Its ALL an individual preference really.
SOME can (guys and gals) sit around and wait many weeks for ONE
person to call and ask them again..
SOME others want to have them call soon, and be firm with a real meeting with them. (like your words here)
SOME still, might have some TRY and then be told that THEY couldn't meet THEM because they already made other plans?
But let me say this about guys my age here...WE do tend to be a little shy to just straight out MAKE a SET TIME,,we like to feel THEM OUT on if their really interested enough that THEY will show-up
because of having been through trying to do that and have THEM not show up at all or call saying that?
So you become cautious about their integrity of really meeting you.
If a person is relaxed and really wanting to meet someone, then it should be a simple thing to have happen,,really. And IF NOT, then maybe its a blessing to find out NOW that their a bit flaky about making any firm agreements with someone they are interested in?
But I still think its mostly just because the above here men you speak of,,were just indecisive individuals?? Or ones who really just TALK about IT,,but don't really want to make a set date to do that...
I can just say that I HOPE you have BETTER GUYS call on ya in the future,,wink,,and just know that MOST have balls,,THEY just don't know how or IF,,they want to USE THEM.....

sorry, i don't drink coffee...

I always always always just put the ball in their court. hand them my card and say call if you want. I'm too just over it to play games with people.

I don't like games either, but I would not call a man who told me that. I want him to at least show some interest and make an effort.

Boy after reading some of these posts I got to say some of you women have your heads up your... well you know where the sun does not shine. Same for you guys out there! (just being fair!)


First of all this is the year 2010 not 1810, not 1910, not 1010! If a woman does not speak her mind to me I am not reading it. I am not a mind reader. I am sick of all the half azzed signals women like to throw around. We are supposed to make the first move and read your little hints? COME ON! Who do you think you are kidding? US men have to show interest? Hell, I have been made to jump through so many god damn hoops I feel like a poodle short of the curly fur all over my body! And then I get told she is dating another guy?

I gave up making the first move. I got tired of the double standards and "I just want to be friends" crap I get hit with becasue when I get sexually aggressive suddenly the woman circling me with her tail over her back suddenly begins dragging it tight between her (booty, booty, booty, booty, booty) butt cheeks. Women want aggressive men? Sell it somewhere else! Damn near every single time I get aggressive I suddenly am getting a ruler across my knuckles.

I am not playing the "Game" any more by everyone else's rules. Women, Speak up or fuque off! Period. Quit living in the past and quit holding us men to an OLD yard stick! Nobody likes Hypocrites and that is part of the reason so many relationships fail! People are too busy with the games they play and forget what living is all about!

Once upon a time I was a nice guy. Now I am a nice guy with a turtle shell!



Also SHAME ON MEN WHO SUCK UP TO THIS BS! GROW A BACKBONE!

Life is too short for this BS!

Actually, I am aggressive enough to give the signal and I like an aggressive man only in one area and that is after he has been given the go ahead........LMAO.......but I get what you mean...

Thank you! You are an example of why generalization is wrong. So many women toss out the Green light only to change their mind suddenly!

UTTER BS!


You rock on the other hand!

Rock On Seakolony!

i like kame' he's pretty cool... likes all women and he's goku's teacher... good choice

andy is right tho, you women don't have a monopoly in insecurities... we have them too, and you should be more vocal in what you want... men get tired of guessing all the time, and usually guess wrong... it gets real old, real fast... but buttons, they should have called you too, and it's their mistake they didn't... but don't put all men in the same category, everyone gets frustrated at things... just hang in there and things will work themselves out.

Do I have to live up to what an anonymous woman expects of me?

Nope,

I don't have to live up to what an anonymous woman expects of me.


Really, um to the initiator of this forum, if you get the same reaction many times, it's most likely something that comes from you.

No use generalising.

And no where is it a womans place to tell a man to grow some balls. No one is at your service.

Imagine how much men have to claim on this issue. If each time a woman stopped writing all of a sudden we started resenting it?

But please, I acknowledge your message here, thanks for sharing.

I wouldnt really classify him as being a man

Ball-less men?

I think you have just run into some nuts.

Bitter, party of one! How's that attitude working out for you? Both men and women need to get over the idea that it's one or the other's job to show interest. If you're interested, let the other person know.

And it's certainly not just women who "toss out the green light" only to change their minds.

I saw her give examples, not saying all men were like that. And you're saying it's her fault for the way they acted?

i definitely agree with this as well... for i have let them know this in these accounts.. now rather u meet for a first time doesnt mean you will have "interest in more than friends" in one date lol..but to even go meet there has to be some interest there or why bother?.. in all accounts i know i have let them know that.. fyi..and i do agree with you.. now why stop making a first move? that i do not understand.. it had nothing to do with a first move.. sometimes im not sure really who makes the first move... who cares? point is if you make a date.. and dont want to show up give a call.. or if your not interested why linger it on for 2 months and 2 hours a day chatting? then when the day comes to meet.. disappear? im wondering why ask someone 2 days prior to meet and just small talk the next two days one email or something that is just like any other email or phone conversation and poof?

The sad truth is, many men are afraid of women. A few hundred years ago, the Catholic church would put outspoken intelligent women to death as heretics.

well you dont know me either...

again you dont know me... and this thread was made again ill say.. to help out guys when they dont get a date perhaps they are doing these things as well? that is all this thread was about...