Topic: gays target target...
mightymoe's photo
Fri 08/13/10 05:52 PM





When a company has a right to donate to whichever candidates they wish, people have the right to boycott if they wish. It's as simple as that. It's pretty silly to think that everyone should agree with who the company chooses to support. And of course it's going to offend some people. If you don't have an issue with it, continue shopping as usual. Easy enough, right?


So, once more you come down on the side of RESTRICTIONS on FREE SPEECH and 'SPECIAL RIGHTS' instead of EQUAL rights ... I quit being surprised by this some time ago.


Target, just like other companies, have the right to donate to which candidate they want, right? You, just like those protesting have the right to protest if you want, right? What's the issue?


the issue is...again... the.. gays.. are..demanding..that..target..
donate..money..to..someone..of..their..choice..to,..instead..of..donating..it..themselves..they are using mobster tactics to again, get what they want. most any other group would just boycott, but the pink panthers are saying target needs to donate more money to a gay supporter, or they will boycott. they are telling target who to support or not to support. you're one of the main ones that always bit#$ and moan about someones freedoms and rights, but i'm seeing thats only when you agree with who's rights are being violated.



IM with sing on this,, totally missing whose rights are being violated

the 'gays' are using their right to spend money where they wish,,just as TARGET is using their right to donate where they wish

if the 'gays' choose not to do business with Target, for whatever reason, how is that violating any of Targets rights?


you used to be able to read... are your glasses dirty?

Goofball73's photo
Fri 08/13/10 05:52 PM
Target has a nice electronics department.:thumbsup:

msharmony's photo
Fri 08/13/10 06:02 PM
lol

no photo
Fri 08/13/10 06:06 PM






When a company has a right to donate to whichever candidates they wish, people have the right to boycott if they wish. It's as simple as that. It's pretty silly to think that everyone should agree with who the company chooses to support. And of course it's going to offend some people. If you don't have an issue with it, continue shopping as usual. Easy enough, right?


So, once more you come down on the side of RESTRICTIONS on FREE SPEECH and 'SPECIAL RIGHTS' instead of EQUAL rights ... I quit being surprised by this some time ago.


Target, just like other companies, have the right to donate to which candidate they want, right? You, just like those protesting have the right to protest if you want, right? What's the issue?


the issue is...again... the.. gays.. are..demanding..that..target..
donate..money..to..someone..of..their..choice..to,..instead..of..donating..it..themselves..they are using mobster tactics to again, get what they want. most any other group would just boycott, but the pink panthers are saying target needs to donate more money to a gay supporter, or they will boycott. they are telling target who to support or not to support. you're one of the main ones that always bit#$ and moan about someones freedoms and rights, but i'm seeing thats only when you agree with who's rights are being violated.



IM with sing on this,, totally missing whose rights are being violated

the 'gays' are using their right to spend money where they wish,,just as TARGET is using their right to donate where they wish

if the 'gays' choose not to do business with Target, for whatever reason, how is that violating any of Targets rights?


you used to be able to read... are your glasses dirty?


See why it just don't pay tryin' to be nice to some people ... ?

mightymoe's photo
Fri 08/13/10 06:09 PM







When a company has a right to donate to whichever candidates they wish, people have the right to boycott if they wish. It's as simple as that. It's pretty silly to think that everyone should agree with who the company chooses to support. And of course it's going to offend some people. If you don't have an issue with it, continue shopping as usual. Easy enough, right?


So, once more you come down on the side of RESTRICTIONS on FREE SPEECH and 'SPECIAL RIGHTS' instead of EQUAL rights ... I quit being surprised by this some time ago.


Target, just like other companies, have the right to donate to which candidate they want, right? You, just like those protesting have the right to protest if you want, right? What's the issue?


the issue is...again... the.. gays.. are..demanding..that..target..
donate..money..to..someone..of..their..choice..to,..instead..of..donating..it..themselves..they are using mobster tactics to again, get what they want. most any other group would just boycott, but the pink panthers are saying target needs to donate more money to a gay supporter, or they will boycott. they are telling target who to support or not to support. you're one of the main ones that always bit#$ and moan about someones freedoms and rights, but i'm seeing thats only when you agree with who's rights are being violated.



IM with sing on this,, totally missing whose rights are being violated

the 'gays' are using their right to spend money where they wish,,just as TARGET is using their right to donate where they wish

if the 'gays' choose not to do business with Target, for whatever reason, how is that violating any of Targets rights?


you used to be able to read... are your glasses dirty?


See why it just don't pay tryin' to be nice to some people ... ?


i'm getting there...ms is still ok, but their are a couple of others...

Dragoness's photo
Fri 08/13/10 06:40 PM
The gay folks can't DEMAND anything out of Target.

They can tell Target they will boycott them if they don't make themselves more humane in their donations.

Sensationalism in journalism is a good tool of influence but it is still not true regardless.

mightymoe's photo
Fri 08/13/10 06:46 PM

The gay folks can't DEMAND anything out of Target.

They can tell Target they will boycott them if they don't make themselves more humane in their donations.

Sensationalism in journalism is a good tool of influence but it is still not true regardless.

it doesn't matter what you think gays can or can't do.
they are doing it regardless of what you think.

willing2's photo
Fri 08/13/10 07:03 PM
Edited by willing2 on Fri 08/13/10 07:21 PM
I seen some dem bulls wut wants ta' be boycottin'!tongue2

They needs ta' be boycottin' Dunkin' Doughnuts, McDonalds or the fridge!!!scared laugh laugh laugh

Yep, would make a great tee shirt for th' boycotteners.

Wish we had one here.

They're havin' a great back-to-school sale goin' on and you can print out their coupons.

Target. One great Store!!!drinker

Redykeulous's photo
Fri 08/13/10 07:51 PM
Edited by Redykeulous on Fri 08/13/10 08:05 PM
Best Buy is also on the ‘targeted list’ for boycott. There is one thing that has been overlooked in this thread.

The Gay community ‘supports’ companies and organizations who are known for providing fair and equitable workplaces for the LGBT. There are awards given to these organization, and those awards are published nationally, at the expense of the organizations who support LGBT issues for equality, organizations like HRC. Many local pride organizations bolster patronage to the businesses who maintain the criteria of equality as well.

A huge portion of the LGBT and its supporters, such as PFlag, have local directories and there are national directories through which millions of people determine where they will spend their money.

Best Buy and Target have a history of their support through their employment records and to the local communiteis for theie level of equal treatment of all.

Essentially, their actions, as fair and equal employers, have led to a FREE multi-million dollar Ad Campaign and solicitaion.

It was a slap in the face when funds were donated to support election campaigns of people who are known for their prejudice and their discriminatory stand against the LGBT.

What the LGBT (and their supporters) are asking of Target and Best Buy, is that they continue to follow a long record of non-bias and fair and equal treatment by donating a similar amount to a known LGBT supporter, or at least someone who has a record of standing up for equality for all

And the reward for Target and Best Buy, would be to maintain their place in the Ad Campaign that solicits, and recommends, patronage to the LGBT, their supporters and supporters of all equality.

Of course they don’t have respond at all – but they loose the free advertising AND the patronage of millions.

Wall-Mart has been boycotted for their employment practices, their pay scale and so on - and tht had nothing to do with LGBT - that was a national campaign illicited by the straight community.

What is the difference?

By the way - have not been WalMart for many years - I still boycott them, not becasue of their treatment of Gays but because of unethical employment practices of all.

Edit - no one has ever specified choice of donations for either Target or Best Buy - it IS THEIR CHOICE and as I said, they can choose not to act at all.

Redykeulous's photo
Fri 08/13/10 08:03 PM






The OP didn't post all of the article. This part explains more about what's going on.

"The flap has revealed new implications of a recent Supreme Court ruling that appeared to benefit corporations by clearing the way for them to spend company funds directly in elections. Companies taking sides in political campaigns risk alienating customers who back other candidates.

Target's $150,000 donation to a business-oriented group supporting Republican Tom Emmer, an outspoken opponent of gay marriage, was one of the first big corporate contributions to become known after the U.S. Supreme Court threw out prohibitions on corporate spending in elections earlier this year."


Oh. So now it's NOT OKAY for COMPANIES to have FREE SPEECH the way PRESSURE GROUPS do, right ... ? What you're saying is that 'free speech' is a LIMITED COMMODITY that's reserved for people who feel they've been 'victimized'. Sorry, that ain't the case. What IS the case is that these gays are once again advocating for and seeking SPECIAL RIGHTS - not EQUAL RIGHTS. If they were about EQUAL rights, they wouldn't have a problem with COMPANIES having an EQUAL VOICE in political campaigns. They better learn to live with it, 'cuz the majority that USED to be 'silent' ... AIN'T any more.


just don't pick on the gays, they have extra rights...



boycotting is noones extra right ,, its actually lawful for ANY american to choose what businesses they want to spend their money with and which ones they dont

I think its kind of silly to expect any person or business to support everyone we do or to refuse to support those we dont,,, in politics there are SO many issues, no candidate is going to come down on the 'right' side of everyone,,,but that being said

if this company is supporting an issue in opposition to what the 'boycotters' support, they should have the same choice we have

people opposed Ms Obama vacationing outside america and they have the right to oppose it and to show that opposition in any LEGAL manner they choose,,,,I dont see why this situation is any different in terms of people being able to express their opinion or try to affect change by legal means,,,


i'll say it AGAIN, i don't disagree with the boycott... i disagree with the gay group acting like gestapo agents and demanding that they(target) contribute to THE GAYS choice. THE GAYS can donate money as they see fit. so can target. to tell target to make a donation OR ELSE sounds illegal.

Let 'em go stand in protest at the Target Stores.
I don't think they will be as intimidating as the Black Panthers were at the polls.



As a side note - It was a Straight woman who found out about the donation Target made and SHE made the act known. She decided to make her last purchase - about $200 worth and then went to the return department to return the merchancise - asking to speak to the manager. (She has someone filming all this). She proceeded to explain her disappointment in their donation choice and that she intended to tell all her friends, the community and all those who support equality for all - to boycott Target until they made it right."

It was through this 'straight' woman that the situation came to light.

The LGBT community does not stand alone in its effort to achieve equality. Some poeple understand that this fight serves to strengthen the standard of equality in which this country used to have as much pride in as the current PRIDE community does today.

Goofball73's photo
Fri 08/13/10 08:10 PM
Y......M........C.......A.

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Fri 08/13/10 08:16 PM






When a company has a right to donate to whichever candidates they wish, people have the right to boycott if they wish. It's as simple as that. It's pretty silly to think that everyone should agree with who the company chooses to support. And of course it's going to offend some people. If you don't have an issue with it, continue shopping as usual. Easy enough, right?


So, once more you come down on the side of RESTRICTIONS on FREE SPEECH and 'SPECIAL RIGHTS' instead of EQUAL rights ... I quit being surprised by this some time ago.


Target, just like other companies, have the right to donate to which candidate they want, right? You, just like those protesting have the right to protest if you want, right? What's the issue?


the issue is...again... the.. gays.. are..demanding..that..target..
donate..money..to..someone..of..their..choice..to,..instead..of..donating..it..themselves..they are using mobster tactics to again, get what they want. most any other group would just boycott, but the pink panthers are saying target needs to donate more money to a gay supporter, or they will boycott. they are telling target who to support or not to support. you're one of the main ones that always bit#$ and moan about someones freedoms and rights, but i'm seeing thats only when you agree with who's rights are being violated.


Actually, it seems as you're the one who doesn't like it when a group you disagree with has the freedom to do something you don't like.

What rights are being violated by boycotting Target?

if you can't read, you can't read...i can't explain it clearer than i already have. i have posted it on here about 15 times already and i'm not doing it again. believe what you want, because i believe you just want to argue.


Just because they are boycotting for a reason you don't agree with doesn't mean your rights are being violated. And it doesn't mean Target's rights are being violated. As said before, Target can choose to donate to whoever they want to. People have the right to boycott if they want to. What are you missing here?

Dragoness's photo
Fri 08/13/10 08:23 PM


The gay folks can't DEMAND anything out of Target.

They can tell Target they will boycott them if they don't make themselves more humane in their donations.

Sensationalism in journalism is a good tool of influence but it is still not true regardless.

it doesn't matter what you think gays can or can't do.
they are doing it regardless of what you think.


They are doing what exactly that I don't think they can do?

They aren't doing anything to Target except trying to get them to be a support for all humans as they should be.

Goofball73's photo
Fri 08/13/10 08:26 PM
Who cares if they wanna boycott Target. Do you realize how many people boycott companies on a daily business? There can be religious, moral or whatever reasons behind a boycott. Gays will boycott Target today, and then the next day they will be upset with some other company and boycott them as well.

no photo
Fri 08/13/10 08:27 PM


The OP didn't post all of the article. This part explains more about what's going on.

"The flap has revealed new implications of a recent Supreme Court ruling that appeared to benefit corporations by clearing the way for them to spend company funds directly in elections. Companies taking sides in political campaigns risk alienating customers who back other candidates.

Target's $150,000 donation to a business-oriented group supporting Republican Tom Emmer, an outspoken opponent of gay marriage, was one of the first big corporate contributions to become known after the U.S. Supreme Court threw out prohibitions on corporate spending in elections earlier this year."


Oh. So now it's NOT OKAY for COMPANIES to have FREE SPEECH the way PRESSURE GROUPS do, right ... ? What you're saying is that 'free speech' is a LIMITED COMMODITY that's reserved for people who feel they've been 'victimized'. Sorry, that ain't the case. What IS the case is that these gays are once again advocating for and seeking SPECIAL RIGHTS - not EQUAL RIGHTS. If they were about EQUAL rights, they wouldn't have a problem with COMPANIES having an EQUAL VOICE in political campaigns. They better learn to live with it, 'cuz the majority that USED to be 'silent' ... AIN'T any more.


amen knight - friggin sick of special interests here, and zero discrimination here. I dont like ANY of themlaugh

Dragoness's photo
Fri 08/13/10 08:40 PM
Gay folks have lots of companies to work on too so Target will be just one and I support them all the way.


Redykeulous's photo
Fri 08/13/10 09:12 PM
As a general rule - Corporations, companies, and organizations will support whomever is on their side of an issue of particular interest to the company. Thier interest is whatever yields the best results to stockholders.

Obviously there is freedom to do so, not so obviously (at times) is the commitment and ability of a large group to 'likewise' affect stockholders interests.

That is the point being made by (the large group)who are requesting stockholder recognition of their 'purchase power'.

It's a capitalist society - remember - no purchase, no capital.

Sounds like the system is working just fine.

mightymoe's photo
Fri 08/13/10 09:22 PM







The OP didn't post all of the article. This part explains more about what's going on.

"The flap has revealed new implications of a recent Supreme Court ruling that appeared to benefit corporations by clearing the way for them to spend company funds directly in elections. Companies taking sides in political campaigns risk alienating customers who back other candidates.

Target's $150,000 donation to a business-oriented group supporting Republican Tom Emmer, an outspoken opponent of gay marriage, was one of the first big corporate contributions to become known after the U.S. Supreme Court threw out prohibitions on corporate spending in elections earlier this year."


Oh. So now it's NOT OKAY for COMPANIES to have FREE SPEECH the way PRESSURE GROUPS do, right ... ? What you're saying is that 'free speech' is a LIMITED COMMODITY that's reserved for people who feel they've been 'victimized'. Sorry, that ain't the case. What IS the case is that these gays are once again advocating for and seeking SPECIAL RIGHTS - not EQUAL RIGHTS. If they were about EQUAL rights, they wouldn't have a problem with COMPANIES having an EQUAL VOICE in political campaigns. They better learn to live with it, 'cuz the majority that USED to be 'silent' ... AIN'T any more.


just don't pick on the gays, they have extra rights...



boycotting is noones extra right ,, its actually lawful for ANY american to choose what businesses they want to spend their money with and which ones they dont

I think its kind of silly to expect any person or business to support everyone we do or to refuse to support those we dont,,, in politics there are SO many issues, no candidate is going to come down on the 'right' side of everyone,,,but that being said

if this company is supporting an issue in opposition to what the 'boycotters' support, they should have the same choice we have

people opposed Ms Obama vacationing outside america and they have the right to oppose it and to show that opposition in any LEGAL manner they choose,,,,I dont see why this situation is any different in terms of people being able to express their opinion or try to affect change by legal means,,,


i'll say it AGAIN, i don't disagree with the boycott... i disagree with the gay group acting like gestapo agents and demanding that they(target) contribute to THE GAYS choice. THE GAYS can donate money as they see fit. so can target. to tell target to make a donation OR ELSE sounds illegal.

Let 'em go stand in protest at the Target Stores.
I don't think they will be as intimidating as the Black Panthers were at the polls.



As a side note - It was a Straight woman who found out about the donation Target made and SHE made the act known. She decided to make her last purchase - about $200 worth and then went to the return department to return the merchancise - asking to speak to the manager. (She has someone filming all this). She proceeded to explain her disappointment in their donation choice and that she intended to tell all her friends, the community and all those who support equality for all - to boycott Target until they made it right."

It was through this 'straight' woman that the situation came to light.

The LGBT community does not stand alone in its effort to achieve equality. Some poeple understand that this fight serves to strengthen the standard of equality in which this country used to have as much pride in as the current PRIDE community does today.


what equality? gays are demanding that target donate money to the political party of their choosing, not who target wants. so whats next? telling people who to vote for?...kinda seems that's what they are saying by this. why don't the pink panthers donate their own money? because they doing just like the churches, trying to control people.

AndyBgood's photo
Fri 08/13/10 09:24 PM
A while back I was with a bunch of friends of mine at Disneyland. We had just gotten back into the park after a visit in the parking lot to enjoy some party favors in the privacy of the van we came in (tasty 4:20 and some brews we had brought with us! Molsen Goldens!:banana: ).

Now there was a couple making out hard and heavy on a bench near the 10,000 Leagues Under The Sea sub ride. Something looked very wrong about it. Now bear in mind two of the eight people that went with us that night were a BF and GF who went with us and they were kissing in the park and had security give them crap about it. Yet 8:something PM and there was this couple making out real Mac Daddy style in the park and Security didn't say squat to them. Then we seen why. It was two guys in a FAMILY park full of kids. It was a real stomach turning moment and I thought what I had been doing was screwing with my vision. When we realized what was going on we complained to security who told us they couldn't and wouldn't do anything about it. We were pissed. They threatened to throw two of us out for kissing in line for one of the rides, as a policy would throw us out of the park if they caught us enjoying 4:20, and were prohibitionist about a hoard of other things but they would not do anything about to gays making out in front of everyone.

It was a long time since I set foot in Disneyland after that. It was wrong!

Some Homosexuals want everything and then some with no regard for anyone else! Civil Unions wasn't enough for them and to be allowed to act lewd and lasciviously in public let alone a Family Oriented Theme Park?

Nope, some of these gay boys are going too far!

mightymoe's photo
Fri 08/13/10 09:32 PM

A while back I was with a bunch of friends of mine at Disneyland. We had just gotten back into the park after a visit in the parking lot to enjoy some party favors in the privacy of the van we came in (tasty 4:20 and some brews we had brought with us! Molsen Goldens!:banana: ).

Now there was a couple making out hard and heavy on a bench near the 10,000 Leagues Under The Sea sub ride. Something looked very wrong about it. Now bear in mind two of the eight people that went with us that night were a BF and GF who went with us and they were kissing in the park and had security give them crap about it. Yet 8:something PM and there was this couple making out real Mac Daddy style in the park and Security didn't say squat to them. Then we seen why. It was two guys in a FAMILY park full of kids. It was a real stomach turning moment and I thought what I had been doing was screwing with my vision. When we realized what was going on we complained to security who told us they couldn't and wouldn't do anything about it. We were pissed. They threatened to throw two of us out for kissing in line for one of the rides, as a policy would throw us out of the park if they caught us enjoying 4:20, and were prohibitionist about a hoard of other things but they would not do anything about to gays making out in front of everyone.

It was a long time since I set foot in Disneyland after that. It was wrong!

Some Homosexuals want everything and then some with no regard for anyone else! Civil Unions wasn't enough for them and to be allowed to act lewd and lasciviously in public let alone a Family Oriented Theme Park?

Nope, some of these gay boys are going too far!


disneyland is very gay. they were one of the first companies to give same sex spousal support. they have been open about it for years.
not a big deal to me, as long as they don't molest on my kids. Florida itself is a gay mecca, esp. south beach and key west. i will say this about south beach, the gay guys there were some of the most well manored i've ever met. instead of hitting on me, they asked if i was gay, which has never happened anywhere else. i lived on south beach for about 5 years, and it was a blast.