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Very sloppy work on the part of that police force.... They should have the arresting officer's badge, a public apology to the woman and her family as well as a nice little check to TRY to make up for such a heinous and hasty arrest. How can you say that when you didn't see the police report? |
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from what i read in the article....that is my opinion
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Very sloppy work on the part of that police force.... They should have the arresting officer's badge, a public apology to the woman and her family as well as a nice little check to TRY to make up for such a heinous and hasty arrest. How can you say that when you didn't see the police report? Show us a link to that discovery evidence, and we'll look at it. You'll find that it is very hard, and maybe you may even have to pay a fee to look up public records and especially a police report of an individual. So good luck if you find Mrs. Fourhorn's arrest report, I'm betting you won't, and neither will anyone else. |
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from what i read in the article....that is my opinion But the article is just one persons side of the incident. |
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Very sloppy work on the part of that police force.... They should have the arresting officer's badge, a public apology to the woman and her family as well as a nice little check to TRY to make up for such a heinous and hasty arrest. How can you say that when you didn't see the police report? Show us a link to that discovery evidence, and we'll look at it. You'll find that it is very hard, and maybe you may even have to pay a fee to look up public records and especially a police report of an individual. So good luck if you find Mrs. Fourhorn's arrest report, I'm betting you won't, and neither will anyone else. You posted it I'm not going to look it up. Just stating that all the negativity towards the police in this article is based off not knowing ALL the facts. |
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Well, if they have only a name, and it doesn't exactly match, and it is not a know alias... they have nada. That's not reasonable for arresting someone. Also, if they knew the name, it is VERY likely they had more information. However, I can't see arresting someone just because the name is close to the name of someone who commits a crime. That would be like saying I own the packaging company that just so happens to be in town with "my first and my last names, then packaging company" as it's name. It's not reasonable to assume that, although it might make you suspect it slightly. In my case, suspecting it would be wrong. I do not own that company, which does actually exist. Name association is just too weak of a link to arrest someone. Heck, I'm live in the same town as that company! This was across state lines. It's too weak of a connection. Ok where did the crime take place? Yes they cought the woman who did it in Oklahoma but who's to say she didn't move there after the crime? There is not enough information in tha article to bash the police for making a wrong arrest. You don't know what information the police had when making the arrest. So how can you rush to judgement saying the police were wrong? Doesn't that make you just as wrong as the police were? "LIVED IN OKLAHOMA" "ARRESTED IN DENVER" Even the article stub makes a clear distinction. The full article (available online at most news venues) gives a lot more distinctions. This was a major boo boo in terms of policework. I wouldn't want to live in a world where this was acceptable, because I like someone having to prove I committed a crime before I am punished. |
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from what i read in the article....that is my opinion But the article is just one persons side of the incident. If it's all i have it's what i give my opinion on. |
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I used to trust and respect police officers but now I don't -- I've met too many bad ones. Too many cops are simply motivated by greed and a desire to control everyone and everything.
At least two things would have to happen before I ever trust the police again: (1) All police officers should be required to wear small audio/video recording devices on their person whenever they are on duty and away from the police station. Too many cops abuse their authority -- and even outright break the law -- when they think nobody is watching. Were this to happen, police harrassment would diminish either because: (a) they would know their speech and actions are being recorded and would thus "shape up" considerably; or (b) the public would finally have the evidence to prove that so many cops treat the public as criminals -- guilty until proven innocent. (2) There should be a list of rights (similar to the Miranda Warning) that cops MUST read to you if they EVER stop you for any reason, not just when they actually arrest you. So many bad cops rely on the public ignorance of the law. And those same bad cops take the attitude that "if the public doesn't know we are not legally authorized to do something to them, we certainly aren't going to tell them!" The news story above proves this attitude - - "A Denver police spokesman declined to comment on the mistaken identity arrests." The sad truth is, there are simply too many cops in this country who DAILY abuse their authority and treat the public as their enemy. And it only takes a few bad apples to ruin the whole bunch. TO COPS: THE PUBLIC IS NOT YOUR ENEMY! MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT CRIMINALS! STOP ABUSING YOUR AUTHORITY! STOP GIVING THE PUBLIC REASONS TO HATE YOU! |
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Well, if they have only a name, and it doesn't exactly match, and it is not a know alias... they have nada. That's not reasonable for arresting someone. Also, if they knew the name, it is VERY likely they had more information. However, I can't see arresting someone just because the name is close to the name of someone who commits a crime. That would be like saying I own the packaging company that just so happens to be in town with "my first and my last names, then packaging company" as it's name. It's not reasonable to assume that, although it might make you suspect it slightly. In my case, suspecting it would be wrong. I do not own that company, which does actually exist. Name association is just too weak of a link to arrest someone. Heck, I'm live in the same town as that company! This was across state lines. It's too weak of a connection. Ok where did the crime take place? Yes they cought the woman who did it in Oklahoma but who's to say she didn't move there after the crime? There is not enough information in tha article to bash the police for making a wrong arrest. You don't know what information the police had when making the arrest. So how can you rush to judgement saying the police were wrong? Doesn't that make you just as wrong as the police were? "LIVED IN OKLAHOMA" "ARRESTED IN DENVER" Even the article stub makes a clear distinction. The full article (available online at most news venues) gives a lot more distinctions. This was a major boo boo in terms of policework. I wouldn't want to live in a world where this was acceptable, because I like someone having to prove I committed a crime before I am punished. WHERE DID THE CRIME TAKE PLACE? The woman wrongfully arrested was in Denver, the woman who commited the crime lived in Oklahoma. The article doesn't state that? If you found more info on this post it and I will read it. |
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from what i read in the article....that is my opinion But the article is just one persons side of the incident. If it's all i have it's what i give my opinion on. And you have every right to that. I just don't want to form an opinion untill I know all the facts, from the woman and the police report. |
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There just simply needs to be some sort of recompense from law enforcement authorities who arrest the wrong person & keep them in jail for days before finding out who they were. This sort of occurence in someone's life can not only cost them their job, but ruin their reputation among their peers & neighbors. And I'll bet you that she had to PAY herself to get her record expunged. She needs to be repaid for that if she had to pay to have it done & she needs to be compensated for the money her husband spent on bailing her out. Thus, the need to be able to file a law suit against them. This is why I get nervous when people start crowing about tort reform. If there is no way that a group of people can be held responsible for their misdeeds & mistakes, then lawsuit is your only option to get justice & to try & impress upon that group that they need to follow the rules that apply to THEM.
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I used to trust and respect police officers but now I don't -- I've met too many bad ones. Too many cops are simply motivated by greed and a desire to control everyone and everything. At least two things would have to happen before I ever trust the police again: (1) All police officers should be required to wear small audio/video recording devices on their person whenever they are on duty and away from the police station. Too many cops abuse their authority -- and even outright break the law -- when they think nobody is watching. Were this to happen, police harrassment would diminish either because: (a) they would know their speech and actions are being recorded and would thus "shape up" considerably; or (b) the public would finally have the evidence to prove that so many cops treat the public as criminals -- guilty until proven innocent. (2) There should be a list of rights (similar to the Miranda Warning) that cops MUST read to you if they EVER stop you for any reason, not just when they actually arrest you. So many bad cops rely on the public ignorance of the law. And those same bad cops take the attitude that "if the public doesn't know we are not legally authorized to do something to them, we certainly aren't going to tell them!" The news story above proves this attitude - - "A Denver police spokesman declined to comment on the mistaken identity arrests." The sad truth is, there are simply too many cops in this country who DAILY abuse their authority and treat the public as their enemy. And it only takes a few bad apples to ruin the whole bunch. TO COPS: THE PUBLIC IS NOT YOUR ENEMY! MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT CRIMINALS! STOP ABUSING YOUR AUTHORITY! STOP GIVING THE PUBLIC REASONS TO HATE YOU! |
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from what i read in the article....that is my opinion But the article is just one persons side of the incident. If it's all i have it's what i give my opinion on. And you have every right to that. I just don't want to form an opinion untill I know all the facts, from the woman and the police report. well...this is a mere forum... if you're one to research and collect all the facts before posting then hats off to you, but i couldn't imagine doing that to every forum i read before posting... i just don't have the time |
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we need to restore america or we will become like the mideast , mexico, etc
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This article is quite adequate to formulate an opinion about it, and the more general topic of police procedure, and any prejudices they may have when making or deciding to make an arrest.
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i think a few people need to be arrested for treason in washington dc
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what evidence did the police have or didn't have before the warrant and arrest? The police make arrests or not, based on what they have. That is why we have a court system. That is where all the evidence both sides have present it.
Of course the police and courts make mistakes and innocent people get arrested and put in jail. The guilty are arrested and put in jail as well. No system is perfect, anywhere, and never will be. People are human and mistakes are made. This isn't Judge Dred and the cops only arrest (or write tickets) and the courts pronounce guilt or innocence. I would hate for the cops to be judge, jury and executioner. Now with all of that said....yes the woman should be compensated for it. With the attitude of all cops are evil because of a few bad apples....do you wonder why the cops might have to do what they do sometimes? |
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Miserlou
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My mum once had something similar happen to her. She got a phonecall from the police telling her to come in to the station so they could ask her some questions about a stolen credit card.
What happened was that my mum (Jenny White) had used her own credit card at the same time as another woman (also Jenny White) used a stolen one. The criminal Jenny White is also a person who used to live at our address some time before we did. The police thought that mum had put away one of the shopping baskets and had taken someone else's purse with the card in it on the security footage, but what had happened was that she picked up her own purse after accidentally leaving it in that basket while at the checkout. However it was all resolved after mum went into the station and they found out that she was a completely different woman than the one who had actually used the stolen card. So police officers do make mistakes - usually they are resolved, but sometimes they do jump the gun a little too quickly and won't listen to what anyone else has to say about it. |
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This is sad.
Heck, the police called my mom and discussed it over the phone when there was another woman with the same first and last name, who kidnapped her kids across state lines and was writing hot checks. Mom ran down to the local police station, after she got past thinking dad was goofing on her, and they verified the info and faxed mom's stuff over to the other police dept. The middle names were different. |
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