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Topic: 13-Year-Old Bride Bleeds to Death
willing2's photo
Mon 05/03/10 07:47 PM
There's some really sick perverts in this world. Someone ought to deliver this pervert to his 72 virgins yesterday along with the lawmakers who claim not being allowed to be sexually twisted is un-islamic. And would you believe it's still under debate?sick ill slaphead

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8610491.stm
Yemen child bride 'bleeds to death'


A 13-year-old Yemeni girl has died of internal bleeding three days after being married, rights groups say.

The report comes amid ongoing debate on setting a minimum age for brides in Yemen, where more than a quarter of girls are married before the age of 15.

A 2009 law setting the minimum age at 17 was repealed after some lawmakers said it was un-Islamic. A final decision is due this month.

There was no official confirmation of the death by Yemeni officials.

The girl, said to have been married to a man in his 20s, died in the west of the country last week, the Arab Sisters Forum (Saf) rights group said.

A medical report by the hospital where she was treated said she had suffered a tear to her genitals and severe bleeding after intercourse, the group said.

In a statement obtained by the Reuters news agency, Unicef's regional director, Sigrid Kaag, said the UN child agency was "dismayed by the death of yet another child bride in Yemen".

Human rights groups have been pressurising the authorities to outlaw family-arranged child marriages in Yemen, which has a tribal social structure.

jetlions's photo
Mon 05/03/10 07:50 PM
outragous

Ladylid2012's photo
Mon 05/03/10 07:52 PM
willing..that is awful, disgusting, sad, heartbreaking and as a mother my heart ache's right now.

We can not condemn the entire Muslim nation when these tragedies happen. Abusive of children is not isolated to Islam....

Our country nor any other has not such a perfect record with protecting our children...

brokenheart

msharmony's photo
Mon 05/03/10 07:58 PM
tragic,, this man should have known better ,,,,

may she rest in peace ,,,,

willing2's photo
Mon 05/03/10 07:58 PM

willing..that is awful, disgusting, sad, heartbreaking and as a mother my heart ache's right now.

We can not condemn the entire Muslim nation when these tragedies happen. Abusive of children is not isolated to Islam....

Our country nor any other has not such a perfect record with protecting our children...

brokenheart

I didn't imply condemning the entire cult. Just those who will support the pedophile "prophet" mohammed's blessing to marry and defile children.

msharmony's photo
Mon 05/03/10 08:00 PM
defiling and sex are as different as raping and sex....

not to condemn or support the culture, but I think it goes much deeper than simple age,,,here in america we have junior high students who give birth to healthy children,,,the biology can support it,, but it doesnt support ABUSE,,,

willing2's photo
Mon 05/03/10 08:01 PM

tragic,, this man should have known better ,,,,

may she rest in peace ,,,,

Perhaps he will when he gets his next child bride. Or not.

No mention if he will be charged with a crime.

willing2's photo
Mon 05/03/10 08:02 PM
Edited by willing2 on Mon 05/03/10 08:04 PM

defiling and sex are as different as raping and sex....

not to condemn or support the culture, but I think it goes much deeper than simple age,,,here in america we have junior high students who give birth to healthy children,,,the biology can support it,, but it doesnt support ABUSE,,,

I meant defile. He killed her.

If there is true justice, this man and those like him will burn for eternity.

msharmony's photo
Mon 05/03/10 08:04 PM
A 13-year-old Yemeni child bride who bled to death shortly after marriage was tied down and forced to have sex by her husband, according to interviews with the child's mother, police and medical reports.

The girl's mother, Nijma Ahmed, 50, told the Associated Press that before her daughter lost consciousness, she said that her husband had tied her up and forced himself on her. "She looked like she was butchered," she said about her daughter's injuries.

Elham Assi, 13, bled to death hours after she spoke to her mother and just days after she was married to a 23-year-old man. She died on April 2 in the deeply poor Yemeni village of Shueba, some 200 kilometers northwest of the capital. Her husband, Abed al-Hikmi, is in police custody.

http://www.dailychilli.com/news/3252-dead-child-bride-was-raped-by-husband


If this is the true account,, I think the young man will be charged with a crime ,,,clearly an unconsentual situation with excessive force,,,,

Ladylid2012's photo
Mon 05/03/10 08:10 PM


willing..that is awful, disgusting, sad, heartbreaking and as a mother my heart ache's right now.

We can not condemn the entire Muslim nation when these tragedies happen. Abusive of children is not isolated to Islam....

Our country nor any other has not such a perfect record with protecting our children...

brokenheart

I didn't imply condemning the entire cult. Just those who will support the pedophile "prophet" mohammed's blessing to marry and defile children.


Islam does not condone this....Mormonism does not condone plural marriage, Catholicism does not condone the raping of young boys...
these are all radical extremists. They are all dangerous, and so is spreading the hate!

willing2's photo
Mon 05/03/10 08:16 PM
One of the reasons I bring to light, crimes against kids is because for the first 14 years of my life, I was beaten physically and emotionally on a regular basis by my mother and stepfather.

Back when, I would think, what could a two year old do that was so bad to deserve that. That was the first time it hurt bad enough to leave an indelible impression I felt the stinging buds of the switches for years.

So, when I read or hear about a group that the so-called holy man blesses and condones abusing and killing babies, I burn to the bone and feel the pain of those innocent children being molested by sicko perverts.


willing2's photo
Mon 05/03/10 08:19 PM
Edited by willing2 on Mon 05/03/10 08:20 PM



willing..that is awful, disgusting, sad, heartbreaking and as a mother my heart ache's right now.

We can not condemn the entire Muslim nation when these tragedies happen. Abusive of children is not isolated to Islam....

Our country nor any other has not such a perfect record with protecting our children...

brokenheart

I didn't imply condemning the entire cult. Just those who will support the pedophile "prophet" mohammed's blessing to marry and defile children.


Islam does not condone this....Mormonism does not condone plural marriage, Catholicism does not condone the raping of young boys...
these are all radical extremists. They are all dangerous, and so is spreading the hate!

The islamic lawmakers would beg to differ with you.
Their quote; A 2009 law setting the minimum age at 17 was repealed after some lawmakers said it was un-Islamic.
I believe they are better versed in islam than you or me. maybe?

Ladylid2012's photo
Mon 05/03/10 08:28 PM




willing..that is awful, disgusting, sad, heartbreaking and as a mother my heart ache's right now.

We can not condemn the entire Muslim nation when these tragedies happen. Abusive of children is not isolated to Islam....

Our country nor any other has not such a perfect record with protecting our children...

brokenheart

I didn't imply condemning the entire cult. Just those who will support the pedophile "prophet" mohammed's blessing to marry and defile children.


Islam does not condone this....Mormonism does not condone plural marriage, Catholicism does not condone the raping of young boys...
these are all radical extremists. They are all dangerous, and so is spreading the hate!

The islamic lawmakers would beg to differ with you.
Their quote; A 2009 law setting the minimum age at 17 was repealed after some lawmakers said it was un-Islamic.
I believe they are better versed in islam than you or me. maybe?


It's all subjective ans open to perception....just like the Bible, the Book of Mormon, the Gita. ALL ....and the radicals justify it..always had been that way, always will be that way.
Is not the norm...

willing2's photo
Mon 05/03/10 08:35 PM





willing..that is awful, disgusting, sad, heartbreaking and as a mother my heart ache's right now.

We can not condemn the entire Muslim nation when these tragedies happen. Abusive of children is not isolated to Islam....

Our country nor any other has not such a perfect record with protecting our children...

brokenheart

I didn't imply condemning the entire cult. Just those who will support the pedophile "prophet" mohammed's blessing to marry and defile children.


Islam does not condone this....Mormonism does not condone plural marriage, Catholicism does not condone the raping of young boys...
these are all radical extremists. They are all dangerous, and so is spreading the hate!

The islamic lawmakers would beg to differ with you.
Their quote; A 2009 law setting the minimum age at 17 was repealed after some lawmakers said it was un-Islamic.
I believe they are better versed in islam than you or me. maybe?


It's all subjective ans open to perception....just like the Bible, the Book of Mormon, the Gita. ALL ....and the radicals justify it..always had been that way, always will be that way.
Is not the norm...

Okay. Subjective and perception. I don't spread hate, I shine the light on the truth.
Now, I have a movie to watch.:thumbsup:

Ladylid2012's photo
Mon 05/03/10 08:37 PM






willing..that is awful, disgusting, sad, heartbreaking and as a mother my heart ache's right now.

We can not condemn the entire Muslim nation when these tragedies happen. Abusive of children is not isolated to Islam....

Our country nor any other has not such a perfect record with protecting our children...

brokenheart

I didn't imply condemning the entire cult. Just those who will support the pedophile "prophet" mohammed's blessing to marry and defile children.


Islam does not condone this....Mormonism does not condone plural marriage, Catholicism does not condone the raping of young boys...
these are all radical extremists. They are all dangerous, and so is spreading the hate!

The islamic lawmakers would beg to differ with you.
Their quote; A 2009 law setting the minimum age at 17 was repealed after some lawmakers said it was un-Islamic.
I believe they are better versed in islam than you or me. maybe?


It's all subjective ans open to perception....just like the Bible, the Book of Mormon, the Gita. ALL ....and the radicals justify it..always had been that way, always will be that way.
Is not the norm...

Okay. Subjective and perception. I don't spread hate, I shine the light on the truth.
Now, I have a movie to watch.:thumbsup:


Enjoy the movieflowerforyou

Thomas3474's photo
Mon 05/03/10 11:12 PM



willing..that is awful, disgusting, sad, heartbreaking and as a mother my heart ache's right now.

We can not condemn the entire Muslim nation when these tragedies happen. Abusive of children is not isolated to Islam....

Our country nor any other has not such a perfect record with protecting our children...

brokenheart

I didn't imply condemning the entire cult. Just those who will support the pedophile "prophet" mohammed's blessing to marry and defile children.


Islam does not condone this....Mormonism does not condone plural marriage, Catholicism does not condone the raping of young boys...
these are all radical extremists. They are all dangerous, and so is spreading the hate!



You need a reality check.Peoples actions are one thing and pages written in the bible are another.If you think underage sex and marriage is not common in Islamic third world countries you are so wrong and miss educated it is unbelievable.When you have several countries practicing underage marriage and sex according to Islamic law that is not a few people or a minority.A minority is a few hundred or a few thousand.Not entire countries with millions of people.

I also take offense that you lump the Catholic church into this catagory.The Christian Holy bible denounces any sexual contact with children,out of marriage sex,and homosexual sex.The Islamic religion encourages all three of these.The Catholic church may have done some wrong things but they certainly didn't encourage sex in any way.You also do not have millions of Christians having underage sex with children because "that's what the bible says they can do".


Here take 5 minutes for a dose of reality and education.

Iran

http://www.parstimes.com/women/child_marriage.html

Iranian human-rights activists have won a partial victory in their long battle to protect children from being married off by their parents before they begin puberty. After months of deliberation, Iranian authorities recently approved a law that requires court approval for the marriage of girls below the age of 13 and boys younger than 15.

Prague, 28 June 2002 (RFE/RL) -- There are no official statistics for how many young children in Iran are married off by their parents before they become teenagers. But the practice has long been considered commonplace in the countryside and in smaller towns where traditional values rule. There, parents often arrange marriages for their children long before the children themselves are old enough to give their informed consent.

Such child marriages not only are sanctioned by tradition, they also are permitted under Iran's legal code. The law permits parents to marry off girls at the age of 9 and boys at the age of 14.


Yemen

http://sheikyermami.com/2009/02/26/child-marriage-in-yemen-islamic-clerics-go-apeshit-over-law-setting-minimum-age-for-marriage/

Sana’a (AsiaNews) - Some Yemeni religious figures have launched a “fatwa” against the law recently approved by Parliament that sets the minimum age for marriage at 17. The statement, signed by the rector of Al-Eman University, Sheikh Abdul-Majid al-Zindani, and by representatives of the party Islamic Islah, is aimed at eliminating the minimum age limit.

The question of the minimum age for marriage in Yemen was brought to the attention of world public opinion last April, following the case of Nojud Mohammed Ali, an 8-year-old girl who requested and obtained a divorce after being forced to marry a 30-year-old man.

News Yemen reports that the 17 signers of the “fatwa” claim that the law has no Islamic foundation and violates Sharia, the Islamic law, which the Constitution of the country affirms as the basis of all of its laws. “The marriage age,” says the assistant secretary general of the Islah party, Mohammad Assadi, “is an Islamic rule, and political parties cannot intervene in such affairs.”

But there are also some who are asking that the minimum age be raised to 18. One researcher on Islamic questions, AbdulAziz alAsali, also a member of Islah, maintains that girls need to be given time to complete high school, and that “at 18 years they are mentally and physically ready for marriage.”

For its part, the National Women’s Committee has asked Parliament not to respond to the lawmakers who are asking for the marriage age limit to be lowered to 12.


Indonesia

NU Fatwa declares underage girls can marry to build family values
Friday, March 26, 2010 22:14:23

http://www.nu.or.id/page.php?lang=en&menu=news_view&news_id=2206

Makassar, NU Online
Taking Islamic law as its guide, leading Muslim organization Nahdlatul Ulama on Friday issued a fatwa declaring underage marriage acceptable as long as the purpose of the union was to build a happy family.

KH Cholil Nafis, secretary of the committee for religious issues for this past week’s 32nd NU congress, said the gathering had agreed that there should be no age restrictions on marriage because sacred Islamic verses or regulations had not stipulated a minimum age.

“They can get married at any age, even girls who haven’t started menstruating,” he said as quoted by The Jakarta Globe. “And they can have intimate relationships and intercourse, as long as they are able.”

Cholil said Islamic law only suggested that marriages would be better after a woman had her first period.

“As long as the objectives of the marriage are positive, it is allowed,” Cholil said. “Mind you, we don’t encourage people just to get married to fulfill their desires, no,” he added.

NU was aware that some groups might disagree, he said. While NU looked at the issue from a religious point of view, others might focus on different aspects, such as human rights.

“If people disagree with our fatwa, so be it. We never force people to follow what we say.”

Cholil said an NU report mentioned underage marriages in some regions, but added that they were mostly traditional engagements between families who wanted their offspring to marry.

Under such a marriage, the minors are wed under Islamic law as if they were adults, but live separately with their families until they are judged mature enough to assume adult responsibilities.

Friday’s edict drew immediate criticism from the Indonesian Ulema Council (MUI), as well as the nation’s second-largest Islamic group, Muhammadiyah, and the National Commission on Violence Against Women (Komnas Perempuan).

“Girls need mental maturity to be responsible for their husband and children,” MUI chairman Amidhan told the Jakarta Globe. “Based on the 1974 Law on Marriage, girls can only get married after they are 16.”

Yunahar Ilyas, Muhammadiyah’s fatwa committee chairman, said NU should not issue edicts and recommendations based solely on an Islamic perspective.

“They are supposed to see this matter comprehensively. Menstruation is not a measurement of a girl’s maturity,” Yunahar said.

“She needs to be mentally and intellectually mature to be able to be a good mother and wife.”

Komnas Perempuan vice chairwoman Masruchah told the Globe that the edict violated the Law on Child Protection, which defines children as being younger than 18 years old.

Girls can begin to have their periods as early as the age of 9, but their reproductive system is still fragile and they are “not ready to be a sexually active person,” she said. (dar)


msharmony's photo
Mon 05/03/10 11:20 PM
kidshealth.org disagrees regarding periods...

"The start of periods is known as menarche. Menarche doesn't happen until all the parts of a girl's reproductive system have matured and are working together."


females can be all different sizes and shapes though, as can their reproductive parts so that one female may not be able to 'handle' the same thing that another can,,,but this is more body specific

Many tiny GROWN women cant give natural birth as their average sized counterparts can,,because their specific biology cant handle the same things,,,


Thomas3474's photo
Mon 05/03/10 11:48 PM
It's good to know that somewhere in this world there is actually women in countries other than America(where women seem to be more concerned about abortion rights and what a Catholic priest did to some boy 40 years ago)than 9 year old girl forced into marriage with 59 year old men that happend yesterday.When it comes to real womens rights and real justice you can count on American women to ignor,deny,and of course blame some other religon.


And Ms harmony what on earth are you talking about?You are complety dodging the subject.Do you really think we are dumb enough to think that these laws and news stories are talking about a 20 year old girl who looks 9???Do you realize you are speaking in defense of these perverts and underage marriage?


Willing is the only person doing any of these girls any justice by actually making us aware of these Islamic FACTS!Yes they are FACTS.Yes it is happening.No it isn't a minority.Yes it is practiced today in several countries.Yes it is related and rooted in Islam and Yes it is written in their bible.


I suppose it will be up to Willing,myself,and other males to do the job of protesting and getting the word out on this barbaric law.The women on this website sure won't lift a finger.They are too busy blaming the Christians!








Lpdon's photo
Tue 05/04/10 12:31 AM

There's some really sick perverts in this world. Someone ought to deliver this pervert to his 72 virgins yesterday along with the lawmakers who claim not being allowed to be sexually twisted is un-islamic. And would you believe it's still under debate?sick ill slaphead

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8610491.stm
Yemen child bride 'bleeds to death'


A 13-year-old Yemeni girl has died of internal bleeding three days after being married, rights groups say.

The report comes amid ongoing debate on setting a minimum age for brides in Yemen, where more than a quarter of girls are married before the age of 15.

A 2009 law setting the minimum age at 17 was repealed after some lawmakers said it was un-Islamic. A final decision is due this month.

There was no official confirmation of the death by Yemeni officials.

The girl, said to have been married to a man in his 20s, died in the west of the country last week, the Arab Sisters Forum (Saf) rights group said.

A medical report by the hospital where she was treated said she had suffered a tear to her genitals and severe bleeding after intercourse, the group said.

In a statement obtained by the Reuters news agency, Unicef's regional director, Sigrid Kaag, said the UN child agency was "dismayed by the death of yet another child bride in Yemen".

Human rights groups have been pressurising the authorities to outlaw family-arranged child marriages in Yemen, which has a tribal social structure.


I posted the oringinal artice when thses two got married.

Isn't Islam a great religion? I wonder how that 9 year old boy that the 'so' called Prophet Mohammud had.

Lpdon's photo
Tue 05/04/10 12:33 AM

There's some really sick perverts in this world. Someone ought to deliver this pervert to his 72 virgins yesterday along with the lawmakers who claim not being allowed to be sexually twisted is un-islamic. And would you believe it's still under debate?sick ill slaphead

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8610491.stm
Yemen child bride 'bleeds to death'


A 13-year-old Yemeni girl has died of internal bleeding three days after being married, rights groups say.

The report comes amid ongoing debate on setting a minimum age for brides in Yemen, where more than a quarter of girls are married before the age of 15.

A 2009 law setting the minimum age at 17 was repealed after some lawmakers said it was un-Islamic. A final decision is due this month.

There was no official confirmation of the death by Yemeni officials.

The girl, said to have been married to a man in his 20s, died in the west of the country last week, the Arab Sisters Forum (Saf) rights group said.

A medical report by the hospital where she was treated said she had suffered a tear to her genitals and severe bleeding after intercourse, the group said.

In a statement obtained by the Reuters news agency, Unicef's regional director, Sigrid Kaag, said the UN child agency was "dismayed by the death of yet another child bride in Yemen".

Human rights groups have been pressurising the authorities to outlaw family-arranged child marriages in Yemen, which has a tribal social structure.


He also paid the girls family over $100,000 for her before they got married. He faces human trafficking charges as he smuggled her into the country. You should check out the article, it is unbvelieveable, actually it is believeable when you realize it's Islam were talking about.

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