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Topic: The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder
MiddleEarthling's photo
Sun 02/07/10 11:36 AM
Vincent Bugliosi, this guy convicted Charles Manson who was responsible for much less damage than the Dippic...he's an ace and this is a solid case for charging the Dippic with first degree murder.

Here's an interview:

Part 1 of 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBsOJwJ5WO0

"Famed prosecutor and #1 New York Times bestselling author Vincent Bugliosi has written the most powerful, explosive, and thought-provoking book of his storied career. As a prosecutor dedicated to seeking justice, he delivers a non-partisan argument, free from party lines, based upon hard facts and pure objectivity."

"In The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder, Bugliosi presents a tight, meticulously researched legal case that puts George W. Bush on trial in an American courtroom for the murder of nearly 4,000 American soldiers fighting the war in Iraq. Bugliosi sets forth the legal architecture and incontrovertible evidence that President Bush took this nation to war in Iraq under false pretenses—a war that has not only caused the deaths of American soldiers but also over 100,000 innocent Iraqi men, women, and children; cost the United States over one trillion dollars thus far with no end in sight; and alienated many American allies in the Western world.

As a prosecutor who is dedicated to seeking justice, Bugliosi, in his inimitable style, delivers a non-partisan argument, free from party lines and instead based upon hard facts and pure objectivity.

A searing indictment of the President and his administration, The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder also outlines a legally credible pathway to holding our highest government officials accountable for their actions, thereby creating a framework for future occupants of the oval office.

Vincent Bugliosi calls for the United States of America to return to the great nation it once was and can be again. He believes the first step to achieving this goal is to bring those responsible for the war in Iraq to justice."

http://www.prosecutionofbush.com/


cashu's photo
Sun 02/07/10 06:03 PM
I never though much of his talent with charlies trail . He turned lose an admitted killer so that they could get one person to say manson was involved in those killings .The girl he turned lose is the one that stabbed sharon tate and wrote on the walls with her blood .
the reason bush is not guilty here is because congress approved the invasion . there was and is a lot of laws they should get him on but not murder .

Quietman_2009's photo
Sun 02/07/10 06:06 PM
Edited by Quietman_2009 on Sun 02/07/10 06:08 PM
as Tony Blair said, they had UN Resolutions and Parlimentary and Congressional approval

I don't get the illegal part

Saddam and Iraq violated every single condition of the the surrender that ended Desert Storm. Just on that alone we were justified in going back in there

Giocamo's photo
Sun 02/07/10 06:09 PM

as Tony Blair said, they had UN Resolutions and Parlimentary and Congrssional approval

I don't get the illegal part

Saddam and Iraq violated every single condition of the the surrender that ended Desert Storm. Just on that alone we were justified in going back in there


100% correct...I guess some people forget the hours and hours of testimony give by Colin Powell...

Dragoness's photo
Sun 02/07/10 06:13 PM

Vincent Bugliosi, this guy convicted Charles Manson who was responsible for much less damage than the Dippic...he's an ace and this is a solid case for charging the Dippic with first degree murder.

Here's an interview:

Part 1 of 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBsOJwJ5WO0

"Famed prosecutor and #1 New York Times bestselling author Vincent Bugliosi has written the most powerful, explosive, and thought-provoking book of his storied career. As a prosecutor dedicated to seeking justice, he delivers a non-partisan argument, free from party lines, based upon hard facts and pure objectivity."

"In The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder, Bugliosi presents a tight, meticulously researched legal case that puts George W. Bush on trial in an American courtroom for the murder of nearly 4,000 American soldiers fighting the war in Iraq. Bugliosi sets forth the legal architecture and incontrovertible evidence that President Bush took this nation to war in Iraq under false pretenses—a war that has not only caused the deaths of American soldiers but also over 100,000 innocent Iraqi men, women, and children; cost the United States over one trillion dollars thus far with no end in sight; and alienated many American allies in the Western world.

As a prosecutor who is dedicated to seeking justice, Bugliosi, in his inimitable style, delivers a non-partisan argument, free from party lines and instead based upon hard facts and pure objectivity.

A searing indictment of the President and his administration, The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder also outlines a legally credible pathway to holding our highest government officials accountable for their actions, thereby creating a framework for future occupants of the oval office.

Vincent Bugliosi calls for the United States of America to return to the great nation it once was and can be again. He believes the first step to achieving this goal is to bring those responsible for the war in Iraq to justice."

http://www.prosecutionofbush.com/




They will never do it even though he and Blair and others should be charged.

They used the UN resolutions incorrectly. There was no agreement for a preemptive strike.

That is the illegal part.

Of course it is only illegal in the international jurisdiction and they will not end up charging them.

It does give us a bad name that we preemptively struck and killed millions in a country that did nothing to us.

InvictusV's photo
Sun 02/07/10 06:29 PM


Vincent Bugliosi, this guy convicted Charles Manson who was responsible for much less damage than the Dippic...he's an ace and this is a solid case for charging the Dippic with first degree murder.

Here's an interview:

Part 1 of 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBsOJwJ5WO0

"Famed prosecutor and #1 New York Times bestselling author Vincent Bugliosi has written the most powerful, explosive, and thought-provoking book of his storied career. As a prosecutor dedicated to seeking justice, he delivers a non-partisan argument, free from party lines, based upon hard facts and pure objectivity."

"In The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder, Bugliosi presents a tight, meticulously researched legal case that puts George W. Bush on trial in an American courtroom for the murder of nearly 4,000 American soldiers fighting the war in Iraq. Bugliosi sets forth the legal architecture and incontrovertible evidence that President Bush took this nation to war in Iraq under false pretenses—a war that has not only caused the deaths of American soldiers but also over 100,000 innocent Iraqi men, women, and children; cost the United States over one trillion dollars thus far with no end in sight; and alienated many American allies in the Western world.

As a prosecutor who is dedicated to seeking justice, Bugliosi, in his inimitable style, delivers a non-partisan argument, free from party lines and instead based upon hard facts and pure objectivity.

A searing indictment of the President and his administration, The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder also outlines a legally credible pathway to holding our highest government officials accountable for their actions, thereby creating a framework for future occupants of the oval office.

Vincent Bugliosi calls for the United States of America to return to the great nation it once was and can be again. He believes the first step to achieving this goal is to bring those responsible for the war in Iraq to justice."

http://www.prosecutionofbush.com/




They will never do it even though he and Blair and others should be charged.

They used the UN resolutions incorrectly. There was no agreement for a preemptive strike.

That is the illegal part.

Of course it is only illegal in the international jurisdiction and they will not end up charging them.

It does give us a bad name that we preemptively struck and killed millions in a country that did nothing to us.


we going to charge him with war crimes?

On June 26, 1993, Bill Clinton ordered an attack on the Iraqi Intelligence Service's (IIS) principal command and control complex in Baghdad, publicly announced as retaliation for the alleged assassination attempt by the IIS on ex-president George Bush while he was visiting Kuwait in April of that year. Fourteen cruise missiles were launched from the USS Peterson, nine were launched from the USS Chancellorsville. 16 of the missiles hit the target, three struck a residential area, killing nine civilians and wounding 12. Four of the missiles were unaccounted for. This strike was in violation of international law, although that point is contentious.

In December 1998 Clinton ordered four days of concentrated air attacks against military installations in Iraq. After the bombing, Hussein blocked any further UN inspections. For several years afterward, U.S. air assaults continued to target defense installations in Iraq, in response to what the Clinton administration claimed were “provocations” by the Iraqi military, including antiaircraft fire and radar locks on American planes and missiles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_policy_of_the_Bill_Clinton_administration

Dragoness's photo
Sun 02/07/10 06:32 PM



Vincent Bugliosi, this guy convicted Charles Manson who was responsible for much less damage than the Dippic...he's an ace and this is a solid case for charging the Dippic with first degree murder.

Here's an interview:

Part 1 of 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBsOJwJ5WO0

"Famed prosecutor and #1 New York Times bestselling author Vincent Bugliosi has written the most powerful, explosive, and thought-provoking book of his storied career. As a prosecutor dedicated to seeking justice, he delivers a non-partisan argument, free from party lines, based upon hard facts and pure objectivity."

"In The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder, Bugliosi presents a tight, meticulously researched legal case that puts George W. Bush on trial in an American courtroom for the murder of nearly 4,000 American soldiers fighting the war in Iraq. Bugliosi sets forth the legal architecture and incontrovertible evidence that President Bush took this nation to war in Iraq under false pretenses—a war that has not only caused the deaths of American soldiers but also over 100,000 innocent Iraqi men, women, and children; cost the United States over one trillion dollars thus far with no end in sight; and alienated many American allies in the Western world.

As a prosecutor who is dedicated to seeking justice, Bugliosi, in his inimitable style, delivers a non-partisan argument, free from party lines and instead based upon hard facts and pure objectivity.

A searing indictment of the President and his administration, The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder also outlines a legally credible pathway to holding our highest government officials accountable for their actions, thereby creating a framework for future occupants of the oval office.

Vincent Bugliosi calls for the United States of America to return to the great nation it once was and can be again. He believes the first step to achieving this goal is to bring those responsible for the war in Iraq to justice."

http://www.prosecutionofbush.com/




They will never do it even though he and Blair and others should be charged.

They used the UN resolutions incorrectly. There was no agreement for a preemptive strike.

That is the illegal part.

Of course it is only illegal in the international jurisdiction and they will not end up charging them.

It does give us a bad name that we preemptively struck and killed millions in a country that did nothing to us.


we going to charge him with war crimes?

On June 26, 1993, Bill Clinton ordered an attack on the Iraqi Intelligence Service's (IIS) principal command and control complex in Baghdad, publicly announced as retaliation for the alleged assassination attempt by the IIS on ex-president George Bush while he was visiting Kuwait in April of that year. Fourteen cruise missiles were launched from the USS Peterson, nine were launched from the USS Chancellorsville. 16 of the missiles hit the target, three struck a residential area, killing nine civilians and wounding 12. Four of the missiles were unaccounted for. This strike was in violation of international law, although that point is contentious.

In December 1998 Clinton ordered four days of concentrated air attacks against military installations in Iraq. After the bombing, Hussein blocked any further UN inspections. For several years afterward, U.S. air assaults continued to target defense installations in Iraq, in response to what the Clinton administration claimed were “provocations” by the Iraqi military, including antiaircraft fire and radar locks on American planes and missiles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_policy_of_the_Bill_Clinton_administration



And your point is?

That has no correlation with what Bush did.

InvictusV's photo
Sun 02/07/10 06:34 PM




Vincent Bugliosi, this guy convicted Charles Manson who was responsible for much less damage than the Dippic...he's an ace and this is a solid case for charging the Dippic with first degree murder.

Here's an interview:

Part 1 of 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBsOJwJ5WO0

"Famed prosecutor and #1 New York Times bestselling author Vincent Bugliosi has written the most powerful, explosive, and thought-provoking book of his storied career. As a prosecutor dedicated to seeking justice, he delivers a non-partisan argument, free from party lines, based upon hard facts and pure objectivity."

"In The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder, Bugliosi presents a tight, meticulously researched legal case that puts George W. Bush on trial in an American courtroom for the murder of nearly 4,000 American soldiers fighting the war in Iraq. Bugliosi sets forth the legal architecture and incontrovertible evidence that President Bush took this nation to war in Iraq under false pretenses—a war that has not only caused the deaths of American soldiers but also over 100,000 innocent Iraqi men, women, and children; cost the United States over one trillion dollars thus far with no end in sight; and alienated many American allies in the Western world.

As a prosecutor who is dedicated to seeking justice, Bugliosi, in his inimitable style, delivers a non-partisan argument, free from party lines and instead based upon hard facts and pure objectivity.

A searing indictment of the President and his administration, The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder also outlines a legally credible pathway to holding our highest government officials accountable for their actions, thereby creating a framework for future occupants of the oval office.

Vincent Bugliosi calls for the United States of America to return to the great nation it once was and can be again. He believes the first step to achieving this goal is to bring those responsible for the war in Iraq to justice."

http://www.prosecutionofbush.com/




They will never do it even though he and Blair and others should be charged.

They used the UN resolutions incorrectly. There was no agreement for a preemptive strike.

That is the illegal part.

Of course it is only illegal in the international jurisdiction and they will not end up charging them.

It does give us a bad name that we preemptively struck and killed millions in a country that did nothing to us.


we going to charge him with war crimes?

On June 26, 1993, Bill Clinton ordered an attack on the Iraqi Intelligence Service's (IIS) principal command and control complex in Baghdad, publicly announced as retaliation for the alleged assassination attempt by the IIS on ex-president George Bush while he was visiting Kuwait in April of that year. Fourteen cruise missiles were launched from the USS Peterson, nine were launched from the USS Chancellorsville. 16 of the missiles hit the target, three struck a residential area, killing nine civilians and wounding 12. Four of the missiles were unaccounted for. This strike was in violation of international law, although that point is contentious.

In December 1998 Clinton ordered four days of concentrated air attacks against military installations in Iraq. After the bombing, Hussein blocked any further UN inspections. For several years afterward, U.S. air assaults continued to target defense installations in Iraq, in response to what the Clinton administration claimed were “provocations” by the Iraqi military, including antiaircraft fire and radar locks on American planes and missiles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_policy_of_the_Bill_Clinton_administration



And your point is?

That has no correlation with what Bush did.


War crimes are war crimes.. If we charge one we charge them all..


Dragoness's photo
Sun 02/07/10 06:47 PM





Vincent Bugliosi, this guy convicted Charles Manson who was responsible for much less damage than the Dippic...he's an ace and this is a solid case for charging the Dippic with first degree murder.

Here's an interview:

Part 1 of 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBsOJwJ5WO0

"Famed prosecutor and #1 New York Times bestselling author Vincent Bugliosi has written the most powerful, explosive, and thought-provoking book of his storied career. As a prosecutor dedicated to seeking justice, he delivers a non-partisan argument, free from party lines, based upon hard facts and pure objectivity."

"In The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder, Bugliosi presents a tight, meticulously researched legal case that puts George W. Bush on trial in an American courtroom for the murder of nearly 4,000 American soldiers fighting the war in Iraq. Bugliosi sets forth the legal architecture and incontrovertible evidence that President Bush took this nation to war in Iraq under false pretenses—a war that has not only caused the deaths of American soldiers but also over 100,000 innocent Iraqi men, women, and children; cost the United States over one trillion dollars thus far with no end in sight; and alienated many American allies in the Western world.

As a prosecutor who is dedicated to seeking justice, Bugliosi, in his inimitable style, delivers a non-partisan argument, free from party lines and instead based upon hard facts and pure objectivity.

A searing indictment of the President and his administration, The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder also outlines a legally credible pathway to holding our highest government officials accountable for their actions, thereby creating a framework for future occupants of the oval office.

Vincent Bugliosi calls for the United States of America to return to the great nation it once was and can be again. He believes the first step to achieving this goal is to bring those responsible for the war in Iraq to justice."

http://www.prosecutionofbush.com/




They will never do it even though he and Blair and others should be charged.

They used the UN resolutions incorrectly. There was no agreement for a preemptive strike.

That is the illegal part.

Of course it is only illegal in the international jurisdiction and they will not end up charging them.

It does give us a bad name that we preemptively struck and killed millions in a country that did nothing to us.


we going to charge him with war crimes?

On June 26, 1993, Bill Clinton ordered an attack on the Iraqi Intelligence Service's (IIS) principal command and control complex in Baghdad, publicly announced as retaliation for the alleged assassination attempt by the IIS on ex-president George Bush while he was visiting Kuwait in April of that year. Fourteen cruise missiles were launched from the USS Peterson, nine were launched from the USS Chancellorsville. 16 of the missiles hit the target, three struck a residential area, killing nine civilians and wounding 12. Four of the missiles were unaccounted for. This strike was in violation of international law, although that point is contentious.

In December 1998 Clinton ordered four days of concentrated air attacks against military installations in Iraq. After the bombing, Hussein blocked any further UN inspections. For several years afterward, U.S. air assaults continued to target defense installations in Iraq, in response to what the Clinton administration claimed were “provocations” by the Iraqi military, including antiaircraft fire and radar locks on American planes and missiles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_policy_of_the_Bill_Clinton_administration



And your point is?

That has no correlation with what Bush did.


War crimes are war crimes.. If we charge one we charge them all..




Isn't the same thing.

I don't agree with war at all. It shows how stupid man is still in my eyes but comparison there isn't even close.

Bush killed millions in a preemptive strike on a country that did nothing to us, for 9/11.

MiddleEarthling's photo
Sun 02/07/10 06:48 PM
Edited by MiddleEarthling on Sun 02/07/10 06:49 PM



Vincent Bugliosi, this guy convicted Charles Manson who was responsible for much less damage than the Dippic...he's an ace and this is a solid case for charging the Dippic with first degree murder.

Here's an interview:

Part 1 of 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBsOJwJ5WO0

"Famed prosecutor and #1 New York Times bestselling author Vincent Bugliosi has written the most powerful, explosive, and thought-provoking book of his storied career. As a prosecutor dedicated to seeking justice, he delivers a non-partisan argument, free from party lines, based upon hard facts and pure objectivity."

"In The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder, Bugliosi presents a tight, meticulously researched legal case that puts George W. Bush on trial in an American courtroom for the murder of nearly 4,000 American soldiers fighting the war in Iraq. Bugliosi sets forth the legal architecture and incontrovertible evidence that President Bush took this nation to war in Iraq under false pretenses—a war that has not only caused the deaths of American soldiers but also over 100,000 innocent Iraqi men, women, and children; cost the United States over one trillion dollars thus far with no end in sight; and alienated many American allies in the Western world.

As a prosecutor who is dedicated to seeking justice, Bugliosi, in his inimitable style, delivers a non-partisan argument, free from party lines and instead based upon hard facts and pure objectivity.

A searing indictment of the President and his administration, The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder also outlines a legally credible pathway to holding our highest government officials accountable for their actions, thereby creating a framework for future occupants of the oval office.

Vincent Bugliosi calls for the United States of America to return to the great nation it once was and can be again. He believes the first step to achieving this goal is to bring those responsible for the war in Iraq to justice."

http://www.prosecutionofbush.com/




They will never do it even though he and Blair and others should be charged.

They used the UN resolutions incorrectly. There was no agreement for a preemptive strike.

That is the illegal part.

Of course it is only illegal in the international jurisdiction and they will not end up charging them.

It does give us a bad name that we preemptively struck and killed millions in a country that did nothing to us.


we going to charge him with war crimes?

On June 26, 1993, Bill Clinton ordered an attack on the Iraqi Intelligence Service's (IIS) principal command and control complex in Baghdad, publicly announced as retaliation for the alleged assassination attempt by the IIS on ex-president George Bush while he was visiting Kuwait in April of that year. Fourteen cruise missiles were launched from the USS Peterson, nine were launched from the USS Chancellorsville. 16 of the missiles hit the target, three struck a residential area, killing nine civilians and wounding 12. Four of the missiles were unaccounted for. This strike was in violation of international law, although that point is contentious.

In December 1998 Clinton ordered four days of concentrated air attacks against military installations in Iraq. After the bombing, Hussein blocked any further UN inspections. For several years afterward, U.S. air assaults continued to target defense installations in Iraq, in response to what the Clinton administration claimed were “provocations” by the Iraqi military, including antiaircraft fire and radar locks on American planes and missiles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_policy_of_the_Bill_Clinton_administration


OK, get him too but the Dippic is charged with killing over 4,000 American soldiers...

Did somebody say Tony Blair?...the Brits are after him as well.

http://cnn.ch/2010/WORLD/europe/01/29/uk.blair.protests/index.html

The Dippic a war criminal? You betcha!





markumX's photo
Sun 02/07/10 07:57 PM
did Iraq violate their peace treaty? yes but that's not cause for a so called war otherwise Israel should be invaded with all of their UN violations. Nations need approval from the UN before invading another country, UN told Bush no..he did it anyway.

metalwing's photo
Sun 02/07/10 08:05 PM
Non-partisan? That's pretty funny.

and the deaths since Obama was elected ...

Thomas3474's photo
Sun 02/07/10 09:05 PM
I think the person who wrote this book seemed to have forgotten that before we invaded Iraq and Afganistan we went to the United nations to take a vote on War and invasion.It was passed by nearly every country with China,Russia,and one other objecting.War and invasion was passed in the House and Congress with no problems at all.So as far as this war somehow being illegal you might as well lock up all the members of the United nations along with all of our congress members.It was totally legal in every aspect both in the United states and in the United nations.

Dragoness's photo
Sun 02/07/10 09:09 PM

I think the person who wrote this book seemed to have forgotten that before we invaded Iraq and Afganistan we went to the United nations to take a vote on War and invasion.It was passed by nearly every country with China,Russia,and one other objecting.War and invasion was passed in the House and Congress with no problems at all.So as far as this war somehow being illegal you might as well lock up all the members of the United nations along with all of our congress members.It was totally legal in every aspect both in the United states and in the United nations.


Wrong.

It was passed with proof of an imminent threat like another 9/11 which there was none.

Preemptive strike was not approved.

So it was illegal.

Again illegal by international laws and will probably not ever be prosecuted. Definitely not here. Only in other countries if at all.

InvictusV's photo
Mon 02/08/10 07:44 AM




Vincent Bugliosi, this guy convicted Charles Manson who was responsible for much less damage than the Dippic...he's an ace and this is a solid case for charging the Dippic with first degree murder.

Here's an interview:

Part 1 of 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBsOJwJ5WO0

"Famed prosecutor and #1 New York Times bestselling author Vincent Bugliosi has written the most powerful, explosive, and thought-provoking book of his storied career. As a prosecutor dedicated to seeking justice, he delivers a non-partisan argument, free from party lines, based upon hard facts and pure objectivity."

"In The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder, Bugliosi presents a tight, meticulously researched legal case that puts George W. Bush on trial in an American courtroom for the murder of nearly 4,000 American soldiers fighting the war in Iraq. Bugliosi sets forth the legal architecture and incontrovertible evidence that President Bush took this nation to war in Iraq under false pretenses—a war that has not only caused the deaths of American soldiers but also over 100,000 innocent Iraqi men, women, and children; cost the United States over one trillion dollars thus far with no end in sight; and alienated many American allies in the Western world.

As a prosecutor who is dedicated to seeking justice, Bugliosi, in his inimitable style, delivers a non-partisan argument, free from party lines and instead based upon hard facts and pure objectivity.

A searing indictment of the President and his administration, The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder also outlines a legally credible pathway to holding our highest government officials accountable for their actions, thereby creating a framework for future occupants of the oval office.

Vincent Bugliosi calls for the United States of America to return to the great nation it once was and can be again. He believes the first step to achieving this goal is to bring those responsible for the war in Iraq to justice."

http://www.prosecutionofbush.com/




They will never do it even though he and Blair and others should be charged.

They used the UN resolutions incorrectly. There was no agreement for a preemptive strike.

That is the illegal part.

Of course it is only illegal in the international jurisdiction and they will not end up charging them.

It does give us a bad name that we preemptively struck and killed millions in a country that did nothing to us.


we going to charge him with war crimes?

On June 26, 1993, Bill Clinton ordered an attack on the Iraqi Intelligence Service's (IIS) principal command and control complex in Baghdad, publicly announced as retaliation for the alleged assassination attempt by the IIS on ex-president George Bush while he was visiting Kuwait in April of that year. Fourteen cruise missiles were launched from the USS Peterson, nine were launched from the USS Chancellorsville. 16 of the missiles hit the target, three struck a residential area, killing nine civilians and wounding 12. Four of the missiles were unaccounted for. This strike was in violation of international law, although that point is contentious.

In December 1998 Clinton ordered four days of concentrated air attacks against military installations in Iraq. After the bombing, Hussein blocked any further UN inspections. For several years afterward, U.S. air assaults continued to target defense installations in Iraq, in response to what the Clinton administration claimed were “provocations” by the Iraqi military, including antiaircraft fire and radar locks on American planes and missiles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_policy_of_the_Bill_Clinton_administration


OK, get him too but the Dippic is charged with killing over 4,000 American soldiers...

Did somebody say Tony Blair?...the Brits are after him as well.

http://cnn.ch/2010/WORLD/europe/01/29/uk.blair.protests/index.html

The Dippic a war criminal? You betcha!







Clinton a War Criminal? You Betcha!!!

But what really throws the impartiality of the court into question is that no individuals--military or political leaders--from NATO countries that intervened in the war have been indicted. Yet there can be no doubt that the United States and NATO forces committed war crimes in the former Yugoslavia--first, in the Bosnian war, and later, in the air war against Serbia in 1999 during the conflict over Kosovo. From the start, there was the complicity of the Western powers in creating the conditions that made war and ethnic cleansing inevitable. As Phil Gasper wrote: In the end, Germany's recognition of Croatia's independence--without any guarantees of the Serb minority's national rights in Croatia--made the outbreak of war and the disintegration of Yugoslavia inevitable. The same holds true for Bosnia. Germany and the U.S. recognized Bosnian independence even though the majority of Bosnian Serbs and Croats--about 51 percent of the republic--had rejected it. By doing so, they put their seal of approval on Bosnia's descent into war.

THEN THERE is the direct complicity of the United States in the greatest single act of ethnic cleansing that took place during the war--Operation Storm in August 1995. By 1993, the U.S. was finally able to strong-arm its reluctant European war partners into adopting a new policy (the old one being an arms embargo on Bosnia)--NATO air strikes against the Bosnian Serbs, combined with arming the Bosnian Muslim army. The policy was called "lift and strike." Peter Galbraith, U.S. ambassador to Croatia, brokered a new alliance--after the two sides had been fighting for months in central Bosnia--between Croatia and the Bosnian Muslims. To "level the playing field" further, a group of retired U.S. generals helped Croatia to devise a military plan, with U.S. and German military aid, to overrun the Serb-held Krajina region. A private U.S. mercenary company, Military Professional Resources Inc., provided training to the Croatian Army.

The August 4, 1995, Croatian offensive, dubbed "Operation Storm," drove upwards of 200,000 Krajina Serbs from their homes. Human rights observers reported the burning of homes, looting and massacres of elderly Serbs too old to flee the region. Croatia was completely "cleansed" of its historic Serbian population, and in the following weeks, U.S. air support for Muslim and Croatian forces allowed them to seize 20 percent of Bosnia back from the Serbs. According to Mark Danner, writing in the New York Review of Books: During two weeks beginning at the end of August, NATO pilots flew 3,400 sorties, destroying Serb antiaircraft batteries, radar sites, ammunition depots, command bunkers, bridges. Meanwhile, the Croats and Bosnians pressed their combined attacks in northwest Bosnia, conquering town after town. Indeed, NATO planes had in effect become the Croatian and Bosnian air force, ensuring that they would succeed, in just over two weeks, in changing the balance of power in Bosnia.

Bill Clinton praised Operation Storm, saying that he was "hopeful Croatia's offensive will turn out to be something that will give us an avenue to a quick diplomatic solution." The three-pronged offensive--the Croat invasion of Krajina, a Muslim attack in central Bosnia and punishing air strikes--pushed all sides to the negotiating table in 1995 to sign the Dayton Accords.

Today, Ante Gotovina, the Croatian general who led Operation Storm, along with two other generals, is currently facing trial on war crimes charges associated with that operation. But Bill Clinton and the U.S. generals who helped plan it and gave the green light for it remain at large. Finally, the 11-week NATO air assault on Serbia during the Kosovo war in 1999 is a war crime that the tribunal won't touch. The U.S. claimed that it went to war to help Kosovar Albanian refugees under attack by Serbian forces. However, the NATO bombing produced another several hundred thousand Kosovar refugees and later helped facilitate the cleansing of the Serb minority from Kosovo.

U.S. and NATO planes conducted several thousand sorties, destroying Serbia's power grid, factories (372 industrial sites), railways, bridges, schools and hospitals. Between 1,200 and 1,500 Serb civilians and as many as 5,000 Serbian military personnel were killed. At one point, NATO planes destroyed a bridge filled with fleeing refugees, killing 87 people. After blowing up Belgrade's TV station with a cruise missile, killing 16 people, NATO officials justified it by claiming that the station had been a source of "propaganda." Directing and encouraging ethnic cleansing, playing one nationality off of another, bombing civilian infrastructure and murdering civilians--these acts engaged in by the U.S. and its NATO allies took place under the pleasant halo of "humanitarian intervention." The perpetrators of these great "humanitarian" deeds will likely never see the inside of a jail cell or face criminal prosecution for their crimes against humanity without a massive alteration in the balance of forces in the world between the powerful and the dispossessed.

http://www.globalpolicy.org/component/content/article/163/29382.html

Quietman_2009's photo
Mon 02/08/10 07:46 AM
if it was gonna happen it would already have happened

InvictusV's photo
Mon 02/08/10 08:57 AM

if it was gonna happen it would already have happened


You are correct.. This whole debate is nothing more than an attempt to take the focus off Obama and his failed 1st year in office..

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Mon 02/08/10 09:54 AM


if it was gonna happen it would already have happened


You are correct.. This whole debate is nothing more than an attempt to take the focus off Obama and his failed 1st year in office..


Not even.

First off we would have to think Obama has failed and he has not. So no distraction needed there.

Bush is a criminal and should be discussed.

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Mon 02/08/10 09:59 AM



if it was gonna happen it would already have happened


You are correct.. This whole debate is nothing more than an attempt to take the focus off Obama and his failed 1st year in office..


Not even.

First off we would have to think Obama has failed and he has not. So no distraction needed there.

Bush is a criminal and should be discussed.



He may not have " failed ", but the majority of people ( at least, the ones in REAL LIFE and not some rigged poll ) sure don't see a whole lot of " success " at this point.

The " hope and change " he touted during his campaign, to the majority of Americans, hasn't materialized.

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Mon 02/08/10 11:41 AM
Edited by InvictusV on Mon 02/08/10 11:43 AM



if it was gonna happen it would already have happened


You are correct.. This whole debate is nothing more than an attempt to take the focus off Obama and his failed 1st year in office..


Not even.

First off we would have to think Obama has failed and he has not. So no distraction needed there.

Bush is a criminal and should be discussed.



That is your opinion.

The facts are.. $3trillion in debt. No healthcare. No end to the wars.. No climate change hoax wealth redistribution.. no jobs.. guantanamo is still open..

I would hardly call that success, but then again, I didn't vote for him, so I am not compelled to keep "hoping"..

Oh Yeah... Clinton is a war criminal and anyone with a shred of creditability would agree..

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