I've seen a number of women posting about the "crap" or "bullsh!t" they have to put up with from men, but I've never understood what it is. I'm curious to learn if it's something that's simply the nature of men, like not even seeing a mess, or if it's something else.

So please ladies, explain to me exactly what this BS is you have to put up with from so many men.

I'm surprised the crap hasn't hit the fan on this one yet.

I'm not sure what they mean. Gotta feeling it might not be exclusively a male thing, though...seems to me crap is one of those things that both men and women can pitch equally well. Maybe it is just that the women are more 'vocal' about the crap they get from men?

Here's hoping everyone one has a less crappy evening...

I read this and couldn't come up with any BS or crap either----is there something wrong with me??? Maybe I missed it!

i think it's probably similar to the 'drama' that some men label us women as having.

You know, I have never complained about the way any woman behaved in any relationship I've been sense high school. I accept them unconditionally as they are. If it's something I can live with, I never mention it. If it's not, I leave. The only thing I've ever left a woman over was drugs.

When I've mentioned I prefer dating women in their early 20s a number of women have said it's because these women will "put up with your crap." What crap are they talking about? I don't think I put out any crap for a woman to have to put up with. If I do I'm curous to learn what it is.

Is it that men don't even notice the mess he's made in the kitchen?

Is it that we don't clean as well as many women think we should and you have to follow after us and do it again?

Is it that we sometimes forget to bring home the milk even after you reminded us?

I put away the fan.

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what's that you said about not complaining?

You are taking me out of context. I have NEVER COMPLAINED TO A WOMAN I'M IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH ABOUT THE WAY SHE BEHAVES. I do however complain that women (in general) complain so much.

I was thinking about that.

well these women are also using the words crap and bullsh1t in a general sense too, aren't they?

what's good for the goose is good for the gander no?

He did say "in a relationship" and the thread was about a woman he was just starting to date so to be fair it is two different situations

Are you sure?

When the crap hits the fan I step around it & move on. I don't care to beat the dead horse & stir up the flies.

It's in the basement for the winter.

Ah but it's fun to watch it land on someone else.

Alright. so let's put a point on it then. If women cannot tell men what we are doing wrong how can men improve and become better at pleasing our women?

Is it cheating? Lying? Abuse? Is it that we simply don't see the mess we've just made? Is it that we forgot to bring home milk yet again?

My only complaint about women is that women complain so much about what seems to me to be nothing. This makes me (and I'm sure a lot of other men) think that women need to have drama in their lives. Women need to feel the emotional roller coaster and then feel her man's stability through it.

Am I right?

NO

Would you care to elucidate?

Better go and check.