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Edited by
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so what was the freewill god gave everyone? do what i say or burn in hell? sounds like freewill to me... hitler said that too, didn't he? or something like it. do what i say or die... i guess we have the freewill do it or die, burn in hell... why did god tell them not to eat it? just because he was bored? eating an apple releases all evil? there are cartoons on tv that have a better plot that that, they at least make sense. that is not "Free Will" that is called making a threat or making a choice under duress ...."Free Will" is the non-interference of a divine entity in order to not influence choice ...this is why Jesus presence neutralized any aspect of Christians claiming to have "Free WIll" because Jesus is a direct influence from a Divine entity and therefore their choice has been compromised But they still have the choice....... that is ALL free will is. The ability to make your own choices. |
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Edited by
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so what was the freewill god gave everyone? do what i say or burn in hell? sounds like freewill to me... hitler said that too, didn't he? or something like it. do what i say or die... i guess we have the freewill do it or die, burn in hell... why did god tell them not to eat it? just because he was bored? eating an apple releases all evil? there are cartoons on tv that have a better plot that that, they at least make sense. that is not "Free Will" that is called making a threat or making a choice under duress ...."Free Will" is the non-interference of a divine entity in order to not influence choice ...this is why Jesus presence neutralized any aspect of Christians claiming to have "Free WIll" because Jesus is a direct influence from a Divine entity and therefore their choice has been compromised But they still have the choice....... that is ALL free will is. The ability to make your own choices. Cowboy...is accepting Jesus the only way one can get into Heaven ..or are there other choices one can make that will get them into Heaven |
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so what was the freewill god gave everyone? do what i say or burn in hell? sounds like freewill to me... hitler said that too, didn't he? or something like it. do what i say or die... i guess we have the freewill do it or die, burn in hell... why did god tell them not to eat it? just because he was bored? eating an apple releases all evil? there are cartoons on tv that have a better plot that that, they at least make sense. that is not "Free Will" that is called making a threat or making a choice under duress ...."Free Will" is the non-interference of a divine entity in order to not influence choice ...this is why Jesus presence neutralized any aspect of Christians claiming to have "Free WIll" because Jesus is a direct influence from a Divine entity and therefore their choice has been compromised But they still have the choice....... that is ALL free will is. The ability to make your own choices. Cowboy...is accepting Jesus the only way one can get into Heaven ..or are there other choices one can make that will get them into Heaven Accepting Jesus christ is the only way to enter into heaven. Jesus said specifically no one gets to the father but through him. You can use your free will to either follow him or not. |
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What you decide to do will tell us
What kind of "Moral Atheist" you really are But thats the thing Sparrows, Im an atheist, according to a post done by you, atheists have no morals, always creating evil and doing general shenanigans like that. God didnt want man knowledgeable, he wanted man dumb and ignorant and only to know what he wanted man to know, thats why after eating of the tree of knowledge to quench the "hunger" for knowledge that man was banished from eden. Do I really need to retract what I said? Of course not, your opinion is a joke, and as far as I am concerned, so is your book of fables. Id be violating my principles by treating you as more than a joke. Self-righteousness is very unbecoming, thats why I'd rather be an atheist than a christian. What kind of an idiot convinces himself and his fellow man they are criminals since the moment they are born? |
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so what was the freewill god gave everyone? do what i say or burn in hell? sounds like freewill to me... hitler said that too, didn't he? or something like it. do what i say or die... i guess we have the freewill do it or die, burn in hell... why did god tell them not to eat it? just because he was bored? eating an apple releases all evil? there are cartoons on tv that have a better plot that that, they at least make sense. that is not "Free Will" that is called making a threat or making a choice under duress ...."Free Will" is the non-interference of a divine entity in order to not influence choice ...this is why Jesus presence neutralized any aspect of Christians claiming to have "Free WIll" because Jesus is a direct influence from a Divine entity and therefore their choice has been compromised But they still have the choice....... that is ALL free will is. The ability to make your own choices. Cowboy...is accepting Jesus the only way one can get into Heaven ..or are there other choices one can make that will get them into Heaven Accepting Jesus christ is the only way to enter into heaven. Jesus said specifically no one gets to the father but through him. You can use your free will to either follow him or not. so all jews, muslims and buddists are not going to heaven? no matter how devoted they are? |
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so what was the freewill god gave everyone? do what i say or burn in hell? sounds like freewill to me... hitler said that too, didn't he? or something like it. do what i say or die... i guess we have the freewill do it or die, burn in hell... why did god tell them not to eat it? just because he was bored? eating an apple releases all evil? there are cartoons on tv that have a better plot that that, they at least make sense. that is not "Free Will" that is called making a threat or making a choice under duress ...."Free Will" is the non-interference of a divine entity in order to not influence choice ...this is why Jesus presence neutralized any aspect of Christians claiming to have "Free WIll" because Jesus is a direct influence from a Divine entity and therefore their choice has been compromised But they still have the choice....... that is ALL free will is. The ability to make your own choices. Cowboy...is accepting Jesus the only way one can get into Heaven ..or are there other choices one can make that will get them into Heaven Accepting Jesus christ is the only way to enter into heaven. Jesus said specifically no one gets to the father but through him. You can use your free will to either follow him or not. so all jews, muslims and buddists are not going to heaven? no matter how devoted they are? Exact verse of the one i was refering to John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me |
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But they still have the choice....... that is ALL free will is. The ability to make your own choices. Exact verse of the one i was refering to John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me so no matter how faithful anyone is in their own religion, god won't accept them? is that what your saying? |
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Edited by
CowboyGH
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Tue 06/29/10 08:33 PM
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But they still have the choice....... that is ALL free will is. The ability to make your own choices. Exact verse of the one i was refering to John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me so no matter how faithful anyone is in their own religion, god won't accept them? is that what your saying? Pretty much. Cause the only way to God is by Jesus Christ. Jesus is our one and only savior. |
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so what was the freewill god gave everyone? do what i say or burn in hell? sounds like freewill to me... hitler said that too, didn't he? or something like it. do what i say or die... i guess we have the freewill do it or die, burn in hell... why did god tell them not to eat it? just because he was bored? eating an apple releases all evil? there are cartoons on tv that have a better plot that that, they at least make sense. that is not "Free Will" that is called making a threat or making a choice under duress ...."Free Will" is the non-interference of a divine entity in order to not influence choice ...this is why Jesus presence neutralized any aspect of Christians claiming to have "Free WIll" because Jesus is a direct influence from a Divine entity and therefore their choice has been compromised But they still have the choice....... that is ALL free will is. The ability to make your own choices. Cowboy...is accepting Jesus the only way one can get into Heaven ..or are there other choices one can make that will get them into Heaven Accepting Jesus christ is the only way to enter into heaven. Jesus said specifically no one gets to the father but through him. You can use your free will to either follow him or not. so now you understand why no Christian have "Free Will" ... |
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so what was the freewill god gave everyone? do what i say or burn in hell? sounds like freewill to me... hitler said that too, didn't he? or something like it. do what i say or die... i guess we have the freewill do it or die, burn in hell... why did god tell them not to eat it? just because he was bored? eating an apple releases all evil? there are cartoons on tv that have a better plot that that, they at least make sense. that is not "Free Will" that is called making a threat or making a choice under duress ...."Free Will" is the non-interference of a divine entity in order to not influence choice ...this is why Jesus presence neutralized any aspect of Christians claiming to have "Free WIll" because Jesus is a direct influence from a Divine entity and therefore their choice has been compromised But they still have the choice....... that is ALL free will is. The ability to make your own choices. Cowboy...is accepting Jesus the only way one can get into Heaven ..or are there other choices one can make that will get them into Heaven Accepting Jesus christ is the only way to enter into heaven. Jesus said specifically no one gets to the father but through him. You can use your free will to either follow him or not. so now you understand why no Christian have "Free Will" ... How did you get that from what i said in any way at all? We all have the free will to choose to follow Jesus or not. We are not FORCED to do anything, we have the ability to do or not to do. |
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How did you get that from what i said in any way at all? We all have the free will to choose to follow Jesus or not. We are not FORCED to do anything, we have the ability to do or not to do. if you want to get into Heaven....you are forced to accept Jesus ...this is direct influence from a supposed divine entity...that takes away any Christian's supposed "Free Will" |
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How did you get that from what i said in any way at all? We all have the free will to choose to follow Jesus or not. We are not FORCED to do anything, we have the ability to do or not to do. if you want to get into Heaven....you are forced to accept Jesus ...this is direct influence from a supposed divine entity...that takes away any Christian's supposed "Free Will" No you're not forced. No one can ever FORCE you to anything. nottice "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life" If you want to get from spot A to spot B you have to take the pathWAY to spot B. There are no side roads, no ally ways, and no yards to cut through. If you don't want to go from spot A to spot B you can use your free will not to, no one is forcing you. Because if you were being forced, EVERYONE would make it to spot B because they would have been forced. It is a choice my friend, a choice. |
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No you're not forced. No one can ever FORCE you to anything. nottice "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life" perhaps my point can be better understood by asking this one question...do Christians have the "Free Will" to get into Heaven by any other means besides Jesus? |
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Its like this. One guy has another guy sitting in a chair, and the guy standing has a taser. He says to the man that is sitting, "you have the free will to stand up but if you do then im gonna shock the s**t outta you." The man can sit and stay comfortably or can get up and get the s**t tased outta him. Its the same concept with free will according to god. You can sit down and obey or you can get up and get the s**t burned outta you in hell.
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No you're not forced. No one can ever FORCE you to anything. nottice "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life" perhaps my point can be better understood by asking this one question...do Christians have the "Free Will" to get into Heaven by any other means besides Jesus? Heaven isn't an action and or something you can do or place you can go to in that sence. Heaven is a reward for how we lived our lives. Your children have free will to listen or not listen to the parents. Do the parents reward the child when the didn't obey the parents? |
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No you're not forced. No one can ever FORCE you to anything. nottice "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life" perhaps my point can be better understood by asking this one question...do Christians have the "Free Will" to get into Heaven by any other means besides Jesus? Heaven isn't an action and or something you can do or place you can go to in that sence. Heaven is a reward for how we lived our lives. Your children have free will to listen or not listen to the parents. Do the parents reward the child when the didn't obey the parents? |
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Its like this. One guy has another guy sitting in a chair, and the guy standing has a taser. He says to the man that is sitting, "you have the free will to stand up but if you do then im gonna shock the s**t outta you." The man can sit and stay comfortably or can get up and get the s**t tased outta him. Its the same concept with free will according to god. You can sit down and obey or you can get up and get the s**t burned outta you in hell. and they love the guy that use the taser |
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No you're not forced. No one can ever FORCE you to anything. nottice "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life" perhaps my point can be better understood by asking this one question...do Christians have the "Free Will" to get into Heaven by any other means besides Jesus? Heaven isn't an action and or something you can do or place you can go to in that sence. Heaven is a reward for how we lived our lives. Your children have free will to listen or not listen to the parents. Do the parents reward the child when the didn't obey the parents? Jesus may be the only way for a Christian to get to Heaven and this is why Christians have no "Free Will" .....for those that choose not to be Christian God has provided other ways for them to enter Heaven |
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No you're not forced. No one can ever FORCE you to anything. nottice "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life" perhaps my point can be better understood by asking this one question...do Christians have the "Free Will" to get into Heaven by any other means besides Jesus? Heaven isn't an action and or something you can do or place you can go to in that sence. Heaven is a reward for how we lived our lives. Your children have free will to listen or not listen to the parents. Do the parents reward the child when the didn't obey the parents? Jesus may be the only way for a Christian to get to Heaven and this is why Christians have no "Free Will" .....for those that choose not to be Christian God has provided other ways for them to enter Heaven There is but one God, one heaven, and one way. |
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No you're not forced. No one can ever FORCE you to anything. nottice "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life" perhaps my point can be better understood by asking this one question...do Christians have the "Free Will" to get into Heaven by any other means besides Jesus? Heaven isn't an action and or something you can do or place you can go to in that sence. Heaven is a reward for how we lived our lives. Your children have free will to listen or not listen to the parents. Do the parents reward the child when the didn't obey the parents? Jesus may be the only way for a Christian to get to Heaven and this is why Christians have no "Free Will" .....for those that choose not to be Christian God has provided other ways for them to enter Heaven There is but one God, one heaven, and one way. do God not go by many names |
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