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Topic: It's PAYBACK, Cracker ...
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Fri 07/09/10 10:28 PM
This from over at 'PowerLine's site ... If Malik Shabazz is the 'Vison of Things To Come', then we're headin' toward being South Africa under Winnie Mandela ... or we're gonna be replaying 'Hutus vs Tutsis' in real life on our streets ... 'Hope'. 'Change'. Yeah ...

This is nothing more than 'payback' - and it IS racially motivated, no matter what kind of spin is put on it to say otherwise. This case had been ADJUDICATED and the NBP found GUILTY before Holder ordered it dismissed.

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THE BENEFICIARIES OF HOLDER'S FAVORITISM

July 9, 2010 Posted by John at 11:29 PM

The New Black Panthers are understandably happy about the fact that Attorney General Eric Holder ordered that charges of voter intimidation against them be dropped--after they had defaulted and the case had been won by career DOJ lawyers. No doubt factors other than racism could be brought forward to explain Holder's decision, but at the moment I can't quite think what they would be. Here you see the head of the New Black Panthers, Malik Shabazz, recounting the episode from the Panthers' perspective. For what it's worth, they don't seem to have a lot of doubt about Holder's motivation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JunrpGf5QRc&feature=player_embedded

I wonder how many people who watch this video will say, Yeah, good idea, let's suspend law enforcement in favor of these guys.

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Fri 07/09/10 10:29 PM
Dumb move, will backfire, give it time.

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Fri 07/09/10 11:06 PM
Why is it, that someone who is a mulatto (black and white parents) is automatically a black person?

Eric Holder is multiracial so why is he accepted as black? Same with Obama?

Why is Vin Diesel is not a black person, while his father was black?

What does it come down to to determine?

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Fri 07/09/10 11:10 PM

Why is it, that someone who is a mulatto (black and white parents) is automatically a black person?

Eric Holder is multiracial so why is he accepted as black? Same with Obama?

Why is Vin Diesel is not a black person, while his father was black?

What does it come down to to determine?


Skin. Unfortunately, most of the United States hasn't been able to move past the color of someone.

Personally, I don't care. Obama isn't really holding his own in this presidency.

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Fri 07/09/10 11:32 PM
Okay what if it had been Hell's Angels? It would not have been dismissed.....but here is the upside.....the case can know go through the apellant process....

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Fri 07/09/10 11:39 PM
This guy isn't the smartest person in the world.First saying black panthers don't carry nightsticks and then admitting one of his own was the guy in the video with night stick.Interesting uniform they have there.Looks like a cross between Salvation army at Christmas and a suit Vanilla ice would wear at his conert.

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Sat 07/10/10 12:55 AM

Why is it, that someone who is a mulatto (black and white parents) is automatically a black person?

Eric Holder is multiracial so why is he accepted as black? Same with Obama?

Why is Vin Diesel is not a black person, while his father was black?

What does it come down to to determine?



depends upon whom you ask,, I consider tham all to be black, some go by the father, some go by the mother, some go by both, I go by a combination of genetics and SOCIAL recognition,,,,,


in a crime, witnesses would PROBABLY identify MR Holder and Mr OBama as black men,,,,Vin Diesel may be more of a puzzle depending upon his particular style that day

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Sat 07/10/10 12:57 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 07/10/10 01:01 AM

Okay what if it had been Hell's Angels? It would not have been dismissed.....but here is the upside.....the case can know go through the apellant process....


I dont know the facts of the case. All I know so far is members of the party were at the polling places(their right as citizens) and ONE of those members was 'caught on tape' being 'intimidating' (which is not legal at the polling place). I know that person was taken away and restricted from the polling place and the charges against the whole ORGANIZATION based on what that person did was dropped.

I dont really think it would be different with hells angels. IF the only evidence was of ONE member being there against their rights with a weapon. The charge would be against that person.

People think on both sides with their emotions instead of with logic. I have heard it said about this young man in vegas who beat his best friend and was not charged,,that it was because he was white. Logically, it makes sense to me that he was not charged because until cause of death is determined, the question of WHAT SPECIFICALLY he can be charged with is not determined. The same is true here with this NBP member. What the individual can be charged with is one thing,, what legal grounds there are to charge the WHOLE ORGANIZATION is a totally different animal.

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Sat 07/10/10 01:06 AM

This guy isn't the smartest person in the world.First saying black panthers don't carry nightsticks and then admitting one of his own was the guy in the video with night stick.Interesting uniform they have there.Looks like a cross between Salvation army at Christmas and a suit Vanilla ice would wear at his conert.



seems like he just admitted the truth,, dont see what was unwise about it. HE didnt say he sent him there with a baton, and actually said the persons actions were 'too strong',,,,,I didnt hear him anywhere condoning what had happened or promoting it.....

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Sat 07/10/10 06:18 AM
I don't condone the violence.

If it came right down to a confrontation, the White Supremacists are much better armed and militarily organized than the panthers.

Would be a no-contest.

However, I don't think they'd really waste their time on a terror group that is just mouth.

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Sat 07/10/10 10:25 AM
Edited by Kings_Knight on Sat 07/10/10 10:27 AM


Okay what if it had been Hell's Angels? It would not have been dismissed.....but here is the upside.....the case can know go through the apellant process....


I dont know the facts of the case. All I know so far is members of the party were at the polling places(their right as citizens) and ONE of those members was 'caught on tape' being 'intimidating' (which is not legal at the polling place). I know that person was taken away and restricted from the polling place and the charges against the whole ORGANIZATION based on what that person did was dropped.

I dont really think it would be different with hells angels. IF the only evidence was of ONE member being there against their rights with a weapon. The charge would be against that person.

People think on both sides with their emotions instead of with logic. I have heard it said about this young man in vegas who beat his best friend and was not charged,,that it was because he was white. Logically, it makes sense to me that he was not charged because until cause of death is determined, the question of WHAT SPECIFICALLY he can be charged with is not determined. The same is true here with this NBP member. What the individual can be charged with is one thing,, what legal grounds there are to charge the WHOLE ORGANIZATION is a totally different animal.


Perhaps you missed the part about the case having already been ADJUDICATED and the NBP having been FOUND GUILTY as charged by DoJ ... 'Selective understanding' seems to be a specialty ...

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Sat 07/10/10 10:40 AM

This from over at 'PowerLine's site ... If Malik Shabazz is the 'Vison of Things To Come', then we're headin' toward being South Africa under Winnie Mandela ... or we're gonna be replaying 'Hutus vs Tutsis' in real life on our streets ... 'Hope'. 'Change'. Yeah ...

This is nothing more than 'payback' - and it IS racially motivated, no matter what kind of spin is put on it to say otherwise. This case had been ADJUDICATED and the NBP found GUILTY before Holder ordered it dismissed.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

http://www.powerlineblog.com/

THE BENEFICIARIES OF HOLDER'S FAVORITISM

July 9, 2010 Posted by John at 11:29 PM

The New Black Panthers are understandably happy about the fact that Attorney General Eric Holder ordered that charges of voter intimidation against them be dropped--after they had defaulted and the case had been won by career DOJ lawyers. No doubt factors other than racism could be brought forward to explain Holder's decision, but at the moment I can't quite think what they would be. Here you see the head of the New Black Panthers, Malik Shabazz, recounting the episode from the Panthers' perspective. For what it's worth, they don't seem to have a lot of doubt about Holder's motivation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JunrpGf5QRc&feature=player_embedded

I wonder how many people who watch this video will say, Yeah, good idea, let's suspend law enforcement in favor of these guys.



This guy is being monitored by EVERY single group that mositors hate crimes and groups. No one respectable takes him seriously.

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Sat 07/10/10 10:42 AM

Okay what if it had been Hell's Angels? It would not have been dismissed.....but here is the upside.....the case can know go through the apellant process....


Not if it's ben dismissed. There is no one to and nothing to appeal.

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Sat 07/10/10 10:43 AM

Why is it, that someone who is a mulatto (black and white parents) is automatically a black person?

Eric Holder is multiracial so why is he accepted as black? Same with Obama?

Why is Vin Diesel is not a black person, while his father was black?

What does it come down to to determine?


He's a black guy who acts white. I think theres a term for that but I could be mistaken...........

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Sat 07/10/10 10:44 AM

I don't condone the violence.

If it came right down to a confrontation, the White Supremacists are much better armed and militarily organized than the panthers.

Would be a no-contest.

However, I don't think they'd really waste their time on a terror group that is just mouth.


Hell, the Salvation Army is more militarily organized then the Panthers.

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Sat 07/10/10 10:47 AM
I know I was half asleep when qi read it sorry.....

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Sat 07/10/10 10:51 AM
Considering that the OP information is a blog quote from "John", I would rather not discuss "John's" personal opinion of what happened since it isn't accurate.

There is no way they will forgo police protection to allow panthers for security.

Fearmongering.

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Sat 07/10/10 10:56 AM

Considering that the OP information is a blog quote from "John", I would rather not discuss "John's" personal opinion of what happened since it isn't accurate.

There is no way they will forgo police protection to allow panthers for security.

Fearmongering.


Not 'RAYciss!' ... ? That's a first ...

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Sat 07/10/10 11:06 AM


Considering that the OP information is a blog quote from "John", I would rather not discuss "John's" personal opinion of what happened since it isn't accurate.

There is no way they will forgo police protection to allow panthers for security.

Fearmongering.


Not 'RAYciss!' ... ? That's a first ...


I'm waiting for it too, but come to think of it I didn't hear her scream racist when Harry Reid put in his book that Obama could turn off his Negro Dialect around White People, so Harry Reid basically called him an Uncle Tom, but no one cries foul.

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Sat 07/10/10 11:57 AM



Okay what if it had been Hell's Angels? It would not have been dismissed.....but here is the upside.....the case can know go through the apellant process....


I dont know the facts of the case. All I know so far is members of the party were at the polling places(their right as citizens) and ONE of those members was 'caught on tape' being 'intimidating' (which is not legal at the polling place). I know that person was taken away and restricted from the polling place and the charges against the whole ORGANIZATION based on what that person did was dropped.

I dont really think it would be different with hells angels. IF the only evidence was of ONE member being there against their rights with a weapon. The charge would be against that person.

People think on both sides with their emotions instead of with logic. I have heard it said about this young man in vegas who beat his best friend and was not charged,,that it was because he was white. Logically, it makes sense to me that he was not charged because until cause of death is determined, the question of WHAT SPECIFICALLY he can be charged with is not determined. The same is true here with this NBP member. What the individual can be charged with is one thing,, what legal grounds there are to charge the WHOLE ORGANIZATION is a totally different animal.


Perhaps you missed the part about the case having already been ADJUDICATED and the NBP having been FOUND GUILTY as charged by DoJ ... 'Selective understanding' seems to be a specialty ...



not as much a specialty as a desire for a BALANCE of information,, as I said, I do not know all the actual FACTS of the case. I know about the DEFAULT judgment,,but that involves requirements as well which could have later been shown not to have been met. So as I said. So far, I dont believe there is evidence enough to ASSUME this had to do with the race of the suspect(s).

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