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Sat 05/01/10 10:18 PM
You can access the links to the proof by going to the site below.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/news/2009/dec/judicial-watch-announces-list-washington-s-ten-most-wanted-corrupt-politicians-2009

Judicial Watch Announces List of Washington's "Ten Most Wanted Corrupt Politicians" for 2009

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Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, today released its 2009 list of Washington's "Ten Most Wanted Corrupt Politicians." The list, in alphabetical order, includes:

1. Senator Christopher Dodd (D-CT): This marks two years in a row for Senator Dodd, who made the 2008 "Ten Most Corrupt" list for his corrupt relationship with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and for accepting preferential treatment and loan terms from Countrywide Financial, a scandal which still dogs him. In 2009, the scandals kept coming for the Connecticut Democrat. In 2009, Judicial Watch filed a Senate ethics complaint against Dodd for undervaluing a property he owns in Ireland on his Senate Financial Disclosure forms. Judicial Watch's complaint forced Dodd to amend the forms. However, press reports suggest the property to this day remains undervalued. Judicial Watch also alleges in the complaint that Dodd obtained a sweetheart deal for the property in exchange for his assistance in obtaining a presidential pardon (during the Clinton administration) and other favors for a long-time friend and business associate. The false financial disclosure forms were part of the cover-up. Dodd remains the head the Senate Banking Committee.

2. Senator John Ensign (R-NV): A number of scandals popped up in 2009 involving public officials who conducted illicit affairs, and then attempted to cover them up with hush payments and favors, an obvious abuse of power. The year's worst offender might just be Nevada Republican Senator John Ensign. Ensign admitted in June to an extramarital affair with the wife of one of his staff members, who then allegedly obtained special favors from the Nevada Republican in exchange for his silence. According to The New York Times: "The Justice Department and the Senate Ethics Committee are expected to conduct preliminary inquiries into whether Senator John Ensign violated federal law or ethics rules as part of an effort to conceal an affair with the wife of an aide…" The former staffer, Douglas Hampton, began to lobby Mr. Ensign's office immediately upon leaving his congressional job, despite the fact that he was subject to a one-year lobbying ban. Ensign seems to have ignored the law and allowed Hampton lobbying access to his office as a payment for his silence about the affair. (These are potentially criminal offenses.) It looks as if Ensign misused his public office (and taxpayer resources) to cover up his sexual shenanigans.

3. Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA): Judicial Watch is investigating a $12 million TARP cash injection provided to the Boston-based OneUnited Bank at the urging of Massachusetts Rep. Barney Frank. As reported in the January 22, 2009, edition of the Wall Street Journal, the Treasury Department indicated it would only provide funds to healthy banks to jump-start lending. Not only was OneUnited Bank in massive financial turmoil, but it was also "under attack from its regulators for allegations of poor lending practices and executive-pay abuses, including owning a Porsche for its executives' use." Rep. Frank admitted he spoke to a "federal regulator," and Treasury granted the funds. (The bank continues to flounder despite Frank's intervention for federal dollars.) Moreover, Judicial Watch uncovered documents in 2009 that showed that members of Congress for years were aware that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were playing fast and loose with accounting issues, risk assessment issues and executive compensation issues, even as liberals led by Rep. Frank continued to block attempts to rein in the two Government Sponsored Enterprises (GSEs). For example, during a hearing on September 10, 2003, before the House Committee on Financial Services considering a Bush administration proposal to further regulate Fannie and Freddie, Rep. Frank stated: "I want to begin by saying that I am glad to consider the legislation, but I do not think we are facing any kind of a crisis. That is, in my view, the two Government Sponsored Enterprises we are talking about here, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, are not in a crisis. We have recently had an accounting problem with Freddie Mac that has led to people being dismissed, as appears to be appropriate. I do not think at this point there is a problem with a threat to the Treasury." Frank received $42,350 in campaign contributions from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac between 1989 and 2008. Frank also engaged in a relationship with a Fannie Mae Executive while serving on the House Banking Committee, which has jurisdiction over Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

4. Secretary of Treasury Timothy Geithner: In 2009, Obama Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner admitted that he failed to pay $34,000 in Social Security and Medicare taxes from 2001-2004 on his lucrative salary at the International Monetary Fund (IMF), an organization with 185 member countries that oversees the global financial system. (Did we mention Geithner now runs the IRS?) It wasn't until President Obama tapped Geithner to head the Treasury Department that he paid back most of the money, although the IRS kindly waived the hefty penalties. In March 2009, Geithner also came under fire for his handling of the AIG bonus scandal, where the company used $165 million of its bailout funds to pay out executive bonuses, resulting in a massive public backlash. Of course as head of the New York Federal Reserve, Geithner helped craft the AIG deal in September 2008. However, when the AIG scandal broke, Geithner claimed he knew nothing of the bonuses until March 10, 2009. The timing is important. According to CNN: "Although Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner told congressional leaders on Tuesday that he learned of AIG's impending $160 million bonus payments to members of its troubled financial-products unit on March 10, sources tell TIME that the New York Federal Reserve informed Treasury staff that the payments were imminent on Feb. 28. That is ten days before Treasury staffers say they first learned 'full details' of the bonus plan, and three days before the [Obama] Administration launched a new $30 billion infusion of cash for AIG." Throw in another embarrassing disclosure in 2009 that Geithner employed "household help" ineligible to work in the United States, and it becomes clear why the Treasury Secretary has earned a spot on the "Ten Most Corrupt Politicians in Washington" list.

5. Attorney General Eric Holder: Tim Geithner can be sure he won't be hounded about his tax-dodging by his colleague Eric Holder, US Attorney General. Judicial Watch strongly opposed Holder because of his terrible ethics record, which includes: obstructing an FBI investigation of the theft of nuclear secrets from Los Alamos Nuclear Laboratory; rejecting multiple requests for an independent counsel to investigate alleged fundraising abuses by then-Vice President Al Gore in the Clinton White House; undermining the criminal investigation of President Clinton by Kenneth Starr in the midst of the Lewinsky investigation; and planning the violent raid to seize then-six-year-old Elian Gonzalez at gunpoint in order to return him to Castro's Cuba. Moreover, there is his soft record on terrorism. Holder bypassed Justice Department procedures to push through Bill Clinton's scandalous presidential pardons and commutations, including for 16 members of FALN, a violent Puerto Rican terrorist group that orchestrated approximately 120 bombings in the United States, killing at least six people and permanently maiming dozens of others, including law enforcement officers. His record in the current administration is no better. As he did during the Clinton administration, Holder continues to ignore serious incidents of corruption that could impact his political bosses at the White House. For example, Holder has refused to investigate charges that the Obama political machine traded VIP access to the White House in exchange for campaign contributions – a scheme eerily similar to one hatched by Holder's former boss, Bill Clinton in the 1990s. The Holder Justice Department also came under fire for dropping a voter intimidation case against the New Black Panther Party. On Election Day 2008, Black Panthers dressed in paramilitary garb threatened voters as they approached polling stations. Holder has also failed to initiate a comprehensive Justice investigation of the notorious organization ACORN (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now), which is closely tied to President Obama. There were allegedly more than 400,000 fraudulent ACORN voter registrations in the 2008 campaign. And then there were the journalist videos catching ACORN Housing workers advising undercover reporters on how to evade tax, immigration, and child prostitution laws. Holder's controversial decisions on new rights for terrorists and his attacks on previous efforts to combat terrorism remind many of the fact that his former law firm has provided and continues to provide pro bono representation to terrorists at Guantanamo Bay. Holder's politicization of the Justice Department makes one long for the days of Alberto Gonzales.

6. Rep. Jesse Jackson, Jr. (D-IL)/ Senator Roland Burris (D-IL): One of the most serious scandals of 2009 involved a scheme by former Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich to sell President Obama's then-vacant Senate seat to the highest bidder. Two men caught smack dab in the middle of the scandal: Senator Roland Burris, who ultimately got the job, and Rep. Jesse Jackson, Jr. According to the Chicago Sun-Times, emissaries for Jesse Jackson Jr., named "Senate Candidate A" in the Blagojevich indictment, reportedly offered $1.5 million to Blagojevich during a fundraiser if he named Jackson Jr. to Obama's seat. Three days later federal authorities arrested Blagojevich. Burris, for his part, apparently lied about his contacts with Blagojevich, who was arrested in December 2008 for trying to sell Obama's Senate seat. According to Reuters: "Roland Burris came under fresh scrutiny…after disclosing he tried to raise money for the disgraced former Illinois governor who named him to the U.S. Senate seat once held by President Barack Obama…In the latest of those admissions, Burris said he looked into mounting a fundraiser for Rod Blagojevich -- later charged with trying to sell Obama's Senate seat -- at the same time he was expressing interest to the then-governor's aides about his desire to be appointed." Burris changed his story five times regarding his contacts with Blagojevich prior to the Illinois governor appointing him to the U.S. Senate. Three of those changing explanations came under oath.

7. President Barack Obama: During his presidential campaign, President Obama promised to run an ethical and transparent administration. However, in his first year in office, the President has delivered corruption and secrecy, bringing Chicago-style political corruption to the White House. Consider just a few Obama administration "lowlights" from year one: Even before President Obama was sworn into office, he was interviewed by the FBI for a criminal investigation of former Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich's scheme to sell the President's former Senate seat to the highest bidder. (Obama's Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel and slumlord Valerie Jarrett, both from Chicago, are also tangled up in the Blagojevich scandal.) Moreover, the Obama administration made the startling claim that the Privacy Act does not apply to the White House. The Obama White House believes it can violate the privacy rights of American citizens without any legal consequences or accountability. President Obama boldly proclaimed that "transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency," but his administration is addicted to secrecy, stonewalling far too many of Judicial Watch's Freedom of Information Act requests and is refusing to make public White House visitor logs as federal law requires. The Obama administration turned the National Endowment of the Arts (as well as the agency that runs the AmeriCorps program) into propaganda machines, using tax dollars to persuade "artists" to promote the Obama agenda. According to documents uncovered by Judicial Watch, the idea emerged as a direct result of the Obama campaign and enjoyed White House approval and participation. President Obama has installed a record number of "czars" in positions of power. Too many of these individuals are leftist radicals who answer to no one but the president. And too many of the czars are not subject to Senate confirmation (which raises serious constitutional questions). Under the President's bailout schemes, the federal government continues to appropriate or control — through fiat and threats — large sectors of the private economy, prompting conservative columnist George Will to write: "The administration's central activity — the political allocation of wealth and opportunity — is not merely susceptible to corruption, it is corruption." Government-run healthcare and car companies, White House coercion, uninvestigated ACORN corruption, debasing his office to help Chicago cronies, attacks on conservative media and the private sector, unprecedented and dangerous new rights for terrorists, perks for campaign donors — this is Obama's "ethics" record — and we haven't even gotten through the first year of his presidency.

8. Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA): At the heart of the corruption problem in Washington is a sense of entitlement. Politicians believe laws and rules (even the U.S. Constitution) apply to the rest of us but not to them. Case in point: House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and her excessive and boorish demands for military travel. Judicial Watch obtained documents from the Pentagon in 2009 that suggest Pelosi has been treating the Air Force like her own personal airline. These documents, obtained through the Freedom of Information Act, include internal Pentagon email correspondence detailing attempts by Pentagon staff to accommodate Pelosi's numerous requests for military escorts and military aircraft as well as the speaker's 11th hour cancellations and changes. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi also came under fire in April 2009, when she claimed she was never briefed about the CIA's use of the waterboarding technique during terrorism investigations. The CIA produced a report documenting a briefing with Pelosi on September 4, 2002, that suggests otherwise. Judicial Watch also obtained documents, including a CIA Inspector General report, which further confirmed that Congress was fully briefed on the enhanced interrogation techniques. Aside from her own personal transgressions, Nancy Pelosi has ignored serious incidents of corruption within her own party, including many of the individuals on this list. (See Rangel, Murtha, Jesse Jackson, Jr., etc.)

9. Rep. John Murtha (D-PA) and the rest of the PMA Seven: Rep. John Murtha made headlines in 2009 for all the wrong reasons. The Pennsylvania congressman is under federal investigation for his corrupt relationship with the now-defunct defense lobbyist PMA Group. PMA, founded by a former Murtha associate, has been the congressman's largest campaign contributor. Since 2002, Murtha has raised $1.7 million from PMA and its clients. And what did PMA and its clients receive from Murtha in return for their generosity? Earmarks -- tens of millions of dollars in earmarks. In fact, even with all of the attention surrounding his alleged influence peddling, Murtha kept at it. Following an FBI raid of PMA's offices earlier in 2009, Murtha continued to seek congressional earmarks for PMA clients, while also hitting them up for campaign contributions. According to The Hill, in April, "Murtha reported receiving contributions from three former PMA clients for whom he requested earmarks in the pending appropriations bills." When it comes to the PMA scandal, Murtha is not alone. As many as six other Members of Congress are currently under scrutiny according to The Washington Post. They include: Peter J. Visclosky (D-IN.), James P. Moran Jr. (D-VA), Norm ***** (D-WA.), Marcy Kaptur (D-OH), C.W. Bill Young (R-FL.) and Todd Tiahrt (R-KS.). Of course rather than investigate this serious scandal, according to Roll Call House Democrats circled the wagons, "cobbling together a defense to offer political cover to their rank and file." The Washington Post also reported in 2009 that Murtha's nephew received $4 million in Defense Department no-bid contracts: "Newly obtained documents…show Robert Murtha mentioning his influential family connection as leverage in his business dealings and holding unusual power with the military."

10. Rep. Charles Rangel (D-NY): Rangel, the man in charge of writing tax policy for the entire country, has yet to adequately explain how he could possibly "forget" to pay taxes on $75,000 in rental income he earned from his off-shore rental property. He also faces allegations that he improperly used his influence to maintain ownership of highly coveted rent-controlled apartments in Harlem, and misused his congressional office to fundraise for his private Rangel Center by preserving a tax loophole for an oil drilling company in exchange for funding. On top of all that, Rangel recently amended his financial disclosure reports, which doubled his reported wealth. (He somehow "forgot" about $1 million in assets.) And what did he do when the House Ethics Committee started looking into all of this? He apparently resorted to making "campaign contributions" to dig his way out of trouble. According to WCBS TV, a New York CBS affiliate: "The reigning member of Congress' top tax committee is apparently 'wrangling' other politicos to get him out of his own financial and tax troubles...Since ethics probes began last year the 79-year-old congressman has given campaign donations to 119 members of Congress, including three of the five Democrats on the House Ethics Committee who are charged with investigating him." Charlie Rangel should not be allowed to remain in Congress, let alone serve as Chairman of the powerful House Ways and Means Committee, and he knows it. That's why he felt the need to disburse campaign contributions to Ethics Committee members and other congressional colleagues.

Derekkye's photo
Sat 05/01/10 10:58 PM
wanted by who?

msharmony's photo
Sun 05/02/10 12:17 AM
seems the paper trail leads back to a Richard Scaife,,,probably his personal least favorite politicians...

JustAGuy2112's photo
Sun 05/02/10 12:58 AM

seems the paper trail leads back to a Richard Scaife,,,probably his personal least favorite politicians...


Ah yes.

Completely discount the corruption in Obama's Whte House on the grounds of " least favorite " status.

Wow.

Just wow.

msharmony's photo
Sun 05/02/10 01:17 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 05/02/10 01:20 AM


seems the paper trail leads back to a Richard Scaife,,,probably his personal least favorite politicians...


Ah yes.

Completely discount the corruption in Obama's Whte House on the grounds of " least favorite " status.

Wow.

Just wow.



the question was 'wanted by who?' , not wanted for what reason


as for discounting corruption,, the whole paragraph about OBama was written as opinion with no FACTS to back it up,,so I imagine it supports the opinion of SOMEONE in charge,,

it seemed the simple honest answer,,,

willing2's photo
Sun 05/02/10 06:46 AM



seems the paper trail leads back to a Richard Scaife,,,probably his personal least favorite politicians...


Ah yes.

Completely discount the corruption in Obama's Whte House on the grounds of " least favorite " status.

Wow.

Just wow.



the question was 'wanted by who?' , not wanted for what reason


as for discounting corruption,, the whole paragraph about OBama was written as opinion with no FACTS to back it up,,so I imagine it supports the opinion of SOMEONE in charge,,

it seemed the simple honest answer,,,

If you go to the site, the highlighted links direct you to the proof to back up the statements.

willing2's photo
Sun 05/02/10 06:48 AM

wanted by who?

An advisory of the most corrupt politicians who need to be dumped and/or prosecuted.

Like Catholic Priests, they seem to be untouchable and above the law.slaphead

Seakolony's photo
Sun 05/02/10 08:41 AM
I bet that was a hard list make, betcha if they did a list of the ten most honest politician lits it would look like this.

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msharmony's photo
Sun 05/02/10 10:54 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 05/02/10 10:56 AM




seems the paper trail leads back to a Richard Scaife,,,probably his personal least favorite politicians...


Ah yes.

Completely discount the corruption in Obama's Whte House on the grounds of " least favorite " status.

Wow.

Just wow.



the question was 'wanted by who?' , not wanted for what reason


as for discounting corruption,, the whole paragraph about OBama was written as opinion with no FACTS to back it up,,so I imagine it supports the opinion of SOMEONE in charge,,

it seemed the simple honest answer,,,

If you go to the site, the highlighted links direct you to the proof to back up the statements.



the links are to other WH articles which are highly opinionated and not once TIE OBama to anything other than the United We Serve , which promotes community service(OH THOSE THUGS!) and the idea of diversity (OH PUT THEM IN JAIL< HOW DARE THEY!)

this article is highly opinionated(which is clear by use of words like czar, leftist radical, and propoganda machine) with little fact to validate the opinions...in my opinion

willing2's photo
Sun 05/02/10 10:58 AM





seems the paper trail leads back to a Richard Scaife,,,probably his personal least favorite politicians...


Ah yes.

Completely discount the corruption in Obama's Whte House on the grounds of " least favorite " status.

Wow.

Just wow.



the question was 'wanted by who?' , not wanted for what reason


as for discounting corruption,, the whole paragraph about OBama was written as opinion with no FACTS to back it up,,so I imagine it supports the opinion of SOMEONE in charge,,

it seemed the simple honest answer,,,

If you go to the site, the highlighted links direct you to the proof to back up the statements.



the links are to other WH articles which are highly opinionated and not once TIE OBama to anything other than the United We Serve , which promotes community service(OH THOSE THUGS!) and the idea of diversity (OH PUT THEM IN JAIL< HOW DARE THEY!)

this article is highly opinionated(which is clear by use of words like czar, leftist radical, and propoganda machine) with little fact to validate the opinions...in my opinion

OH YEAH?!?!rofl rofl rofl :thumbsup:

Lpdon's photo
Sun 05/02/10 11:06 AM

I bet that was a hard list make, betcha if they did a list of the ten most honest politician lits it would look like this.

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Isn't honest Polititian an Oxymoron? laugh

Lpdon's photo
Sun 05/02/10 11:09 AM
I would actually like to see the Republican Senator who not only helped Ensign cover up the affair but avised him to pay them off and make it go away. Then played doctor privlidges. I think it was Coburn?

Seakolony's photo
Mon 05/03/10 06:07 AM
Edited by Seakolony on Mon 05/03/10 06:09 AM


I bet that was a hard list make, betcha if they did a list of the ten most honest politician lits it would look like this.

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Isn't honest Polititian an Oxymoron? laugh

Absolutely my point!! They start out with all the idealistic opinion and theories in the world and then get corrupted by the system, money, sex, drugs and rock n roll, and then tell the citizens of the nation dont do this or you will pay a fine so we can, LMAO!! JK Not all of them, but whew recently and not even so recent behaviors prove throughout history. And just how did that 150 year old person in the graveyard actually make it to the polls anyhow?

msharmony's photo
Mon 05/03/10 07:02 AM
and with all the talk of scandal and ethics,,,only one SOLE republican politician on the list,,,lol

what of all the sex and sexual harassment scandals dogging the repub party,,,,? these threads are so often full of so much fearmongering , divisiveness, and gossip(repeated to seem factual)


why not have 'fair and balanced' fearmongering, divisiveness, and gossiping

one side isnt better or worse than the other and politicians arent more or less human (or capable of mistakes and failure) than the rest of us. The sooner voters become honest on those two points,, the better.

Seakolony's photo
Mon 05/03/10 07:04 AM



I bet that was a hard list make, betcha if they did a list of the ten most honest politician lits it would look like this.

1.
2.
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5.
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Isn't honest Polititian an Oxymoron? laugh

Absolutely my point!! They start out with all the idealistic opinion and theories in the world and then get corrupted by the system, money, sex, drugs and rock n roll, and then tell the citizens of the nation dont do this or you will pay a fine so we can, LMAO!! JK Not all of them, but whew recently and not even so recent behaviors prove throughout history. And just how did that 150 year old person in the graveyard actually make it to the polls anyhow?

I agree in my opinion it is all policticans all over!!

Lpdon's photo
Mon 05/03/10 06:49 PM
Edited by Lpdon on Mon 05/03/10 06:50 PM

and with all the talk of scandal and ethics,,,only one SOLE republican politician on the list,,,lol

what of all the sex and sexual harassment scandals dogging the repub party,,,,? these threads are so often full of so much fearmongering , divisiveness, and gossip(repeated to seem factual)


why not have 'fair and balanced' fearmongering, divisiveness, and gossiping

one side isnt better or worse than the other and politicians arent more or less human (or capable of mistakes and failure) than the rest of us. The sooner voters become honest on those two points,, the better.


Actually the Dems take the lead in this area...... Ted Kennedy murdering a girl and covering it up, Then the famous Ted Kennedy and Chris Dodd waitress sandwich sexual harassment incident, FDR and his mistress and hjis wife and her lover, John and Bobby Kennedy double teaming Marilyn Monroe, Bill Clinton and just about every woman he could find, Hillary Clinton and Vince Foster, Elliot Spitzer and his hookers, Jim Mcgreevey cheating on his wife with male staffers at seedy hotel rooms on the tax payers dime, Mayor Sam Adams of Portland having sex with underage boys.

Those right there trump any of the Republicans. Look at all the Presidents and first ladies tisk, tisk, tisk.

I have pages more.

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Mon 05/03/10 07:00 PM
Ron Paul is the only one I haven't heard about being bought. He even refused to participate retirement pension.

He's been attempting to get term limits set for years.

http://www.house.gov/paul/press/press97/prjan30.htm

Paul refuses to participate in "immoral" pension system.

Says fewer perks for congress will limit terms of politicians, save taxpayers money.

Thursday, January 30, 1997

For More Information:
Michael Quinn Sullivan
(202) 225-2831

WASHINGTON, DC - US Representative Ron Paul (R-TX) today reaffirmed his opposition to what he calls the "immoral" congressional pension system by refusing to participate in it. While serving in Congress from 1976 to 1984, Paul chose not to participate in the system, despite a taxpayer-funded pay-out which is more lucrative than any private system. He said high-dollar perks like the pension are areas that could be safely cut immediately, without hurting a single American taxpayer.

"The situation is even worse today than it was before," Paul said. "When I served in the late '70s and early '80s, the congressman had to actually write a letter to enter the program, I simply chose not to sign-up. Today, however, everyone is automatically placed in the system and house members are required to write a letter requesting that they not be included in the program."

After five years of service, a Member of Congress becomes vested in the system, with pay-off beginning at age 62, or pay-off begins at any age after 25 years of service. The five years can be either all in Congress, or added with other federal service, such as time in the military. If someone had 26 years of service, and depending on which of two systems they were under, a Member of Congress leaving office in 1994 could expect a yearly pension of between $52,800 and $86,000.

"This is one reason why so many politicians stay in Washington so long: they get a better retirement plan from the government than they could ever get from an honest job back home. We need to cut perks like this pension system completely; it is immoral that someone spend so much time in Congress that they even should think about getting retirement benefits. And then to expect those benefits to be paid by taxpayers at rates no citizen can ever hope to actually earn is even more unreasonable," said Paul. "There is a lot of talk about term limits, which I completely support, but if we are to seriously reform Congress, and return it to being a 'citizen-legislature,' then we must address these issues. Even the most strict term limits package currently being bandied about restricts members to six years in office, which of course vests them in the retirement system."

The Sufside, Texas, physician said that during a time when Congress is discussing ways to balance the budget and cut taxes, "a good place to start is right here on Capitol Hill, where we can help the taxpayers by not enriching ourselves at their expense."

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Mon 05/03/10 07:47 PM


and with all the talk of scandal and ethics,,,only one SOLE republican politician on the list,,,lol

what of all the sex and sexual harassment scandals dogging the repub party,,,,? these threads are so often full of so much fearmongering , divisiveness, and gossip(repeated to seem factual)


why not have 'fair and balanced' fearmongering, divisiveness, and gossiping

one side isnt better or worse than the other and politicians arent more or less human (or capable of mistakes and failure) than the rest of us. The sooner voters become honest on those two points,, the better.


Actually the Dems take the lead in this area...... Ted Kennedy murdering a girl and covering it up, Then the famous Ted Kennedy and Chris Dodd waitress sandwich sexual harassment incident, FDR and his mistress and hjis wife and her lover, John and Bobby Kennedy double teaming Marilyn Monroe, Bill Clinton and just about every woman he could find, Hillary Clinton and Vince Foster, Elliot Spitzer and his hookers, Jim Mcgreevey cheating on his wife with male staffers at seedy hotel rooms on the tax payers dime, Mayor Sam Adams of Portland having sex with underage boys.

Those right there trump any of the Republicans. Look at all the Presidents and first ladies tisk, tisk, tisk.

I have pages more.


well, most of your examples are the kennedy family,,lol,,but anyway
giving the HUGE benefit of the doubt that any of those examples have been proven,, I count,,,nine individuals with shady ethics,,,,so here we go,,,

John Ensign
John McCain
Rudy Guiliani
Bob Barr
Larry Craig
Debra Olsen
David Vitter
Randall Tobias
Paul Stanley


,,,see where this is heading,, I am really not interested in a tit for tat of each ethically questionable politician and their political affiliation,, I am just supporting my statement that one side is no better or worse than the other,,,

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Tue 05/04/10 12:17 AM



and with all the talk of scandal and ethics,,,only one SOLE republican politician on the list,,,lol

what of all the sex and sexual harassment scandals dogging the repub party,,,,? these threads are so often full of so much fearmongering , divisiveness, and gossip(repeated to seem factual)


why not have 'fair and balanced' fearmongering, divisiveness, and gossiping

one side isnt better or worse than the other and politicians arent more or less human (or capable of mistakes and failure) than the rest of us. The sooner voters become honest on those two points,, the better.


Actually the Dems take the lead in this area...... Ted Kennedy murdering a girl and covering it up, Then the famous Ted Kennedy and Chris Dodd waitress sandwich sexual harassment incident, FDR and his mistress and hjis wife and her lover, John and Bobby Kennedy double teaming Marilyn Monroe, Bill Clinton and just about every woman he could find, Hillary Clinton and Vince Foster, Elliot Spitzer and his hookers, Jim Mcgreevey cheating on his wife with male staffers at seedy hotel rooms on the tax payers dime, Mayor Sam Adams of Portland having sex with underage boys.

Those right there trump any of the Republicans. Look at all the Presidents and first ladies tisk, tisk, tisk.

I have pages more.


well, most of your examples are the kennedy family,,lol,,but anyway
giving the HUGE benefit of the doubt that any of those examples have been proven,, I count,,,nine individuals with shady ethics,,,,so here we go,,,

John Ensign
John McCain
Rudy Guiliani
Bob Barr
Larry Craig
Debra Olsen
David Vitter
Randall Tobias
Paul Stanley


,,,see where this is heading,, I am really not interested in a tit for tat of each ethically questionable politician and their political affiliation,, I am just supporting my statement that one side is no better or worse than the other,,,


Seriously? It is a well known fact that John and Robert Kennedy both were having an affair with Marilyn Monroe at the same time, among many other affiars. Don't forget the Kennedy family's history of Bootlegging and close friendships and relationships with the mafia, using the mafia and the mafia controlled labor unions to get John elected President. Without that, he wouldn't have won. The had very strong ties to Sam Giancona.

Ted Kennedy murdered Mary Jo Kopechne in 1969. THEN Ted Kennedy and Chris Dodd in 1985, Kennedy straddled a waitress who was sitting on Dodd's lap, rubbing his crotch against hers. Two years later, he came back for seconds: A different waitress walked in on Kennedy and a lobbyist having sex in a private room upstairs.The first incident of the sandwich almost led to charges for both Senators.

It is another well known fact that FDR was having an affair with a married woman named Lucy Mercer Rutherfurd(His wifes social secretary) which some of the leisons were arranged by his own daughter Ann. He also had an affair with his secretary Missy LeHand.

His wife Eleanor had an affair with a FEMALE reporter named Lorena Hickok, and even wore jewlrey that Hickok would buy her to major events for her husband. nShe also had an affair with her personal bodyguard and friend of her husband, Earl Miller. She was also intimate with her doctor David Gurewitsch.

Lets see then there was Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky, Gennifer Flowers, Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey, Juanita Broaddrick (who also said he raped her 20 years prior), Elizabeth Ward Gracen, Sally Perdue, and Dolly Kyle he even aqpologized to Hillary in person for the affair).

It is a well known fact that Hillary was sexually involved with Vincent Foster, a long time friend of Hillary's while they werkd at the Law Firm.

Elliot Spitzer spent over $15,000 on prostitutes while Governor. Mostly with Ashley Alexandra Dupré. It was also learned that he spent over $80,000 on prostitutes while servinbg as the Attorney General. Ironically one of Spitzers top priority was prosecutiong prostitution, hipocrite. He was married the whole time. He made a deal to resign from office in order not to face charges.

New Jersey Governor (who was married) was having affairs with his male staffers. First was Golan Cipel, a long time male friend. He was hired as his Home Land Security Advisor(he had no experience and couldn't pass the Federal check). McGreevey's own mother caught them and McGreevy admitted everything to his mother. He then resigned from office before being kicked out. He also admitted on national TV that he was a gay American with his wife and male lover standing next to him. His wife didn't know until the story broke.

Then theres Mayor Same Adams who is facing charges for having sex with an underage staffer.

Since you need more convincing....

New York Goivernor admitted after he took office that both he and his wife both had affairs and he has used illegal drugs including cocaine in the past.

Rep. Gary Condit became the subject of national news coverage after the May 1 disappearance of Chandra Levy, a young woman working as a Washington, D.C. intern originally from Condit's district. Police questioned him twice, and Condit denied having an affair with her; however, after Levy's aunt went public with conversations she had had with her missing niece about the adulterous liaison, police questioned him a third time, and Condit confessed to the relationship. When the affair began, Condit was 53 and Levy was 23. Another fun fact, Condit is a suspect in her dissapearance and murder.

Rep Barney Frank's personal assistant, Stephen Gobie, was charged with a felony for running a prostitution business out of Frank's apartment. After the charges were made public, Frank disclosed that he had paid Gobie for sex. In 1990, he was reprimanded by the House for abetting the dismissal of Gobie's parking tickets.

Then theres Senator Gary Hart. Immediately after announcing his 1988 bid for the presidency, Hart was besieged by rumors that he was having extramarital affairs. Eventually, Miami Herald reporters staked out Hart's residence and caught Donna Rice going in and emerging the next morning. The revelation killed Hart's chances of winning the Democratic nomination and ended his political career.

How about John Edwards who cheated on his dying wife and kjnocked up his mistress. Then not only lied about it but illegally paid her to keep quiet using campaign funds and also paying a married aide to admit the baby was his instead of Edwards.

How about Congressman Wayne Hays. In May 1976, the Washington Post broke the story quoting Elizabeth Ray, Hays's former secretary, saying that Hays hired her on his staff, and later gave her a raise to be part of the staff of the House Administration Committee, for two years in order to serve as his mistress. Hays had divorced his first wife of 38 years just months prior, and married his veteran Ohio office secretary, Pat Peak, in early 1976, shortly before the scandal broke. Ostensibly a secretary, Ray admitted: "I can't type. I can't file. I can't even answer the phone.'" She even "let a reporter listen in as the Ohio congressman told her on the phone that his recent marriage (to another former secretary) would not affect their arrangement." Time Magazine reported, "Liz chose to tell her story after Hays decided to marry Pat Peak and did not invite her. "I was good enough to be his mistress for two years but not good enough to be invited to his wedding" she pouted." Three days later, Hays admitted to most of the allegations on the House floor, denying only "that Miss Ray's federal salary was awarded solely for sexual services. She was not, insisted Hays, "hired to be my mistress." He resigned as chairman of Committee on House Administration on June 18, 1976, and then resigned from Congress on September 1, 1976.

Congressman John Jenrette and his wife, Rita, had sex on the Capitol steps, giving new meaning to the word filibuster. Also Jenrette was charged and convicted of accepting bribes as a Congressman.

How about Congressman Wilbur Mills. In 1974, Mills' political career cratered when a stripper jumped out of his car and dove into Washington's murky Tidal Basin after police pulled Mills over. The married Mills had been cavorting with the "Argentine Firecracker" for more than a year. He would later leave Congress after being spotted in a Boston strip club.

Bill Clinton strategist Dick Morris discussed White House affairs while sucking on a prostitute's toes at the Jefferson. Morris resigned the same day Clinton was renominated at the Democratic Convention.

I also still have more if you want.

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Tue 05/04/10 12:18 AM
That shows that one side IS definately worse then the other.

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