Topic: why human LUST?
omahaquill's photo
Tue 07/13/10 05:47 PM

Now all you have to do is ask jebus to forgive you and all is well, until Seakolony sticks a fork in yer eye.rofl rofl rofl rofl Just kidding.


We'll call the fire department when we start smelling you burn buddy....

LOL

drinker

prettybubbles's photo
Tue 07/13/10 05:49 PM
just share your brilliant ideas :smile:

heavenlyboy34's photo
Tue 07/13/10 05:52 PM
Edited by heavenlyboy34 on Tue 07/13/10 05:55 PM

Lust is deadly because it precludes the dignity of the human person. In short, it puts the sexual act before ones human sexuality which reaches perfection when man and woman embrace in the marital act; an act protected by vows and a community of witnesses.

Deadly = evil and evil is the absence of good. Therefore, the human sexual act is evil qua deadly when it is done outside of its protected bounds.


Aww, you're no fun! tears Does your definition of "marriage" only include monogamous marriage? If so, why? Monogamy is the rarest form of marriage in human history. Polygamy is far more common.

Phuque2's photo
Tue 07/13/10 05:55 PM


Now all you have to do is ask jebus to forgive you and all is well, until Seakolony sticks a fork in yer eye.rofl rofl rofl rofl Just kidding.


We'll call the fire department when we start smelling you burn buddy....

LOL

drinker


I smoke after sex, but I just throw a little water on it and it goes out....

heavenlyboy34's photo
Tue 07/13/10 05:56 PM


no such thing as sin.



What? If that's true, then there is no God... No God, no rules..no rules, let's rape and pillage the whole world!

Isn't that just silly.


Nietzche said "God is dead". Maybe he was right? :wink: pitchfork

prettybubbles's photo
Tue 07/13/10 06:05 PM
sadly, the fruit of this view is often self-hatred, shame, and contempt--which lead to increased sexual struggles. After decades of failure many with this view either conclude they are oppressed by demons or doubt their salvation.


msharmony's photo
Tue 07/13/10 06:09 PM

huh? dont look my shirt... its not the topic lol


i thought it was a swimsuit...lol

CowboyGH's photo
Tue 07/13/10 06:18 PM

is it a deadly sin?drinks


because lust is a strong desire. Causes people to do all kinds of dirty things to achieve. And is a fleshly desire and we aren't to live by the flesh we are to live by the spirit. Meaning the things we do in our lives does it satisfy the flesh or spirit. The flesh dies and decays, the spirit is forever. And is why it's a deadly sin, because it leads no where.

laughandlove4ever's photo
Tue 07/13/10 06:21 PM
All sin is deadly.....whether it be lust, greed, murder, thievery, lying, etc...

In reality, sin is more a condition of the heart than it is an act; we are sinners, therefore we sin. Plain and simple.

The solution to sin is found through the finished work of Jesus Christ. Jesus satisfied God's justice and wrath against our sin by offering himself up on the cross to be punished in our place, so we wouldn't have to ultimately receive the justice we all deserve for breaking God's law. That's how much God loves each of us; that he would be willing to send His son to die a substitute death, that we might live. His resurrection from the dead testifies to the fact that this whole issue of sin has been successfully dealt with, to our benefit, if we would receive by faith what Jesus has accomplished for us.

We can try to be good by not lusting, lying, etc... and as a believer in Christ, I rely on God's strength to walk the walk, but even so, sin still has it's way at times, and no one is any different. Even those we deem to be above reproach (Billy Graham/Mother Teresa) would admit they sin, too. Which is why we all need a Saviour. The bottom line is this: we all need someone greater than ourselves to not only help us with our struggle against sin in this life, but we also need this same someone to provide atonement for sin before God, who we all must stand before one day. His name is Jesus.

lilott's photo
Tue 07/13/10 06:24 PM
Sex is for the birds.

Abracadabra's photo
Tue 07/13/10 06:25 PM


is it a deadly sin?drinks


yeah, if you think of it as an uncontrollable urge,, anything uncontrolled has the potential to be chaotic,, and therefore, deadly


I tend to agree with MsHarmony on this point.

Lust it not mere desire. It's good to desire things. There's nothing wrong with desire. It only becomes deterimental when the desire becomes an uncontrollable obscession, then it becomes "lust".

I don't think I've every "lusted" after anything. As pitiful as that may be. laugh

Although I do confess that I have a high desire for some things. But I've personally never felt that it's ever crossed the line to become 'lust'.

Funny how "sins" truly come down to subjectivity. laugh

There can be no such thing as an 'absolute sin' because most 'sins' are a matter of degree. Like I say, surely there's nothing wrong with desire. So when does desire become 'lust'?

That's clearly a subjective call.

If a couple have sex two or three times a day. Are they lusting after sex? Or do they just have a healthy high desire for sex?

Interesting questions.

CowboyGH's photo
Tue 07/13/10 06:26 PM

All sin is deadly.....whether it be lust, greed, murder, thievery, lying, etc...

In reality, sin is more a condition of the heart than it is an act; we are sinners, therefore we sin. Plain and simple.

The solution to sin is found through the finished work of Jesus Christ. Jesus satisfied God's justice and wrath against our sin by offering himself up on the cross to be punished in our place, so we wouldn't have to ultimately receive the justice we all deserve for breaking God's law. That's how much God loves each of us; that he would be willing to send His son to die a substitute death, that we might live. His resurrection from the dead testifies to the fact that this whole issue of sin has been successfully dealt with, to our benefit, if we would receive by faith what Jesus has accomplished for us.

We can try to be good by not lusting, lying, etc... and as a believer in Christ, I rely on God's strength to walk the walk, but even so, sin still has it's way at times, and no one is any different. Even those we deem to be above reproach (Billy Graham/Mother Teresa) would admit they sin, too. Which is why we all need a Saviour. The bottom line is this: we all need someone greater than ourselves to not only help us with our struggle against sin in this life, but we also need this same someone to provide atonement for sin before God, who we all must stand before one day. His name is Jesus.


AMEN!!!

msharmony's photo
Tue 07/13/10 06:28 PM



is it a deadly sin?drinks


yeah, if you think of it as an uncontrollable urge,, anything uncontrolled has the potential to be chaotic,, and therefore, deadly


I tend to agree with MsHarmony on this point.

Lust it not mere desire. It's good to desire things. There's nothing wrong with desire. It only becomes deterimental when the desire becomes an uncontrollable obscession, then it becomes "lust".

I don't think I've every "lusted" after anything. As pitiful as that may be. laugh

Although I do confess that I have a high desire for some things. But I've personally never felt that it's ever crossed the line to become 'lust'.

Funny how "sins" truly come down to subjectivity. laugh

There can be no such thing as an 'absolute sin' because most 'sins' are a matter of degree. Like I say, surely there's nothing wrong with desire. So when does desire become 'lust'?

That's clearly a subjective call.

If a couple have sex two or three times a day. Are they lusting after sex? Or do they just have a healthy high desire for sex?

Interesting questions.


indeed, I have had that same question regarding sexuality,,, i dont think I have ever looked upon a male or female with a desire to have sex with them, so does that make me Asexaul? I have always found both genders to be attractive, but I have not quite related to what 'sexually' attracted meant

it has always required a more emotionally intimate knowledge of a person for a more intimate attraction to occur, and that was never about gender for me,, although my partnering choices were

perhaps we are both strange,,lol, maybe thats why we get along even when our views differ so much,,,

Seakolony's photo
Tue 07/13/10 06:33 PM
Does a piece of paper indicate marriage? Or does a life long commitment of mating and acceptance into the understanding of agape love constitute marriage.....In essesnce do we have to pay the government for our marriage to be accepted and condoned by god.....or does following the rules and guidelines within your marriage placed for under christianity a marriage under god make?

Abracadabra's photo
Tue 07/13/10 06:34 PM
laughandlove4ever wrote:

In reality, sin is more a condition of the heart than it is an act; we are sinners, therefore we sin. Plain and simple.


But wait a minute. You just said that sin is more a condition of the heart than it is an act. Then you say "we" are sinners, therefore we "sin".

Speak for yourself. Who's the "we"?

You seem to be implying that you know what's in other people's hearts.

If sin is a matter of the heart, then I may very well have never sinned in my entire life. Even at times when I committed acts that might 'appear' to be sins to other people. Since, in my heart, those acts were actually carried out in innocence (and possibly even in an act of self-defense). For example, giving mis-information to avoid being physically punished. If the act of lying is not a sin in and of itself, and the only thing that makes it is a sin is the reason for the mis-information, then a person can give mis-information without committing a sin, assuming that their heart is in the right place. bigsmile

I'm a firm believer of this as well. Sins would not have much to do with the act, but rather the reasons behind the act. A police office kills a sniper, for example. Well killing is a sin, but not in this case because the ACT was justified.


Most of us have probably never sinned at all, just like Jesus. That's why the scriptures have him saying that he did not come for the righteous but for the sinners. Since most of us are righteous, we don't need a savior. We are pure and holy in our own right. :angel:

Ruth34611's photo
Tue 07/13/10 06:35 PM

is it a deadly sin?drinks


Are you Catholic? Because, generally speaking, only Catholics have such a thing as a "deadly" sin. If you are, then you should ask a priest. If you're not, what do you care???

Abracadabra's photo
Tue 07/13/10 06:40 PM

indeed, I have had that same question regarding sexuality,,, i dont think I have ever looked upon a male or female with a desire to have sex with them, so does that make me Asexaul? I have always found both genders to be attractive, but I have not quite related to what 'sexually' attracted meant

it has always required a more emotionally intimate knowledge of a person for a more intimate attraction to occur, and that was never about gender for me,, although my partnering choices were

perhaps we are both strange,,lol, maybe thats why we get along even when our views differ so much,,,


I prefer an emotional connection too, which I'm told is truly strange for a man. But then I don't care for the Three Stooges either so I'm already disqualified for the "macho club". laugh

Abracadabra's photo
Tue 07/13/10 06:45 PM


is it a deadly sin?drinks


Are you Catholic? Because, generally speaking, only Catholics have such a thing as a "deadly" sin. If you are, then you should ask a priest. If you're not, what do you care???


If I were going to go to a priest for advice, the first thing I would do is be sure NOT to even bring up the word "lust".

Instead, what I would do is explain to the hierophant the situation that concerns me and then see what advice he or she gives (are their female priest yet?)

Anyway, the priest might not even see the situation as being a situation of 'lust' maybe he will see it in some other light altogether.

Ruth34611's photo
Tue 07/13/10 06:48 PM



is it a deadly sin?drinks


Are you Catholic? Because, generally speaking, only Catholics have such a thing as a "deadly" sin. If you are, then you should ask a priest. If you're not, what do you care???


If I were going to go to a priest for advice, the first thing I would do is be sure NOT to even bring up the word "lust".

Instead, what I would do is explain to the hierophant the situation that concerns me and then see what advice he or she gives (are their female priest yet?)

Anyway, the priest might not even see the situation as being a situation of 'lust' maybe he will see it in some other light altogether.


There are no female Catholic priests.

I think lust is a good thing. I hope to feel it again one day.


mightymoe's photo
Tue 07/13/10 06:50 PM




is it a deadly sin?drinks


Are you Catholic? Because, generally speaking, only Catholics have such a thing as a "deadly" sin. If you are, then you should ask a priest. If you're not, what do you care???


If I were going to go to a priest for advice, the first thing I would do is be sure NOT to even bring up the word "lust".

Instead, what I would do is explain to the hierophant the situation that concerns me and then see what advice he or she gives (are their female priest yet?)

Anyway, the priest might not even see the situation as being a situation of 'lust' maybe he will see it in some other light altogether.


There are no female Catholic priests.

I think lust is a good thing. I hope to feel it again one day.




lusting or getting lusted over?
:wink: