lol, at 'well known facts' well if we must,, we are going back to the seventies AND including staff of...?

I think I counted thirteen this time,,,,sigh,, so here we go...


1.* Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a “good military man” and “church goer,” was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison

2.* Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.

3. Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.

4.Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.

5.* Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media

6.Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.

7. Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.

8. Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.

9. Don Sherwood, Republican member of the U.S. House of Representatives. Eventually admitted to an affar with a woman 30 years younger than him, after she accused him of physical abuse and attempting to choke her.

10.Ed Schrock, two-term republican congressman, with a 92% approval rating from the Christian Coalition. Cosponsor of the Federal Marriage Amendment, consistently opposed gay rights. Married, with wife and kids. Withdrew his candidacy for a third term after tapes of him soliciting for gay sex were circulated.

11. Jeff Miller, (R-Cleveland), Senate Republican Caucus Chairman in Tennessee and the sponsor of Tennessee’s Marriage Protection act, getting divorced (as of April 2005) because of an affair he was having with an office aid. Miller described the Tennessee Marriage Protection Act as a means of preserving the sanctity of marriage. He opposed an amendment, however, which stated that “Adultery is deemed to be a threat to the institution of marriage and contrary to public policy in Tennessee.

12. Henry Hyde, Judge who oversaw Clinton’s impeachment proceedings, prominent opponent of reproductive rights, who had an extramarital affair with a woman who was married and had three children, during the course of which she and her husband were divorced

13. Dan Crane, Republican Congressman, married, father of six. Received a 100% “Morality Rating” from Christian Voice. Had sex with a minor working as a congressional page. On July 20, the House voted for censure Crane, the first time that censure had been imposed for sexual misconduct



the pages of infidelity and alternative lifestyles could fit PAGES of text on both sides,,,trust me here,, lets not keep wasting space on this thread,,,

I put several Presidents and two deaths, three if you count monroe and you lost councilmen? LOL

wow,, sad,, u REALLY want to do tit for tat....smh

actual names of unethical PRESIDENTS
James Garfield, Warren Harding, Richard Nixon

u listed ALLEGED ties to deaths , I listed actual ENDITEMENTS for sex with minors,,,, as I said,, the unethical are equally represented by both sides,,

Allegid ties to death???? Really? Ted Kennedy wasn't tied to the death of Mary Jo? You can't be serious. Also Condit FAILED a lie detector test on his incident. I don't even post the list of deaths attributed to the Clinton's, including the murder of Vincent Foster.

back to the point,,,ethics are questionable on both sides of the fence,,,kennedy was in a car accident and left the scene,, that was the charge,,,lie detector tests arent admissible in court for a reason, deaths attributed to Clinton would certainly shadow those behind this war initiated on false premises by Bush

I dont harp on either side, but Im realistic that neither holds a monopoly on questionable ethics

You can't just name 2 just roll all of them up into 1 big ball and call it good. All politicians are corrupt..