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willing..that is awful, disgusting, sad, heartbreaking and as a mother my heart ache's right now. We can not condemn the entire Muslim nation when these tragedies happen. Abusive of children is not isolated to Islam.... Our country nor any other has not such a perfect record with protecting our children... I didn't imply condemning the entire cult. Just those who will support the pedophile "prophet" mohammed's blessing to marry and defile children. Islam does not condone this....Mormonism does not condone plural marriage, Catholicism does not condone the raping of young boys... these are all radical extremists. They are all dangerous, and so is spreading the hate! Islam DOES condone this. |
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willing..that is awful, disgusting, sad, heartbreaking and as a mother my heart ache's right now. We can not condemn the entire Muslim nation when these tragedies happen. Abusive of children is not isolated to Islam.... Our country nor any other has not such a perfect record with protecting our children... I didn't imply condemning the entire cult. Just those who will support the pedophile "prophet" mohammed's blessing to marry and defile children. Islam does not condone this....Mormonism does not condone plural marriage, Catholicism does not condone the raping of young boys... these are all radical extremists. They are all dangerous, and so is spreading the hate! You need a reality check.Peoples actions are one thing and pages written in the bible are another.If you think underage sex and marriage is not common in Islamic third world countries you are so wrong and miss educated it is unbelievable.When you have several countries practicing underage marriage and sex according to Islamic law that is not a few people or a minority.A minority is a few hundred or a few thousand.Not entire countries with millions of people. I also take offense that you lump the Catholic church into this catagory.The Christian Holy bible denounces any sexual contact with children,out of marriage sex,and homosexual sex.The Islamic religion encourages all three of these.The Catholic church may have done some wrong things but they certainly didn't encourage sex in any way.You also do not have millions of Christians having underage sex with children because "that's what the bible says they can do". Here take 5 minutes for a dose of reality and education. Iran http://www.parstimes.com/women/child_marriage.html Iranian human-rights activists have won a partial victory in their long battle to protect children from being married off by their parents before they begin puberty. After months of deliberation, Iranian authorities recently approved a law that requires court approval for the marriage of girls below the age of 13 and boys younger than 15. Prague, 28 June 2002 (RFE/RL) -- There are no official statistics for how many young children in Iran are married off by their parents before they become teenagers. But the practice has long been considered commonplace in the countryside and in smaller towns where traditional values rule. There, parents often arrange marriages for their children long before the children themselves are old enough to give their informed consent. Such child marriages not only are sanctioned by tradition, they also are permitted under Iran's legal code. The law permits parents to marry off girls at the age of 9 and boys at the age of 14. Yemen http://sheikyermami.com/2009/02/26/child-marriage-in-yemen-islamic-clerics-go-apeshit-over-law-setting-minimum-age-for-marriage/ Sana’a (AsiaNews) - Some Yemeni religious figures have launched a “fatwa” against the law recently approved by Parliament that sets the minimum age for marriage at 17. The statement, signed by the rector of Al-Eman University, Sheikh Abdul-Majid al-Zindani, and by representatives of the party Islamic Islah, is aimed at eliminating the minimum age limit. The question of the minimum age for marriage in Yemen was brought to the attention of world public opinion last April, following the case of Nojud Mohammed Ali, an 8-year-old girl who requested and obtained a divorce after being forced to marry a 30-year-old man. News Yemen reports that the 17 signers of the “fatwa” claim that the law has no Islamic foundation and violates Sharia, the Islamic law, which the Constitution of the country affirms as the basis of all of its laws. “The marriage age,” says the assistant secretary general of the Islah party, Mohammad Assadi, “is an Islamic rule, and political parties cannot intervene in such affairs.” But there are also some who are asking that the minimum age be raised to 18. One researcher on Islamic questions, AbdulAziz alAsali, also a member of Islah, maintains that girls need to be given time to complete high school, and that “at 18 years they are mentally and physically ready for marriage.” For its part, the National Women’s Committee has asked Parliament not to respond to the lawmakers who are asking for the marriage age limit to be lowered to 12. Indonesia NU Fatwa declares underage girls can marry to build family values Friday, March 26, 2010 22:14:23 http://www.nu.or.id/page.php?lang=en&menu=news_view&news_id=2206 Makassar, NU Online Taking Islamic law as its guide, leading Muslim organization Nahdlatul Ulama on Friday issued a fatwa declaring underage marriage acceptable as long as the purpose of the union was to build a happy family. KH Cholil Nafis, secretary of the committee for religious issues for this past week’s 32nd NU congress, said the gathering had agreed that there should be no age restrictions on marriage because sacred Islamic verses or regulations had not stipulated a minimum age. “They can get married at any age, even girls who haven’t started menstruating,” he said as quoted by The Jakarta Globe. “And they can have intimate relationships and intercourse, as long as they are able.” Cholil said Islamic law only suggested that marriages would be better after a woman had her first period. “As long as the objectives of the marriage are positive, it is allowed,” Cholil said. “Mind you, we don’t encourage people just to get married to fulfill their desires, no,” he added. NU was aware that some groups might disagree, he said. While NU looked at the issue from a religious point of view, others might focus on different aspects, such as human rights. “If people disagree with our fatwa, so be it. We never force people to follow what we say.” Cholil said an NU report mentioned underage marriages in some regions, but added that they were mostly traditional engagements between families who wanted their offspring to marry. Under such a marriage, the minors are wed under Islamic law as if they were adults, but live separately with their families until they are judged mature enough to assume adult responsibilities. Friday’s edict drew immediate criticism from the Indonesian Ulema Council (MUI), as well as the nation’s second-largest Islamic group, Muhammadiyah, and the National Commission on Violence Against Women (Komnas Perempuan). “Girls need mental maturity to be responsible for their husband and children,” MUI chairman Amidhan told the Jakarta Globe. “Based on the 1974 Law on Marriage, girls can only get married after they are 16.” Yunahar Ilyas, Muhammadiyah’s fatwa committee chairman, said NU should not issue edicts and recommendations based solely on an Islamic perspective. “They are supposed to see this matter comprehensively. Menstruation is not a measurement of a girl’s maturity,” Yunahar said. “She needs to be mentally and intellectually mature to be able to be a good mother and wife.” Komnas Perempuan vice chairwoman Masruchah told the Globe that the edict violated the Law on Child Protection, which defines children as being younger than 18 years old. Girls can begin to have their periods as early as the age of 9, but their reproductive system is still fragile and they are “not ready to be a sexually active person,” she said. (dar) Wow, where did you finmd all these? Awesome work. I know in Saudi Arabia it is simular as well as Pakistan and other Islamic countries in the Middle East. Also if the children dont conform to the arrainged marriage the parents will kill them. Also they will kill them if the leave the religion. It's kinda sick that a parent would do that to their child, or even sell them off. I could never. |
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I don't care who you are, what culture you're from, what
you're beliefs are, or your religion is, if you're a supposed adult, and you can ever even THINK about having any type of relationship with a child other than friend and nurturing, protecting, and supporting...you are sick. |
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It's good to know that somewhere in this world there is actually women in countries other than America(where women seem to be more concerned about abortion rights and what a Catholic priest did to some boy 40 years ago)than 9 year old girl forced into marriage with 59 year old men that happend yesterday.When it comes to real womens rights and real justice you can count on American women to ignor,deny,and of course blame some other religon. And Ms harmony what on earth are you talking about?You are complety dodging the subject.Do you really think we are dumb enough to think that these laws and news stories are talking about a 20 year old girl who looks 9???Do you realize you are speaking in defense of these perverts and underage marriage? Willing is the only person doing any of these girls any justice by actually making us aware of these Islamic FACTS!Yes they are FACTS.Yes it is happening.No it isn't a minority.Yes it is practiced today in several countries.Yes it is related and rooted in Islam and Yes it is written in their bible. I suppose it will be up to Willing,myself,and other males to do the job of protesting and getting the word out on this barbaric law.The women on this website sure won't lift a finger.They are too busy blaming the Christians! no, I am not dodging. My reaction is that this girl was RAPED and any victim of rape deserves justice. I am stating that the age correlation doesnt make someone a pervert because different cultures raise their girls differently and attributes we give to 'children' are often cultural. There have been many great kings and queens who were what americans consider 'children' but who were still able to rule, and even in america there have been very young parents,,,so I think the issue of whether someone is under 18 or 17 is off base of what this story is about,,,rape |
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Taking my emotions out of the factor.
The man was well within his legal right to tie the child up and take the sex. According to yemen law and mohammed, it wasn't rape. Another fact, a little off topic but, speaking of lawful rights. If a wife is convicted in a court of law for adultery, the husband is well within his legal right to kill her. For a wife or any other woman to prove she was raped, she has to have two male witnesses to testify in her behalf. No witnesses, she is found guilty and husband has the lawful right to kill her. The single woman will be stoned. Now, this isn't ancient history. These are current laws. I suppose if we in America had these laws,l there would be fewer divorces. |
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It's good to know that somewhere in this world there is actually women in countries other than America(where women seem to be more concerned about abortion rights and what a Catholic priest did to some boy 40 years ago)than 9 year old girl forced into marriage with 59 year old men that happend yesterday.When it comes to real womens rights and real justice you can count on American women to ignor,deny,and of course blame some other religon. And Ms harmony what on earth are you talking about?You are complety dodging the subject.Do you really think we are dumb enough to think that these laws and news stories are talking about a 20 year old girl who looks 9???Do you realize you are speaking in defense of these perverts and underage marriage? Willing is the only person doing any of these girls any justice by actually making us aware of these Islamic FACTS!Yes they are FACTS.Yes it is happening.No it isn't a minority.Yes it is practiced today in several countries.Yes it is related and rooted in Islam and Yes it is written in their bible. I suppose it will be up to Willing,myself,and other males to do the job of protesting and getting the word out on this barbaric law.The women on this website sure won't lift a finger.They are too busy blaming the Christians! no, I am not dodging. My reaction is that this girl was RAPED and any victim of rape deserves justice. I am stating that the age correlation doesnt make someone a pervert because different cultures raise their girls differently and attributes we give to 'children' are often cultural. There have been many great kings and queens who were what americans consider 'children' but who were still able to rule, and even in america there have been very young parents,,,so I think the issue of whether someone is under 18 or 17 is off base of what this story is about,,,rape So if a 60 year old guy bangs a 9 year old girl it's ok ans hes not a pervert? I don't care who you are or where your from, that is sick, wrong and perverted. |
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