Topic: Obama: The Job Killer ...
msharmony's photo
Mon 07/05/10 01:06 PM

She says something about numbers being able to say whatever you want them to....

And completely disregards the fact that Obama's " Laser like focus " on creating jobs has done nothing but make it more and more difficult for jobs to be created.

Taxing the life out of small business owners ( which by the way provide the vast majority of jobs in this country ) is NOT a way to make them hire people.

It completely amazes me how the Lefties and Obama apologists can manage to convince themselves that what he's doing is a good thing when basic economics flat out shows how wrong and misguided his ideas about job growth are.


my post was a response to the post immediately before mine, which mentioned none of those things,,,

JustAGuy2112's photo
Mon 07/05/10 01:36 PM
My post is still relevant to yours in the fact that you posted those numbers in a response to something you saw as inaccurate or at least misleading.

Your numbers show that only 30,000 jobs were lost " one year after taking office ". Well...we all know that the government has been massaging the numbers for years to make the jobless rates look less troublesome than they actually are.

The thing is, if he had any grasp at all of basic economics, he would KNOW that raising taxes on small business will NEVER stimulate job growth.

Especially now. So how's that Harvard education working out?

Business owners know that the Bush tax cuts are set to expire and taxes are going to rise in HUGE levels.

Not knowing if Obama will actually do anything to relax the burden that is about to be put upon them, businesses are reluctant ( to put it in very mild terms ) to add ANY new payroll expenses.

It sometimes seems that Obabma's only " Laser like focus " is aimed at actually sending this country further down it's current path. It would sometimes appear that he and his cabinet and advisers actually WANT this country to become North America's version of Greece.

msharmony's photo
Mon 07/05/10 01:39 PM
Well...we all know that the government has been massaging the numbers for years to make the jobless rates look less troublesome than they actually are.....



" ... dont ya love numbers and how they can be picked and prodded to point out just about anything? '


these two posts, actually, seem to be in agreement,,,,






JustAGuy2112's photo
Mon 07/05/10 01:44 PM

Well...we all know that the government has been massaging the numbers for years to make the jobless rates look less troublesome than they actually are.....



" ... dont ya love numbers and how they can be picked and prodded to point out just about anything? '


these two posts, actually, seem to be in agreement,


That they are.

BUT....that means that you, of all people, should know better than to try using government provided statistics as a basis for any argument about how " well " Obama is doing in creating jobs.

And, judging by the numbers you DID provide, he STILL hasn't managed to " create " any jobs.

If he's as brilliant as people seem to want to think he is, then by now he should have come up with some kind of way to actually get people working rather than just being happy with stopping the bleeding.

mightymoe's photo
Mon 07/05/10 02:20 PM
Edited by mightymoe on Mon 07/05/10 02:21 PM
and unemployment percentage is higher than it has been in 26.5 years

the last time it was an oil shortage. the early 80's.. remember the lines at gas stations? could only by gas by if your license plate ended in an odd or even number? ... who was president then? reagan.

Thorb's photo
Mon 07/05/10 02:25 PM
And its primarily that ******* George Bush's and the repuklicans fault ...

basic economics tells you ... nothing the government does actually affects change for at least 1 year after the policy has been passed.


go back and study some basic economics ...

mightymoe's photo
Mon 07/05/10 02:29 PM

And its primarily that ******* George Bush's and the repuklicans fault ...

basic economics tells you ... nothing the government does actually affects change for at least 1 year after the policy has been passed.


go back and study some basic economics ...


they don't understand that, it's easier for them to blame the black folks...

msharmony's photo
Mon 07/05/10 02:43 PM


And its primarily that ******* George Bush's and the repuklicans fault ...

basic economics tells you ... nothing the government does actually affects change for at least 1 year after the policy has been passed.


go back and study some basic economics ...


they don't understand that, it's easier for them to blame the black folks...


:angel: wasn't me


no photo
Mon 07/05/10 02:49 PM


And its primarily that ******* George Bush's and the repuklicans fault ...

basic economics tells you ... nothing the government does actually affects change for at least 1 year after the policy has been passed.


go back and study some basic economics ...


they don't understand that, it's easier for them to blame the black folks...


There we go ... and now YOU're playing the 'race card' too ... congratulations.

JustAGuy2112's photo
Mon 07/05/10 02:50 PM



And its primarily that ******* George Bush's and the repuklicans fault ...

basic economics tells you ... nothing the government does actually affects change for at least 1 year after the policy has been passed.


go back and study some basic economics ...


they don't understand that, it's easier for them to blame the black folks...


There we go ... and now YOU're playing the 'race card' too ... congratulations.


No kidding.

That certainly didn't take long.

JustAGuy2112's photo
Mon 07/05/10 02:52 PM

and unemployment percentage is higher than it has been in 26.5 years

the last time it was an oil shortage. the early 80's.. remember the lines at gas stations? could only by gas by if your license plate ended in an odd or even number? ... who was president then? reagan.


The gas lines were in the 70's.slaphead

Carter was President.slaphead slaphead

Try to keep up.whoa

Or at least have accurate information when you try to point out how bad the Republicans are.

msharmony's photo
Mon 07/05/10 02:53 PM
well, back on the topic of how NUMBERS can show just about anything,,,,

for your consideration,,,regarding racism and tea party

http://www.newsweek.com/blogs/the-gaggle/2010/04/09/new-poll-finds-tea-partiers-have-more-racist-attitudes.html

JustAGuy2112's photo
Mon 07/05/10 02:57 PM

And its primarily that ******* George Bush's and the repuklicans fault ...

basic economics tells you ... nothing the government does actually affects change for at least 1 year after the policy has been passed.


go back and study some basic economics ...


Psst....

Just in case you have gotten lost in time at some point...

It's been a year and a half now.

That would mean that your post actually proved my point for me.

Time for Obama to pull up the big boy pants and start taking responsibility for his economic policies not working.

And it's time for the rest of you to stop blaming someone who hasn't been in office for WELL OVER a year and realize that your man Obama is not doing all that well.

Hey....by the way....

The " stimulus " that Obama forced through ( per another thread in these forums ) within a month or so of getting elected....

How's THAT working out for you??

Have you seen all the jobs it's created??

Oh wait. It hasn't created any. It hasn't " saved " any either. No matter how much you all would like to believe it has.

JustAGuy2112's photo
Mon 07/05/10 03:02 PM


And its primarily that ******* George Bush's and the repuklicans fault ...

basic economics tells you ... nothing the government does actually affects change for at least 1 year after the policy has been passed.


go back and study some basic economics ...


they don't understand that, it's easier for them to blame the black folks...


That's a pathetic, weak, and absurd statement.

I wouldn't give a rat's azz if the dude was PURPLE. He ISN'T....LEADING....THIS....COUNTRY...IN....THE...RIGHT....DIRECTION.

If it had been McCain and the country was in the same shape it is now...I would be criticizing him too.

I honestly don't care what color someone is. They can either do the job, or they can't.

So far, Obama can't.

The fact that is he black is completely irrelevant.

Isn't it funny how only the Liberals among us are the ones who keep bringing that up??

Y'all need to find another crutch. That one is getting pretty worn out.

Redykeulous's photo
Mon 07/05/10 03:16 PM

She says something about numbers being able to say whatever you want them to....

And completely disregards the fact that Obama's " Laser like focus " on creating jobs has done nothing but make it more and more difficult for jobs to be created.

Taxing the life out of small business owners ( which by the way provide the vast majority of jobs in this country ) is NOT a way to make them hire people.

It completely amazes me how the Lefties and Obama apologists can manage to convince themselves that what he's doing is a good thing when basic economics flat out shows how wrong and misguided his ideas about job growth are.


Passing the healthcare bill could likely be a big step in long-term job creations - as I've stated in a thread I just added a short time ago.

There are also a lot of opportunites for job creation IF we can get environmental issues on the top burner.

While many of the new jobs will require minimally skilled labor - I expect a majority of them to have more specific requirements (education wise). That's why, there has been such an emphasis by this administration toward education.




Redykeulous's photo
Mon 07/05/10 03:31 PM



And its primarily that ******* George Bush's and the repuklicans fault ...

basic economics tells you ... nothing the government does actually affects change for at least 1 year after the policy has been passed.


go back and study some basic economics ...


they don't understand that, it's easier for them to blame the black folks...


That's a pathetic, weak, and absurd statement.

I wouldn't give a rat's azz if the dude was PURPLE. He ISN'T....LEADING....THIS....COUNTRY...IN....THE...RIGHT....DIRECTION.

If it had been McCain and the country was in the same shape it is now...I would be criticizing him too.

I honestly don't care what color someone is. They can either do the job, or they can't.

So far, Obama can't.

The fact that is he black is completely irrelevant.

Isn't it funny how only the Liberals among us are the ones who keep bringing that up??

Y'all need to find another crutch. That one is getting pretty worn out.



What Direction do you think we should be LED into and how would you propose we take action to get there?

If you want to retire in say 4 years - when it gets to be 4 years from now do you just retire. Is that all it too, setting a date?

What ground work is required to accomplish that one small goal?

You can't just stop 50, 20 million pound trains going 150 miles an hour so you can change direction because you no longer happy with where you're headed.

You have an opinion so you are thinking about "something" but voicing opinions without any constructive criticisms offering solutions or alternatives is takes as much mindless effort as watching TV.

So please, back-up your opinion with your reasoning - I really want to hear it. How else can we learn anything if all we do is share obsurdities. How can we find a common path if we don't know what is behind opinions. Keep your mind sharp, you may yet need it.


InvictusV's photo
Mon 07/05/10 03:44 PM

And its primarily that ******* George Bush's and the repuklicans fault ...

basic economics tells you ... nothing the government does actually affects change for at least 1 year after the policy has been passed.


go back and study some basic economics ...


Well... the democrats have controlled congress since 2007. Its 2010, so I suggest you rethink your theory because it doesn't hold very much water.

mightymoe's photo
Mon 07/05/10 03:45 PM



And its primarily that ******* George Bush's and the repuklicans fault ...

basic economics tells you ... nothing the government does actually affects change for at least 1 year after the policy has been passed.


go back and study some basic economics ...


they don't understand that, it's easier for them to blame the black folks...


There we go ... and now YOU're playing the 'race card' too ... congratulations.
i guess... and you haven't?

InvictusV's photo
Mon 07/05/10 03:56 PM




And its primarily that ******* George Bush's and the repuklicans fault ...

basic economics tells you ... nothing the government does actually affects change for at least 1 year after the policy has been passed.


go back and study some basic economics ...


they don't understand that, it's easier for them to blame the black folks...


There we go ... and now YOU're playing the 'race card' too ... congratulations.
i guess... and you haven't?


Can you explain how debating economic policy has anything to do with race..

mightymoe's photo
Mon 07/05/10 04:03 PM
you can read as well as i can, so i'm not getting into it with ya... if you don;t think some of these posts aren't based on race, then so be it, think what you want, cause i sure will.