Topic: Manual on How to Molest Children Is Legal
Lpdon's photo
Mon 09/06/10 02:11 PM


Figure that, The Bible in the school is illegalshocked shocked shocked , but a manual on how to molest a child is notnoway noway noway noway noway ......We are in the Twillight Zone now!!! My Gosh!!!!


What school is this booklet being read in? The Bible is not illegal in schools. My child could take one every day and read it on her own time if she wanted. She could sit on school property, read it, memorize it and recite it every free minute she has.

Teachers are not allowed to read the Bible to our children in school. Thank goodness. And, I am sure they are not going to be allowed to read the child molestation book either. I'd also bet that if any child or teacher was found with a copy of it at school there would be an investigation. There would not be such an investigation if they were in possession of a Bible.



I realized that from the very beginning my friend! flowerforyou That's why i said they are problably saying it's not a crime to lure him out. Although that should have never posted that he may have created a crime though.

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Mon 09/06/10 02:28 PM



Figure that, The Bible in the school is illegalshocked shocked shocked , but a manual on how to molest a child is notnoway noway noway noway noway ......We are in the Twillight Zone now!!! My Gosh!!!!


What school is this booklet being read in? The Bible is not illegal in schools. My child could take one every day and read it on her own time if she wanted. She could sit on school property, read it, memorize it and recite it every free minute she has.

Teachers are not allowed to read the Bible to our children in school. Thank goodness. And, I am sure they are not going to be allowed to read the child molestation book either. I'd also bet that if any child or teacher was found with a copy of it at school there would be an investigation. There would not be such an investigation if they were in possession of a Bible.



I realized that from the very beginning my friend! flowerforyou That's why i said they are problably saying it's not a crime to lure him out. Although that should have never posted that he may have created a crime though.


actaully, that might be considered entrapment and would be thrown out a court of law....

Lpdon's photo
Mon 09/06/10 02:34 PM




Figure that, The Bible in the school is illegalshocked shocked shocked , but a manual on how to molest a child is notnoway noway noway noway noway ......We are in the Twillight Zone now!!! My Gosh!!!!


What school is this booklet being read in? The Bible is not illegal in schools. My child could take one every day and read it on her own time if she wanted. She could sit on school property, read it, memorize it and recite it every free minute she has.

Teachers are not allowed to read the Bible to our children in school. Thank goodness. And, I am sure they are not going to be allowed to read the child molestation book either. I'd also bet that if any child or teacher was found with a copy of it at school there would be an investigation. There would not be such an investigation if they were in possession of a Bible.



I realized that from the very beginning my friend! flowerforyou That's why i said they are problably saying it's not a crime to lure him out. Although that should have never posted that he may have created a crime though.


actaully, that might be considered entrapment and would be thrown out a court of law....


Ummm not that wouldn't be considered entrapment at all because the crimes already been committed, they are just trying to catch the criminal. Oh an by the way every law enforcement agency in the country set up stings where cops post as 12,13,14,15 year old girls and get the person to talk dirty then get them to show up for an alleged sex rondevous and then arrest the person on Felony Sex Offence charges. BTW, Not one of those cases have been thrown out.

You arn't an American and clearly don't understand American laws.

Lpdon's photo
Mon 09/06/10 02:37 PM








Figure that, The Bible in the school is illegalshocked shocked shocked , but a manual on how to molest a child is notnoway noway noway noway noway ......We are in the Twillight Zone now!!! My Gosh!!!!


its not the bible which is illegal really, its just using it on school premises during 'instructional' time is not permitted


printed work falls under freedom of speech , even when its topics which offend , kiddie porn is illegal (actual PICTURES of children or acts against children) but writing about it is not anymore illegal than writing a step by step manual on murder or bomb building,,,


Actually the The Anarchist Cookbook is illegal to posess here and in the UK and have been many arrests for posessing it. It was also forced out of print. Not to mention it is now finding it's way into Muslim Terrorists hands.

It is a book that contains instructions for the manufacture of explosives, rudimentary telecommunications phreaking devices, and other items and subjects including the taking of someone's life.

So yes it is illegal to write manuels how to molest children, kill people, make bombs, kill people.


aint your constitution grand??...those books may have been banned on moral high ground, and even censored by the previous administration but constitutionally it is not Ilegal to print or purchase such books...as distasteful as it may seem. Larry Flint proved the point years ago...freedom of speech is freedom of speech, not just the nice bits...


Yes it is illegal. You have First Ammedment rights until the violate the rights of another person, and this does violate the rights of another person or persons, children. To verify, I just called and asked my brother who is a Police Officer.



police officers are not law students, has he actually had OCCASION to arrest someone for owning a book?

so , all the insults and step by step instructions given in movies about certain destructive behavior is a violation of someones rights?

sorry, but this seems a double standard amongst the muslim haters

someone writing a book about a dastardly deed should be guilty of a violation but governments funding and supporting dastardly deeds should be free of the violations committed as a response

actions are illegal when they infringe upon a right, there are no rights infringed upon by reading or writing a book,,,,


It infringes on the rights of children. Oh wait let me guess you support the rights of child molesters. Figures.



no, I support freedom of speech,,, which is apparent by my tolerance of the hateful things suggested in these threads

if someone actually HARMS a child that is different, but writing about it is no less an infringement than unauthorized biographies are to the people they write about

we may not want to hear or read it but it takes away noones right to say it or write it.


You support the things people say on these forums? Then why are you one of the people who constantly report posts? whoa

Lpdon's photo
Mon 09/06/10 02:39 PM






Figure that, The Bible in the school is illegalshocked shocked shocked , but a manual on how to molest a child is notnoway noway noway noway noway ......We are in the Twillight Zone now!!! My Gosh!!!!


its not the bible which is illegal really, its just using it on school premises during 'instructional' time is not permitted


printed work falls under freedom of speech , even when its topics which offend , kiddie porn is illegal (actual PICTURES of children or acts against children) but writing about it is not anymore illegal than writing a step by step manual on murder or bomb building,,,


Actually the The Anarchist Cookbook is illegal to posess here and in the UK and have been many arrests for posessing it. It was also forced out of print. Not to mention it is now finding it's way into Muslim Terrorists hands.

It is a book that contains instructions for the manufacture of explosives, rudimentary telecommunications phreaking devices, and other items and subjects including the taking of someone's life.

So yes it is illegal to write manuels how to molest children, kill people, make bombs, kill people.


I cant find any law against owning ANY kind of book except child porn,,care to point me in the direction which you found such a law?


Go ahead and look up all the successful prosecutions for owning the book. Of course you can't find any law, theres thousands of laws to go through.


great, then can you point me to where someone was CONVICTED for OWNING this book?


Sure!

More recently, in 2010, a Neo-Nazi father (Ian Davison) and his son were imprisoned under anti-terrorism laws for the manufacturing of ricin, AND their possession of the Anarchist Cookbook.

Lpdon's photo
Mon 09/06/10 02:42 PM
Also In 2007, a seventeen year old British boy was arrested and faced charges under Terrorism Law in the UK for possession of this book, among other things.

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Mon 09/06/10 05:41 PM









Figure that, The Bible in the school is illegalshocked shocked shocked , but a manual on how to molest a child is notnoway noway noway noway noway ......We are in the Twillight Zone now!!! My Gosh!!!!


its not the bible which is illegal really, its just using it on school premises during 'instructional' time is not permitted


printed work falls under freedom of speech , even when its topics which offend , kiddie porn is illegal (actual PICTURES of children or acts against children) but writing about it is not anymore illegal than writing a step by step manual on murder or bomb building,,,


Actually the The Anarchist Cookbook is illegal to posess here and in the UK and have been many arrests for posessing it. It was also forced out of print. Not to mention it is now finding it's way into Muslim Terrorists hands.

It is a book that contains instructions for the manufacture of explosives, rudimentary telecommunications phreaking devices, and other items and subjects including the taking of someone's life.

So yes it is illegal to write manuels how to molest children, kill people, make bombs, kill people.


aint your constitution grand??...those books may have been banned on moral high ground, and even censored by the previous administration but constitutionally it is not Ilegal to print or purchase such books...as distasteful as it may seem. Larry Flint proved the point years ago...freedom of speech is freedom of speech, not just the nice bits...


Yes it is illegal. You have First Ammedment rights until the violate the rights of another person, and this does violate the rights of another person or persons, children. To verify, I just called and asked my brother who is a Police Officer.



police officers are not law students, has he actually had OCCASION to arrest someone for owning a book?

so , all the insults and step by step instructions given in movies about certain destructive behavior is a violation of someones rights?

sorry, but this seems a double standard amongst the muslim haters

someone writing a book about a dastardly deed should be guilty of a violation but governments funding and supporting dastardly deeds should be free of the violations committed as a response

actions are illegal when they infringe upon a right, there are no rights infringed upon by reading or writing a book,,,,


It infringes on the rights of children. Oh wait let me guess you support the rights of child molesters. Figures.



no, I support freedom of speech,,, which is apparent by my tolerance of the hateful things suggested in these threads

if someone actually HARMS a child that is different, but writing about it is no less an infringement than unauthorized biographies are to the people they write about

we may not want to hear or read it but it takes away noones right to say it or write it.


You support the things people say on these forums? Then why are you one of the people who constantly report posts? whoa



rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

talk about false information,,,,I have never taken things here that seriously, havent reported ONCE about anything ,,,but nice shot

msharmony's photo
Mon 09/06/10 05:42 PM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 09/06/10 05:49 PM







Figure that, The Bible in the school is illegalshocked shocked shocked , but a manual on how to molest a child is notnoway noway noway noway noway ......We are in the Twillight Zone now!!! My Gosh!!!!


its not the bible which is illegal really, its just using it on school premises during 'instructional' time is not permitted


printed work falls under freedom of speech , even when its topics which offend , kiddie porn is illegal (actual PICTURES of children or acts against children) but writing about it is not anymore illegal than writing a step by step manual on murder or bomb building,,,


Actually the The Anarchist Cookbook is illegal to posess here and in the UK and have been many arrests for posessing it. It was also forced out of print. Not to mention it is now finding it's way into Muslim Terrorists hands.

It is a book that contains instructions for the manufacture of explosives, rudimentary telecommunications phreaking devices, and other items and subjects including the taking of someone's life.

So yes it is illegal to write manuels how to molest children, kill people, make bombs, kill people.


I cant find any law against owning ANY kind of book except child porn,,care to point me in the direction which you found such a law?


Go ahead and look up all the successful prosecutions for owning the book. Of course you can't find any law, theres thousands of laws to go through.


great, then can you point me to where someone was CONVICTED for OWNING this book?


Sure!

More recently, in 2010, a Neo-Nazi father (Ian Davison) and his son were imprisoned under anti-terrorism laws for the manufacturing of ricin, AND their possession of the Anarchist Cookbook.



actually , thats in the UK. I was asking for examples in USA

UK also has hate speech laws, which america does not

so I can believe they would restrict books as well, but I dont know that america does for private citizens

I mean, if its legal to own a gun, Im sure it cant be argued that a book would be anymore dangerous

damnitscloudy's photo
Mon 09/06/10 05:46 PM
In Utah a man was charged with child porn for having a manga collection. In some books it showed a girl being attacked by tentacles and in others it shows a girl being naked. The man lost his entire collection.

Book banning is a sticky subject as you can see. People can interpret things differently.

msharmony's photo
Mon 09/06/10 05:53 PM

In Utah a man was charged with child porn for having a manga collection. In some books it showed a girl being attacked by tentacles and in others it shows a girl being naked. The man lost his entire collection.

Book banning is a sticky subject as you can see. People can interpret things differently.



I know that any pictures of children nude can be assumed as child porn,, best to stay completely clear of them

IndianWoman's photo
Mon 09/06/10 07:01 PM








Figure that, The Bible in the school is illegalshocked shocked shocked , but a manual on how to molest a child is notnoway noway noway noway noway ......We are in the Twillight Zone now!!! My Gosh!!!!


its not the bible which is illegal really, its just using it on school premises during 'instructional' time is not permitted


printed work falls under freedom of speech , even when its topics which offend , kiddie porn is illegal (actual PICTURES of children or acts against children) but writing about it is not anymore illegal than writing a step by step manual on murder or bomb building,,,


Actually the The Anarchist Cookbook is illegal to posess here and in the UK and have been many arrests for posessing it. It was also forced out of print. Not to mention it is now finding it's way into Muslim Terrorists hands.

It is a book that contains instructions for the manufacture of explosives, rudimentary telecommunications phreaking devices, and other items and subjects including the taking of someone's life.

So yes it is illegal to write manuels how to molest children, kill people, make bombs, kill people.


I cant find any law against owning ANY kind of book except child porn,,care to point me in the direction which you found such a law?


Go ahead and look up all the successful prosecutions for owning the book. Of course you can't find any law, theres thousands of laws to go through.


great, then can you point me to where someone was CONVICTED for OWNING this book?


Sure!

More recently, in 2010, a Neo-Nazi father (Ian Davison) and his son were imprisoned under anti-terrorism laws for the manufacturing of ricin, AND their possession of the Anarchist Cookbook.



actually , thats in the UK. I was asking for examples in USA

UK also has hate speech laws, which america does not

so I can believe they would restrict books as well, but I dont know that america does for private citizens

I mean, if its legal to own a gun, Im sure it cant be argued that a book would be anymore dangerous


Guns are not dangerous. They inert objects. They only become dangerous if a dangerous person is pointing it

Thomas3474's photo
Mon 09/06/10 07:11 PM
You may be have the freedom to print these books and the people may have the freedom to buy them but you are just asking yourself to get arrested and thrown in jail.Many times when people are arrested on suspicion of terrorism the books,videos,and websites visited on their computer seals the case for probable cause and they are found guilty.

Likewise if a family was arrested for child abuse and this book was found in their house.The book when likely be used as evidence in court and the family found guilty.

You have to assume someone is always watching what you are buying.Red flags go up all over the place when someone buys The anarchist cookbook or other related books.

Lpdon's photo
Mon 09/06/10 07:15 PM








Figure that, The Bible in the school is illegalshocked shocked shocked , but a manual on how to molest a child is notnoway noway noway noway noway ......We are in the Twillight Zone now!!! My Gosh!!!!


its not the bible which is illegal really, its just using it on school premises during 'instructional' time is not permitted


printed work falls under freedom of speech , even when its topics which offend , kiddie porn is illegal (actual PICTURES of children or acts against children) but writing about it is not anymore illegal than writing a step by step manual on murder or bomb building,,,


Actually the The Anarchist Cookbook is illegal to posess here and in the UK and have been many arrests for posessing it. It was also forced out of print. Not to mention it is now finding it's way into Muslim Terrorists hands.

It is a book that contains instructions for the manufacture of explosives, rudimentary telecommunications phreaking devices, and other items and subjects including the taking of someone's life.

So yes it is illegal to write manuels how to molest children, kill people, make bombs, kill people.


I cant find any law against owning ANY kind of book except child porn,,care to point me in the direction which you found such a law?


Go ahead and look up all the successful prosecutions for owning the book. Of course you can't find any law, theres thousands of laws to go through.


great, then can you point me to where someone was CONVICTED for OWNING this book?


Sure!

More recently, in 2010, a Neo-Nazi father (Ian Davison) and his son were imprisoned under anti-terrorism laws for the manufacturing of ricin, AND their possession of the Anarchist Cookbook.



actually , thats in the UK. I was asking for examples in USA

UK also has hate speech laws, which america does not

so I can believe they would restrict books as well, but I dont know that america does for private citizens

I mean, if its legal to own a gun, Im sure it cant be argued that a book would be anymore dangerous


No the one in the UK was a kid.

Lpdon's photo
Mon 09/06/10 07:16 PM

You may be have the freedom to print these books and the people may have the freedom to buy them but you are just asking yourself to get arrested and thrown in jail.Many times when people are arrested on suspicion of terrorism the books,videos,and websites visited on their computer seals the case for probable cause and they are found guilty.

Likewise if a family was arrested for child abuse and this book was found in their house.The book when likely be used as evidence in court and the family found guilty.

You have to assume someone is always watching what you are buying.Red flags go up all over the place when someone buys The anarchist cookbook or other related books.



:thumbsup:

msharmony's photo
Tue 09/07/10 01:11 AM









Figure that, The Bible in the school is illegalshocked shocked shocked , but a manual on how to molest a child is notnoway noway noway noway noway ......We are in the Twillight Zone now!!! My Gosh!!!!


its not the bible which is illegal really, its just using it on school premises during 'instructional' time is not permitted


printed work falls under freedom of speech , even when its topics which offend , kiddie porn is illegal (actual PICTURES of children or acts against children) but writing about it is not anymore illegal than writing a step by step manual on murder or bomb building,,,


Actually the The Anarchist Cookbook is illegal to posess here and in the UK and have been many arrests for posessing it. It was also forced out of print. Not to mention it is now finding it's way into Muslim Terrorists hands.

It is a book that contains instructions for the manufacture of explosives, rudimentary telecommunications phreaking devices, and other items and subjects including the taking of someone's life.

So yes it is illegal to write manuels how to molest children, kill people, make bombs, kill people.


I cant find any law against owning ANY kind of book except child porn,,care to point me in the direction which you found such a law?


Go ahead and look up all the successful prosecutions for owning the book. Of course you can't find any law, theres thousands of laws to go through.


great, then can you point me to where someone was CONVICTED for OWNING this book?


Sure!

More recently, in 2010, a Neo-Nazi father (Ian Davison) and his son were imprisoned under anti-terrorism laws for the manufacturing of ricin, AND their possession of the Anarchist Cookbook.



actually , thats in the UK. I was asking for examples in USA

UK also has hate speech laws, which america does not

so I can believe they would restrict books as well, but I dont know that america does for private citizens

I mean, if its legal to own a gun, Im sure it cant be argued that a book would be anymore dangerous


Guns are not dangerous. They inert objects. They only become dangerous if a dangerous person is pointing it




same as a book, its only dangerous or USEFUL if the information is USED ,,,

msharmony's photo
Tue 09/07/10 01:12 AM

You may be have the freedom to print these books and the people may have the freedom to buy them but you are just asking yourself to get arrested and thrown in jail.Many times when people are arrested on suspicion of terrorism the books,videos,and websites visited on their computer seals the case for probable cause and they are found guilty.

Likewise if a family was arrested for child abuse and this book was found in their house.The book when likely be used as evidence in court and the family found guilty.

You have to assume someone is always watching what you are buying.Red flags go up all over the place when someone buys The anarchist cookbook or other related books.



and it should be used as evidence towards certain interests when a CRIME Has been commited, but owning or printing the book should not be a crime(not if we are to consistently apply the freedom of speech which allows hateful and threatening words to be thrown about freely by private citizens)

msharmony's photo
Tue 09/07/10 01:15 AM









Figure that, The Bible in the school is illegalshocked shocked shocked , but a manual on how to molest a child is notnoway noway noway noway noway ......We are in the Twillight Zone now!!! My Gosh!!!!


its not the bible which is illegal really, its just using it on school premises during 'instructional' time is not permitted


printed work falls under freedom of speech , even when its topics which offend , kiddie porn is illegal (actual PICTURES of children or acts against children) but writing about it is not anymore illegal than writing a step by step manual on murder or bomb building,,,


Actually the The Anarchist Cookbook is illegal to posess here and in the UK and have been many arrests for posessing it. It was also forced out of print. Not to mention it is now finding it's way into Muslim Terrorists hands.

It is a book that contains instructions for the manufacture of explosives, rudimentary telecommunications phreaking devices, and other items and subjects including the taking of someone's life.

So yes it is illegal to write manuels how to molest children, kill people, make bombs, kill people.


I cant find any law against owning ANY kind of book except child porn,,care to point me in the direction which you found such a law?


Go ahead and look up all the successful prosecutions for owning the book. Of course you can't find any law, theres thousands of laws to go through.


great, then can you point me to where someone was CONVICTED for OWNING this book?


Sure!

More recently, in 2010, a Neo-Nazi father (Ian Davison) and his son were imprisoned under anti-terrorism laws for the manufacturing of ricin, AND their possession of the Anarchist Cookbook.



actually , thats in the UK. I was asking for examples in USA

UK also has hate speech laws, which america does not

so I can believe they would restrict books as well, but I dont know that america does for private citizens

I mean, if its legal to own a gun, Im sure it cant be argued that a book would be anymore dangerous


No the one in the UK was a kid.


article on 41 year old ian davidson

http://www.journallive.co.uk/north-east-news/todays-news/2010/03/09/burnopfield-white-supremacist-ian-davison-admits-ricin-charges-61634-25990373/

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Tue 09/07/10 01:46 AM
At least this is bring up some awareness about child molestation.. and if we have any insight on how to stop it, then let it be studied by all parents. They need to know that they children can be victims too and to look for the warning signs.

Did you know there are forums.. like this one here.. for child molesters.
you can look it up and go and read for yourself.. I hope you have a strong stomach and a sound mind.

Rainangel0218's photo
Tue 09/07/10 01:51 AM

Figure that, The Bible in the school is illegalshocked shocked shocked , but a manual on how to molest a child is notnoway noway noway noway noway ......We are in the Twillight Zone now!!! My Gosh!!!!


This bible should still be illegal in public schools. Now.. if you choose to go to a Christian school then teach away, but for someone how is not Christian they should not be forced to abide by laws that are taken on by choice and faith. However, in a literary context.. teach away. The molester book.. if used in the context to prevent such evil.. then teach away. However when attained and used in the hands of someone who will harm my children.. That is something I will not stand for.

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Tue 09/07/10 05:03 AM



Figure that, The Bible in the school is illegalshocked shocked shocked , but a manual on how to molest a child is notnoway noway noway noway noway ......We are in the Twillight Zone now!!! My Gosh!!!!


its not the bible which is illegal really, its just using it on school premises during 'instructional' time is not permitted


printed work falls under freedom of speech , even when its topics which offend , kiddie porn is illegal (actual PICTURES of children or acts against children) but writing about it is not anymore illegal than writing a step by step manual on murder or bomb building,,,

Freedom of speech is selectively applied.



If it's offensive to a few "special folks", the book can be banned.

Censorship is rampant.

I want my, Tom Sawyer and the Adventures of Huckleberry Finn back in the school Libraries. Quit censoring and catering to the "special" people.

Yes....Huckleberry Finn is on the list of banned books.
http://www.banned-books.com/bblista-i.html