So does America. I believe America is more responsible for recent issues.

They're more American than the teachings of your beloved govt.

No, whomever the president was at that time didn't get all puffed up and go to "military action" with countries not resposible for it.

So they weren't an idiot like Bush to earn our scorn

Because Clinton was too much of a coward.

agreed

but unfortunately with the recent problems as far as terrorism, it is hard to assume any more that the FBI is just doing too much J Edgar.... which is always what we used to assume during the civil rights era

ooo they look cute in those suits too

Let's get something straight - in response to the knee jerk "you did it first" response. I reserve the same level of Absolute contempt for the historic empire building, exploitations and just plain old rape and pillage committed by European powers in previous centuries as I reserve for some of the actions of the contemporary global superpower in the guise of the USA. It is indeed a source of eternal mortification for me that it was a combination of the British and Dutch who first introduced a form of free market laissez faire bull***t to our world in the guise of the Dutch and Brit East India company. It was indeed we who allowed the corporate interest to dictate Government policies and actions, who created and made vast profits from the 'golden triangle' of slavery and opium.

Over in the Middle East meanwhile, it was indeed the UK who divided up the ancient lands of Iraq and created Saudi and Kuwait: (because the corporate interest didn't wish to leave such a vast carbon reserve in the hands of one nation). It was largely down to the UK that Palestine is in such a mess too.

Yes indeed - the previous owners of the big global stick do indeed have a LOT to answer for.

The first attack (meanwhile) on the WTC was down to domestic 'terrorism' I think you'll find - and had FA to do with Iraq in any case. I think you'll also find that much of the Bin Laden family were actually in the USA at the time of the 2nd WTC attacks and despite a no fly policy - were indeed flown out of the USA within 24hrs: (Michael Moore, Chomsky, John Pilger - the sources of an alternative truth are out there if you look for them - and certainly help to counterbalance the nonsense spouted by FOX)

I really do feel for all those mainly kids and families of our armed forces we (the USA and UK) have put in the way of harm over in Afghanistan and Iraq. How many must die before we (as in the people of these lands) finally say ENOUGH OF THIS BS!!! How many innocents must be caught up in the firing line - shot, bombed by remote control (drones are indeed a growth area for big business) before someone in charge of all this is actually brought to account for what is really murder?

In a reprise of its notorious December 2004 delivery of $600,000 in cash and humanitarian aid to the 'other side' in the then al Qaeda controlled Iraqi city of Fallujah as American forces were fighting to liberate the city from the terrorists, the anti-American group Code Pink is again raising money to send to an al Qaeda stronghold in Iraq.

Several weeks ago, Code Pink announced that it was soliciting money to send to Nineveh province to aid "Iraqi orphans, widows and internally displaced people."

It just so happens that Nineveh province is where al Qaeda and Iraqi insurgents have recently regrouped after having been routed from Anbar province and Baghdad.

Code Pink says it will not name who they are dealing with in Iraq because "They work under the radar so we need to keep them anonymous..."

A message from Code Pink's contact in Iraq states, ""Our organization has succeeded in opening a new branch in the north in Nineveh Province. We now have five branches. We also have arranged a special medical clinic that provides free services for widows & orphans in Abu-Ghraib. We have enough funds to run this clinic for three months and hope to receive more financial assistance to keep it going. We are walking a long and difficult road in Iraq and try to focus on the good we can do for people here so we don't feel hopeless. Thank you to the women of CODEPINK for your continuous work to bring freedom and peace to my country."

Clinics that cater to widows and orphans are not normally operated 'under the radar', unless those operating them are using them for nefarious purposes.

Given that Code Pink rejects the legitimacy of the freely elected Iraqi government and has endorsed the terrorists trying to destroy that government, there can be little doubt that Code Pink is once again funneling aid to our terrorist enemies in Iraq so that they can continue to kill American soldiers and free Iraqis.

Code Pink's statement on its fundraiser: "When you donate to CODEPINK this week, half the proceeds will go toward assisting Iraqi women and children, and half will go toward funding our continuing actions on Capitol Hill. Your donation will work to end the occupation and help repair the awful damage this military misadventure has wrought."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1936324/posts

Code Pink leader Jodie Evans, in a blog posted from the World Tribunal on Iraq, today gave her open support to the terrorists in Iraq who are killing American soldiers and Iraqis

While some may wonder, "is this news?" it is, indeed. Code Pink has been very careful over the past three years to maintain a front of being a peace group. In fact, it's complete name is Code Pink Women for Peace. The veil slipped when co-leader Medea Benjamin shot her mouth off in Jordan last December when she proclaimed the group was giving $600,000 in cash and aid to the families of "the other side" in Fallujah.

Recently, Code Pink has been holding weekly Friday night vigils at the main gate to Walter Reed Army Medical Center to express their phony support for the men and women recuperating from their war wounds. I wonder how the soldiers and families at Walter Reed will take the news that the pink sign holding people have given their support to the terrorists in Iraq.

The D.C. Chapter will be sure to tell them at our next patriotic counter-demonstration there.

Here are Jodie Evans' remarks, preserved for posterity:

We must begin by really standing with the Iraqi people and their right to resist. I can remain myself against all forms of violence, and yet I cannot judge what someone has to do when pushed to the wall to protect all they love. What does the Iraqi resistance have to lose? They are fighting for their country, to protect their families and to preserve all they love. They are fighting for their lives, and we are fighting for lies. It is so amazingly obvious; we must get out of Iraq now. They will rebuild their country, it will take time, a long time, but they cannot start until we are gone.


Source link.

Code Pink now joins ANSWER as publicly endorsing the terrorists. This has been a sticking point between ANSWER on one side and Code Pink and United for Peace and Justice on the other. I expect them all to support the terrorists publicly by the time Sept. 24-26 rolls around in Washington, D.C.

The leftists are planning "non-violent direct action and civil disobedience" in D.C. on Monday Sept. 26. When they tried that two years ago, the D.C. police swiftly disrupted their plans by arresting leftist protesters demonstrating without a permit. Since then, successful lawsuits were filed against the D.C. police and the D.C. City Council passed a law severely restricting the cops' ability to preserve law and order in the city when protests get out of hand.

Code Pink will be there and I'm sure their terrorist allies will be cheering them on.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1431186/posts

Not even!

Ummmm, yes even.

There are no "innocent" civilians in those middle east countries.

There are innocent American hostiges.

OOOOPS .... Think I just stepped in some of what you've just posted dude - a big steaming pile of male bovine by-product.

There are innocent civilians in EVERY part of this world. Before you can properly persecute and devalue the lives of people - you must first of all 'dehumanize' them. So ordinary Iraqis become 'Rag Heads' (for example). The Nazis did something similar with the Jews and Russian prisoners of war - hence to many dealing with them - they became something less than 'human' - and therefor it was ok to treat them badly.

Middle easterners have been sub-human since day one.

Is peace a terrorist activity?

Even love doesnt come free............

There are always innocent bystanders in war that just want to live their lives and practice their religious beliefs. And the USA was built by those wishing to escape oppression, to allow a place where people would not be persecuted for their beliefs. Seems to me our ancestors the institutted the constitution would turn over in their graves at this moment in time. To allow people's homes to be invaded, all I can is they better find damaging evidence or they may end up with constitutional violations and a law suit against them. I am not in with the killing of a people.........and believe the governments on many sides propel the conflict.......I do remember in a political science class under the Bush administration we discussed what the possible outcomes of the future vote could possibly bring and who the candidates might be.......

I stated Hillary Clinton would run and my teacher stated no she already said she wouldnt run, and said really just wait and see.....of course he ate his words later LOL.....we predicted a transfer to the Democrats in the next election, but that they would not be able to just end the war without repercussions, how if they pulled the troops out without doing alot of negotiations to mend the waters and did not follow through to find the answers to the whole incident that this could go on well into the future..........

basically we can not leave without stabilizing the area because it would leave future reprisals.......now 911 being a CIA or FBI operative operation I do not believe that the US government found komakazi's willing to give their lives and those of US citizens on commercial airliners killing the people aboard running two planes into WTC one into the Pentagon, and one intended for the White House.........only people with significant religious beliefs with the intent to have a glorious afterlife by sacrifing themselves for their people......Its just to me to hold that the USA is responsible for the terrorist plot has as many if not more wholes to the theory for me to jump on board with it...........

depends on how many people you kill to get it..

I know the attitude but can't see it coming from a Christian.
[should know that all of that black book stuff and all the people, came from the middle east]

[its even beyond just atheism]