Topic: Figureheads....
Peccy's photo
Fri 07/23/10 05:13 AM
That's all that any president is. It takes MUCH more than a single person to get anything done. So why blame Bush? Why blame Obama? This whole financial fiasco that this country is in is not any one persons doing.

I was told by a person who worked in a "think tank" part of the government, that anyone who thinks that the President has one iota of control over our country is fooling themselves by believing what we are taught.

willing2's photo
Fri 07/23/10 06:53 AM
Think, Rothschild, Rockefeller , etc.

no photo
Fri 07/23/10 07:15 AM
Call me crazy, but the thought that the 'president' is somehow naught but an mere 'pawn of his New World Order masters' somehow leaves me feeling all kinda unimpressed and mystifyingly empty - almost as if I were devoid of sympathy for his existential plight - when I look around and see the destruction his policies have already created and cogitate for jes' a brief li'l minit about the destruction still to come when they're fully implemented. Naaaaaah ... I really can't muster up a lot of 'empathy' for his 'controlled life' ... color me unsympathetic ...

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Fri 07/23/10 10:38 AM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 07/23/10 10:39 AM

That's all that any president is. It takes MUCH more than a single person to get anything done. So why blame Bush? Why blame Obama? This whole financial fiasco that this country is in is not any one persons doing.

I was told by a person who worked in a "think tank" part of the government, that anyone who thinks that the President has one iota of control over our country is fooling themselves by believing what we are taught.



I agree, I kind of think of him as a coach, but the team does the work. The team is the government, he puts out the lead and the basic play ideas, but the team has to execute them. BUT, that being said, as a figurehead even , the President is responsible for being a leader in his or her ways and attitudes because I do think he represents to the rest of the world what America is.... doesnt fare well if we have an untelligble leader, or a bully, etc,,,,




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Fri 07/23/10 11:56 AM

That's all that any president is. It takes MUCH more than a single person to get anything done. So why blame Bush? Why blame Obama? This whole financial fiasco that this country is in is not any one persons doing.

I was told by a person who worked in a "think tank" part of the government, that anyone who thinks that the President has one iota of control over our country is fooling themselves by believing what we are taught.


So, had Bush not wanted to go to war with Iraq and Afghanistan, we would have still gone there without his approval?noway


I think you underestimate the wishes of the president being influential in our government.

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Fri 07/23/10 12:29 PM
Alright, I admit it. The president, congress, state legislatures, all a sham. I run it all out of my basement, and do everything just for the entertainment value.

msharmony's photo
Fri 07/23/10 01:09 PM

Alright, I admit it. The president, congress, state legislatures, all a sham. I run it all out of my basement, and do everything just for the entertainment value.



lol, valid points here

in a nutshell what the president does is:

The Constitution assigns the president two roles: chief executive of the federal government and Commander in Chief of the armed forces. As Commander in Chief, the president has the authority to send troops into combat, and is the only one who can decide whether to use nuclear weapons.

As chief executive, he enforces laws, treaties, and court rulings; develops federal policies; prepares the national budget; and appoints federal officials. He also approves or vetoes acts of Congress and grants pardons.


if you notice, the first three chief executive duties come at the END of the process, AFTER someone else writes the laws, or treaty, or court ruling

the next two duties (develop and prepare) require someone else to follow up

its really the last two duties,, appointing officials and approving/vetoing bills that he can do all by him or her self

dec47's photo
Fri 07/23/10 02:16 PM

That's all that any president is. It takes MUCH more than a single person to get anything done. So why blame Bush? Why blame Obama? This whole financial fiasco that this country is in is not any one persons doing.

I was told by a person who worked in a "think tank" part of the government, that anyone who thinks that the President has one iota of control over our country is fooling themselves by believing what we are taught.



Your friend is well informed. We all would be wise to study history and take a closer look at the Bilderberg Group, The members of the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission. Not here to defend anything but the Bill of Rights and the Constitution. If Lieberman gets his way and Obama signs his bill....say goodbye to the internet and say hello to our new friend China. Serfdom is coming and its wearing a designer suit called "Democracy" all in the name of National Security.

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Fri 07/23/10 02:39 PM
In 1961, John F. Kennedy warned in a speech “For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence–on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations. Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed”. Sadly, Kennedy ignored his own advice, took these people on, and was “silenced”!

Now this was said almost 50 years ago...why does everything still think we are nothing but a bunch of conspiracy theorist? Remember this was the "Commander in Chief" of the free world.

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Fri 07/23/10 03:19 PM

That's all that any president is. It takes MUCH more than a single person to get anything done. So why blame Bush? Why blame Obama? This whole financial fiasco that this country is in is not any one persons doing.

I was told by a person who worked in a "think tank" part of the government, that anyone who thinks that the President has one iota of control over our country is fooling themselves by believing what we are taught.




Did they assassinate JFK just for fun?

The idea of “irrelevant presidents” is the current administration’s excuse of not delivering the promised “Change”. It is also comfortable for the previous administration, since blaming the Dems for Reps’ actions is awkward, laughable, and overused.