Topic: THE POWER OF COLLECTIVE CONSCIOUSNESS
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Sat 04/17/10 01:49 PM
Edited by SkyHook5652 on Sat 04/17/10 01:54 PM

I'm well aware of the fact that "working class" people hate the expression "Master/Servant". However, it's taken out of the intended context. I urge you go back and verify:
". After all, all of the advances the modern humanity's accomplished on its own (i.e. without an "outside help", like our ancestors that must've been bestowed with the ability). Its just that they have been more powerful in the realm of "selective spirituality" -- a gift passed on from generation to generation only among the "selected" few" (i.e. "gifted"} families of "Masters", while the rest of the population has been subservant to those "Masters" (and their "close associates").

As you can see, "Master" has nothing to do with the distribution of the material wealth (i.e. poor/rich), but with possession of the intellectual capacity!!! explode frustrated frustrated frustrated
Jane, it's call a strawman argument. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman) And yes, it can be very frustrating.

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Sat 04/17/10 07:01 PM
Thax, Sky, though the exact technical name of an insult doesn't make any less frustrating! Yet, I'm amazed at the audacity of some miserable people who dare assuming they understand anything!
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Sat 04/17/10 10:32 PM
Edited by JaneStar1 on Sat 04/17/10 10:40 PM
___________________STRANGE SUSPICION___________________
Remember the mythological story about the Tower of Babylon? How God panished people for trying to build a tower to the skies -- by dispersing them and taking away their ability of understand each other... Not only that, seems like they have also been deprived of the ability to co-operate -- by depriving them of a certain mental power:

As confirmed by scientists, consciousness is missing the link that allows quantum links to be maintained over time and transfer information (i.e. the telepathic ability).

The fact some people possess the ESP capabilities, indicates that at one time such an ability must 've been quite wide spread. but now only hapens on a singular basis.

I believe we will regain that capability again, at some point in time...
The question is HOW SOON? ? ?


P.S. When somebody's mentioned "the lack of co-operation among people" as the reason for our misfortunes, I disregarded the comment as a socialistic delirium! But in view of ther former idea, the latter one may not be so delirious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Mon 05/10/10 11:03 PM
Some people are too wise (and, possibly, chauvenistic) to appreciate the courage of thoughts that are unbounded by generally accepted theories. In fact, that's not because they are just being realistic. On the contrary, they're simply too mediocre -- holding on to the generally accepted knowlwdge, and waiting for "others" (i.e. researchers) to show them what's possible!!!

Creative ideas always encounter violent opposition from Mediocre minds
(Einstein)

misterwiggly, donthatoneguy, Kings_Knight, s1owhand, anybodyelseImissed -- hey there, "wise" guys!

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Tue 05/11/10 09:31 AM
Heart goes out to the people in haiti

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Tue 05/11/10 02:32 PM
Edited by Seakolony on Tue 05/11/10 02:36 PM
1- The Myan and Aztec communities did not believe in endings only big change, so what they are indicating is a big change of life as it is now.
2- your statement makes zero sense, plenty of natural disasters happen all around the world to both poor and wealthier countries. Sometimes, when disasters happen in the US, we give less help at home than we give to the poorer countries. We are not immune to poverty in the US. We have homeless, hungry people in the US too.
3- I do believe that people are capable of projecting their own positive and neagtive thoughts into the world with positive and negative consequences for each type of thinking and projections.

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Tue 05/11/10 10:31 PM
your statement makes zero sense???

I beg your pardon, honey, but what particular statement are you referring to??? -- there have been so many already!

The Myan and Aztec communities? I forgot I mentioned them. DID I ???

May be your referring to Natural disasters?
Well, you should be familiar with statistics in your line of work, no? In that case, comparing the frequency of US disasters -- most of which are "man-made" anyway -- with the Natural disasters around the world IS like comparing a "male reproductive organ" with the finger!!! laugh

Sounds like you've never left the US -- to live for a while in a poor country where there are no poor quartes because the whole country is a "poor quarter"!!!

In that sense, even a "Zero sense" is too much for you -- more like -5!!!
However, you've managed to earn some points back with your 3rd paragraph -- for agreeing with me -- exactly 5.01!!!
Thus, your total score is 0.01 which is better than zero...

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Wed 05/12/10 01:18 PM
I have visited poor countries, and yes I have been out of the US. And dont call me sweetheart!! I am very intelligent and complete sentences might make your OP more understandable. You indicated an end in 2012, which is based on theories of the Mayan and Aztec calendars. Do some research instead of mumbling things that make no sense. Become educated that should help you a little bit, then maybe you can hang with the big kids!!

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Wed 05/12/10 04:55 PM
Edited by JaneStar1 on Wed 05/12/10 05:01 PM
Look, honey, for an intelligent person, you sure don't make much sense:
1. Until you mentioned it, nobody's complained about any "INCOMPLETE sentences" in my OP!

2. For an educated person, you sure lack the reading comprehension:
the only reason I mentioned the foolish fears of 2012 was becasuse I said
if enough people believe it, that might (and probably will) invoke some tragic events!!! (as if justifying those rumours)


3. I didn't suggest you visit the poor countries! I said
to live for a while in a poor country
-- and not stay at the 5-stars hotel, but circulate among the country's residents!

4. You must be confusing me with Everybody else, who call you "sweetheart", because I never did!!! (unless you can quote me!)

5. I don't advertise my credentials because, contrary to you, I don't have to resort to the internet for the purpose of looking for a partner! laugh For the same reason, I don't list all of my accomplishments and education which I have more than you do!!! I'm here strictly for the philosophycal discussion!!! And you can tell that just by examining a few of the topigs that I have already posted!

P.S.
As I mentioned previously, -5 points, though you earn 0.01 points for agreeing with me in the 3rd paragraph of your OP!

I'd recommend you widen the scope of your interests and do some research before, as you said, "mumbling things that make no sense"!!!


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Wed 05/12/10 05:31 PM
It can be hard to comprehend something that is not clear and concise, maybe you should have said that in the OP. and I am not your sweetheart, I consider that a terrible thing to say to someone you do not even know. Just try to please make it more concise to get at your meaning. And your points systen is quite ridiculous. The end, definitely wont be back to anything u post in. Collectively is not even a possibility since it does not seem anyone can agree on anything anyways, so how could anything become collective?

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Wed 05/12/10 06:31 PM
Edited by JaneStar1 on Wed 05/12/10 06:34 PM

It can be hard to comprehend something that is not clear and concise, maybe you should have said that in the OP.

Once again, except of you, honey, nobody's complained about the style of my disclosure. (And there are a few of the respondents whose intellectual level supercedes your's and mine put together!!!)

I am not your sweetheart, I consider that a terrible thing to say to someone you do not even know.

I agree with you adsolutely!!! Except I never called you that! Why would I?

Just try to please make it more concise to get at your meaning.

Sorry to disappoint you, but if you don't comprehend something, its much wiser requesting clarifications, rather than accusing the OP of being a fool!
The end, definitely wont be back to anything u post in.
what

Collectively is not even a possibility since it does not seem anyone can agree on anything anyways, so how could anything become collective?

You must have missed the subsequent discussion, where I clearly state:
I'm referring to a multitude of people, (a greate mass of people), united with the common goal, will, or desperation, which amplifies the crowd's total power (and, therefore, the resolve)!

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Thu 05/13/10 02:07 PM

Some people are too wise (and, possibly, chauvenistic) to appreciate the courage of thoughts that are unbounded by generally accepted theories.


There is no courage in completely abandoning evidence; only laziness and attachment to delusions.

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Thu 05/13/10 02:41 PM
Eistein once said:
Creative ideas have always encountered violant opposition from the mediocre minds!

Why? Because the latter ones are too lazy to verify the unorthodox validity of the former ones!

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Fri 05/14/10 08:20 PM


Ever wonder Why most (if not all) of Natural Disasters tend to happen more frequently at the poorest areas of the world???

Apparently, those areas, where most of the population is suffering from various social and economic misfortunes, are affected the most by the society's general outcry (and damnations)!!! That, in turn, creates various geodesic turbulences, or accidents. {as though Earth reacts to those damnations)!

For that reason, the popular "scare stories" -- as, for instance, that of "2012" -- are very dangerous:
_____ if enough people believe it, that might (and probably will) invoke some tragic events!!! (as if justifying those rumours)

We, humans, are affecting reality much more than we realize!!!


Whaaaaaaaa ... ? 'The THOUGHT is father to the DEED' ... ? Thinking about something MAKES it happen ... ? Ummmmm ... not so much. This is what's known as 'magical thinking'. BO-OH-OH-OHHHH-GUS. Thinking don't make it so. In the '80s, the 'sensitive and aware' community was certain that the 'grand alignment of the planets' (all the planets in a straight line with the sun) would cause gravity to rip the world apart. I think we're still here. Sorry, but no cigar for this one ...



You would be wrong then. All things manifest from thought forms. Of course you have no idea how to measure thought forms or their effects so you cannot possibly know how this happens. There are always opposing forces and opposing thought forms and they are always pulling in opposition to each other. That is the balance of yin and yang.


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Fri 05/14/10 08:23 PM

Why am I reminded of Pat Robertson?

huh


Pat Robertson is a scary man. I want to scream every time I flip channels and see his face. I cringe when he opens his mouth. I can't turn the channel fast enough. If I had a pistol I would shoot the television.:angry: mad sick


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Fri 05/14/10 08:25 PM


This reminds me of the 'cellular memory' meme-family. The problem is, the label "collective consciousness" is not used with precision nor consistency.

Sometimes it is used in reference to real phenomena, and sometimes it is used in reference to complete BS, and many people don't discriminate between the separate uses of the umbrella term.

Its pretty clear to me that a sports team might perform better when they believe they will win, than when they believe they will lose. This has nothing to do with magic or the supernatural.


Bingo! Thank you for a moment of clarity in this otherwise turgid set of responses. 'Feel-good' is NOT science, but some people will eat whatever breadcrumbs of 'knowledge' the Man Behind The Curtain puts in their begging bowl.

No matter how many people 'concentrate' on a single thought (yeah, like THAT's a possibility when y' consider how long just TWO people can hold the same thought), it will NOT magically cause hurricanes, earthquakes, a plague of locusts, lightning from the sky, or the first-born of a particular belief system to die in their cribs. There's reality, and there's 'coincidence'. They're separate - and one is NOT causal of the other.



And there will always be people like you who sleep better at night believing that.

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Fri 05/14/10 09:52 PM
Edited by JaneStar1 on Fri 05/14/10 10:27 PM
Well, as you can see, some people do comprehend what the Collective Consciousness is about!!! While some others pretend to be in violent opposition to the idea! [I would not call them names -- Eistein described them precisely (as noted previously)!]

The reason I say they pretend to be is cuz deep inside they know I'm right, but are too shy (or short-sighted and unimaginable) for dirrect support!
That's perfectly fine. If some people prefer wearing blinders (like the horses -- to prevent them from being scared), who's preventing them? But I'm surprised at their lack of shame -- posting discreditary comments, thereby publicly discrediting themselves!!! laugh
Though even according to Einstein, "Imagination is more important than the reality", but those falks prefer waiting for the scietific community to open their eyes and realize that "2*2=4"!!!

Well, to each his own! (i.e. light to those who can see, and darkness to the blind)

P.S. Thank you, Jeannie!

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Sat 05/15/10 01:27 AM
Edited by JaneStar1 on Sat 05/15/10 01:28 AM
For those wearing blinders, here's a hint (i.e. "2*2=4" you need to alter your mediocre thinking):

In 1980, the Princeton Engineering Anomalies Research (PEAR) lab began studying how focused group intention and attention – or “field consciousness"-- influence events! Research about collective consciousness suggests that we influence each other in many subtle, yet powerful ways, and that our collective wisdom and creativity can be harnessed for the common good much more than we do presently.

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Sat 05/15/10 01:46 AM
The concept that WE create our world... we as in one consciousness because we are all one connected to each other and that our world is a reflection of us, is not such an outrageous idea. I'm not understanding why this is so ridiculous to so many. Maybe I'm just weird, but it makes perfect sense to me. The notion that we are separate will be our downfall...

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Sat 05/15/10 02:00 AM
Not sure about everybody (i.e. "us"), but certainly a downfall of those who wear blinders!!!