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Topic: THE POWER OF COLLECTIVE CONSCIOUSNESS
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Sun 04/11/10 12:01 AM
Ever wonder Why most (if not all) of Natural Disasters tend to happen more frequently at the poorest areas of the world???

Apparently, those areas, where most of the population is suffering from various social and economic misfortunes, are affected the most by the society's general outcry (and damnations)!!! That, in turn, creates various geodesic turbulences, or accidents. {as though Earth reacts to those damnations)!

For that reason, the popular "scare stories" -- as, for instance, that of "2012" -- are very dangerous:
_____ if enough people believe it, that might (and probably will) invoke some tragic events!!! (as if justifying those rumours)

We, humans, are affecting reality much more than we realize!!!

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Sun 04/11/10 12:37 AM
Edited by Ladylid2012 on Sun 04/11/10 12:59 AM
Absolutely agree that we create our world, our reality. Our thoughts are very powerful...self fulfilled prophecy.

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Sun 04/11/10 01:05 AM
What that blarbs about.To speack out,organized yours idea at first,PLEASE.

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Sun 04/11/10 01:09 AM
Knowledges of balance will help...if you wish.Best regards.

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Sun 04/11/10 05:48 AM

Ever wonder Why most (if not all) of Natural Disasters tend to happen more frequently at the poorest areas of the world???

Apparently, those areas, where most of the population is suffering from various social and economic misfortunes, are affected the most by the society's general outcry (and damnations)!!! That, in turn, creates various geodesic turbulences, or accidents. {as though Earth reacts to those damnations)!

For that reason, the popular "scare stories" -- as, for instance, that of "2012" -- are very dangerous:
_____ if enough people believe it, that might (and probably will) invoke some tragic events!!! (as if justifying those rumours)

We, humans, are affecting reality much more than we realize!!!


Whaaaaaaaa ... ? 'The THOUGHT is father to the DEED' ... ? Thinking about something MAKES it happen ... ? Ummmmm ... not so much. This is what's known as 'magical thinking'. BO-OH-OH-OHHHH-GUS. Thinking don't make it so. In the '80s, the 'sensitive and aware' community was certain that the 'grand alignment of the planets' (all the planets in a straight line with the sun) would cause gravity to rip the world apart. I think we're still here. Sorry, but no cigar for this one ...

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Sun 04/11/10 11:08 AM
California earthquakes ... hurricanes throughout the years along the east coast and Florida and Louisiana, Texas ... blizzards in the north ... the U.S. generally is not considered one of the "poorest areas of the world" yet we have our natural disasters as well.

I'm failing to see the connection here ...

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Sun 04/11/10 12:11 PM
Why am I reminded of Pat Robertson?

huh

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Sun 04/11/10 01:01 PM
oh dear!!!.... I could SO comment on the US not one of the poorest areas in the world....shocked surprised


**removes tongue from cheek and mischeivious twinkle from eye**

Jane, there is much to be said in regards to collective consciousness, and the old 'careful what you wish for' sayings...

I see it often here...people wishing it would rain....wishing, willing, threatening, pushing....then it does...for months and months...then the whole wish it would stop...demanding it stops...and BINGO!! a really cool drought for years appears...

I chuckle away and suggest that when wishing so forcefully...BE SPECIFIC..(sure rain would be good...about 3 inches a night for a month would be wonderful...etc etc etc...)

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Sun 04/11/10 01:26 PM


Ever wonder Why most (if not all) of Natural Disasters tend to happen more frequently at the poorest areas of the world???

Apparently, those areas, where most of the population is suffering from various social and economic misfortunes, are affected the most by the society's general outcry (and damnations)!!! That, in turn, creates various geodesic turbulences, or accidents. {as though Earth reacts to those damnations)!

For that reason, the popular "scare stories" -- as, for instance, that of "2012" -- are very dangerous:
_____ if enough people believe it, that might (and probably will) invoke some tragic events!!! (as if justifying those rumours)

We, humans, are affecting reality much more than we realize!!!


Whaaaaaaaa ... ? 'The THOUGHT is father to the DEED' ... ? Thinking about something MAKES it happen ... ? Ummmmm ... not so much. This is what's known as 'magical thinking'. BO-OH-OH-OHHHH-GUS. Thinking don't make it so. In the '80s, the 'sensitive and aware' community was certain that the 'grand alignment of the planets' (all the planets in a straight line with the sun) would cause gravity to rip the world apart. I think we're still here. Sorry, but no cigar for this one ...


Still think were all separate, that our actions don't affect others,
that our thoughts aren't energy....still think we didn't vibrate how much we wanted changes and now were getting them??

Humm, amazing to me how some can be so closed minded...

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Sun 04/11/10 01:34 PM
Edited by misterwiggly on Sun 04/11/10 01:34 PM
let me welcome you to my reality folks, where I say:

Poppycock, all this collective consciousness BS is and has been based on the 100th Monkey theroy proffered by the likes of Dr. Wayne Dyer, which was entirely misrepresented to the gullible public according to the very Japanese scientist's notes and data that conducted the study.

Don't believe everything ya hear on Coast to Coast radio.....

misterwiggly noway

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Sun 04/11/10 01:54 PM
spock

am so glad my collective consciousness aint remotely anywhere near the man with the hundred monkeys on his coast to coast radio....perhaps the whole crankypants rambly ranty reality is to do with being related to a pigglywiggly???


**scratches head and raises eyebrow**spock

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Sun 04/11/10 02:47 PM
Edited by massagetrade on Sun 04/11/10 02:48 PM
This reminds me of the 'cellular memory' meme-family. The problem is, the label "collective consciousness" is not used with precision nor consistency.

Sometimes it is used in reference to real phenomena, and sometimes it is used in reference to complete BS, and many people don't discriminate between the separate uses of the umbrella term.

Its pretty clear to me that a sports team might perform better when they believe they will win, than when they believe they will lose. This has nothing to do with magic or the supernatural.


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Sun 04/11/10 02:56 PM
I am not a believer in "mass consciousness", but the psychology of crowds is well documented and quite interesting.

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Mon 04/12/10 01:28 AM
Edited by JaneStar1 on Mon 04/12/10 01:41 AM
Thank you, Ladylid2012, Jess642, and heavenlyboy34!!!

Unfortunately, the rest of you, guys, are too backward to comprehend!
100th Monkey theroy, Coast to Coast radio..... what What the fux are you talking about, misterwiggly??? noway I do not pollute my mind with your favorite sources of information! (and, please, spear me from your reality!!!)

I'm referring to a multitude of people, (a crowd), united with the common goal, will, or desperation, which amplifies the crowd's total power (and, therefore, the resolve)!

The only reason it isn't SO evident in the developed countries is because of the system of Social Welfare which fosters the people's dependency on the goverment and, thus, prevents them from banding together into groups (i.e. crowds) with the common object of damnation.
Otherwise, "natural desasters" would be much more frequent! * * *

P.S. Svetla, I wish you learn how to spell before venturing into the discussion!

CS, I know its your favourite TV program, but you've gotta force yourself -- quit watching Pat Robertson so that you won't be reminded of him by whatever you see!!! :laughing:


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Mon 04/12/10 10:45 AM
Well, then I guess the true test would be to take away social welfare in the U.S. and try it out to be sure? Good luck with that.

Its illogical to consider natural disasters (being NATURAL as they are) to be caused by any kind of mass HUMAN consciousness, rather than perhaps mass human pollution or mass human tampering. This thread would make a lot more sense in that domain.

There's also mass hypnosis ... like that which occurs during many religious gatherings and sports stadiums across the world and makes sense because its people affecting PEOPLE. People can affect the state of other peoples' moods when a large enough group is together, but impacting the environment with mere thought? This jumps into the realm of silly.

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Mon 04/12/10 09:34 PM
Edited by JaneStar1 on Mon 04/12/10 09:35 PM
Certainly, I realize the idea -- a single person impacting the environment with mere thought -- sounds silly (at first). But I'm referring to a large crowd of people -- 5-6,000!!! (if not more)

I think the phenomenon is well known to scientists (although not widely popularized).

We are more powerful than we're aware of !!!

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Mon 04/12/10 09:38 PM
There are plenty of good geological and climactic reasons. Those regions you speak of actually have plenty of commodity wealth-they just have a backwards, substandard system of production and distribution. This is why Saudi royals live like kings or robber-barons while the average person lives live an ancient sand person.

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Mon 04/12/10 09:49 PM
Thanx for supporting my goal, I think. However, I fail to see the connection to the political economy!!!

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Mon 04/12/10 09:51 PM

This reminds me of the 'cellular memory' meme-family. The problem is, the label "collective consciousness" is not used with precision nor consistency.

Sometimes it is used in reference to real phenomena, and sometimes it is used in reference to complete BS, and many people don't discriminate between the separate uses of the umbrella term.

Its pretty clear to me that a sports team might perform better when they believe they will win, than when they believe they will lose. This has nothing to do with magic or the supernatural.


Bingo! Thank you for a moment of clarity in this otherwise turgid set of responses. 'Feel-good' is NOT science, but some people will eat whatever breadcrumbs of 'knowledge' the Man Behind The Curtain puts in their begging bowl.

No matter how many people 'concentrate' on a single thought (yeah, like THAT's a possibility when y' consider how long just TWO people can hold the same thought), it will NOT magically cause hurricanes, earthquakes, a plague of locusts, lightning from the sky, or the first-born of a particular belief system to die in their cribs. There's reality, and there's 'coincidence'. They're separate - and one is NOT causal of the other.

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Mon 04/12/10 10:01 PM


This reminds me of the 'cellular memory' meme-family. The problem is, the label "collective consciousness" is not used with precision nor consistency.

Sometimes it is used in reference to real phenomena, and sometimes it is used in reference to complete BS, and many people don't discriminate between the separate uses of the umbrella term.

Its pretty clear to me that a sports team might perform better when they believe they will win, than when they believe they will lose. This has nothing to do with magic or the supernatural.


Bingo! Thank you for a moment of clarity in this otherwise turgid set of responses. 'Feel-good' is NOT science, but some people will eat whatever breadcrumbs of 'knowledge' the Man Behind The Curtain puts in their begging bowl.

No matter how many people 'concentrate' on a single thought (yeah, like THAT's a possibility when y' consider how long just TWO people can hold the same thought), it will NOT magically cause hurricanes, earthquakes, a plague of locusts, lightning from the sky, or the first-born of a particular belief system to die in their cribs. There's reality, and there's 'coincidence'. They're separate - and one is NOT causal of the other.



I guess you don't meditate....

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