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Topic: How important are political, religious and social views
Atlantis75's photo
Fri 06/04/10 07:05 PM
Edited by Atlantis75 on Fri 06/04/10 07:06 PM

They're not very important to me.

I've also found that morally depraved women give good back massages.


yeah and democrats are good at oral sex while roman Catholics will let you do it without condoms more times than atheists. laugh

FearandLoathing's photo
Fri 06/04/10 07:11 PM



Depends on if the other person is reasonable. I consider intelligence more important than political views. Even if an intelligent person disagrees with me at first, I can provide enough evidence that their sense of reason and logic would mandate that they agree with me. If Naomi Wolf can be converted, there's hope for just about anyone. glasses


But what if you are wrong? You can seriously provide evidence for any which direction.


In the unlikely event that I am wrong, and this can be proven with solid methodology, I would be willing to concede that I am wrong. Thanks for asking. I'm so rarely wrong I don't think about it much! :wink: :banana: pitchfork


You're missing the point, there is evidence to back up even the most insane claims. That is the problem, a lot of what is cited in the political side is usually bias and one-sided. And so few people actually look at the argument from both sides, creates an unequal argument in the first place.

Which is why I don't care, I know they can find evidence supporting their claim just as easy as I can find evidence supporting my own.

On that note, I do agree with Atlantis on the moral scope of being disrespectful.

Atlantis75's photo
Fri 06/04/10 07:20 PM
I actually like the people who are somewhat opposite to my own beliefs and my ways of thinking, because I like criticism but only if the criticism is valid. I might disagree, but I will consider it and probably even gonna make me think about it. And I like that.
The worse thing someone can do to me is to agree with everything I say, that's when I start to loose interest. If a woman is able to explain her position and why she believes what she believes than that's great and if she can also pay attention to my position and understand where I'm coming from, that's even better.

Dragoness's photo
Fri 06/04/10 07:22 PM


How important are political, religious and social views when assessing compatibility for you while dating?


They are very important to me. I have to be able to understand and respect the man
that I deal with every day. His views of the world and people in particular are important for gauging this.

I have found that people who do not respect other humans on this planet are more likely to be disrespectful to me.


What do you think?



I have found that people who do not respect other humans on this planet are more likely to be disrespectful to me.

But those are neither political or religious issues, those are moral issues on the individual basis.

I wouldn't believe, that everyone in the right wing wants to destroy the planet while the left is trying to save it, and the same with religions, I doubt anyone who is religious is disrespectful while non-religious is not or vice versa. These are only stereotyping examples, I'm not saying that this is what you believe.


I disagree to a point.

People can fake respect for a long period of time if they see a goal for doing so but they will not fake the disrespect for those they consider inconsequential, giving you an insight into what is coming when they believe they have you and do not have to pretend anymore.

Usually disrespect is universal, it is just a matter of when it is your turn.

You can call it moral, I believe it is a part of their personality. a not so savory part.


Atlantis75's photo
Fri 06/04/10 07:38 PM
Edited by Atlantis75 on Fri 06/04/10 07:38 PM



I disagree to a point.

People can fake respect for a long period of time if they see a goal for doing so but they will not fake the disrespect for those they consider inconsequential, giving you an insight into what is coming when they believe they have you and do not have to pretend anymore.

Usually disrespect is universal, it is just a matter of when it is your turn.

You can call it moral, I believe it is a part of their personality. a not so savory part.




Ok, but what is this have to do with political views and religious beliefs?

Dragoness's photo
Fri 06/04/10 07:40 PM
Edited by Dragoness on Fri 06/04/10 08:03 PM




I disagree to a point.

People can fake respect for a long period of time if they see a goal for doing so but they will not fake the disrespect for those they consider inconsequential, giving you an insight into what is coming when they believe they have you and do not have to pretend anymore.

Usually disrespect is universal, it is just a matter of when it is your turn.

You can call it moral, I believe it is a part of their personality. a not so savory part.




Ok, but what is this have to do with political views and religious beliefs?


I explained it in my post.

The red part is what politics seems to be about, determining who is important and who is expendable, not my philosophy, but seems to be the accepted version. Religions also determine the same thing, who is going to have it all and who is undeserving.

So on a political and religious level if you listen to what people say you can determine who they feel is worthy and who they feel is expendable and how much venom they use in the determination. Disrespect.

freeonthree's photo
Sat 06/05/10 01:25 AM
Im a hard atheiest, but I don't have a problem with religion, as long as there not nutty about it.
Socially ? im not sure what you mean by that.
I think discusing politics could lead to some great make up, well, you know...

msharmony's photo
Sat 06/05/10 01:35 AM

How important are political, religious and social views when assessing compatibility for you while dating?


They are very important to me. I have to be able to understand and respect the man
that I deal with every day. His views of the world and people in particular are important for gauging this.

I have found that people who do not respect other humans on this planet are more likely to be disrespectful to me.


What do you think?


depends upon the person obviously,, I think James Carville is an excellent example of how people with opposing political views can still make a relationship work. For me, however, I am not interested in doing THAT much work at this point in my life. Someone would need to have similar religious beliefs and social values,,with no compromise,, the political beliefs might not be an issue depending upon how extreme they were though.

TxsGal3333's photo
Sat 06/05/10 06:09 AM
Hummm not that important to me as long a they don't try to shove their views down my throat and think their opinion is all high and mighty...........myself I'm not into discussing Politics nor Religion nor into changing anyone's views on how they believe or what they believe in.

But now if it falls in to Racism then I have a problem with it for I do not care to hear others put another down due to their race. If they do this constantly then it will never go anywhere..... whoa

Fade2Black's photo
Sat 06/05/10 06:52 AM
Edited by Fade2Black on Sat 06/05/10 06:54 AM
Social .. Not sure what you mean here but he would need to care about those less fortunate & want to help when he could. I can't be with selfish, greedy or cheap/tight people. It's not my heart .. Sharing with others is a powerful quality.

Political .. as long as it's not day/night difference no biggie. I'm a bit middle of the road myself.

Religious .. my faith is defining in my life. It would need to be in his too. Not just for me, but because it's important to my entire family (ie my children) as well.




** edit .. I DO like a challenge politically especially because it makes me rethink my views and that's healthy.

:wink:

EquusDancer's photo
Sat 06/05/10 09:02 AM
Politics - I enjoy discussion on politics if it can be done from an open-minded point of view. I enjoy learning about other countries views on their governments, as well as our own. I am more then happy to go read about things, especially if someone tosses me a good recommended read. That said, one of the exes is into the whole tea-party/Glen Beck thing, and after reading Beck's stuff and comparing it to Paine, I find Beck to be a nut, and hypocrisy of him using Thomas Paine's work, but PICKING AND CHOOSING out of Paine's work to be obscene and downright scary. The man is convienently ignoring Paine's Age of Reason and his point of views on Christianity, which is kinda funny, since Paine doesn't have any respect for it.

Social - I would think there would be some similarities involved. After all, I couldn't abide with someone who cares about absolutely nothing, and is willing to screw over people, animals, and the planet. There needs to be some respect there.

Religion - Open-minded and knowledgable. Less and less, I don't believe I could deal with a devout Christian, even if they were respectful. On the off-chance there were kids to come later, I'd want them raised unbaptized in ANY faith, knowing how to make their own decisions when they were adults. I'd probably do it along the lines that my folks did with us, as atheists, but open to and aware of other beliefs, books, etc. I fully enjoy reading books on other faiths, and have a nice selection of books on many faiths. I enjoy talks and discussions.

EquusDancer's photo
Sat 06/05/10 09:03 AM


They're not very important to me.

I've also found that morally depraved women give good back massages.


yeah and democrats are good at oral sex while roman Catholics will let you do it without condoms more times than atheists. laugh



Snickers.... I'm not going to touch this. It's way to dangerous, as both a dem and atheist... rofl

clubbin714's photo
Sun 06/06/10 12:23 AM
Not very important at all.

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