Topic: Manual on How to Molest Children Is Legal
willing2's photo
Mon 09/06/10 10:07 AM


Figure that, The Bible in the school is illegalshocked shocked shocked , but a manual on how to molest a child is notnoway noway noway noway noway ......We are in the Twillight Zone now!!! My Gosh!!!!


its not the bible which is illegal really, its just using it on school premises during 'instructional' time is not permitted


printed work falls under freedom of speech , even when its topics which offend , kiddie porn is illegal (actual PICTURES of children or acts against children) but writing about it is not anymore illegal than writing a step by step manual on murder or bomb building,,,

Freedom of speech is selectively applied.

If it's offensive to a few "special folks", the book can be banned.

Censorship is rampant.

I want my, Tom Sawyer and the Adventures of Huckleberry Finn back in the school Libraries. Quit censoring and catering to the "special" people.


metalwing's photo
Mon 09/06/10 10:30 AM


Figure that, The Bible in the school is illegalshocked shocked shocked , but a manual on how to molest a child is notnoway noway noway noway noway ......We are in the Twillight Zone now!!! My Gosh!!!!


What school is this booklet being read in? The Bible is not illegal in schools. My child could take one every day and read it on her own time if she wanted. She could sit on school property, read it, memorize it and recite it every free minute she has.

Teachers are not allowed to read the Bible to our children in school. Thank goodness. And, I am sure they are not going to be allowed to read the child molestation book either. I'd also bet that if any child or teacher was found with a copy of it at school there would be an investigation. There would not be such an investigation if they were in possession of a Bible.



Actually, maybe it would be a good idea for teachers to read parts of the book to children to teach them exactly what to look for, what to do, and how to recognize a pervert.

Knowledge is power.

MiddleEarthling's photo
Mon 09/06/10 10:31 AM



Figure that, The Bible in the school is illegalshocked shocked shocked , but a manual on how to molest a child is notnoway noway noway noway noway ......We are in the Twillight Zone now!!! My Gosh!!!!


Where does it say that the manual was being used in schools? And who said a bible is not allowed in school? It is, it's just not taught.

Please advise...

But this story is sad...not sure why anyone would spin it onto anyone for any reason tho~

On one hand, Libs believe it's ok for one group to worship it and bad for another to practice it.
Hypocritical, maybe?


Perhaps if that made any sense..♠

Lpdon's photo
Mon 09/06/10 11:00 AM

Manual on How to Molest Children Is Legal, Cops Say
Florida Police Still Want to Know Who Is Responsible for 170-page Book


A 170-page manual explaining step by step how to molest children which police in Orange County, Fla., believe has been circulating there for months, is not illegal. Investigators have stated that they still want to know where it came from.

"I've never seen anything like it. It was pretty amazing when I first saw it just because how detailed it was," Orange County Sheriff's Office Det. Philip Graves told ABC News Orlando, Fla., affiliate WFTV.

The manual, which was apparently written by someone who calls himself "the mule," is a how-to of child molestation, even explaining where and how to find potential victims, the station reported.

"I was more amazed that someone would be as bold as to create an actual 170-page document that would detail how to do it," he said.
Among the many disturbing topics covered in the book is how to convince a victimized child not to tell his or her parents.

"People who are engaged in the exploitation of children are talking about these things, and how to avoid law enforcement," Seminole County Sheriff's Office Sgt. Dan Purcell told TV station WESH-TV in Orlando.

Deputies with the sheriff's sexual offender surveillance squad have been aware of the manual for the past six months, Graves told WFTV.

The sheriff's office received it through an e-mail listserve, he said.

"We personally haven't worked a case on it, but it has been located within our region," Graves said.

Graves told WFTV that it is not a crime in Orange County to send the manual by e-mail or to possess it, but local and federal investigators are trying to track down where the manual initially came from.

Deputies believe whoever is responsible may have committed crimes against children.[size]

abcnews.go.com/US/manual-molest-children-legal-cops/.


The book is illegal. I don't care about freedom of speech defenders on this issue, this infrindges on the rights of others, defenceless children. I guarantee the police are saying it's not illegal to bring this guy out into the open and catch his a$$.

msharmony's photo
Mon 09/06/10 11:04 AM


Manual on How to Molest Children Is Legal, Cops Say
Florida Police Still Want to Know Who Is Responsible for 170-page Book


A 170-page manual explaining step by step how to molest children which police in Orange County, Fla., believe has been circulating there for months, is not illegal. Investigators have stated that they still want to know where it came from.

"I've never seen anything like it. It was pretty amazing when I first saw it just because how detailed it was," Orange County Sheriff's Office Det. Philip Graves told ABC News Orlando, Fla., affiliate WFTV.

The manual, which was apparently written by someone who calls himself "the mule," is a how-to of child molestation, even explaining where and how to find potential victims, the station reported.

"I was more amazed that someone would be as bold as to create an actual 170-page document that would detail how to do it," he said.
Among the many disturbing topics covered in the book is how to convince a victimized child not to tell his or her parents.

"People who are engaged in the exploitation of children are talking about these things, and how to avoid law enforcement," Seminole County Sheriff's Office Sgt. Dan Purcell told TV station WESH-TV in Orlando.

Deputies with the sheriff's sexual offender surveillance squad have been aware of the manual for the past six months, Graves told WFTV.

The sheriff's office received it through an e-mail listserve, he said.

"We personally haven't worked a case on it, but it has been located within our region," Graves said.

Graves told WFTV that it is not a crime in Orange County to send the manual by e-mail or to possess it, but local and federal investigators are trying to track down where the manual initially came from.

Deputies believe whoever is responsible may have committed crimes against children.[size]

abcnews.go.com/US/manual-molest-children-legal-cops/.


The book is illegal. I don't care about freedom of speech defenders on this issue, this infrindges on the rights of others, defenceless children. I guarantee the police are saying it's not illegal to bring this guy out into the open and catch his a$$.


asI said, if a book on how to build bombs is not illegal, this book is not illegal either


Lpdon's photo
Mon 09/06/10 11:20 AM


Figure that, The Bible in the school is illegalshocked shocked shocked , but a manual on how to molest a child is notnoway noway noway noway noway ......We are in the Twillight Zone now!!! My Gosh!!!!


its not the bible which is illegal really, its just using it on school premises during 'instructional' time is not permitted


printed work falls under freedom of speech , even when its topics which offend , kiddie porn is illegal (actual PICTURES of children or acts against children) but writing about it is not anymore illegal than writing a step by step manual on murder or bomb building,,,


Actually the The Anarchist Cookbook is illegal to posess here and in the UK and have been many arrests for posessing it. It was also forced out of print. Not to mention it is now finding it's way into Muslim Terrorists hands.

It is a book that contains instructions for the manufacture of explosives, rudimentary telecommunications phreaking devices, and other items and subjects including the taking of someone's life.

So yes it is illegal to write manuels how to molest children, kill people, make bombs, kill people.

Lpdon's photo
Mon 09/06/10 11:24 AM
Edited by Lpdon on Mon 09/06/10 11:25 AM
Not to mention I am going to find a couple articles on this situation on the internet here and print them out and personally takt them to Congressman Deal Heller's (R-NV) house, since he is my neighbor and give it to him personally and ask him to look into it.

Maybe he can author a bill to make something like this illegal, as a federal crime!

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Mon 09/06/10 11:26 AM
Edited by pmarco41 on Mon 09/06/10 11:28 AM



Figure that, The Bible in the school is illegalshocked shocked shocked , but a manual on how to molest a child is notnoway noway noway noway noway ......We are in the Twillight Zone now!!! My Gosh!!!!


its not the bible which is illegal really, its just using it on school premises during 'instructional' time is not permitted


printed work falls under freedom of speech , even when its topics which offend , kiddie porn is illegal (actual PICTURES of children or acts against children) but writing about it is not anymore illegal than writing a step by step manual on murder or bomb building,,,


Actually the The Anarchist Cookbook is illegal to posess here and in the UK and have been many arrests for posessing it. It was also forced out of print. Not to mention it is now finding it's way into Muslim Terrorists hands.

It is a book that contains instructions for the manufacture of explosives, rudimentary telecommunications phreaking devices, and other items and subjects including the taking of someone's life.

So yes it is illegal to write manuels how to molest children, kill people, make bombs, kill people.


aint your constitution grand??...those books may have been banned on moral high ground, and even censored by the previous administration but constitutionally it is not ilegal to print or purchase such books...as distasteful as it may seem. Larry Flint proved the point years ago...freedom of speech is freedom of speech, not just the nice bits...

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Mon 09/06/10 11:27 AM

Not to mention I am going to find a couple articles on this situation on the internet here and print them out and personally takt them to Congressman Deal Heller's (R-NV) house, since he is my neighbor and give it to him personally and ask him to look into it.

Maybe he can author a bill to make something like this illegal, as a federal crime!



lol..not unless you amend the constitution....it may be illegal to put into practice what the books say..but its not illegal in your country to write, print and purchase such books....

cant have it both ways....

Lpdon's photo
Mon 09/06/10 11:28 AM




Figure that, The Bible in the school is illegalshocked shocked shocked , but a manual on how to molest a child is notnoway noway noway noway noway ......We are in the Twillight Zone now!!! My Gosh!!!!


its not the bible which is illegal really, its just using it on school premises during 'instructional' time is not permitted


printed work falls under freedom of speech , even when its topics which offend , kiddie porn is illegal (actual PICTURES of children or acts against children) but writing about it is not anymore illegal than writing a step by step manual on murder or bomb building,,,


Actually the The Anarchist Cookbook is illegal to posess here and in the UK and have been many arrests for posessing it. It was also forced out of print. Not to mention it is now finding it's way into Muslim Terrorists hands.

It is a book that contains instructions for the manufacture of explosives, rudimentary telecommunications phreaking devices, and other items and subjects including the taking of someone's life.

So yes it is illegal to write manuels how to molest children, kill people, make bombs, kill people.


aint your constitution grand??...those books may have been banned on moral high ground, and even censored by the previous administration but constitutionally it is not Ilegal to print or purchase such books...as distasteful as it may seem. Larry Flint proved the point years ago...freedom of speech is freedom of speech, not just the nice bits...


Yes it is illegal. You have First Ammedment rights until the violate the rights of another person, and this does violate the rights of another person or persons, children. To verify, I just called and asked my brother who is a Police Officer.

Lpdon's photo
Mon 09/06/10 11:29 AM


Not to mention I am going to find a couple articles on this situation on the internet here and print them out and personally takt them to Congressman Deal Heller's (R-NV) house, since he is my neighbor and give it to him personally and ask him to look into it.

Maybe he can author a bill to make something like this illegal, as a federal crime!



lol..not unless you amend the constitution....it may be illegal to put into practice what the books say..but its not illegal in your country to write, print and purchase such books....

cant have it both ways....


To teach someone how to molest children is iiegal. Sorry, hate to inform you.

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Mon 09/06/10 11:31 AM





Figure that, The Bible in the school is illegalshocked shocked shocked , but a manual on how to molest a child is notnoway noway noway noway noway ......We are in the Twillight Zone now!!! My Gosh!!!!


its not the bible which is illegal really, its just using it on school premises during 'instructional' time is not permitted


printed work falls under freedom of speech , even when its topics which offend , kiddie porn is illegal (actual PICTURES of children or acts against children) but writing about it is not anymore illegal than writing a step by step manual on murder or bomb building,,,


Actually the The Anarchist Cookbook is illegal to posess here and in the UK and have been many arrests for posessing it. It was also forced out of print. Not to mention it is now finding it's way into Muslim Terrorists hands.

It is a book that contains instructions for the manufacture of explosives, rudimentary telecommunications phreaking devices, and other items and subjects including the taking of someone's life.

So yes it is illegal to write manuels how to molest children, kill people, make bombs, kill people.


aint your constitution grand??...those books may have been banned on moral high ground, and even censored by the previous administration but constitutionally it is not Ilegal to print or purchase such books...as distasteful as it may seem. Larry Flint proved the point years ago...freedom of speech is freedom of speech, not just the nice bits...


Yes it is illegal. You have First Ammedment rights until the violate the rights of another person, and this does violate the rights of another person or persons, children. To verify, I just called and asked my brother who is a Police Officer.


Im sure your brother is a good cop, but hes not a judge...the books constitute freedom of expression...go to any underground book store and youll find tons of so called "illegal" books ..nobody can shut them down and you cant be arrested for buying them...

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Mon 09/06/10 11:38 AM
a couple of sites that explains and helps clarify about book banning in the United States...

http://georgesuttle.com/censorship/censors-all.shtml

http://writers.net/resources/resources_banned.php

"Fear of serious injury alone cannot justify oppression of free speech and assembly. Men feared witches and burnt women. It is the function of speech to free men from the bondage of irrational fears."
—U.S. Supreme Court Justice Louis D. Brandeis (1856-1941)

msharmony's photo
Mon 09/06/10 11:56 AM



Figure that, The Bible in the school is illegalshocked shocked shocked , but a manual on how to molest a child is notnoway noway noway noway noway ......We are in the Twillight Zone now!!! My Gosh!!!!


its not the bible which is illegal really, its just using it on school premises during 'instructional' time is not permitted


printed work falls under freedom of speech , even when its topics which offend , kiddie porn is illegal (actual PICTURES of children or acts against children) but writing about it is not anymore illegal than writing a step by step manual on murder or bomb building,,,


Actually the The Anarchist Cookbook is illegal to posess here and in the UK and have been many arrests for posessing it. It was also forced out of print. Not to mention it is now finding it's way into Muslim Terrorists hands.

It is a book that contains instructions for the manufacture of explosives, rudimentary telecommunications phreaking devices, and other items and subjects including the taking of someone's life.

So yes it is illegal to write manuels how to molest children, kill people, make bombs, kill people.


I cant find any law against owning ANY kind of book except child porn,,care to point me in the direction which you found such a law?

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Mon 09/06/10 11:56 AM
Anybody ever read 'Fahrenheit 451' ... ?

msharmony's photo
Mon 09/06/10 12:04 PM





Figure that, The Bible in the school is illegalshocked shocked shocked , but a manual on how to molest a child is notnoway noway noway noway noway ......We are in the Twillight Zone now!!! My Gosh!!!!


its not the bible which is illegal really, its just using it on school premises during 'instructional' time is not permitted


printed work falls under freedom of speech , even when its topics which offend , kiddie porn is illegal (actual PICTURES of children or acts against children) but writing about it is not anymore illegal than writing a step by step manual on murder or bomb building,,,


Actually the The Anarchist Cookbook is illegal to posess here and in the UK and have been many arrests for posessing it. It was also forced out of print. Not to mention it is now finding it's way into Muslim Terrorists hands.

It is a book that contains instructions for the manufacture of explosives, rudimentary telecommunications phreaking devices, and other items and subjects including the taking of someone's life.

So yes it is illegal to write manuels how to molest children, kill people, make bombs, kill people.


aint your constitution grand??...those books may have been banned on moral high ground, and even censored by the previous administration but constitutionally it is not Ilegal to print or purchase such books...as distasteful as it may seem. Larry Flint proved the point years ago...freedom of speech is freedom of speech, not just the nice bits...


Yes it is illegal. You have First Ammedment rights until the violate the rights of another person, and this does violate the rights of another person or persons, children. To verify, I just called and asked my brother who is a Police Officer.



police officers are not law students, has he actually had OCCASION to arrest someone for owning a book?

so , all the insults and step by step instructions given in movies about certain destructive behavior is a violation of someones rights?

sorry, but this seems a double standard amongst the muslim haters

someone writing a book about a dastardly deed should be guilty of a violation but governments funding and supporting dastardly deeds should be free of the violations committed as a response

actions are illegal when they infringe upon a right, there are no rights infringed upon by reading or writing a book,,,,

Lpdon's photo
Mon 09/06/10 12:05 PM




Figure that, The Bible in the school is illegalshocked shocked shocked , but a manual on how to molest a child is notnoway noway noway noway noway ......We are in the Twillight Zone now!!! My Gosh!!!!


its not the bible which is illegal really, its just using it on school premises during 'instructional' time is not permitted


printed work falls under freedom of speech , even when its topics which offend , kiddie porn is illegal (actual PICTURES of children or acts against children) but writing about it is not anymore illegal than writing a step by step manual on murder or bomb building,,,


Actually the The Anarchist Cookbook is illegal to posess here and in the UK and have been many arrests for posessing it. It was also forced out of print. Not to mention it is now finding it's way into Muslim Terrorists hands.

It is a book that contains instructions for the manufacture of explosives, rudimentary telecommunications phreaking devices, and other items and subjects including the taking of someone's life.

So yes it is illegal to write manuels how to molest children, kill people, make bombs, kill people.


I cant find any law against owning ANY kind of book except child porn,,care to point me in the direction which you found such a law?


Go ahead and look up all the successful prosecutions for owning the book. Of course you can't find any law, theres thousands of laws to go through.

Lpdon's photo
Mon 09/06/10 12:07 PM






Figure that, The Bible in the school is illegalshocked shocked shocked , but a manual on how to molest a child is notnoway noway noway noway noway ......We are in the Twillight Zone now!!! My Gosh!!!!


its not the bible which is illegal really, its just using it on school premises during 'instructional' time is not permitted


printed work falls under freedom of speech , even when its topics which offend , kiddie porn is illegal (actual PICTURES of children or acts against children) but writing about it is not anymore illegal than writing a step by step manual on murder or bomb building,,,


Actually the The Anarchist Cookbook is illegal to posess here and in the UK and have been many arrests for posessing it. It was also forced out of print. Not to mention it is now finding it's way into Muslim Terrorists hands.

It is a book that contains instructions for the manufacture of explosives, rudimentary telecommunications phreaking devices, and other items and subjects including the taking of someone's life.

So yes it is illegal to write manuels how to molest children, kill people, make bombs, kill people.


aint your constitution grand??...those books may have been banned on moral high ground, and even censored by the previous administration but constitutionally it is not Ilegal to print or purchase such books...as distasteful as it may seem. Larry Flint proved the point years ago...freedom of speech is freedom of speech, not just the nice bits...


Yes it is illegal. You have First Ammedment rights until the violate the rights of another person, and this does violate the rights of another person or persons, children. To verify, I just called and asked my brother who is a Police Officer.



police officers are not law students, has he actually had OCCASION to arrest someone for owning a book?

so , all the insults and step by step instructions given in movies about certain destructive behavior is a violation of someones rights?

sorry, but this seems a double standard amongst the muslim haters

someone writing a book about a dastardly deed should be guilty of a violation but governments funding and supporting dastardly deeds should be free of the violations committed as a response

actions are illegal when they infringe upon a right, there are no rights infringed upon by reading or writing a book,,,,


It infringes on the rights of children. Oh wait let me guess you support the rights of child molesters. Figures.

msharmony's photo
Mon 09/06/10 12:19 PM







Figure that, The Bible in the school is illegalshocked shocked shocked , but a manual on how to molest a child is notnoway noway noway noway noway ......We are in the Twillight Zone now!!! My Gosh!!!!


its not the bible which is illegal really, its just using it on school premises during 'instructional' time is not permitted


printed work falls under freedom of speech , even when its topics which offend , kiddie porn is illegal (actual PICTURES of children or acts against children) but writing about it is not anymore illegal than writing a step by step manual on murder or bomb building,,,


Actually the The Anarchist Cookbook is illegal to posess here and in the UK and have been many arrests for posessing it. It was also forced out of print. Not to mention it is now finding it's way into Muslim Terrorists hands.

It is a book that contains instructions for the manufacture of explosives, rudimentary telecommunications phreaking devices, and other items and subjects including the taking of someone's life.

So yes it is illegal to write manuels how to molest children, kill people, make bombs, kill people.


aint your constitution grand??...those books may have been banned on moral high ground, and even censored by the previous administration but constitutionally it is not Ilegal to print or purchase such books...as distasteful as it may seem. Larry Flint proved the point years ago...freedom of speech is freedom of speech, not just the nice bits...


Yes it is illegal. You have First Ammedment rights until the violate the rights of another person, and this does violate the rights of another person or persons, children. To verify, I just called and asked my brother who is a Police Officer.



police officers are not law students, has he actually had OCCASION to arrest someone for owning a book?

so , all the insults and step by step instructions given in movies about certain destructive behavior is a violation of someones rights?

sorry, but this seems a double standard amongst the muslim haters

someone writing a book about a dastardly deed should be guilty of a violation but governments funding and supporting dastardly deeds should be free of the violations committed as a response

actions are illegal when they infringe upon a right, there are no rights infringed upon by reading or writing a book,,,,


It infringes on the rights of children. Oh wait let me guess you support the rights of child molesters. Figures.



no, I support freedom of speech,,, which is apparent by my tolerance of the hateful things suggested in these threads

if someone actually HARMS a child that is different, but writing about it is no less an infringement than unauthorized biographies are to the people they write about

we may not want to hear or read it but it takes away noones right to say it or write it.

msharmony's photo
Mon 09/06/10 12:43 PM





Figure that, The Bible in the school is illegalshocked shocked shocked , but a manual on how to molest a child is notnoway noway noway noway noway ......We are in the Twillight Zone now!!! My Gosh!!!!


its not the bible which is illegal really, its just using it on school premises during 'instructional' time is not permitted


printed work falls under freedom of speech , even when its topics which offend , kiddie porn is illegal (actual PICTURES of children or acts against children) but writing about it is not anymore illegal than writing a step by step manual on murder or bomb building,,,


Actually the The Anarchist Cookbook is illegal to posess here and in the UK and have been many arrests for posessing it. It was also forced out of print. Not to mention it is now finding it's way into Muslim Terrorists hands.

It is a book that contains instructions for the manufacture of explosives, rudimentary telecommunications phreaking devices, and other items and subjects including the taking of someone's life.

So yes it is illegal to write manuels how to molest children, kill people, make bombs, kill people.


I cant find any law against owning ANY kind of book except child porn,,care to point me in the direction which you found such a law?


Go ahead and look up all the successful prosecutions for owning the book. Of course you can't find any law, theres thousands of laws to go through.


great, then can you point me to where someone was CONVICTED for OWNING this book?