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Topic: Officer, you've got the wrong person!
DaveyB's photo
Tue 02/16/10 04:36 PM

If an innocent man or woman goes to jail, why wouldn't it sell? Police, yes, and the Courts, need to be held to a higher standard. We cannot afford any more of these unlawful arrests.


A higher standard yes, but perfection no that's just plain fantasy. Not to mention, as has been pointed out numerous times, no one here knows who made the actual mistake. It is unfortunate and as rose said compensation for it should definitely happen.


DaveyB's photo
Tue 02/16/10 04:48 PM


Okay, yellow, go back, and read it again. What did they have to go on? Christin Fourhorn, Christina FourHorn. Close enough! Arrest her! Excuse me! That's it? No description? No weight? No prints? No witnesses? No background check? Middle Name? No evidence of any sort? Just a name, that's similar but not identical? Surely, you can't be serious.


Exactly. If the cops were 'doing their job properly' than this is even further evidence that the system is broken. What happened should not have happened, period.


No this not their job, they are cops not investigators. If three cars pulled up to the house to arrest her then the investigation was already done. Poorly obviously but done just the same. If it were a routine traffic stop and it popped up on their computer I would expect the officers to contact an investigator and try to ascertain if the person they should be arresting. But at the point this happened, for what evidence we have, they did their job. I don't want police officers pretending to be investigators, it's NOT their job.

CatsLoveMe's photo
Tue 02/16/10 05:03 PM
Aren't detectives, police? They work for the city, or the county, but I believe they are still cops.

DaveyB's photo
Tue 02/16/10 05:06 PM

Aren't detectives, police?


Oh common, you're not that dumb are you? Sure they are, but do you really think those police cars were full of detectives? Give me a break.


CatsLoveMe's photo
Tue 02/16/10 05:09 PM


Aren't detectives, police?


Oh common, you're not that dumb are you? Sure they are, but do you really think those police cars were full of detectives? Give me a break.




Um, yes, I know the arresting officers were the pawns, but there were police detectives working this case, and they were in the chain of events which issued the warrant on this innocent person. Break's over.

DaveyB's photo
Tue 02/16/10 05:24 PM



Aren't detectives, police?


Oh common, you're not that dumb are you? Sure they are, but do you really think those police cars were full of detectives? Give me a break.




Um, yes, I know the arresting officers were the pawns, but there were police detectives working this case, and they were in the chain of events which issued the warrant on this innocent person. Break's over.


Ah I see, we are going to conveniently change our argument. Oh no no that's not what I really meant it wasn't the arresting officers.

I see there's no point in this discussion. when you can't defend your position you'll just change it. Thanks anyway.

Duffy's photo
Tue 02/16/10 06:40 PM
Jordon Miles versus the Pittsburgh Police. what is that about?

I will have to find my little green card about what 2 do when the police stop u authored by the ACLU.

Duffy's photo
Tue 02/16/10 06:46 PM
jordon miles...
an 18 year old young black man that was carrying a heavy big object when attacked by police. it was a bottle of mountain dew.

CatsLoveMe's photo
Wed 02/17/10 12:25 PM




Aren't detectives, police?


Oh common, you're not that dumb are you? Sure they are, but do you really think those police cars were full of detectives? Give me a break.




Um, yes, I know the arresting officers were the pawns, but there were police detectives working this case, and they were in the chain of events which issued the warrant on this innocent person. Break's over.


Ah I see, we are going to conveniently change our argument. Oh no no that's not what I really meant it wasn't the arresting officers.

I see there's no point in this discussion. when you can't defend your position you'll just change it. Thanks anyway.


What's to defend, Davey? Let me narrow it down here. What evidence did the warrant issuing judge and the police who submitted the warrant request and later execution of this warrant have to go on? That is why this is so outrageous. Oh and now it would seem we have an ex-cop from Oregon accused of shooting and killing his own mother and fleeing eastward as a nationwide manhunt is underway for his arrest. Not related, but does show another example of the taint that exists in the police as an organization. Public Relations.

DaveyB's photo
Wed 02/17/10 02:48 PM

What's to defend, Davey? Let me narrow it down here. What evidence did the warrant issuing judge and the police who submitted the warrant request and later execution of this warrant have to go on?


We don't know. You don't know. No one here knows.

That is why this is so outrageous.


THIS is what you have to defend that you have constantly changed what you say in order subvert answering the actual question. What's outrageous is YOU blaming officers when YOU DON'T KNOW. Certainly somebody errored here. But if the only thing the warrant was issued for was because the name was similar as you seem to be suggesting (though carefully avoiding saying that exact thing so when I call you on it you can deny that's what you meant) then that Judge needs to be disbarred... Oh and last time I checked Judges were not considered police.


Oh and now it would seem we have an ex-cop from Oregon accused of shooting and killing his own mother and fleeing eastward as a nationwide manhunt is underway for his arrest. Not related, but does show another example of the taint that exists in the police as an organization.


Damn right it's not related. Not even remotely since in this case it not even a matter of a cop who abused his authority. This is just a sick person who happens to be a cop. Don't you even feel a little ashamed at trying to subvert your own shortcomings in this debate by trying to tear down every officer out based on the actions of one twisted human being?


The biggest problem I can see in this case that led to such a miscarriage of justice is that the warrant was executed across state lines. The ability transfer the information that proved that she was not the subject took a week to get there. Best way to fix that sort of problem is with improved technology in our police stations. When was the last time you voted for extra funds for the police? You don't like this situation? Blame yourself.

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Wed 02/17/10 03:09 PM
Someone in the police department submitted the request. Therefore, the police were higher up in the food chain than the warrant-issuing judge was. "Took 5 days to bond her out," I wonder why that was. It's fair to say that those who support the notion that this was a miscarriage of justice, are right in believing such.

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Wed 02/17/10 03:15 PM

I guess if your name is "John Smith," you might want to consider changing it to some complicated Czechoslovakian name, in order to avoid any "confusion" by local law enforcememt.

But if you change your name then you really must have done something wrong, right?

Dragoness's photo
Wed 02/17/10 03:17 PM
I hope she hit em where it hurts in the pocket books because when it starts coming out of tax payers dollars to pay all these law suits, people will start paying attention..

CatsLoveMe's photo
Wed 02/17/10 03:22 PM

I hope she hit em where it hurts in the pocket books because when it starts coming out of tax payers dollars to pay all these law suits, people will start paying attention..


It does, it has been and it will. Read this thread I posted yesterday:

http://mingle2.com/topic/show/265983

Regarding Tim Masters and his wrongful imprisonment lawsuit. He was awarded $4.1 million, but could have gotten more.

DaveyB's photo
Wed 02/17/10 06:02 PM


I guess if your name is "John Smith," you might want to consider changing it to some complicated Czechoslovakian name, in order to avoid any "confusion" by local law enforcememt.

But if you change your name then you really must have done something wrong, right?


Um, no, not hardly. The fact is I suspect that that particular reason is a relatively small portion of those people who do change their name.

Here's a one list I found, but there are ton's more out there.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/776505/top_7_reasons_why_people_change_their.html

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