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Topic: Anybody else tired of these Anti-war cowards?
isaac_dede's photo
Tue 07/06/10 09:28 PM
Anti-War Cowards Deface Medal of Honor Memorial

In Indianapolis, another sick act of cowardice and disrespect from the people who “support our troops:” Vandals target Canal Walk. (Hat tip: greenbear.)

Indianapolis, March 29 - Carol Helmus and her family got a big shock during their visit to the Canal Walk Tuesday afternoon, where vandals defaced public property. "We’ve been here a few times and never seen anything like this but it’s a shame, said Helmus.

Investigators believe the suspects hit the canal walls with spray paint late Monday night or early Tuesday morning. They sprayed names, symbols and even profanities against President Bush at the congressional medal of honor memorial. What’s worse is the damage to the two glass memorial panels which will cost thousands of dollars to repair.

The panels contain the names of soldiers, their rank and tour of duty. Police put up caution tape to keep people away from the broken glass.

People who are not willing to fight or support the troops are cowards, and this proves it, they will deface public property but when it's time to receive their punishment they run, just like they will run if there is ever a draft, they will let someone else fight for the freedoms they enjoy

USmale47374's photo
Tue 07/06/10 09:53 PM
What the protestors did in Indy was clearly wrong, but their cause may be just. Those of us who protested the war in Viet Nam were in the right it later turned out. Protests against our soldiers is unwarranted, but that's not necessarily true of the wars in which they're fighting. I am not, nor was I ever a coward, and I do not fear people who attempt to get their way via claiming to be patriots, nor those who practice strong-arm tactics.

wux's photo
Tue 07/06/10 10:33 PM
Edited by wux on Tue 07/06/10 10:41 PM
What do you expect? People to deface public property, call Bush an evil dictator, and (gasp) cause $2000 damage AND then to give themselves up?

Even warmongers will run more willingly than to turn themselves over to the enemy whose soldiers they killed.

And since when is war a deed of the heroes? In Afghanistan and in Iraq there are 100 dead enemy bodies to each American who dies in the war. If you ask me, a war that America wages is a war of cowards in bullet-proof vests and indestructible armoured vehicles, against the armies of patriotic foreigners. The War that America likes to fight proves them to be Cowards, because the enemies they pick fight in a turban and a robe, with outdated arms. Americans would NEVER pick a fight with the Russkies or the Chinese, Japs or England, because the Amys would know they'd get stung where the sun don't shine. Heck, America is even scared of North Korea. Amys got their buttocks shaved off in Viet Nam -- Amys learned their lesson, don't mess with "the yellow man" (Bruce Springsteen).

So Amys these days just keep waging wars on helpless peoples, who have no food, no industry, no technology, little drinking water, and hardly any guns, and all they have is a love for THEIR own country. You should at least be able to understand that.

Cowardice? Look in the mirror, my friend. Your entire nation needs to do that, the world would be a much better place if you did.

So don't tell me please that anti-war heroes are cowards. They may be, since they are also Americans, but at least they are fair, reasonable people.

Thomas3474's photo
Tue 07/06/10 10:39 PM
This is not protesting it is willingful destruction of public property.The usual suspects are the 18-25 crowd with no brains,who believe destroying public property somehow accomplishes something.

For those of us who are educated in politics we know you accomplish far more with a pen and paper then a baseball bat and a can of spray paint.They will find this person and he or she will spend many years paying back the thousands of dollars to repair this monument.Justice will be served.

heavenlyboy34's photo
Tue 07/06/10 10:46 PM
Edited by heavenlyboy34 on Tue 07/06/10 10:48 PM
"People who are not willing to fight or support the troops are cowards, and this proves it, they will deface public property but when it's time to receive their punishment they run, just like they will run if there is ever a draft, they will let someone else fight for the freedoms they enjoy"

BS. 1) associating the anti-war position with vandals is a guilt by association fallacy

2) assuming that a person who doesn't support the war is a causation fallacy-there are thousands of troops who are against the war, and it is not necessary to be a soldier to be against war (just as one doesn't have to be a republican to oppose "terror")

3) you also assume that standing armies=just war, but history past and present proves otherwise ("jus ad bellum" has not been observed for decades)

You pro-terror war folk just never stop with misinformation and fallacies. slaphead rofl Keep it up, it's amusing!

wux's photo
Tue 07/06/10 10:46 PM

This is not protesting it is willingful destruction of public property.The usual suspects are the 18-25 crowd with no brains,who believe destroying public property somehow accomplishes something.

For those of us who are educated in politics we know you accomplish far more with a pen and paper then a baseball bat and a can of spray paint.They will find this person and he or she will spend many years paying back the thousands of dollars to repair this monument.Justice will be served.


I agree with you, Thomas. Also, you forgot to mention, that you can do even more damage with bullets and grenades than with a can of spray paint and with writing letters.

Do you figure America will spend many years paying back the value of lost lives of people (theirs and foreigners') and repair the suffering Amys caused? Will America pay due homage in humility and true remorse to peoples whose lives they unilaterally destroyed, even if they did not kill them, but just killing their brothers and mothers? Do you think America is willing to, or will ever be forced to spend the money and and the respect to re-establish a few entire countries' infrastructure and humane living conditions?

heavenlyboy34's photo
Tue 07/06/10 10:49 PM

What do you expect? People to deface public property, call Bush an evil dictator, and (gasp) cause $2000 damage AND then to give themselves up?

Even warmongers will run more willingly than to turn themselves over to the enemy whose soldiers they killed.

And since when is war a deed of the heroes? In Afghanistan and in Iraq there are 100 dead enemy bodies to each American who dies in the war. If you ask me, a war that America wages is a war of cowards in bullet-proof vests and indestructible armoured vehicles, against the armies of patriotic foreigners. The War that America likes to fight proves them to be Cowards, because the enemies they pick fight in a turban and a robe, with outdated arms. Americans would NEVER pick a fight with the Russkies or the Chinese, Japs or England, because the Amys would know they'd get stung where the sun don't shine. Heck, America is even scared of North Korea. Amys got their buttocks shaved off in Viet Nam -- Amys learned their lesson, don't mess with "the yellow man" (Bruce Springsteen).

So Amys these days just keep waging wars on helpless peoples, who have no food, no industry, no technology, little drinking water, and hardly any guns, and all they have is a love for THEIR own country. You should at least be able to understand that.

Cowardice? Look in the mirror, my friend. Your entire nation needs to do that, the world would be a much better place if you did.

So don't tell me please that anti-war heroes are cowards. They may be, since they are also Americans, but at least they are fair, reasonable people.


drinker

wux's photo
Tue 07/06/10 10:50 PM
Good point, HeavenlyBoy. Start with a lie, and you can never stop the lying. You need new lies constantly to cover up old lies.

The only way to stop this vicious circle is to come clean.

America does not seem to be on that track. Bush is still a free man.

It takes a real man to admit he is wrong, and it takes a nation of cowards to keep on lying, because it's easier to do than to face up to admitting that they are lying, cheating, murderous, inhumane cowards.

wux's photo
Tue 07/06/10 10:52 PM
"Anybody else tired of these Anti-war cowards? "

I am actually dead tired of the pro-war cowards, and I need to go to sleep.

Thomas3474's photo
Tue 07/06/10 10:54 PM

What do you expect? People to deface public property, call Bush an evil dictator, and (gasp) cause $2000 damage AND then to give themselves up?

Even warmongers will run more willingly than to turn themselves over to the enemy whose soldiers they killed.

And since when is war a deed of the heroes? In Afghanistan and in Iraq there are 100 dead enemy bodies to each American who dies in the war. If you ask me, a war that America wages is a war of cowards in bullet-proof vests and indestructible armoured vehicles, against the armies of patriotic foreigners. The War that America likes to fight proves them to be Cowards, because the enemies they pick fight in a turban and a robe, with outdated arms. Americans would NEVER pick a fight with the Russkies or the Chinese, because the Amys would know they'd get stung where the sun don't shine. Amys just keep waging wars on helpless people.

Your kind makes me want to throw up. Cowardice? Look in the mirror, my friend.

So don't tell me please that anti-war heroes are cowards. They may be, since they are also Americans, but at least they are fair, reasonable people.



laugh That's very funny!America will pick a fight with anyone who threatens them no matter who they are.Russia's military is broke and 30 years outdated.I doubt if half of it's equipment is operational.If you would do a little history you will find that America has been to War with nearly every country you can think of at one time or another.

You are talking about cowards?A terrorist using a dead boy to plant bombs in is honorable?How about the shoot,drop gun and walk away tactic they use?No uniforms,using human shields,wearing hoods.They are some of the most gutless cowards the world has ever seen.They are not respected by any country in the World including their own.

As far as 100 dead to 1 American.All that is telling you is that they suck at fighting.

Patriotic foreigners???Wow thats a hot one!!!More like blood thristy savages that will kill anyone in their way including their own family.

Concerning your anti war heros.They are not honorable,respected,or productive.History does not care about them and their legacy will not be remembered.

msharmony's photo
Tue 07/06/10 10:59 PM
wow

Thomas3474's photo
Tue 07/06/10 11:09 PM


This is not protesting it is willingful destruction of public property.The usual suspects are the 18-25 crowd with no brains,who believe destroying public property somehow accomplishes something.

For those of us who are educated in politics we know you accomplish far more with a pen and paper then a baseball bat and a can of spray paint.They will find this person and he or she will spend many years paying back the thousands of dollars to repair this monument.Justice will be served.


I agree with you, Thomas. Also, you forgot to mention, that you can do even more damage with bullets and grenades than with a can of spray paint and with writing letters.

Do you figure America will spend many years paying back the value of lost lives of people (theirs and foreigners') and repair the suffering Amys caused? Will America pay due homage in humility and true remorse to peoples whose lives they unilaterally destroyed, even if they did not kill them, but just killing their brothers and mothers? Do you think America is willing to, or will ever be forced to spend the money and and the respect to re-establish a few entire countries' infrastructure and humane living conditions?



I suppose if you are going to fly airplanes into buildings and wage War with America then the blood on the hands of those killed is from your own actions.I know if I was living in Iraq and had a neutral view on the War I would have to think back why America was there in the first place and why they continue to be there.The body count keeps going up every day because those responsible for this War refuse to stop terrorism in Iraq and Afghanistan.If the terrorist simply give up and surrender the loss of life will stop.

The damage to innocent civilians,buildings,and loss of life by the United states military is pale in comparison to the daily terrorist actions around the world.Every day we read about how 50-100 people were blown up by terrorist bombs.And just because a civilian died does that mean they were innocent?I'm sure 99% of those innocent civilians would gladly have picked up a AK 47 and shot a American in the back if they could get away with it.

My views on this War is that it is totally justified.I believe we didn't need any reason to go in there to wipe out thousands of terrorist who spread death and destruction around the world and keep women in slaverly.If I was the President I would have carpet bombed Iraq,Iran,Pakistan,and Afghanistan from border to border like they did in World war 2.

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Tue 07/06/10 11:14 PM


What do you expect? People to deface public property, call Bush an evil dictator, and (gasp) cause $2000 damage AND then to give themselves up?

Even warmongers will run more willingly than to turn themselves over to the enemy whose soldiers they killed.

And since when is war a deed of the heroes? In Afghanistan and in Iraq there are 100 dead enemy bodies to each American who dies in the war. If you ask me, a war that America wages is a war of cowards in bullet-proof vests and indestructible armoured vehicles, against the armies of patriotic foreigners. The War that America likes to fight proves them to be Cowards, because the enemies they pick fight in a turban and a robe, with outdated arms. Americans would NEVER pick a fight with the Russkies or the Chinese, because the Amys would know they'd get stung where the sun don't shine. Amys just keep waging wars on helpless people.

Your kind makes me want to throw up. Cowardice? Look in the mirror, my friend.

So don't tell me please that anti-war heroes are cowards. They may be, since they are also Americans, but at least they are fair, reasonable people.



laugh That's very funny!America will pick a fight with anyone who threatens them no matter who they are.Russia's military is broke and 30 years outdated.I doubt if half of it's equipment is operational.If you would do a little history you will find that America has been to War with nearly every country you can think of at one time or another.

You are talking about cowards?A terrorist using a dead boy to plant bombs in is honorable?How about the shoot,drop gun and walk away tactic they use?No uniforms,using human shields,wearing hoods.They are some of the most gutless cowards the world has ever seen.They are not respected by any country in the World including their own.

As far as 100 dead to 1 American.All that is telling you is that they suck at fighting.

Patriotic foreigners???Wow thats a hot one!!!More like blood thristy savages that will kill anyone in their way including their own family.

Concerning your anti war heros.They are not honorable,respected,or productive.History does not care about them and their legacy will not be remembered.


You think history is Hostile to anti-war figures (like Jefferson and Madison)? laugh slaphead

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Tue 07/06/10 11:21 PM


What do you expect? People to deface public property, call Bush an evil dictator, and (gasp) cause $2000 damage AND then to give themselves up?

Even warmongers will run more willingly than to turn themselves over to the enemy whose soldiers they killed.

And since when is war a deed of the heroes? In Afghanistan and in Iraq there are 100 dead enemy bodies to each American who dies in the war. If you ask me, a war that America wages is a war of cowards in bullet-proof vests and indestructible armoured vehicles, against the armies of patriotic foreigners. The War that America likes to fight proves them to be Cowards, because the enemies they pick fight in a turban and a robe, with outdated arms. Americans would NEVER pick a fight with the Russkies or the Chinese, because the Amys would know they'd get stung where the sun don't shine. Amys just keep waging wars on helpless people.

Your kind makes me want to throw up. Cowardice? Look in the mirror, my friend.

So don't tell me please that anti-war heroes are cowards. They may be, since they are also Americans, but at least they are fair, reasonable people.



laugh That's very funny!America will pick a fight with anyone who threatens them no matter who they are.Russia's military is broke and 30 years outdated.I doubt if half of it's equipment is operational.If you would do a little history you will find that America has been to War with nearly every country you can think of at one time or another.

You are talking about cowards?A terrorist using a dead boy to plant bombs in is honorable?How about the shoot,drop gun and walk away tactic they use?No uniforms,using human shields,wearing hoods.They are some of the most gutless cowards the world has ever seen.They are not respected by any country in the World including their own.

As far as 100 dead to 1 American.All that is telling you is that they suck at fighting.

Patriotic foreigners???Wow thats a hot one!!!More like blood thristy savages that will kill anyone in their way including their own family.

Concerning your anti war heros.They are not honorable,respected,or productive.History does not care about them and their legacy will not be remembered.


Well, if those Americans would actually fight instead of using drones and bombs, they would never win-Afghanistan is known as the "graveyard of Empires" for good reason. I assure you that there will be no military or political victory to be had there or in Iraq.

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Tue 07/06/10 11:29 PM



What do you expect? People to deface public property, call Bush an evil dictator, and (gasp) cause $2000 damage AND then to give themselves up?

Even warmongers will run more willingly than to turn themselves over to the enemy whose soldiers they killed.

And since when is war a deed of the heroes? In Afghanistan and in Iraq there are 100 dead enemy bodies to each American who dies in the war. If you ask me, a war that America wages is a war of cowards in bullet-proof vests and indestructible armoured vehicles, against the armies of patriotic foreigners. The War that America likes to fight proves them to be Cowards, because the enemies they pick fight in a turban and a robe, with outdated arms. Americans would NEVER pick a fight with the Russkies or the Chinese, because the Amys would know they'd get stung where the sun don't shine. Amys just keep waging wars on helpless people.

Your kind makes me want to throw up. Cowardice? Look in the mirror, my friend.

So don't tell me please that anti-war heroes are cowards. They may be, since they are also Americans, but at least they are fair, reasonable people.



laugh That's very funny!America will pick a fight with anyone who threatens them no matter who they are.Russia's military is broke and 30 years outdated.I doubt if half of it's equipment is operational.If you would do a little history you will find that America has been to War with nearly every country you can think of at one time or another.

You are talking about cowards?A terrorist using a dead boy to plant bombs in is honorable?How about the shoot,drop gun and walk away tactic they use?No uniforms,using human shields,wearing hoods.They are some of the most gutless cowards the world has ever seen.They are not respected by any country in the World including their own.

As far as 100 dead to 1 American.All that is telling you is that they suck at fighting.

Patriotic foreigners???Wow thats a hot one!!!More like blood thristy savages that will kill anyone in their way including their own family.

Concerning your anti war heros.They are not honorable,respected,or productive.History does not care about them and their legacy will not be remembered.


Well, if those Americans would actually fight instead of using drones and bombs, they would never win-Afghanistan is known as the "graveyard of Empires" for good reason. I assure you that there will be no military or political victory to be had there or in Iraq.



Have fun debating yourself.

AndyBgood's photo
Wed 07/07/10 12:06 AM
This goes hand in hand with PETA and their thing with red paint.

Lpdon's photo
Wed 07/07/10 08:03 AM

Anti-War Cowards Deface Medal of Honor Memorial

In Indianapolis, another sick act of cowardice and disrespect from the people who “support our troops:” Vandals target Canal Walk. (Hat tip: greenbear.)

Indianapolis, March 29 - Carol Helmus and her family got a big shock during their visit to the Canal Walk Tuesday afternoon, where vandals defaced public property. "We’ve been here a few times and never seen anything like this but it’s a shame, said Helmus.

Investigators believe the suspects hit the canal walls with spray paint late Monday night or early Tuesday morning. They sprayed names, symbols and even profanities against President Bush at the congressional medal of honor memorial. What’s worse is the damage to the two glass memorial panels which will cost thousands of dollars to repair.

The panels contain the names of soldiers, their rank and tour of duty. Police put up caution tape to keep people away from the broken glass.

People who are not willing to fight or support the troops are cowards, and this proves it, they will deface public property but when it's time to receive their punishment they run, just like they will run if there is ever a draft, they will let someone else fight for the freedoms they enjoy



I guarantee this had some affiliation with Cindy Sheehan and or Code Stink err Pink.

Lpdon's photo
Wed 07/07/10 08:08 AM



This is not protesting it is willingful destruction of public property.The usual suspects are the 18-25 crowd with no brains,who believe destroying public property somehow accomplishes something.

For those of us who are educated in politics we know you accomplish far more with a pen and paper then a baseball bat and a can of spray paint.They will find this person and he or she will spend many years paying back the thousands of dollars to repair this monument.Justice will be served.


I agree with you, Thomas. Also, you forgot to mention, that you can do even more damage with bullets and grenades than with a can of spray paint and with writing letters.

Do you figure America will spend many years paying back the value of lost lives of people (theirs and foreigners') and repair the suffering Amys caused? Will America pay due homage in humility and true remorse to peoples whose lives they unilaterally destroyed, even if they did not kill them, but just killing their brothers and mothers? Do you think America is willing to, or will ever be forced to spend the money and and the respect to re-establish a few entire countries' infrastructure and humane living conditions?



I suppose if you are going to fly airplanes into buildings and wage War with America then the blood on the hands of those killed is from your own actions.I know if I was living in Iraq and had a neutral view on the War I would have to think back why America was there in the first place and why they continue to be there.The body count keeps going up every day because those responsible for this War refuse to stop terrorism in Iraq and Afghanistan.If the terrorist simply give up and surrender the loss of life will stop.

The damage to innocent civilians,buildings,and loss of life by the United states military is pale in comparison to the daily terrorist actions around the world.Every day we read about how 50-100 people were blown up by terrorist bombs.And just because a civilian died does that mean they were innocent?I'm sure 99% of those innocent civilians would gladly have picked up a AK 47 and shot a American in the back if they could get away with it.

My views on this War is that it is totally justified.I believe we didn't need any reason to go in there to wipe out thousands of terrorist who spread death and destruction around the world and keep women in slaverly.If I was the President I would have carpet bombed Iraq,Iran,Pakistan,and Afghanistan from border to border like they did in World war 2.



That was beautiful, but your left out N. Korea. tears

Lpdon's photo
Wed 07/07/10 08:10 AM



What do you expect? People to deface public property, call Bush an evil dictator, and (gasp) cause $2000 damage AND then to give themselves up?

Even warmongers will run more willingly than to turn themselves over to the enemy whose soldiers they killed.

And since when is war a deed of the heroes? In Afghanistan and in Iraq there are 100 dead enemy bodies to each American who dies in the war. If you ask me, a war that America wages is a war of cowards in bullet-proof vests and indestructible armoured vehicles, against the armies of patriotic foreigners. The War that America likes to fight proves them to be Cowards, because the enemies they pick fight in a turban and a robe, with outdated arms. Americans would NEVER pick a fight with the Russkies or the Chinese, because the Amys would know they'd get stung where the sun don't shine. Amys just keep waging wars on helpless people.

Your kind makes me want to throw up. Cowardice? Look in the mirror, my friend.

So don't tell me please that anti-war heroes are cowards. They may be, since they are also Americans, but at least they are fair, reasonable people.



laugh That's very funny!America will pick a fight with anyone who threatens them no matter who they are.Russia's military is broke and 30 years outdated.I doubt if half of it's equipment is operational.If you would do a little history you will find that America has been to War with nearly every country you can think of at one time or another.

You are talking about cowards?A terrorist using a dead boy to plant bombs in is honorable?How about the shoot,drop gun and walk away tactic they use?No uniforms,using human shields,wearing hoods.They are some of the most gutless cowards the world has ever seen.They are not respected by any country in the World including their own.

As far as 100 dead to 1 American.All that is telling you is that they suck at fighting.

Patriotic foreigners???Wow thats a hot one!!!More like blood thristy savages that will kill anyone in their way including their own family.

Concerning your anti war heros.They are not honorable,respected,or productive.History does not care about them and their legacy will not be remembered.


Well, if those Americans would actually fight instead of using drones and bombs, they would never win-Afghanistan is known as the "graveyard of Empires" for good reason. I assure you that there will be no military or political victory to be had there or in Iraq.


Seriously? The majority of the drones are survalience only. The ones that are armed are being used in Pakistan and Iraq, but barely in Afganistan because of the Rules of Engagement.

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Wed 07/07/10 10:39 AM






This is not protesting it is willingful destruction of public property.The usual suspects are the 18-25 crowd with no brains,who believe destroying public property somehow accomplishes something.

For those of us who are educated in politics we know you accomplish far more with a pen and paper then a baseball bat and a can of spray paint.They will find this person and he or she will spend many years paying back the thousands of dollars to repair this monument.Justice will be served.


I agree with you, Thomas. Also, you forgot to mention, that you can do even more damage with bullets and grenades than with a can of spray paint and with writing letters.

Do you figure America will spend many years paying back the value of lost lives of people (theirs and foreigners') and repair the suffering Amys caused? Will America pay due homage in humility and true remorse to peoples whose lives they unilaterally destroyed, even if they did not kill them, but just killing their brothers and mothers? Do you think America is willing to, or will ever be forced to spend the money and and the respect to re-establish a few entire countries' infrastructure and humane living conditions?



I suppose if you are going to fly airplanes into buildings and wage War with America then the blood on the hands of those killed is from your own actions.I know if I was living in Iraq and had a neutral view on the War I would have to think back why America was there in the first place and why they continue to be there.The body count keeps going up every day because those responsible for this War refuse to stop terrorism in Iraq and Afghanistan.If the terrorist simply give up and surrender the loss of life will stop.

The damage to innocent civilians,buildings,and loss of life by the United states military is pale in comparison to the daily terrorist actions around the world.Every day we read about how 50-100 people were blown up by terrorist bombs.And just because a civilian died does that mean they were innocent?I'm sure 99% of those innocent civilians would gladly have picked up a AK 47 and shot a American in the back if they could get away with it.

My views on this War is that it is totally justified.I believe we didn't need any reason to go in there to wipe out thousands of terrorist who spread death and destruction around the world and keep women in slaverly.If I was the President I would have carpet bombed Iraq,Iran,Pakistan,and Afghanistan from border to border like they did in World war 2.












You seem to forget that we were reacting to Japan's aggressions in Manchuria and their conquest of China. Japan was stepping all over our financial interests in the west Pacific and China. We refused to appease them but the League of Nations was hot to Appease Hitler. No matter what we were all headed to war!

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