the word of God in the flesh. The word always was and always is. The word has always been with God from the beginning. God is the alpha and omega, the beginning and the end.


if "The Word" always was...it would be mention in Genesis...

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Sun 10/17/10 02:36 PM
Edited by RKISIT on Sun 10/17/10 02:40 PM



but didn't god "create jesus" cause if you didn't believe jesus was your savior that you can't enter the kingdom of god? also through jesus he if you disobey god you can't enter the kingdom of god?jesus wasn't god? but wasn't he a aberration,spirit of god spiritually and through his preachings...seriously jesus was a manifestation or a set up by god...remember "follow me for i am the way"?god put jesus here...nevermind i guess i might have to whipout somemore verses


Jesus is the word of God in the flesh. The word always was and always is. The word has always been with God from the beginning. God is the alpha and omega, the beginning and the end.


if "The Word" always was...it would be mention in Genesis...
rofl rofl funches this is the greatest statement ever and i agree,old testament mentions the word which equals jesusrofl rofl but yet the god almighty who is the only one with divinity can't even just flat out say 'jesus"

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Sun 10/17/10 02:38 PM



but didn't god "create jesus" cause if you didn't believe jesus was your savior that you can't enter the kingdom of god? also through jesus he if you disobey god you can't enter the kingdom of god?jesus wasn't god? but wasn't he a aberration,spirit of god spiritually and through his preachings...seriously jesus was a manifestation or a set up by god...remember "follow me for i am the way"?god put jesus here...nevermind i guess i might have to whipout somemore verses


Jesus is the word of God in the flesh. The word always was and always is. The word has always been with God from the beginning. God is the alpha and omega, the beginning and the end.


if "The Word" always was...it would be mention in Genesis...


The word Genesis means "a coming into being". And the word was always with our father and our father is the beginning and the end. So therefore the word was in the beginning.