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Topic: Obama version of health reform expected Monday
TJN's photo
Sun 02/21/10 06:37 PM
The White House was expected to post a version of President Barack Obama's plan for overhauling health care on its Web site on Monday, ahead of his critical and daring summit at Blair House on Thursday. The plan, which was likely to be opposed by the GOP, was expected to require most Americans to carry health insurance coverage, with federal subsidies to help many afford the premiums.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100221/ap_on_bi_ge/us_health_care_overhaul


I guess I just don't understand his thinking.

3 days before this supposed bi-partisan summit on healthcare Obama comes out with his own plan.

With this I think the summit will just be a waste of time now.

Why can't they sit down with a blank piece of paper and go from there?

JustAGuy2112's photo
Sun 02/21/10 08:47 PM

The White House was expected to post a version of President Barack Obama's plan for overhauling health care on its Web site on Monday, ahead of his critical and daring summit at Blair House on Thursday. The plan, which was likely to be opposed by the GOP, was expected to require most Americans to carry health insurance coverage, with federal subsidies to help many afford the premiums.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100221/ap_on_bi_ge/us_health_care_overhaul


I guess I just don't understand his thinking.

3 days before this supposed bi-partisan summit on healthcare Obama comes out with his own plan.

With this I think the summit will just be a waste of time now.

Why can't they sit down with a blank piece of paper and go from there?


Actually..I think it's about damn time HE makes a proposal.

This entire time, he's been hiding behind Congress and The House because HE didn't actually HAVE a plan.

Winx's photo
Sun 02/21/10 09:53 PM
He did want a Public Option. Many people voted for him because of that.

JustAGuy2112's photo
Sun 02/21/10 10:33 PM

He did want a Public Option. Many people voted for him because of that.


Yeah, well. I don't think he's going to get one.

And I don't think ONE part, and a pretty vague part at that, could actually be considered a " plan ".

TJN's photo
Mon 02/22/10 04:06 AM


The White House was expected to post a version of President Barack Obama's plan for overhauling health care on its Web site on Monday, ahead of his critical and daring summit at Blair House on Thursday. The plan, which was likely to be opposed by the GOP, was expected to require most Americans to carry health insurance coverage, with federal subsidies to help many afford the premiums.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100221/ap_on_bi_ge/us_health_care_overhaul


I guess I just don't understand his thinking.

3 days before this supposed bi-partisan summit on healthcare Obama comes out with his own plan.

With this I think the summit will just be a waste of time now.

Why can't they sit down with a blank piece of paper and go from there?


Actually..I think it's about damn time HE makes a proposal.

This entire time, he's been hiding behind Congress and The House because HE didn't actually HAVE a plan.

I hear what your saying. He should have had one from the start. Not wait a few days before before he holds this summit that the republicans were finally invited to. Like I said I think they should go into it with a blank sheet of paper and start from scratch.

I think going into this with Obama bringing a plan of his own will just bring the same thing as before. Nothing will get done and "we the people" will be left still with nothing being done AGAIN!!!!!!!

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Mon 02/22/10 06:37 AM
OBama, as is a presidents role, began this with a general guideline of things (four or five, I think) that he wanted reform to accomplish and then he handed it off to senate and congress as he was supposed to. At this point, I think it is wise for him to be a part of what is going on because there is such a split about the bill.

msharmony's photo
Mon 02/22/10 06:47 AM
here is a timeline I found for the progress(so to speak) of the bill so far,,,

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-12-23-health-care-timeline_N.htm

InvictusV's photo
Mon 02/22/10 07:39 AM
Here we go again.. While we are still losing thousands of jobs every week, Obamanation decides to put forth another time wasting bill..

Hey Mr president... maybe if people had jobs they could get some form of health care insurance from their employer or afford to buy a plan on their own..

Jobs... The overwhelming #1 priority of Americans..

msharmony's photo
Mon 02/22/10 07:53 AM
we were losing 800,000 jobs a month when OBAMA came in, last month we lost 20,000. That is fairly significant progress in my eyes. It wont be totally fixed in a year,,we were DEEP in the hole and there is only so much that time allows when there are SO MANY things to work on.

AdventureBegins's photo
Mon 02/22/10 08:43 AM


The White House was expected to post a version of President Barack Obama's plan for overhauling health care on its Web site on Monday, ahead of his critical and daring summit at Blair House on Thursday. The plan, which was likely to be opposed by the GOP, was expected to require most Americans to carry health insurance coverage, with federal subsidies to help many afford the premiums.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100221/ap_on_bi_ge/us_health_care_overhaul


I guess I just don't understand his thinking.

3 days before this supposed bi-partisan summit on healthcare Obama comes out with his own plan.

With this I think the summit will just be a waste of time now.

Why can't they sit down with a blank piece of paper and go from there?


Actually..I think it's about damn time HE makes a proposal.

This entire time, he's been hiding behind Congress and The House because HE didn't actually HAVE a plan.

The President does not need a 'plan'. His job is to guide. He tells congress what he thinks America wants or needs and CONGRESS then is supposed to come up with a plan that meets those guidlines.

Then DISCUSSION finds the correct solution.

When government is not broken.

InvictusV's photo
Mon 02/22/10 09:10 AM

we were losing 800,000 jobs a month when OBAMA came in, last month we lost 20,000. That is fairly significant progress in my eyes. It wont be totally fixed in a year,,we were DEEP in the hole and there is only so much that time allows when there are SO MANY things to work on.


losing jobs is losing jobs.. job loss is revenue loss for big government. The economy is not going to rebound while we are losing jobs. This idea of a jobless recovery is absurd and based on the usual artificial manipulation of the markets and currency..The same crap that got us into this financial mess in the first place.

He is wasting time on this healthcare nonsense. expand medicaid, payoff the states, and quit golfing with his big banking buddies..

get to work on REAL job creation..

Is that too much to ask for?

msharmony's photo
Mon 02/22/10 11:10 AM


we were losing 800,000 jobs a month when OBAMA came in, last month we lost 20,000. That is fairly significant progress in my eyes. It wont be totally fixed in a year,,we were DEEP in the hole and there is only so much that time allows when there are SO MANY things to work on.


losing jobs is losing jobs.. job loss is revenue loss for big government. The economy is not going to rebound while we are losing jobs. This idea of a jobless recovery is absurd and based on the usual artificial manipulation of the markets and currency..The same crap that got us into this financial mess in the first place.

He is wasting time on this healthcare nonsense. expand medicaid, payoff the states, and quit golfing with his big banking buddies..

get to work on REAL job creation..

Is that too much to ask for?



the issue is not just job creation....we cant go from losing 800000 jobs in a month to gaining jobs,,,it will take time

people with and without jobs get ill and need medical attention, my dad once told me that without our health we have nothing, all the material things in the world wont make up for it

so we have to prioritize, I think the presidents priorities are in the right place,,,, he is working to do something about the recession AND about long overdue healthcare,,,

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Mon 02/22/10 11:40 AM
Edited by InvictusV on Mon 02/22/10 11:41 AM



we were losing 800,000 jobs a month when OBAMA came in, last month we lost 20,000. That is fairly significant progress in my eyes. It wont be totally fixed in a year,,we were DEEP in the hole and there is only so much that time allows when there are SO MANY things to work on.


losing jobs is losing jobs.. job loss is revenue loss for big government. The economy is not going to rebound while we are losing jobs. This idea of a jobless recovery is absurd and based on the usual artificial manipulation of the markets and currency..The same crap that got us into this financial mess in the first place.

He is wasting time on this healthcare nonsense. expand medicaid, payoff the states, and quit golfing with his big banking buddies..

get to work on REAL job creation..

Is that too much to ask for?



the issue is not just job creation....we cant go from losing 800000 jobs in a month to gaining jobs,,,it will take time

people with and without jobs get ill and need medical attention, my dad once told me that without our health we have nothing, all the material things in the world wont make up for it

so we have to prioritize, I think the presidents priorities are in the right place,,,, he is working to do something about the recession AND about long overdue healthcare,,,


what is he doing about the recession? they have been focused on healthcare since the summer. healthcare healthcare healthcare..

Do you realize that the changes proposed in his healthcare plan don't go fully in effect until 2014? Did you know that?

What the hell is that going to do for people that are unemployed now?

Not a damn thing..

Winx's photo
Mon 02/22/10 01:24 PM

we were losing 800,000 jobs a month when OBAMA came in, last month we lost 20,000. That is fairly significant progress in my eyes. It wont be totally fixed in a year,,we were DEEP in the hole and there is only so much that time allows when there are SO MANY things to work on.


That's true.

msharmony's photo
Mon 02/22/10 01:29 PM




we were losing 800,000 jobs a month when OBAMA came in, last month we lost 20,000. That is fairly significant progress in my eyes. It wont be totally fixed in a year,,we were DEEP in the hole and there is only so much that time allows when there are SO MANY things to work on.


losing jobs is losing jobs.. job loss is revenue loss for big government. The economy is not going to rebound while we are losing jobs. This idea of a jobless recovery is absurd and based on the usual artificial manipulation of the markets and currency..The same crap that got us into this financial mess in the first place.

He is wasting time on this healthcare nonsense. expand medicaid, payoff the states, and quit golfing with his big banking buddies..

get to work on REAL job creation..

Is that too much to ask for?



the issue is not just job creation....we cant go from losing 800000 jobs in a month to gaining jobs,,,it will take time

people with and without jobs get ill and need medical attention, my dad once told me that without our health we have nothing, all the material things in the world wont make up for it

so we have to prioritize, I think the presidents priorities are in the right place,,,, he is working to do something about the recession AND about long overdue healthcare,,,


what is he doing about the recession? they have been focused on healthcare since the summer. healthcare healthcare healthcare..

Do you realize that the changes proposed in his healthcare plan don't go fully in effect until 2014? Did you know that?

What the hell is that going to do for people that are unemployed now?

Not a damn thing..



All I can say is noone has a magic wand to fix the economic mess overnight. We should expect it to take time to be FULLY in effect. He has done several things to boost jobs and help the economy, but you would have to look those up for yourself.

willing2's photo
Mon 02/22/10 02:59 PM
Wut a surprise!rofl rofl rofl rofl
It's the same plan that's been demonstrated aginst all along. Nothing different.

Do we appear stupid to Hussein??

Where'd I put my Obummers a Jackass picture. We need to see it again to remind us of what we is dealing with!slaphead slaphead slaphead slaphead slaphead slaphead slaphead slaphead slaphead slaphead slaphead slaphead slaphead slaphead slaphead slaphead slaphead slaphead slaphead slaphead

InvictusV's photo
Mon 02/22/10 03:06 PM





we were losing 800,000 jobs a month when OBAMA came in, last month we lost 20,000. That is fairly significant progress in my eyes. It wont be totally fixed in a year,,we were DEEP in the hole and there is only so much that time allows when there are SO MANY things to work on.


losing jobs is losing jobs.. job loss is revenue loss for big government. The economy is not going to rebound while we are losing jobs. This idea of a jobless recovery is absurd and based on the usual artificial manipulation of the markets and currency..The same crap that got us into this financial mess in the first place.

He is wasting time on this healthcare nonsense. expand medicaid, payoff the states, and quit golfing with his big banking buddies..

get to work on REAL job creation..

Is that too much to ask for?



the issue is not just job creation....we cant go from losing 800000 jobs in a month to gaining jobs,,,it will take time

people with and without jobs get ill and need medical attention, my dad once told me that without our health we have nothing, all the material things in the world wont make up for it

so we have to prioritize, I think the presidents priorities are in the right place,,,, he is working to do something about the recession AND about long overdue healthcare,,,


what is he doing about the recession? they have been focused on healthcare since the summer. healthcare healthcare healthcare..

Do you realize that the changes proposed in his healthcare plan don't go fully in effect until 2014? Did you know that?

What the hell is that going to do for people that are unemployed now?

Not a damn thing..



All I can say is noone has a magic wand to fix the economic mess overnight. We should expect it to take time to be FULLY in effect. He has done several things to boost jobs and help the economy, but you would have to look those up for yourself.


You didn't answer my questions.. What is this healthcare bill going to do for people that are unemployed RIGHT NOW?

Winx's photo
Mon 02/22/10 04:43 PM
Edited by Winx on Mon 02/22/10 04:43 PM
This tells about his proposal:

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/NEWS/A_Politics/___Politics_Today_Stories_Teases/summary-presidents-proposal.pdf



cashu's photo
Mon 02/22/10 09:09 PM
I think he's going to bit slap the republicains . I read he was pounding the table when he was talking to the demos . he's really fighting for the program .

cashu's photo
Mon 02/22/10 09:16 PM

we were losing 800,000 jobs a month when OBAMA came in, last month we lost 20,000. That is fairly significant progress in my eyes. It wont be totally fixed in a year,,we were DEEP in the hole and there is only so much that time allows when there are SO MANY things to work on.
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we have to get 280000 jobs per mo. to i, prove things . any thing less than that isn't even keeping up . I haven't seen any new jobs but i did see a lot of government workers get raises .

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