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laden with hyperlinks for individuals to point to citation sources, I am going to interject on the "Mosque Debate" here going on personal opinion only. I think the whole idea is misconstrued. People debate that they have a right to construct this ... it's in our own constitution. I have no problem with them constructing one. My problem is where they want to put it. It's out of respect to those lives that were taken on 9/11. To me it's like putting an atomic research facility in Hiroshima or Nagasaki. It's a slap in the face, to those involved and to our country. There are those that will say, "It's wrong not to let them do it." And to those people I say, "How is it right?" Better yet don't explain it to me, grow a pair and explain it to a family who lost someone in the twin towers on that day. Hey is it fair? Who cares? Life isn't nice or fair, but I say maybe the idea will pass, but I doubt some of the American people will let it get much further. is it considerate to say to muslim families who lost loved ones that they dont count as much? because muslim extremists caused deaths of thousands a couple blocks away, they shouldnt be able to practice their religion there or remember in their way? nuclear weapons were responsible for nagasaki, muslims werent responsible for 9/11 , muslim extremists were. do we know that nagasaki wouldnt have been bombed without the technology to do so,,,yes do we know 9/11 would not have happened were there not muslims,, no 9/11 was in response to political wrongs, but we werent go into that, we will just make all the responsibility one sided and push the muslims ability to reach out in the community aside I guess christian americans should be the only ones who matter enough to pursue building up the area, muslim americans are second class because of what extremists did and they should gladly RESPECT that sentiment,,, I agree. But when people speak of RESPECTING people it seems in this debate they often leave out respect for muslims who also lost their family members. Sadly, tolerance, religious and otherwise, an idea this country was built on, seems to be something few people practice these days. |
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Thinking about it, this debate really makes no sense. In all likelihood if it is approved.....well accidents happen. The one thing that comes to mind for me is, if it is built there I think it will incite violence and something bad will happen there. Obama said we need to show tollerance. Where is the tollerance and understanding for those who lost loved ones 9-11-01? If something bad does happen then who would be to blame? Those who supported it being built there or the radicals who commit the act? dont you know BOTH will be blamed by each other, thats how this nonsense continues to grow Osama defended 9/11 as retaliation against terrorist support from American government of people who attacked his people than we defended going after Iraq as retaliation against terrorist support of the organization that committed 9/11 and it goes on and on, each time , with everyone feeling justified in their feelings and their actions... being well versed on the atrocities the 'other' committed while boasting, justifying or completely ignoring their own So then wouldn't not building it there take any reason for any retaliation or things of that nature? |
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laden with hyperlinks for individuals to point to citation sources, I am going to interject on the "Mosque Debate" here going on personal opinion only. I think the whole idea is misconstrued. People debate that they have a right to construct this ... it's in our own constitution. I have no problem with them constructing one. My problem is where they want to put it. It's out of respect to those lives that were taken on 9/11. To me it's like putting an atomic research facility in Hiroshima or Nagasaki. It's a slap in the face, to those involved and to our country. There are those that will say, "It's wrong not to let them do it." And to those people I say, "How is it right?" Better yet don't explain it to me, grow a pair and explain it to a family who lost someone in the twin towers on that day. Hey is it fair? Who cares? Life isn't nice or fair, but I say maybe the idea will pass, but I doubt some of the American people will let it get much further. is it considerate to say to muslim families who lost loved ones that they dont count as much? because muslim extremists caused deaths of thousands a couple blocks away, they shouldnt be able to practice their religion there or remember in their way? nuclear weapons were responsible for nagasaki, muslims werent responsible for 9/11 , muslim extremists were. do we know that nagasaki wouldnt have been bombed without the technology to do so,,,yes do we know 9/11 would not have happened were there not muslims,, no 9/11 was in response to political wrongs, but we werent go into that, we will just make all the responsibility one sided and push the muslims ability to reach out in the community aside I guess christian americans should be the only ones who matter enough to pursue building up the area, muslim americans are second class because of what extremists did and they should gladly RESPECT that sentiment,,, I agree. But when people speak of RESPECTING people it seems in this debate they often leave out respect for muslims who also lost their family members. the suicide bombers are DEAD.. respect for the MUSLIMS of this country and of new york,,,,seriously |
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laden with hyperlinks for individuals to point to citation sources, I am going to interject on the "Mosque Debate" here going on personal opinion only. I think the whole idea is misconstrued. People debate that they have a right to construct this ... it's in our own constitution. I have no problem with them constructing one. My problem is where they want to put it. It's out of respect to those lives that were taken on 9/11. To me it's like putting an atomic research facility in Hiroshima or Nagasaki. It's a slap in the face, to those involved and to our country. There are those that will say, "It's wrong not to let them do it." And to those people I say, "How is it right?" Better yet don't explain it to me, grow a pair and explain it to a family who lost someone in the twin towers on that day. Hey is it fair? Who cares? Life isn't nice or fair, but I say maybe the idea will pass, but I doubt some of the American people will let it get much further. is it considerate to say to muslim families who lost loved ones that they dont count as much? because muslim extremists caused deaths of thousands a couple blocks away, they shouldnt be able to practice their religion there or remember in their way? nuclear weapons were responsible for nagasaki, muslims werent responsible for 9/11 , muslim extremists were. do we know that nagasaki wouldnt have been bombed without the technology to do so,,,yes do we know 9/11 would not have happened were there not muslims,, no 9/11 was in response to political wrongs, but we werent go into that, we will just make all the responsibility one sided and push the muslims ability to reach out in the community aside I guess christian americans should be the only ones who matter enough to pursue building up the area, muslim americans are second class because of what extremists did and they should gladly RESPECT that sentiment,,, I agree. But when people speak of RESPECTING people it seems in this debate they often leave out respect for muslims who also lost their family members. the suicide bombers are DEAD.. respect for the MUSLIMS of this country and of new york,,,,seriously people who died at the hands of those terrorists also consisted of MUSLIMS |
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Thinking about it, this debate really makes no sense. In all likelihood if it is approved.....well accidents happen. The one thing that comes to mind for me is, if it is built there I think it will incite violence and something bad will happen there. Obama said we need to show tollerance. Where is the tollerance and understanding for those who lost loved ones 9-11-01? If something bad does happen then who would be to blame? Those who supported it being built there or the radicals who commit the act? dont you know BOTH will be blamed by each other, thats how this nonsense continues to grow Osama defended 9/11 as retaliation against terrorist support from American government of people who attacked his people than we defended going after Iraq as retaliation against terrorist support of the organization that committed 9/11 and it goes on and on, each time , with everyone feeling justified in their feelings and their actions... being well versed on the atrocities the 'other' committed while boasting, justifying or completely ignoring their own So then wouldn't not building it there take any reason for any retaliation or things of that nature? great people have risked 'retaliation' in the past look people like Rosa Parks and Silas Hunt sometimes emotions stem out of an ignorance that needs to be addressed in stead of backed down from look at |
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It ain't about the every day misled believer of ISlam. They are the peeoneese that have been lied to and believe in their pedophile.
Isn't that a sickening enough idea, some old man laying on top of a child defiling her. I don't understand how a sane people can defend that. I wanna' throw up. If, they would defend that, it seems to me, they would offer up their own girl children to the slaughter. It's about the Extremists with the money and the power to manipulate. Apparently, there are many in the US who have been manipulated. Thank God, the majority are still sane. I will pray for those who accept the perversion. |
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People really believe it was just the airplanes on 9-11 by these radical muslims? lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMfHxoM07YM I saw a great documentary a while back about 9-11 and the events that happened that day. As soon as I find the name of it I will post it here. I saw it on netflix. Wake up America!!!!!! |
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laden with hyperlinks for individuals to point to citation sources, I am going to interject on the "Mosque Debate" here going on personal opinion only. I think the whole idea is misconstrued. People debate that they have a right to construct this ... it's in our own constitution. I have no problem with them constructing one. My problem is where they want to put it. It's out of respect to those lives that were taken on 9/11. To me it's like putting an atomic research facility in Hiroshima or Nagasaki. It's a slap in the face, to those involved and to our country. There are those that will say, "It's wrong not to let them do it." And to those people I say, "How is it right?" Better yet don't explain it to me, grow a pair and explain it to a family who lost someone in the twin towers on that day. Hey is it fair? Who cares? Life isn't nice or fair, but I say maybe the idea will pass, but I doubt some of the American people will let it get much further. is it considerate to say to muslim families who lost loved ones that they dont count as much? because muslim extremists caused deaths of thousands a couple blocks away, they shouldnt be able to practice their religion there or remember in their way? nuclear weapons were responsible for nagasaki, muslims werent responsible for 9/11 , muslim extremists were. do we know that nagasaki wouldnt have been bombed without the technology to do so,,,yes do we know 9/11 would not have happened were there not muslims,, no 9/11 was in response to political wrongs, but we werent go into that, we will just make all the responsibility one sided and push the muslims ability to reach out in the community aside I guess christian americans should be the only ones who matter enough to pursue building up the area, muslim americans are second class because of what extremists did and they should gladly RESPECT that sentiment,,, I agree. But when people speak of RESPECTING people it seems in this debate they often leave out respect for muslims who also lost their family members. the suicide bombers are DEAD.. respect for the MUSLIMS of this country and of new york,,,,seriously people who died at the hands of those terrorists also consisted of MUSLIMS |
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will someone just type it and get it over with,America is full of to many theocracies..oh nevermind i just did
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People really believe it was just the airplanes on 9-11 by these radical muslims? lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMfHxoM07YM I saw a great documentary a while back about 9-11 and the events that happened that day. As soon as I find the name of it I will post it here. I saw it on netflix. Wake up America!!!!!! Let me ask you. You are talking tolerance. If Mohamed came to you if you had a girl around 8 years old and he told you he wanted to buy her from you for her to be his wife. Would you sell her? That is a part of Islam. He would be offended if you didn't accept his offer. Would you want to be the one who was known to have offended the prophet? |
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Are are you so set on upholding the constitution to the letter. I'm sure the founding fathers didn't envision this when they wrote that.
They only follow it to the letter when it for something they want. Other than that it's just a piece of paper. |
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will someone just type it and get it over with,America is full of to many theocracies..oh nevermind i just did
its not the theocracy or the democracy, its they HYPOCRISY |
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Are are you so set on upholding the constitution to the letter. I'm sure the founding fathers didn't envision this when they wrote that.
They only follow it to the letter when it for something they want. Other than that it's just a piece of paper. I agree, I dont really worship the constitution myself, but it is the governments job to uphold it, not mine. I dont think everything can be defined with the constitution, but I know people rarely debate the constitution in issues like this, they usually just debate WHO should be granted the respect to benefit from rights it grants to ALL americans. I dont think ANY americans should have freedom to bear any and all arms. I also dont think ANY americans should be permitted to forego healthcare costs , SO LONG AS , hospitals are mandated to treat emergency situations. so my arguments, at least, are consistent opposition to certain constititional 'rights' people in these threads though, dont seem to be debating the right to practice religion(including their own), as much as they are debating how RESPECTFUL it is for certain people to exercise those rights, in which case, such protests seem to be hypocritical and bigoted |
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Are are you so set on upholding the constitution to the letter. I'm sure the founding fathers didn't envision this when they wrote that.
They only follow it to the letter when it for something they want. Other than that it's just a piece of paper. That is the Political hypocrisy. Hamas and Hussein would be very content to see us fall. |
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laden with hyperlinks for individuals to point to citation sources, I am going to interject on the "Mosque Debate" here going on personal opinion only. I think the whole idea is misconstrued. People debate that they have a right to construct this ... it's in our own constitution. I have no problem with them constructing one. My problem is where they want to put it. It's out of respect to those lives that were taken on 9/11. To me it's like putting an atomic research facility in Hiroshima or Nagasaki. It's a slap in the face, to those involved and to our country. There are those that will say, "It's wrong not to let them do it." And to those people I say, "How is it right?" Better yet don't explain it to me, grow a pair and explain it to a family who lost someone in the twin towers on that day. Hey is it fair? Who cares? Life isn't nice or fair, but I say maybe the idea will pass, but I doubt some of the American people will let it get much further. I disagree. There is no debating issues like these, people already have their own view and that is that. Regardless of anything else, their facts are facts. It is almost as ridiculous as saying that marijuana is still a gateway drug that causes people to get high, go on shooting rampages, and rob people. The slight deviation is that this is just a collection of opinion from around the web (yes, news is all opinion anymore, journalism died with Cronkite). Now I'm not saying it is bad taste to erect a mosque near the 9/11 site, but then again Muslim's didn't take down the towers...no, that my friends was extremist Muslim's. You know? Kind of like how Mormon's have their own extremist cults? Or Christianity with their extremist cults? Oh, wait, that's right...Christianity is perfect, correct? Okay, I lied...I'm throwing a link out here: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&rlz=&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=new+york+mosque&fb=1&gl=us&hq=mosque&hnear=New+York,+NY&ei=4ihrTPW0AYH0swPJsYlG&sa=X&oi=local_group&ct=image&resnum=7&ved=0CEsQtgMwBg |
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People really believe it was just the airplanes on 9-11 by these radical muslims? lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMfHxoM07YM I saw a great documentary a while back about 9-11 and the events that happened that day. As soon as I find the name of it I will post it here. I saw it on netflix. Wake up America!!!!!! Let me ask you. You are talking tolerance. If Mohamed came to you if you had a girl around 8 years old and he told you he wanted to buy her from you for her to be his wife. Would you sell her? That is a part of Islam. He would be offended if you didn't accept his offer. Would you want to be the one who was known to have offended the prophet? Gotta' feelin' this won't be answered. |
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People really believe it was just the airplanes on 9-11 by these radical muslims? lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMfHxoM07YM I saw a great documentary a while back about 9-11 and the events that happened that day. As soon as I find the name of it I will post it here. I saw it on netflix. Wake up America!!!!!! Let me ask you. You are talking tolerance. If Mohamed came to you if you had a girl around 8 years old and he told you he wanted to buy her from you for her to be his wife. Would you sell her? That is a part of Islam. He would be offended if you didn't accept his offer. Would you want to be the one who was known to have offended the prophet? He would never come to me, as I do not believe in islam or any other fairy tale. haha |
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Back to basics: The 'mosque' (to use a term very loosely) is NOT religious in nature. It commemorates the site of a MUSLIM MILITARY VICTORY. It represents to them VICTORY OVER THE INFIDEL. It is RUBBING OUR FACE in 'islam's military assassination of over 3,000 AMERICAN CITIZENS. To celebrate that atrocity with a 'victory mosque' is to dishonor the dead and the site. It is also a sign of American CAPITULATION and SURRENDER. The new word to remember is 'DHIMMI'.
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People really believe it was just the airplanes on 9-11 by these radical muslims? lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMfHxoM07YM I saw a great documentary a while back about 9-11 and the events that happened that day. As soon as I find the name of it I will post it here. I saw it on netflix. Wake up America!!!!!! Let me ask you. You are talking tolerance. If Mohamed came to you if you had a girl around 8 years old and he told you he wanted to buy her from you for her to be his wife. Would you sell her? That is a part of Islam. He would be offended if you didn't accept his offer. Would you want to be the one who was known to have offended the prophet? Gotta' feelin' this won't be answered. I am an Atheist, there is no way for me to even fathom this rediculous post. Sorry cowboy.
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Back to basics: The 'mosque' (to use a term very loosely) is NOT religious in nature. It commemorates the site of a MUSLIM MILITARY VICTORY. It represents to them VICTORY OVER THE INFIDEL. It is RUBBING OUR FACE in 'islam's military assassination of over 3,000 AMERICAN CITIZENS. To celebrate that atrocity with a 'victory mosque' is to dishonor the dead and the site. It is also a sign of American CAPITULATION and SURRENDER. The new word to remember is 'DHIMMI'. WRONG: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mosque |
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