Topic: Arizona Bans Ethnic Studies in Public Schools
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Wed 05/12/10 11:54 AM





Any curriculum brought fourth by La Raza which is where this came from should be banned. La Raza or THE RACE is a racist organization and if we are going to allow one hate group we need to allow Nation of Islam, WAR, Black Panthers and Aryan Nation into our schools as well. If we had true ethnic studies kids would learn about ALL cultures not just one and in Arizona it is just one.


That isn't true. Even the article states that others besides Mexican are being taught.

Arizona is becoming a haven for white racists. We need to make sure that all peoples from all over the world know that before they go there and visit.


Please do that way it'll keep all the liberals away.

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Wed 05/12/10 11:55 AM
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Wed 05/12/10 11:55 AM





Any curriculum brought fourth by La Raza which is where this came from should be banned. La Raza or THE RACE is a racist organization and if we are going to allow one hate group we need to allow Nation of Islam, WAR, Black Panthers and Aryan Nation into our schools as well. If we had true ethnic studies kids would learn about ALL cultures not just one and in Arizona it is just one.

Ya' fergot to include the Mexican Mafia culture. Or is already being taught?


La Raza preaches all kinds of stuff.

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Wed 05/12/10 12:00 PM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 05/12/10 12:13 PM




Arizona Bans Ethnic Studies in Public Schools
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(May 12) -- Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer signed a bill Tuesday banning ethnic studies in public schools, less than a month after she signed an immigration bill requiring police officers to ask for proof of residency papers from anyone they suspect of being an illegal immigrant.

The law, which takes effect Dec. 31, bans classes that are designed for a particular ethnic group, promote overthrow of the U.S. government, foster resentment toward a particular race or class, or "advocate ethnic solidarity instead of the treatment of pupils as individuals."
Arizona Republican Gov. Jan Brewer
Ross D. Franklin, AP
Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer signed a bill banning ethnic studies in schools.

Arizona Superintendent of Public Instruction Tom Horne said the bill was written to target a Mexican-American studies program in the Tucson school system, according to the Los Angeles Times. The 14-year-old program offers courses in standard topics like literature and history, but with an emphasis on Latino authors or history. It also has specialized courses with African-American and Native American emphasis.

Approximately 2 percent of the Tucson Unified School District's 55,000 students are enrolled in the program.

Sean Arce, who runs the Tucson program, said that students do better in school when presented with material that includes people who look like them.

"It's a highly engaging program that we have, and it's unfortunate that the state Legislature would go so far as to censor these classes," he said, according to The Associated Press.

But Horne, who is running for attorney general, says the program teaches Latino students that they are oppressed by white people.

"It's just like the old South, and it's long past time that we prohibited it," Horne told the AP.

The bill leaves it up to the state Board of Education or superintendent to decide whether a school violates the law. A school that does not comply could lose 10 percent of its state aid each month, and school districts can appeal the finding.
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Arizona is quickly becoming the haven for white racists, huh?

We should be teaching all ethnic backgrounds in school, not just the normal white one.





isnt AZ the state the held out on Martin Luther King day as a holiday?.....just saying


Yes, and for good reason. See the article "Myths of Martin Luther King, Jr." here- http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/epstein9.html

I personally consider Malcom X a better spokesman for ethnic equality than MLK. glasses



where in thst article is the good reason not to commemorate Kings contribution to equal rights and social justice?


King fought for equality , by peaceful means. Whether he was capitalist, communist, liberal, conservative, monogamous , unfaithful,,,,none of those labels or opinions do ANYTHING to take away from that.

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Wed 05/12/10 12:04 PM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 05/12/10 12:11 PM



We should be teaching all ethnic backgrounds in school, not just the normal white one.
rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

If they did that, when wood dey have time fer readin', writin' and 'rithmaticin'?rofl rofl rofl rofl

There are well over 300 different cultures present in the US.rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

IMO, culture teaching should be done by the parents and/or their ethnic community.

Should be offered in Community College but, kept out of grades 1-12.


My child's Lutheran school does it. The class is about world cultures. My kid has learned about different nationalities, different religions (Islam, Buddhism, etc.) Last year they learned about past cultures - ancient days. This year is about current cultures. I think it's great. It helps my kid to be more intelligent.


These kind of classes are a good idea.



I agree, I remember in middle school, when Black history month started gaining momentum,,,we would have mention of ONE historical black person over the pa in the mornings (28 people for a history of hundreds of years),,,,a statement that always stuck with me was from the student in front of me in homeroom when the introduction for black history was given,,,,he said " why do we have to have black history,, blacks havent done anything historical?"


now this is middle school, and although I was offended by what he said I knew he wasnt trying to be offensive because truth was students had no REASON to believe black people or any other ethnic culture of america had made ANY significant contributions(with the few exceptions of the preacher King and the Coretta who sat at the back of the bus),,,they werent being taught it so how would they know,,,,I think MANY MANY people submissively hold that view today ,, that this is and should remain a eurocentric country where only EURO culture and history and values need be understood,,,,,


Im not advocating that anyone should be MANDATED to learn anothers culture,,,but Im deeply saddened that the option to participate in such sharing should be BANNED,,, it would be similar to eliminating all foreign language options and only teaching english,,,whereas english is the predominate langauge that people must learn, it shouldnt be the ONLY one they can learn,,,,if we rid ethnic classes, we need to just eliminate all elective courses ,,,,

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Wed 05/12/10 12:12 PM






Any curriculum brought fourth by La Raza which is where this came from should be banned. La Raza or THE RACE is a racist organization and if we are going to allow one hate group we need to allow Nation of Islam, WAR, Black Panthers and Aryan Nation into our schools as well. If we had true ethnic studies kids would learn about ALL cultures not just one and in Arizona it is just one.

Ya' fergot to include the Mexican Mafia culture. Or is already being taught?


La Raza preaches all kinds of stuff.
drinker
As well does MECha. Viva Atzlan.rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

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Wed 05/12/10 12:20 PM





Arizona Bans Ethnic Studies in Public Schools
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(May 12) -- Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer signed a bill Tuesday banning ethnic studies in public schools, less than a month after she signed an immigration bill requiring police officers to ask for proof of residency papers from anyone they suspect of being an illegal immigrant.

The law, which takes effect Dec. 31, bans classes that are designed for a particular ethnic group, promote overthrow of the U.S. government, foster resentment toward a particular race or class, or "advocate ethnic solidarity instead of the treatment of pupils as individuals."
Arizona Republican Gov. Jan Brewer
Ross D. Franklin, AP
Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer signed a bill banning ethnic studies in schools.

Arizona Superintendent of Public Instruction Tom Horne said the bill was written to target a Mexican-American studies program in the Tucson school system, according to the Los Angeles Times. The 14-year-old program offers courses in standard topics like literature and history, but with an emphasis on Latino authors or history. It also has specialized courses with African-American and Native American emphasis.

Approximately 2 percent of the Tucson Unified School District's 55,000 students are enrolled in the program.

Sean Arce, who runs the Tucson program, said that students do better in school when presented with material that includes people who look like them.

"It's a highly engaging program that we have, and it's unfortunate that the state Legislature would go so far as to censor these classes," he said, according to The Associated Press.

But Horne, who is running for attorney general, says the program teaches Latino students that they are oppressed by white people.

"It's just like the old South, and it's long past time that we prohibited it," Horne told the AP.

The bill leaves it up to the state Board of Education or superintendent to decide whether a school violates the law. A school that does not comply could lose 10 percent of its state aid each month, and school districts can appeal the finding.
Filed under: Nation, Top Stories

http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/arizona-bans-ethnic-studies-in-public-schools/19474292

Arizona is quickly becoming the haven for white racists, huh?

We should be teaching all ethnic backgrounds in school, not just the normal white one.





isnt AZ the state the held out on Martin Luther King day as a holiday?.....just saying


Yes, and for good reason. See the article "Myths of Martin Luther King, Jr." here- http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/epstein9.html

I personally consider Malcom X a better spokesman for ethnic equality than MLK. glasses



where in thst article is the good reason not to commemorate Kings contribution to equal rights and social justice?


King fought for equality , by peaceful means. Whether he was capitalist, communist, liberal, conservative, monogamous , unfaithful,,,,none of those labels or opinions do ANYTHING to take away from that.


You didn't comprehend the article.slaphead This is the most annoying thing about post-literate America. So many people can't take a moment to READ something before they think they know everything about it.slaphead

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Wed 05/12/10 12:25 PM
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Wed 05/12/10 12:29 PM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 05/12/10 12:33 PM






Arizona Bans Ethnic Studies in Public Schools
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(May 12) -- Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer signed a bill Tuesday banning ethnic studies in public schools, less than a month after she signed an immigration bill requiring police officers to ask for proof of residency papers from anyone they suspect of being an illegal immigrant.

The law, which takes effect Dec. 31, bans classes that are designed for a particular ethnic group, promote overthrow of the U.S. government, foster resentment toward a particular race or class, or "advocate ethnic solidarity instead of the treatment of pupils as individuals."
Arizona Republican Gov. Jan Brewer
Ross D. Franklin, AP
Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer signed a bill banning ethnic studies in schools.

Arizona Superintendent of Public Instruction Tom Horne said the bill was written to target a Mexican-American studies program in the Tucson school system, according to the Los Angeles Times. The 14-year-old program offers courses in standard topics like literature and history, but with an emphasis on Latino authors or history. It also has specialized courses with African-American and Native American emphasis.

Approximately 2 percent of the Tucson Unified School District's 55,000 students are enrolled in the program.

Sean Arce, who runs the Tucson program, said that students do better in school when presented with material that includes people who look like them.

"It's a highly engaging program that we have, and it's unfortunate that the state Legislature would go so far as to censor these classes," he said, according to The Associated Press.

But Horne, who is running for attorney general, says the program teaches Latino students that they are oppressed by white people.

"It's just like the old South, and it's long past time that we prohibited it," Horne told the AP.

The bill leaves it up to the state Board of Education or superintendent to decide whether a school violates the law. A school that does not comply could lose 10 percent of its state aid each month, and school districts can appeal the finding.
Filed under: Nation, Top Stories

http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/arizona-bans-ethnic-studies-in-public-schools/19474292

Arizona is quickly becoming the haven for white racists, huh?

We should be teaching all ethnic backgrounds in school, not just the normal white one.





isnt AZ the state the held out on Martin Luther King day as a holiday?.....just saying


Yes, and for good reason. See the article "Myths of Martin Luther King, Jr." here- http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/epstein9.html

I personally consider Malcom X a better spokesman for ethnic equality than MLK. glasses



where in thst article is the good reason not to commemorate Kings contribution to equal rights and social justice?


King fought for equality , by peaceful means. Whether he was capitalist, communist, liberal, conservative, monogamous , unfaithful,,,,none of those labels or opinions do ANYTHING to take away from that.


You didn't comprehend the article.slaphead This is the most annoying thing about post-literate America. So many people can't take a moment to READ something before they think they know everything about it.slaphead



lol, I am actually quite literate and I did read the article(commentary),, here are the points,, in order

1.Myth #1: King wanted only equal rights, not special privileges and would have opposed affirmative action, quotas, reparations, and the other policies pursued by today’s civil rights leadership.

Myth # 2: King was an American patriot, who tried to get Americans to live up to their founding ideals

Myth # 3: King was a Christian activist whose struggle for civil rights is similar to the battles fought by the Christian Right today.

Myth # 4: King was an anti-communist
Myth # 5: King supported the free market.

Myth # 6: King was a conservative.

Myth # 7: King wasn’t a plagiarist.

so, in summary, the article poses the OPINION that King wanted special privileges , didnt care about the founding ideals, wasnt a christian activist, was a communist, didnt support the free market, was liberal, and was a plagiarist


and to restate my reaction,,NONE of these opinions(about his view of founding ideals , or his christianity, or his political views, or what type of government he supported) have anything to do with the reason he is honored, as a civil rights leader,,,,which he was

what he did , fighting for equality through peaceful means, in the segregated times in which he lived are still no less worthy of RESPECT and ADMIRATION,,,

I didnt see the same objection in Arizona regarding Columbus day, and I know one can find plenty of DIRT on him were they to look,,,,but his recognition for 'discovering' America is no less tainted for it

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Wed 05/12/10 12:43 PM







Arizona Bans Ethnic Studies in Public Schools
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(May 12) -- Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer signed a bill Tuesday banning ethnic studies in public schools, less than a month after she signed an immigration bill requiring police officers to ask for proof of residency papers from anyone they suspect of being an illegal immigrant.

The law, which takes effect Dec. 31, bans classes that are designed for a particular ethnic group, promote overthrow of the U.S. government, foster resentment toward a particular race or class, or "advocate ethnic solidarity instead of the treatment of pupils as individuals."
Arizona Republican Gov. Jan Brewer
Ross D. Franklin, AP
Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer signed a bill banning ethnic studies in schools.

Arizona Superintendent of Public Instruction Tom Horne said the bill was written to target a Mexican-American studies program in the Tucson school system, according to the Los Angeles Times. The 14-year-old program offers courses in standard topics like literature and history, but with an emphasis on Latino authors or history. It also has specialized courses with African-American and Native American emphasis.

Approximately 2 percent of the Tucson Unified School District's 55,000 students are enrolled in the program.

Sean Arce, who runs the Tucson program, said that students do better in school when presented with material that includes people who look like them.

"It's a highly engaging program that we have, and it's unfortunate that the state Legislature would go so far as to censor these classes," he said, according to The Associated Press.

But Horne, who is running for attorney general, says the program teaches Latino students that they are oppressed by white people.

"It's just like the old South, and it's long past time that we prohibited it," Horne told the AP.

The bill leaves it up to the state Board of Education or superintendent to decide whether a school violates the law. A school that does not comply could lose 10 percent of its state aid each month, and school districts can appeal the finding.
Filed under: Nation, Top Stories

http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/arizona-bans-ethnic-studies-in-public-schools/19474292

Arizona is quickly becoming the haven for white racists, huh?

We should be teaching all ethnic backgrounds in school, not just the normal white one.





isnt AZ the state the held out on Martin Luther King day as a holiday?.....just saying


Yes, and for good reason. See the article "Myths of Martin Luther King, Jr." here- http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/epstein9.html

I personally consider Malcom X a better spokesman for ethnic equality than MLK. glasses



where in thst article is the good reason not to commemorate Kings contribution to equal rights and social justice?


King fought for equality , by peaceful means. Whether he was capitalist, communist, liberal, conservative, monogamous , unfaithful,,,,none of those labels or opinions do ANYTHING to take away from that.


You didn't comprehend the article.slaphead This is the most annoying thing about post-literate America. So many people can't take a moment to READ something before they think they know everything about it.slaphead



lol, I am actually quite literate and I did read the article(commentary),, here are the points,, in order

1.Myth #1: King wanted only equal rights, not special privileges and would have opposed affirmative action, quotas, reparations, and the other policies pursued by today’s civil rights leadership.

Myth # 2: King was an American patriot, who tried to get Americans to live up to their founding ideals

Myth # 3: King was a Christian activist whose struggle for civil rights is similar to the battles fought by the Christian Right today.

Myth # 4: King was an anti-communist
Myth # 5: King supported the free market.

Myth # 6: King was a conservative.

Myth # 7: King wasn’t a plagiarist.

so, in summary, the article poses the OPINION that King wanted special privileges , didnt care about the founding ideals, wasnt a christian activist, was a communist, didnt support the free market, was liberal, and was a plagiarist


and to restate my reaction,,NONE of these opinions(about his view of founding ideals , or his christianity, or his political views, or what type of government he supported) have anything to do with the reason he is honored, as a civil rights leader,,,,which he was

what he did , fighting for equality through peaceful means, in the segregated times in which he lived are still no less worthy of RESPECT and ADMIRATION,,,

I didnt see the same objection in Arizona regarding Columbus day, and I know one can find plenty of DIRT on him were they to look,,,,but his recognition for 'discovering' America is no less tainted for it


Columbus didn't discover America the Vikings did.

But since we have been taught the story of the heroic Columbus we can't change it now..

don't get me started..

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Wed 05/12/10 12:45 PM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 05/12/10 12:47 PM








Arizona Bans Ethnic Studies in Public Schools
Updated: 31 minutes ago
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Dana Chivvis

Dana Chivvis Contributor
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(May 12) -- Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer signed a bill Tuesday banning ethnic studies in public schools, less than a month after she signed an immigration bill requiring police officers to ask for proof of residency papers from anyone they suspect of being an illegal immigrant.

The law, which takes effect Dec. 31, bans classes that are designed for a particular ethnic group, promote overthrow of the U.S. government, foster resentment toward a particular race or class, or "advocate ethnic solidarity instead of the treatment of pupils as individuals."
Arizona Republican Gov. Jan Brewer
Ross D. Franklin, AP
Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer signed a bill banning ethnic studies in schools.

Arizona Superintendent of Public Instruction Tom Horne said the bill was written to target a Mexican-American studies program in the Tucson school system, according to the Los Angeles Times. The 14-year-old program offers courses in standard topics like literature and history, but with an emphasis on Latino authors or history. It also has specialized courses with African-American and Native American emphasis.

Approximately 2 percent of the Tucson Unified School District's 55,000 students are enrolled in the program.

Sean Arce, who runs the Tucson program, said that students do better in school when presented with material that includes people who look like them.

"It's a highly engaging program that we have, and it's unfortunate that the state Legislature would go so far as to censor these classes," he said, according to The Associated Press.

But Horne, who is running for attorney general, says the program teaches Latino students that they are oppressed by white people.

"It's just like the old South, and it's long past time that we prohibited it," Horne told the AP.

The bill leaves it up to the state Board of Education or superintendent to decide whether a school violates the law. A school that does not comply could lose 10 percent of its state aid each month, and school districts can appeal the finding.
Filed under: Nation, Top Stories

http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/arizona-bans-ethnic-studies-in-public-schools/19474292

Arizona is quickly becoming the haven for white racists, huh?

We should be teaching all ethnic backgrounds in school, not just the normal white one.





isnt AZ the state the held out on Martin Luther King day as a holiday?.....just saying


Yes, and for good reason. See the article "Myths of Martin Luther King, Jr." here- http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/epstein9.html

I personally consider Malcom X a better spokesman for ethnic equality than MLK. glasses



where in thst article is the good reason not to commemorate Kings contribution to equal rights and social justice?


King fought for equality , by peaceful means. Whether he was capitalist, communist, liberal, conservative, monogamous , unfaithful,,,,none of those labels or opinions do ANYTHING to take away from that.


You didn't comprehend the article.slaphead This is the most annoying thing about post-literate America. So many people can't take a moment to READ something before they think they know everything about it.slaphead



lol, I am actually quite literate and I did read the article(commentary),, here are the points,, in order

1.Myth #1: King wanted only equal rights, not special privileges and would have opposed affirmative action, quotas, reparations, and the other policies pursued by today’s civil rights leadership.

Myth # 2: King was an American patriot, who tried to get Americans to live up to their founding ideals

Myth # 3: King was a Christian activist whose struggle for civil rights is similar to the battles fought by the Christian Right today.

Myth # 4: King was an anti-communist
Myth # 5: King supported the free market.

Myth # 6: King was a conservative.

Myth # 7: King wasn’t a plagiarist.

so, in summary, the article poses the OPINION that King wanted special privileges , didnt care about the founding ideals, wasnt a christian activist, was a communist, didnt support the free market, was liberal, and was a plagiarist


and to restate my reaction,,NONE of these opinions(about his view of founding ideals , or his christianity, or his political views, or what type of government he supported) have anything to do with the reason he is honored, as a civil rights leader,,,,which he was

what he did , fighting for equality through peaceful means, in the segregated times in which he lived are still no less worthy of RESPECT and ADMIRATION,,,

I didnt see the same objection in Arizona regarding Columbus day, and I know one can find plenty of DIRT on him were they to look,,,,but his recognition for 'discovering' America is no less tainted for it


Columbus didn't discover America the Vikings did.

But since we have been taught the story of the heroic Columbus we can't change it now..

don't get me started..



trust me I know Columbus didnt discover America anymore than I discovered Skokie, IL when I first passed through it,,,and that is indeed my point,,, people can nitpick away at anyone to try to discredit them or their accomplishments, but its inconsistent in ARIZONA that such a stand would be taken against MLK while Columbus is accepted

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Wed 05/12/10 01:53 PM

racists

I don't see 'em. Point 'em out to me.

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Wed 05/12/10 02:09 PM
Edited by papersmile on Wed 05/12/10 02:11 PM
IMO, culture teaching should be done by the parents and/or their ethnic community


i'm of the same mind.

i prefer my children to be taught to read and spell properly (none of this phonetically-sounded out jibberish and/or abbreviated crap, i wish them to learn math, as well as get enough physical education each day, and be led by good example.

also, i don't necessarily believe that just because you exclude cultures from being taught that you are an automatic racist. i don't teach my children about chinese culture - does that mean i hate orientals?


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Wed 05/12/10 02:32 PM
Edited by willing2 on Wed 05/12/10 02:34 PM

IMO, culture teaching should be done by the parents and/or their ethnic community


i'm of the same mind.

i prefer my children to be taught to read and spell properly (none of this phonetically-sounded out jibberish and/or abbreviated crap, i wish them to learn math, as well as get enough physical education each day, and be led by good example.

also, i don't necessarily believe that just because you exclude cultures from being taught that you are an automatic racist. i don't teach my children about chinese culture - (does that mean i hate orientals?)



Yeah!!!:wink: laugh smokin

is phone-netic the antique version of text-speak?

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Wed 05/12/10 02:50 PM
what next? take away my tacos, guacamole, potstickers, osso bucco and ravioli?

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Wed 05/12/10 02:58 PM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 05/12/10 03:06 PM

IMO, culture teaching should be done by the parents and/or their ethnic community


i'm of the same mind.

i prefer my children to be taught to read and spell properly (none of this phonetically-sounded out jibberish and/or abbreviated crap, i wish them to learn math, as well as get enough physical education each day, and be led by good example.

also, i don't necessarily believe that just because you exclude cultures from being taught that you are an automatic racist. i don't teach my children about chinese culture - does that mean i hate orientals?





no, but if you BANNED the opportunity for children at a school with a substantial chinese population to learn about chinese american history,,,, I might say otherwise


make all history an elective,, or take it all out,,,,it is very classist to assume children should be REQUIRED to learn one aspect of the history that has taken place with AMerica and not have the option to learn those aspects which pertain to them more specifically

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Wed 05/12/10 03:24 PM


IMO, culture teaching should be done by the parents and/or their ethnic community


i'm of the same mind.

i prefer my children to be taught to read and spell properly (none of this phonetically-sounded out jibberish and/or abbreviated crap, i wish them to learn math, as well as get enough physical education each day, and be led by good example.

also, i don't necessarily believe that just because you exclude cultures from being taught that you are an automatic racist. i don't teach my children about chinese culture - does that mean i hate orientals?





no, but if you BANNED the opportunity for children at a school with a substantial chinese population to learn about chinese american history,,,, I might say otherwise


make all history an elective,, or take it all out,,,,it is very classist to assume children should be REQUIRED to learn one aspect of the history that has taken place with AMerica and not have the option to learn those aspects which pertain to them more specifically


We're just talking about k-12 here. It's not reasonable to expect the history of every relevant ethnicity to be taught at this time. Schools have extreme difficulty in teaching even the basic three R's, much less the social sciences. This is was college Liberal Arts schools are for. For example, I'm half German, and I didn't get taught much about German history before college outside of WWI and WWII. If I were REALLY interested in it, I could easily study it on my own time.

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Wed 05/12/10 03:28 PM
Edited by willing2 on Wed 05/12/10 03:31 PM


IMO, culture teaching should be done by the parents and/or their ethnic community


i'm of the same mind.

i prefer my children to be taught to read and spell properly (none of this phonetically-sounded out jibberish and/or abbreviated crap, i wish them to learn math, as well as get enough physical education each day, and be led by good example.

also, i don't necessarily believe that just because you exclude cultures from being taught that you are an automatic racist. i don't teach my children about chinese culture - does that mean i hate orientals?





no, but if you BANNED the opportunity for children at a school with a substantial chinese population to learn about chinese american history,,,, I might say otherwise


make all history an elective,, or take it all out,,,,it is very classist to assume children should be REQUIRED to learn one aspect of the history that has taken place with AMerica and not have the option to learn those aspects which pertain to them more specifically

Don't ya'll just love it when they say, if you don't think like me, you're probably a racist!rofl rofl rofl I have to stick with teaching of world history and American history in public schools. "I'm more special than you" crap has no place in public school.

Teaching specific heritage and culture, in community college or taught by parents, wonderful and mo power to ya'.

Make public school teaching stick to what will serve them in the real world.

jmo



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Wed 05/12/10 04:22 PM
Point proven about the education system.

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Wed 05/12/10 04:40 PM
All this discussion about special heritages should actually be banned from discussion on these forums.

Not all of us are free to express our pride.

Some of us are being left out. Any talk about or hint of it, gets shut down. Deletion, reprimanding, and sometimes banishment.

I suggest bringing up and bragging about cultures and heritages be banned from the boards if any are excluded.

jmo