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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03/04/obama-aides-recom  Photo purporting to show Khalid Sheik Mohammed in detention at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. (AP) Top advisers to President Obama are close to a decision recommending that the self-proclaimed mastermind of the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks be prosecuted in a military tribunal, The Washington Post reported Friday, citing unnamed administration officials. According to the report, the president's advisers have grown increasingly wary of bipartisan opposition to the planned civilian federal trial in New York City, mere blocks from where nearly 3,000 Americans were killed in the spectacular attack on the World Trade Center. White House officials told Fox News that no final decision has been made. The administration has been considering tribunals for the alleged Sept. 11 attack plotters for several weeks. At issue is both the location of the planned trial and the venue. New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg and prominent state Democrats, who initially embraced Attorney General Eric Holder's decision to try Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and four other conspirators in Manhattan, have since reversed their support for the trial in New York. The paper said administration officials are privately bracing for backlash from disappointed liberals and some government lawyers should Obama reverse his decision to try the detainees in civilian courts. |
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Yeah, right ... I wanna see what he does when THIS traitor hits our shores ... I'm takin' bets on how long it'll take to get him 'Mirandized' (if he hasn't been already) ... this coulda been solved overseas with two to the chest and one to the head ... but NOOOOOOOO ...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_pakistan_al_qaida_arrest Officers: Pakistan arrests American-born al-Qaida By ASHRAF KHAN, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 3 mins ago KARACHI, Pakistan – The American-born spokesman for al-Qaida has been arrested by Pakistani intelligence officers in the southern city of Karachi, two officers and a government official said Sunday, the same day Adam Gadahn appeared in a video urging U.S. Muslims to attack their own country. The arrest of Gadahn is a major victory in the U.S.-led battle against al-Qaida and will be taken as a sign that Pakistan, criticized in the past for being an untrustworthy ally, is cooperating more fully with Washington. It follows the recent detentions of several Afghan Taliban commanders in Karachi, including the movement's No. 2 commander. Gadahn has appeared in more than half a dozen al-Qaida videos, taunting and threatening the West and calling for its destruction. A U.S. court charged Gadahn with treason in 2006, making him the first American to face such a charge in more than 50 years. He was arrested in the sprawling southern metropolis of Karachi in recent days, two officers who took part in the operation said. A senior government official also confirmed the arrest, but said it happened Sunday. The discrepancy could not immediately be resolved. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to release the information. The intelligence officials said Gadahn was being interrogated by Pakistani officials. Pakistani agents and those from the CIA work closely on some operations in Pakistan, but it was not clear if any Americans were involved in the operation or questioning. In the past, Pakistan has handed over some al-Qaida suspects arrested on its soil to the United States. Gadahn grew up on a goat farm in Riverside County, California, and converted to Islam at a mosque in nearby Orange County. His most recent video was posted Sunday, praising the U.S. Army major charged with killing 13 people in Fort Hood, Texas, as a role model for other Muslims. The video released Sunday appeared to have been made after the end of the year, but it was unclear exactly when. "You shouldn't make the mistake of thinking that military bases are the only high-value targets in America and the West. On the contrary, there are countless other strategic places, institutions and installations which, by striking, the Muslim can do major damage," Gadahn said, an assault rifle leaning up against a wall next to him. |
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its a shame that people wish physical harm on others, let alone death,,,and its disappointing that humans actually act on those wishes too...
freedom of speech or enticing to riot,,,,,tricky sometimes deciding the balance |
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its a shame that people wish physical harm on others, let alone death,,,and its disappointing that humans actually act on those wishes too... freedom of speech or enticing to riot,,,,,tricky sometimes deciding the balance Treason is an offense punishable by death. This traitor is working with an enemy who thinks nothing of cutting the throats of those who oppose their 'aims'. Ghadan has forfeited ANY right he ever had as an American CITIZEN to 'freedom of speech'. He has earned the death penalty by providing aid and comfort to our enemy in time of war. Old principle, but it still works ... He is condemned by his own words and actions. |
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its a shame that people wish physical harm on others, let alone death,,,and its disappointing that humans actually act on those wishes too... freedom of speech or enticing to riot,,,,,tricky sometimes deciding the balance I did not see you post any comment like this when people were wishing death and harm to Rush Limbaugh...................those 9/11 plotters deserve the worst penalty possible.....they killed 3000 people.............and would behead any USA citizen in a heartbeat.....look at what the terrorists did to Danny Pearl.........beheaded him and plastered it on the news media......no, people like the 9/11 plotters do not deserve what sane human beings are entitled to............. |
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its a shame that people wish physical harm on others, let alone death,,,and its disappointing that humans actually act on those wishes too... freedom of speech or enticing to riot,,,,,tricky sometimes deciding the balance I did not see you post any comment like this when people were wishing death and harm to Rush Limbaugh...................those 9/11 plotters deserve the worst penalty possible.....they killed 3000 people.............and would behead any USA citizen in a heartbeat.....look at what the terrorists did to Danny Pearl.........beheaded him and plastered it on the news media......no, people like the 9/11 plotters do not deserve what sane human beings are entitled to............. rarely will one find what they dont wish to see,,,, posted December 30, 2009 in the RUSH LIMBAUGH thread by yours truly ..Yeah, im sure he has loved ones somewhere, I dont wish the pain of losing someone you love on anyone.. As I said, I think its sad for people to wish harm on others let alone act on it. As far as 'siding' with enemies trumping freedom of speech,,thats what keeps our wars going. Whose 'side' were we on when Saddam invaded Iran? If the friend of our enemy is our friend on a global level, we are hypocrites to judge those who believe this doctrine on personal levels....... IMHO |
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Edited by
Lindyy
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Mon 03/08/10 10:43 AM
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its a shame that people wish physical harm on others, let alone death,,,and its disappointing that humans actually act on those wishes too... freedom of speech or enticing to riot,,,,,tricky sometimes deciding the balance I did not see you post any comment like this when people were wishing death and harm to Rush Limbaugh...................those 9/11 plotters deserve the worst penalty possible.....they killed 3000 people.............and would behead any USA citizen in a heartbeat.....look at what the terrorists did to Danny Pearl.........beheaded him and plastered it on the news media......no, people like the 9/11 plotters do not deserve what sane human beings are entitled to............. rarely will one find what they dont wish to see,,,, posted December 30, 2009 in the RUSH LIMBAUGH thread by yours truly ..Yeah, im sure he has loved ones somewhere, I dont wish the pain of losing someone you love on anyone.. As I said, I think its sad for people to wish harm on others let alone act on it. As far as 'siding' with enemies trumping freedom of speech,,thats what keeps our wars going. Whose 'side' were we on when Saddam invaded Iran? If the friend of our enemy is our friend on a global level, we are hypocrites to judge those who believe this doctrine on personal levels....... IMHO So, it is ok to NOT punish people who would behead anyone? I think it is SAD for people to support those who kill 3000 people and continue to want to do so.................... With YOUR attitude, the USA would not exist..............it would be thrown over to the terrorists................ In fact, the USA would never exist.............read your history to see how the Founding Fathers of the USA accomplished this great feat of acquiring the formation and freedom of the USA.............. Trying to be passive and have everyone like you will never accomplish anything..............no one likes everyone regardless of the facade one lives behind.......... One more thought.......WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHOSE LOVED ONES WERE KILLED, YOU KNOW, KILLED......DUE TO THIS MAN AND OTHER TERRORISTS? WHAT ABOUT THEM, WHAT ABOUT THEM? 
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Considering civilian courts do fine when it comes to properly punishing folks.
Military do okay at it too. The OP means nothing. The man will be properly punished by either court. People will just believe anything these days 
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Lindyy
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Mon 03/08/10 10:40 AM
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Considering civilian courts do fine when it comes to properly punishing folks. Military do okay at it too. The OP means nothing. The man will be properly punished by either court. People will just believe anything these days In a civilian court these terrorists will be given freedom and privileges and protections provided to USA citizens. Which, in this case, is a TOTAL OUTRAGE. They killed/were responsible for the death of 3000 people, and only God knows how many more. AND they would continue to do it if they had not been captured. So, how anyone can defend them is beyond the scope of any civil human beings comprehension. Military tribunal..........they are treated as war criminals, as such they are, and are given NO privileges entitled to a USA citizen......MORE information can be gathered and used for evidence when done via Military tribunals. More than likely information leading to the capture of other terrorists who would love to kill all of the USA citizens and those who defend freedom. The mere fact that a reversal by obama on this matter only provides proof positive that the outcry of the people of the USA is too overwhelming for obama to overlook......... |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Mon 03/08/10 01:14 PM
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its a shame that people wish physical harm on others, let alone death,,,and its disappointing that humans actually act on those wishes too... freedom of speech or enticing to riot,,,,,tricky sometimes deciding the balance I did not see you post any comment like this when people were wishing death and harm to Rush Limbaugh...................those 9/11 plotters deserve the worst penalty possible.....they killed 3000 people.............and would behead any USA citizen in a heartbeat.....look at what the terrorists did to Danny Pearl.........beheaded him and plastered it on the news media......no, people like the 9/11 plotters do not deserve what sane human beings are entitled to............. rarely will one find what they dont wish to see,,,, posted December 30, 2009 in the RUSH LIMBAUGH thread by yours truly ..Yeah, im sure he has loved ones somewhere, I dont wish the pain of losing someone you love on anyone.. As I said, I think its sad for people to wish harm on others let alone act on it. As far as 'siding' with enemies trumping freedom of speech,,thats what keeps our wars going. Whose 'side' were we on when Saddam invaded Iran? If the friend of our enemy is our friend on a global level, we are hypocrites to judge those who believe this doctrine on personal levels....... IMHO So, it is ok to NOT punish people who would behead anyone? I think it is SAD for people to support those who kill 3000 people and continue to want to do so.................... With YOUR attitude, the USA would not exist..............it would be thrown over to the terrorists................ In fact, the USA would never exist.............read your history to see how the Founding Fathers of the USA accomplished this great feat of acquiring the formation and freedom of the USA.............. Trying to be passive and have everyone like you will never accomplish anything..............no one likes everyone regardless of the facade one lives behind.......... One more thought.......WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHOSE LOVED ONES WERE KILLED, YOU KNOW, KILLED......DUE TO THIS MAN AND OTHER TERRORISTS? WHAT ABOUT THEM, WHAT ABOUT THEM? I am blessed to live in America, but dont get me started on how the founding fathers 'acquired' this land. Natives were pushed aside to 'acquire' it and slaves were 'bought and sold and killed' to build it. We killed tens of thousands in hiroshima and we have done our share of financing others being killed (behind the scenes) whether we own up to it or not. If we start exexuting people on what their words or support MIGHT imply, we will be in the same boat as those we call 'terrorists'. Our hands are not bloodless enough as a country to start playing judge and jury about the actions and words of the rest of the world. If this man killed people, he should be punished for it. Otherwise, I fail to see the point. Words have as much power as we give them but when we prosecute or even kill over words, we have lost what makes us human(in my opinion). oh,and on a sidenote, I prefer trying to be PEACEFUL to passive and I prefer the diversity of different cultures, governments, and lives as opposed to wanting EVERYONE to be like me. |
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its a shame that people wish physical harm on others, let alone death,,,and its disappointing that humans actually act on those wishes too... freedom of speech or enticing to riot,,,,,tricky sometimes deciding the balance I vote to just club them to death . why waste a good bullet on them .. Of course I feel that way about anyone who has more than 10 tears to do . |
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Dragoness
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Mon 03/08/10 06:02 PM
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Considering civilian courts do fine when it comes to properly punishing folks. Military do okay at it too. The OP means nothing. The man will be properly punished by either court. People will just believe anything these days In a civilian court these terrorists will be given freedom and privileges and protections provided to USA citizens. Which, in this case, is a TOTAL OUTRAGE. They killed/were responsible for the death of 3000 people, and only God knows how many more. AND they would continue to do it if they had not been captured. So, how anyone can defend them is beyond the scope of any civil human beings comprehension. Military tribunal..........they are treated as war criminals, as such they are, and are given NO privileges entitled to a USA citizen......MORE information can be gathered and used for evidence when done via Military tribunals. More than likely information leading to the capture of other terrorists who would love to kill all of the USA citizens and those who defend freedom. The mere fact that a reversal by obama on this matter only provides proof positive that the outcry of the people of the USA is too overwhelming for obama to overlook......... Not true at all. Human rights are given regardless. Need to go back to school and get some correct information. Civilian courts have successfully punished terrorist in the past, look it up. |
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The OP is garbage passed off as important when it isn't. Either court works just as well for the purpose needed. It is false info for fearmongering. |
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The OP is garbage passed off as important when it isn't. Either court works just as well for the purpose needed. It is false info for fearmongering. How 'bout if we use REAL info for 'fearmongering', then ... ? Would that make you happy? |
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Edited by
Lindyy
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Mon 03/08/10 10:36 PM
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The OP is garbage passed off as important when it isn't. Either court works just as well for the purpose needed. It is false info for fearmongering.  This thread is about the very real possibility of Obama changing his stance on the 9/11 terrorists being prosecuted by military tribunals instead of a federal civilian court. Please refrain from attacking me and unjustly accusing me of fear mongering and making false accusations about the article I posted. Care to APOLOGIZE for accusing me of fear mongering? I posted a legitimate, actual, factual article which has been on the news media, television, radio, newspapers, etc........... Since when is fear mongering when one differentiates between military tribunals and civil federal courts? obviously, you do not know the difference between military tribunal and federal civilian court.............there is quite a bit of difference, and different results accomplished. Military tribunals will offer more protection for the safety of the USA. I would appreciate an apology........... |
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Considering civilian courts do fine when it comes to properly punishing folks. Military do okay at it too. The OP means nothing. The man will be properly punished by either court. People will just believe anything these days In a civilian court these terrorists will be given freedom and privileges and protections provided to USA citizens. Which, in this case, is a TOTAL OUTRAGE. They killed/were responsible for the death of 3000 people, and only God knows how many more. AND they would continue to do it if they had not been captured. So, how anyone can defend them is beyond the scope of any civil human beings comprehension. Military tribunal..........they are treated as war criminals, as such they are, and are given NO privileges entitled to a USA citizen......MORE information can be gathered and used for evidence when done via Military tribunals. More than likely information leading to the capture of other terrorists who would love to kill all of the USA citizens and those who defend freedom. The mere fact that a reversal by obama on this matter only provides proof positive that the outcry of the people of the USA is too overwhelming for obama to overlook......... Not true at all. Human rights are given regardless. Need to go back to school and get some correct information. Civilian courts have successfully punished terrorist in the past, look it up. Are you saying you need to go back to school and get correct information? I know you are not referring to me as I have 22 years of experience as a legal secretary.....a good deal of that working for attorneys whose expertise is in the Federal Courts............ Thus, I am well informed on the court system in the USA............ from local municipal to state to appellate to federal...to Superior Court of PA to Supreme Court of PA...........  |
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i find this very uncredible a) it came from fox
B) either the poster or the article states the photo is that of khalid sheik mohammad when that's actually a photoshopped pic of bin laden C) why should they get military trials with no rights when the military has a track record of locking away ppl with no evidence , we're not officially at war with anybody, and 9 11 if you actually believe terrorists were really involved but that's a whole other issue, was a CRIME not an act of war. should the military try americans that get speeding tickets too? And please...daniel pearl? that video looks so fake and although the tragedy that he died is sad and i dont agree with it...he was still in a war zone tresspassing in another country...a white person has the right to stroll down harlem or compton but most don't right? |
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i find this very uncredible a) it came from fox B) either the poster or the article states the photo is that of khalid sheik mohammad when that's actually a photoshopped pic of bin laden C) why should they get military trials with no rights when the military has a track record of locking away ppl with no evidence , we're not officially at war with anybody, and 9 11 if you actually believe terrorists were really involved but that's a whole other issue, was a CRIME not an act of war. should the military try americans that get speeding tickets too? And please...daniel pearl? that video looks so fake and although the tragedy that he died is sad and i dont agree with it...he was still in a war zone tresspassing in another country...a white person has the right to stroll down harlem or compton but most don't right? Like it or not, it is very credible..........it has been on all the news media and if you do not like Obama changing his mind, which is what this thread is about, then contact obama and express your dismay to him directly. " Photo purporting to show Khalid Sheik Mohammed in detention at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. (AP)" Read the above quote and note that it came from the AP....Associated Press........... I find it bizarre that you condone the beheading of Danny Pearl....that is an atrocity...........UNBELIEVEABLE  You are off topic...........this thread has nothing to do with Harlam or Compton |
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lol i didnt condone it i just dont think it's real.. and wouldnt call it an atrocity and if i'm off topic so are you. daniel pearl has nothing to do with obama....and my apologies about the photo still that's not KSM
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lol i didnt condone it i just dont think it's real.. and wouldnt call it an atrocity and if i'm off topic so are you. daniel pearl has nothing to do with obama....and my apologies about the photo still that's not KSM YOU ARE SO VERY WRONG ABOUT THE PICTURE.....OH, WELL...... Beheading someone is an atrocity............. This thread, KINDLY re-read the first post........is about obama considering switching the trial of the 9/11 /terrorists/plotters to a military trubunal............. Daniel Pearl was beheaded by terrorists............. |
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