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OH! little things like....spitting blood for a few months.....not being able to breath and having to sit up to do so......trying to sleep sitting up laying on the back of a dinette chair gasping for air....being burning hot one second and freezing cold a few seconds later....then it starts getting bad from their on. (How my father died!) Yep! and he was one who knew too much and would never get cancer......he was too smart and knew what his body was doing healthwise. He did not have much trouble with treatments......it killed him first! Remember this...."The cigarette smokes, not you......you are only the sucker!" for the money machine called the tobacco industry. Sorry about your Daddy. I believe that is a personal choice and none of your damn business.........  Only by new information can one make a new choice. I can give proof of effects to the public the same as any. With the restraining of information all things stop cold for lack of the new choices. I did not comdem you for smoking or judge you. The sucker line is more a truth in jest. IS your choice your right... but who pays the bills and who has to deal with the death and cost there of. Only after you pay up ahead for all and make right the sorrows you put others to, do you OWN THE RIGHT OF CHOICE. But like most you will do as you will and leave others to clean your mess. Only you know if you are doing so or not. Save it brother I don't give a chit........... I leave you to your way! let's talk smack about donuts now 
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I never understood why so many people complain about the smoker. I tell you what. If you can think of a better way to raise 12 billion dollars (Fed only) in annual tax revenue with having public outcry I'd like to hear it. Tobacco taxes are the only taxes that can be raised without any objection from the public at large. Raise your income tax? How about taking more from your paycheck every week? Add a tax to doughnuts? Not going to happen. We won't even vote in favor of an increased sales tax. Most tobacco taxes go to help children too. It's the main funder of the last child health care bill. So stop being hypocritical towards the smoker. You want him or her to pay for all of these little extras that we have, and then you don't want them to actually use the items they purchase in order to fund them. I'm not even going to talk about sending thousands of farmers and other workers in the tobacco belt to the unemployment line, that obviously escapes most peoples minds. Then, I'll also add that there is a historical significance to the plant. Some native tribes actually place a spirital value on the plant. On a more personal note, I quit smoking two years ago the same way I started, with a conscious choice. I've watched several family members die of cancer, and not all smoked. I still think that there is absolutely nothing wrong with a person living their life with a few vices, but I also expect there to be some good manners involved as well. As far as I can tell, the modern smoker is much more polite about his/her habit than former generations and maybe it's time the rest of us lightened up a bit. 
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I never understood why so many people complain about the smoker. I tell you what. If you can think of a better way to raise 12 billion dollars (Fed only) in annual tax revenue with having public outcry I'd like to hear it. Tobacco taxes are the only taxes that can be raised without any objection from the public at large. Raise your income tax? How about taking more from your paycheck every week? Add a tax to doughnuts? Not going to happen. We won't even vote in favor of an increased sales tax. Most tobacco taxes go to help children too. It's the main funder of the last child health care bill. So stop being hypocritical towards the smoker. You want him or her to pay for all of these little extras that we have, and then you don't want them to actually use the items they purchase in order to fund them. I'm not even going to talk about sending thousands of farmers and other workers in the tobacco belt to the unemployment line, that obviously escapes most peoples minds. Then, I'll also add that there is a historical significance to the plant. Some native tribes actually place a spirital value on the plant. On a more personal note, I quit smoking two years ago the same way I started, with a conscious choice. I've watched several family members die of cancer, and not all smoked. I still think that there is absolutely nothing wrong with a person living their life with a few vices, but I also expect there to be some good manners involved as well. As far as I can tell, the modern smoker is much more polite about his/her habit than former generations and maybe it's time the rest of us lightened up a bit. Well this thread was started in the middle of the night during one of my insomniac episodes that I have now and then...really the worst thing is the standing in the cold to smoke since I don't smoke inside. Which is why I quoted RoamingO. The very valid points that he made. I took my oldest son to the doctor when he was 4 and was told he was getting bronchitis because of my smoking in the house. That was 22 years ago and I haven't smoked in the house since. I don't smoke in my car if my boys are with me. I keep a butt container by my smoking area in the back yard, I'll move away from my neighbors if their outside even if I'm in my own yard and I'll put it out if one is around and it's really bothering them. I also use an electronic cigarette in some places. So I agree that we are much more conscious of our habit. I grew up in a house full of adults smoking, we could smoke on trains, buses, airplanes, in restaurants... so I feel we have accommodated the nonsmoker well. Many places you can't even smoke in a bar now, which I don't really care about since I don't go to bars...but there was a time. Here in Utah we can't smoke in public parks, near schools, churches, etc. It's to the point that the only place we can smoke is in own homes and cars. So yeah... it's our choice, our addiction. If it gets to the point where it's not allowed near anyone who doesn't like it..we'll have to go for a ride around the block. There's always going to be someone who does something ya don't like. We need to move into tolerance. I personally can't stand being around obnoxious drunks, or the couple next door that constantly fight and scream at each other. So I turn my music up. Not really my place to go tell them their fighting is bothering me...so none should be telling me my addiction is bothering them and trying to educate me. I'm a grown up.... |
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I never understood why so many people complain about the smoker. I tell you what. If you can think of a better way to raise 12 billion dollars (Fed only) in annual tax revenue with having public outcry I'd like to hear it. Tobacco taxes are the only taxes that can be raised without any objection from the public at large. Raise your income tax? How about taking more from your paycheck every week? Add a tax to doughnuts? Not going to happen. We won't even vote in favor of an increased sales tax. Most tobacco taxes go to help children too. It's the main funder of the last child health care bill. So stop being hypocritical towards the smoker. You want him or her to pay for all of these little extras that we have, and then you don't want them to actually use the items they purchase in order to fund them. I'm not even going to talk about sending thousands of farmers and other workers in the tobacco belt to the unemployment line, that obviously escapes most peoples minds. Then, I'll also add that there is a historical significance to the plant. Some native tribes actually place a spirital value on the plant. On a more personal note, I quit smoking two years ago the same way I started, with a conscious choice. I've watched several family members die of cancer, and not all smoked. I still think that there is absolutely nothing wrong with a person living their life with a few vices, but I also expect there to be some good manners involved as well. As far as I can tell, the modern smoker is much more polite about his/her habit than former generations and maybe it's time the rest of us lightened up a bit. Well this thread was started in the middle of the night during one of my insomniac episodes that I have now and then...really the worst thing is the standing in the cold to smoke since I don't smoke inside. Which is why I quoted RoamingO. The very valid points that he made. I took my oldest son to the doctor when he was 4 and was told he was getting bronchitis because of my smoking in the house. That was 22 years ago and I haven't smoked in the house since. I don't smoke in my car if my boys are with me. I keep a butt container by my smoking area in the back yard, I'll move away from my neighbors if their outside even if I'm in my own yard and I'll put it out if one is around and it's really bothering them. I also use an electronic cigarette in some places. So I agree that we are much more conscious of our habit. I grew up in a house full of adults smoking, we could smoke on trains, buses, airplanes, in restaurants... so I feel we have accommodated the nonsmoker well. Many places you can't even smoke in a bar now, which I don't really care about since I don't go to bars...but there was a time. Here in Utah we can't smoke in public parks, near schools, churches, etc. It's to the point that the only place we can smoke is in own homes and cars. So yeah... it's our choice, our addiction. If it gets to the point where it's not allowed near anyone who doesn't like it..we'll have to go for a ride around the block. There's always going to be someone who does something ya don't like. We need to move into tolerance. I personally can't stand being around obnoxious drunks, or the couple next door that constantly fight and scream at each other. So I turn my music up. Not really my place to go tell them their fighting is bothering me...so none should be telling me my addiction is bothering them and trying to educate me. I'm a grown up.... Indeed. Noone has the right to not be annoyed. Non smokers forget that. Often. |
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I tried to smoke.
I was 21, and everyone else was doing it. So I bought a carton to start :-) So I take a pack to work, where everybody smoked. I lit up, set it down, and forgot about it. They began asking me not to smoke. I couldn't inhale the nasty chit, so I blew it everywhere. When I remembered. I gave away the carton and the remainder pack. This made everyone happy and I figure I saved the fire department that extra trip. I don't mind smokers at all. Has naught to do with me. Unless I get second-hand smokers cancer. Then I will be a pissed dying person. |
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the number of dating possibilities I lose out on because of it. |
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Edited by
krupa
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Tue 06/22/10 10:43 AM
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Love me a good smoke though I have slacked off alot recently. At one point I thought about giving it up and replacing it with masterbation but, I could very quickly see that I would end up yanking my pecker clean off of my body at the pace I was going.
So, now I just smoke when I want and tell the children of my non smoking friends to "Go get a cigarette from your Dad. I will show you the right way to smoke"...I only say it right in front of the parents. The kids grin big and the parents call me an Ahole....gotta keep em on thier toes. |
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OH! little things like....spitting blood for a few months.....not being able to breath and having to sit up to do so......trying to sleep sitting up laying on the back of a dinette chair gasping for air....being burning hot one second and freezing cold a few seconds later....then it starts getting bad from their on. (How my father died!) Yep! and he was one who knew too much and would never get cancer......he was too smart and knew what his body was doing healthwise. He did not have much trouble with treatments......it killed him first! Remember this...."The cigarette smokes, not you......you are only the sucker!" for the money machine called the tobacco industry. sounds like a lecture to me...not to mention a little pompous and self rightious with a hint of preachy know it all..... listen .....one thing smokers are aware of is the risk... |
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I'm not a smoker but I do when I drink, one night I went smoke for smoke with a pack-a-day guy and ended up with a nicotine hangover the next day....
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I'm not a smoker but I do when I drink, one night I went smoke for smoke with a pack-a-day guy and ended up with a nicotine hangover the next day.... oh UHG!!! I bet you felt like shiit! Back when I drank, oh man, while drinking I would smoke twice as much as usual and have that too and I'm use to smoking...those were the times I quit for a minute... ended up stopping drinking and kept the smoking... The I gave up meat, then the sex stopped, not intentionally, just happened that way. C'mon, all I do is smoke, leave me alone!!! 
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Here's irony for ya, breast cancer is the only cancer that they can't link to smoking. Lucky me.
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Judgementalness
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I'm not a smoker but I do when I drink, one night I went smoke for smoke with a pack-a-day guy and ended up with a nicotine hangover the next day.... oh UHG!!! I bet you felt like shiit! Back when I drank, oh man, while drinking I would smoke twice as much as usual and have that too and I'm use to smoking...those were the times I quit for a minute... ended up stopping drinking and kept the smoking... The I gave up meat, then the sex stopped, not intentionally, just happened that way. C'mon, all I do is smoke, leave me alone!!! Yeah it seriously sucked, the most I will smoke is a few when I go out drinking. The only issue I would have with dating a smoker is that I would probably end up smoking more. |
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Here's irony for ya, breast cancer is the only cancer that they can't link to smoking. Lucky me. My mom never smoked, never drank...grew her own garden as far back as I can remember. We had our own chickens, cows..she ended up with breast cancer. She's a survivor, really threw a wrench into theories on breast cancer. My dad was the smoker, drinker, addict and ended up dying of colon cancer ....healthy lungs, liver, just all plugged up with meat. F u*king cancer, doesn't discriminate at all... |
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I'm not a smoker but I do when I drink, one night I went smoke for smoke with a pack-a-day guy and ended up with a nicotine hangover the next day.... oh UHG!!! I bet you felt like shiit! Back when I drank, oh man, while drinking I would smoke twice as much as usual and have that too and I'm use to smoking...those were the times I quit for a minute... ended up stopping drinking and kept the smoking... The I gave up meat, then the sex stopped, not intentionally, just happened that way. C'mon, all I do is smoke, leave me alone!!! Yeah it seriously sucked, the most I will smoke is a few when I go out drinking. The only issue I would have with dating a smoker is that I would probably end up smoking more. That's why you have to encourage the smoker to quit or cut back seriously. I'm in full control..so while many smokers are dying from the urge to smoke, I resist and it doesn't take me a lot. I actually hate the smell of it, meaning the ashtray smell, and when I do some workout or working on something else the idea of smoking doesn't really come up. I smoked when i was 18..and then quit completely until 26, then they pissed me off at the military just when I was getting out and started out of nowhere. Then it increased after breaking up with my g/f and then it slowly decreased again. It comes and goes with my mood swings. I could probably completely quit just like before, and if i would get together with a non-smoker, I would probably drop the whole habit in no time. |
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I tried this with my roommate and the only thing that changed was that she smoked behind my back and lied to me about it. As stated earlier in this thread smokers don't need a speech, if/when they want to quit they will.
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I've cut way down with going hiking an climbing...it's tough to climb a mountain with very little lung capacity. I can push my body, I can't expand my lungs any more than they will go. I realize my smoking doesn't jive well with my vegetarian, mountain climbing, tree huger life style, but it's my thing. I love the summer months when I cut back on my smoking, get too hot to eat, drink more water.
Then just when I'm feeling great winter comes...still don't like to stand in freezin weather to smoke. Sometimes I step outside, take 2 puffs, toss it and say F *ck it.... |
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I don't get the problem. I choose to smoke. I can choose not to smoke. I don't do drugs. I rarely drink. As far as vices go, it's rather harmless. There are plenty of worse things people do that I could spend all day bitching about.
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Like I tell em when some bonehead is preaching at me about cigarettes.
Yeah, I can give up smoking,drugs and drinking...eat right and exercize....and die anyway. |
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If you can't enjoy life anyway, what's the point? Besides, who wants to live forever?
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