Topic: religious extreemist members
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Thu 01/28/10 05:29 PM


You cannot kill a breeze, a wind , a fragrance you cannot kill a dream or an ambition. God, manufactured by mortals in their own quintessential image, exists only to make daliy life bearable despite the path that everyone of us treads toward extinction.
As long as men are obliged to die, some of them unable to endure teh prospect will concoct fond illusions. we cannot assassinate or kill an illusion. In fact, Illusion is more likely to kill us- For God puts to death everything that stands up to him, Begining with Reason, Intelligence and the Critical Mind. All the rest follows in a Chain reaction. My opinion, its very true in order to use faith you have to close the eye of reason


God is not manufactured, he is as real as you and I. And not all men are abliged to die, the only ones that will die are those who deny God, and or do not keep the commandments the best they can. The rest of man will be rewarded with heaven and have eternal life.


perception, god is only what you perceve him to be. he or it or she can only be a perception because no one never seen, talked, or pretty much anything

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Thu 01/28/10 05:33 PM





You cannot kill a breeze, a wind , a fragrance you cannot kill a dream or an ambition. God, manufactured by mortals in their own quintessential image, exists only to make daliy life bearable despite the path that everyone of us treads toward extinction.
As long as men are obliged to die, some of them unable to endure teh prospect will concoct fond illusions. we cannot assassinate or kill an illusion. In fact, Illusion is more likely to kill us- For God puts to death everything that stands up to him, Begining with Reason, Intelligence and the Critical Mind. All the rest follows in a Chain reaction. My opinion, its very true in order to use faith you have to close the eye of reason


God is not manufactured, he is as real as you and I. And not all men are abliged to die, the only ones that will die are those who deny God, and or do not keep the commandments the best they can. The rest of man will be rewarded with heaven and have eternal life.


"HE" Your God is always described as MALE. If there is a perfect creator I find it hard to believe that IT would have a sex closer to man. Why is that? I have to agree with Frank- Man made the God and Bible to suit his needs. Not to spread the love and acceptance Jesus maybe talked of. Have beliefs and faiths. Don't use it to spread discontent among your fellow humans just because you refuse to accept them.


God has no gender, i do not know of one verse where it calls God a he. There is no need for gender in heaven for different genders is for reproduction and their is no need for reproduction in heaven.


And yet you continue to call God a he. And many of you do. You also probably expect the woman to stay home with the children, do all the house chores and have your dinner on the table by the time you get home from work. Regardless if there was a perfect creator. How could IT possibly be jealous? And that is in the Bible- that it's a jealous God. Jealousy is supposedly a human fault. How could something be perfect possibly function with such faulty programing?


meh god is what you perceve him or it to be. granted I dont really care, because Im not religious, but how about actually asking a religious person that and watch you get into an arguement lol.

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Thu 01/28/10 05:40 PM






You cannot kill a breeze, a wind , a fragrance you cannot kill a dream or an ambition. God, manufactured by mortals in their own quintessential image, exists only to make daliy life bearable despite the path that everyone of us treads toward extinction.
As long as men are obliged to die, some of them unable to endure teh prospect will concoct fond illusions. we cannot assassinate or kill an illusion. In fact, Illusion is more likely to kill us- For God puts to death everything that stands up to him, Begining with Reason, Intelligence and the Critical Mind. All the rest follows in a Chain reaction. My opinion, its very true in order to use faith you have to close the eye of reason


God is not manufactured, he is as real as you and I. And not all men are abliged to die, the only ones that will die are those who deny God, and or do not keep the commandments the best they can. The rest of man will be rewarded with heaven and have eternal life.


"HE" Your God is always described as MALE. If there is a perfect creator I find it hard to believe that IT would have a sex closer to man. Why is that? I have to agree with Frank- Man made the God and Bible to suit his needs. Not to spread the love and acceptance Jesus maybe talked of. Have beliefs and faiths. Don't use it to spread discontent among your fellow humans just because you refuse to accept them.


God has no gender, i do not know of one verse where it calls God a he. There is no need for gender in heaven for different genders is for reproduction and their is no need for reproduction in heaven.


And yet you continue to call God a he. And many of you do. You also probably expect the woman to stay home with the children, do all the house chores and have your dinner on the table by the time you get home from work. Regardless if there was a perfect creator. How could IT possibly be jealous? And that is in the Bible- that it's a jealous God. Jealousy is supposedly a human fault. How could something be perfect possibly function with such faulty programing?


Jealousey is an emotion, and all living beings have emotion. And no "I" do not expect the woman to stay home with the children and or do all the house work. That would differ from family to family depending on the structure of the family and the best possibility operation of the family. To run a family as God has instructed us to is for the man to go out working and support the family while the woman takes care of the house. This would work fine if so many men weren't lazy as all get out and would actually go out and work.
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god is a jealous god, lol spends a lot of time wiping out people and making sure that hes the only one you worship. sounds pretty jealous to me. and again its your perception of what you THINK god wants. lol its funny because for everyone Gods will is something different, god never said anything about this is how your family is suppose to be, never talks about people being gay, ugh its all destructive lmfao.

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Thu 01/28/10 05:40 PM



You cannot kill a breeze, a wind , a fragrance you cannot kill a dream or an ambition. God, manufactured by mortals in their own quintessential image, exists only to make daliy life bearable despite the path that everyone of us treads toward extinction.
As long as men are obliged to die, some of them unable to endure teh prospect will concoct fond illusions. we cannot assassinate or kill an illusion. In fact, Illusion is more likely to kill us- For God puts to death everything that stands up to him, Begining with Reason, Intelligence and the Critical Mind. All the rest follows in a Chain reaction. My opinion, its very true in order to use faith you have to close the eye of reason


God is not manufactured, he is as real as you and I. And not all men are abliged to die, the only ones that will die are those who deny God, and or do not keep the commandments the best they can. The rest of man will be rewarded with heaven and have eternal life.


perception, god is only what you perceve him to be. he or it or she can only be a perception because no one never seen, talked, or pretty much anything


it's not that NO ONE has ever seen God. Only the ones that look see God. God is everywhere, someone helping someone out - God is there, a child being born - God is there and many many more. And yes alot of people talk to God, just most people don't listen. God talks to us in what we call our conscence, and we pray to God.

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Thu 01/28/10 05:41 PM

wow

some people are just nuckin futz


lmfao. I agree

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Thu 01/28/10 05:43 PM







You cannot kill a breeze, a wind , a fragrance you cannot kill a dream or an ambition. God, manufactured by mortals in their own quintessential image, exists only to make daliy life bearable despite the path that everyone of us treads toward extinction.
As long as men are obliged to die, some of them unable to endure teh prospect will concoct fond illusions. we cannot assassinate or kill an illusion. In fact, Illusion is more likely to kill us- For God puts to death everything that stands up to him, Begining with Reason, Intelligence and the Critical Mind. All the rest follows in a Chain reaction. My opinion, its very true in order to use faith you have to close the eye of reason


God is not manufactured, he is as real as you and I. And not all men are abliged to die, the only ones that will die are those who deny God, and or do not keep the commandments the best they can. The rest of man will be rewarded with heaven and have eternal life.


"HE" Your God is always described as MALE. If there is a perfect creator I find it hard to believe that IT would have a sex closer to man. Why is that? I have to agree with Frank- Man made the God and Bible to suit his needs. Not to spread the love and acceptance Jesus maybe talked of. Have beliefs and faiths. Don't use it to spread discontent among your fellow humans just because you refuse to accept them.


God has no gender, i do not know of one verse where it calls God a he. There is no need for gender in heaven for different genders is for reproduction and their is no need for reproduction in heaven.


And yet you continue to call God a he. And many of you do. You also probably expect the woman to stay home with the children, do all the house chores and have your dinner on the table by the time you get home from work. Regardless if there was a perfect creator. How could IT possibly be jealous? And that is in the Bible- that it's a jealous God. Jealousy is supposedly a human fault. How could something be perfect possibly function with such faulty programing?


Jealousey is an emotion, and all living beings have emotion. And no "I" do not expect the woman to stay home with the children and or do all the house work. That would differ from family to family depending on the structure of the family and the best possibility operation of the family. To run a family as God has instructed us to is for the man to go out working and support the family while the woman takes care of the house. This would work fine if so many men weren't lazy as all get out and would actually go out and work.
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god is a jealous god, lol spends a lot of time wiping out people and making sure that hes the only one you worship. sounds pretty jealous to me. and again its your perception of what you THINK god wants. lol its funny because for everyone Gods will is something different, god never said anything about this is how your family is suppose to be, never talks about people being gay, ugh its all destructive lmfao.


again that is cause people don't listen. Specifically says in the bible for man not to lay with man. And yes it tells us how the family is suppose to be, The dad is the head of the family, the provider, then the mother is to take care of the family emotionally, and the living arrangements eg., keeping it clean, cooking ect. And the dad is also obligated to teaching the family of the lord and what we're suppose to live like and not suppose to live like.

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Thu 01/28/10 05:46 PM




You cannot kill a breeze, a wind , a fragrance you cannot kill a dream or an ambition. God, manufactured by mortals in their own quintessential image, exists only to make daliy life bearable despite the path that everyone of us treads toward extinction.
As long as men are obliged to die, some of them unable to endure teh prospect will concoct fond illusions. we cannot assassinate or kill an illusion. In fact, Illusion is more likely to kill us- For God puts to death everything that stands up to him, Begining with Reason, Intelligence and the Critical Mind. All the rest follows in a Chain reaction. My opinion, its very true in order to use faith you have to close the eye of reason


God is not manufactured, he is as real as you and I. And not all men are abliged to die, the only ones that will die are those who deny God, and or do not keep the commandments the best they can. The rest of man will be rewarded with heaven and have eternal life.


perception, god is only what you perceve him to be. he or it or she can only be a perception because no one never seen, talked, or pretty much anything


it's not that NO ONE has ever seen God. Only the ones that look see God. God is everywhere, someone helping someone out - God is there, a child being born - God is there and many many more. And yes alot of people talk to God, just most people don't listen. God talks to us in what we call our conscence, and we pray to God.


rule of thumb. learn about the differences between the left and right side of the brain. No one knows what god looks like, sounds pretty weird that god only speaks to selected people lol and everyone else is sitting there taking someones word for it. A lot of people think they are talking to god, but its only them. if god was real i dont think he would talk to people in their heads as you say. like do you even see what you are saying. god would in fact talk to everyone out loud in the open, not in our heads. the only voice we hear in our heads is our selves. like i said read up on the left and right hemiphere of our brains. lol we have the capacity to create, rationalize and destroy (our brains) in ways of thinking.

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Thu 01/28/10 05:48 PM





You cannot kill a breeze, a wind , a fragrance you cannot kill a dream or an ambition. God, manufactured by mortals in their own quintessential image, exists only to make daliy life bearable despite the path that everyone of us treads toward extinction.
As long as men are obliged to die, some of them unable to endure teh prospect will concoct fond illusions. we cannot assassinate or kill an illusion. In fact, Illusion is more likely to kill us- For God puts to death everything that stands up to him, Begining with Reason, Intelligence and the Critical Mind. All the rest follows in a Chain reaction. My opinion, its very true in order to use faith you have to close the eye of reason


God is not manufactured, he is as real as you and I. And not all men are abliged to die, the only ones that will die are those who deny God, and or do not keep the commandments the best they can. The rest of man will be rewarded with heaven and have eternal life.


perception, god is only what you perceve him to be. he or it or she can only be a perception because no one never seen, talked, or pretty much anything


it's not that NO ONE has ever seen God. Only the ones that look see God. God is everywhere, someone helping someone out - God is there, a child being born - God is there and many many more. And yes alot of people talk to God, just most people don't listen. God talks to us in what we call our conscence, and we pray to God.


rule of thumb. learn about the differences between the left and right side of the brain. No one knows what god looks like, sounds pretty weird that god only speaks to selected people lol and everyone else is sitting there taking someones word for it. A lot of people think they are talking to god, but its only them. if god was real i dont think he would talk to people in their heads as you say. like do you even see what you are saying. god would in fact talk to everyone out loud in the open, not in our heads. the only voice we hear in our heads is our selves. like i said read up on the left and right hemiphere of our brains. lol we have the capacity to create, rationalize and destroy (our brains) in ways of thinking.


What in the world does it matter what God looks like? that is irrelevant. And God doesn't only speak to selected people, he speaks to everyone, just again people don't listen.

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Thu 01/28/10 05:51 PM






You cannot kill a breeze, a wind , a fragrance you cannot kill a dream or an ambition. God, manufactured by mortals in their own quintessential image, exists only to make daliy life bearable despite the path that everyone of us treads toward extinction.
As long as men are obliged to die, some of them unable to endure teh prospect will concoct fond illusions. we cannot assassinate or kill an illusion. In fact, Illusion is more likely to kill us- For God puts to death everything that stands up to him, Begining with Reason, Intelligence and the Critical Mind. All the rest follows in a Chain reaction. My opinion, its very true in order to use faith you have to close the eye of reason


God is not manufactured, he is as real as you and I. And not all men are abliged to die, the only ones that will die are those who deny God, and or do not keep the commandments the best they can. The rest of man will be rewarded with heaven and have eternal life.


perception, god is only what you perceve him to be. he or it or she can only be a perception because no one never seen, talked, or pretty much anything


it's not that NO ONE has ever seen God. Only the ones that look see God. God is everywhere, someone helping someone out - God is there, a child being born - God is there and many many more. And yes alot of people talk to God, just most people don't listen. God talks to us in what we call our conscence, and we pray to God.


rule of thumb. learn about the differences between the left and right side of the brain. No one knows what god looks like, sounds pretty weird that god only speaks to selected people lol and everyone else is sitting there taking someones word for it. A lot of people think they are talking to god, but its only them. if god was real i dont think he would talk to people in their heads as you say. like do you even see what you are saying. god would in fact talk to everyone out loud in the open, not in our heads. the only voice we hear in our heads is our selves. like i said read up on the left and right hemiphere of our brains. lol we have the capacity to create, rationalize and destroy (our brains) in ways of thinking.


What in the world does it matter what God looks like? that is irrelevant. And God doesn't only speak to selected people, he speaks to everyone, just again people don't listen.


and God doesn't speak outloud to us cause our relation with God is a personal thing. It says to go to your closet to worship God, as in do it to where it's only you and God. So therefor God does the same. Our relation with God is personal cause it's no one else buiseness what is goin on between you and God.

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Thu 01/28/10 05:52 PM








You cannot kill a breeze, a wind , a fragrance you cannot kill a dream or an ambition. God, manufactured by mortals in their own quintessential image, exists only to make daliy life bearable despite the path that everyone of us treads toward extinction.
As long as men are obliged to die, some of them unable to endure teh prospect will concoct fond illusions. we cannot assassinate or kill an illusion. In fact, Illusion is more likely to kill us- For God puts to death everything that stands up to him, Begining with Reason, Intelligence and the Critical Mind. All the rest follows in a Chain reaction. My opinion, its very true in order to use faith you have to close the eye of reason


God is not manufactured, he is as real as you and I. And not all men are abliged to die, the only ones that will die are those who deny God, and or do not keep the commandments the best they can. The rest of man will be rewarded with heaven and have eternal life.


"HE" Your God is always described as MALE. If there is a perfect creator I find it hard to believe that IT would have a sex closer to man. Why is that? I have to agree with Frank- Man made the God and Bible to suit his needs. Not to spread the love and acceptance Jesus maybe talked of. Have beliefs and faiths. Don't use it to spread discontent among your fellow humans just because you refuse to accept them.


God has no gender, i do not know of one verse where it calls God a he. There is no need for gender in heaven for different genders is for reproduction and their is no need for reproduction in heaven.


And yet you continue to call God a he. And many of you do. You also probably expect the woman to stay home with the children, do all the house chores and have your dinner on the table by the time you get home from work. Regardless if there was a perfect creator. How could IT possibly be jealous? And that is in the Bible- that it's a jealous God. Jealousy is supposedly a human fault. How could something be perfect possibly function with such faulty programing?


Jealousey is an emotion, and all living beings have emotion. And no "I" do not expect the woman to stay home with the children and or do all the house work. That would differ from family to family depending on the structure of the family and the best possibility operation of the family. To run a family as God has instructed us to is for the man to go out working and support the family while the woman takes care of the house. This would work fine if so many men weren't lazy as all get out and would actually go out and work.
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god is a jealous god, lol spends a lot of time wiping out people and making sure that hes the only one you worship. sounds pretty jealous to me. and again its your perception of what you THINK god wants. lol its funny because for everyone Gods will is something different, god never said anything about this is how your family is suppose to be, never talks about people being gay, ugh its all destructive lmfao.


again that is cause people don't listen. Specifically says in the bible for man not to lay with man. And yes it tells us how the family is suppose to be, The dad is the head of the family, the provider, then the mother is to take care of the family emotionally, and the living arrangements eg., keeping it clean, cooking ect. And the dad is also obligated to teaching the family of the lord and what we're suppose to live like and not suppose to live like.


to each their own my brother. I love people, I love to see people progress and strive to be sucessful. I am a humanitarian. I dont like to see people fight, or murder or kill. and religion is the biggest factor in all of that. The dark ages, is one. religion keeps people in a naive bubble, it controls them, stops certain advancemnent, it promotes hate, Bigotry, it makes people delusional, deranged in making ethical desisions. its not with all just with some. but some people need the myth to carry on. it empowers them, makes them feel good, enlightens, all that. but its all coming from them, not a higher power. but its only used by people who need it.

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Thu 01/28/10 05:54 PM
Edited by Deleted account!! on Thu 01/28/10 05:59 PM







You cannot kill a breeze, a wind , a fragrance you cannot kill a dream or an ambition. God, manufactured by mortals in their own quintessential image, exists only to make daliy life bearable despite the path that everyone of us treads toward extinction.
As long as men are obliged to die, some of them unable to endure teh prospect will concoct fond illusions. we cannot assassinate or kill an illusion. In fact, Illusion is more likely to kill us- For God puts to death everything that stands up to him, Begining with Reason, Intelligence and the Critical Mind. All the rest follows in a Chain reaction. My opinion, its very true in order to use faith you have to close the eye of reason


God is not manufactured, he is as real as you and I. And not all men are abliged to die, the only ones that will die are those who deny God, and or do not keep the commandments the best they can. The rest of man will be rewarded with heaven and have eternal life.


perception, god is only what you perceve him to be. he or it or she can only be a perception because no one never seen, talked, or pretty much anything


it's not that NO ONE has ever seen God. Only the ones that look see God. God is everywhere, someone helping someone out - God is there, a child being born - God is there and many many more. And yes alot of people talk to God, just most people don't listen. God talks to us in what we call our conscence, and we pray to God.


rule of thumb. learn about the differences between the left and right side of the brain. No one knows what god looks like, sounds pretty weird that god only speaks to selected people lol and everyone else is sitting there taking someones word for it. A lot of people think they are talking to god, but its only them. if god was real i dont think he would talk to people in their heads as you say. like do you even see what you are saying. god would in fact talk to everyone out loud in the open, not in our heads. the only voice we hear in our heads is our selves. like i said read up on the left and right hemiphere of our brains. lol we have the capacity to create, rationalize and destroy (our brains) in ways of thinking.


What in the world does it matter what God looks like? that is irrelevant. And God doesn't only speak to selected people, he speaks to everyone, just again people don't listen.


and God doesn't speak outloud to us cause our relation with God is a personal thing. It says to go to your closet to worship God, as in do it to where it's only you and God. So therefor God does the same. Our relation with God is personal cause it's no one else buiseness what is goin on between you and God.


thanks you just proved that god is only exists in the mind. Point and case/ and as I say again. God is only used by people who need it.
you proved it. everyone perceives god differently. everyone perceves "Gods Will" differently. . . why is that because its all in their head. God only serves for the foundation of that person who is thinking of (him)
so as I said, if god was actually psyically real, then he would In fact talk to everyone openly as if he did with adam and eve. because if they both talked to god only in their head, they would be arguing all the time god told me this, well god told me that, you are wrong, no you are.

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Thu 01/28/10 05:56 PM









You cannot kill a breeze, a wind , a fragrance you cannot kill a dream or an ambition. God, manufactured by mortals in their own quintessential image, exists only to make daliy life bearable despite the path that everyone of us treads toward extinction.
As long as men are obliged to die, some of them unable to endure teh prospect will concoct fond illusions. we cannot assassinate or kill an illusion. In fact, Illusion is more likely to kill us- For God puts to death everything that stands up to him, Begining with Reason, Intelligence and the Critical Mind. All the rest follows in a Chain reaction. My opinion, its very true in order to use faith you have to close the eye of reason


God is not manufactured, he is as real as you and I. And not all men are abliged to die, the only ones that will die are those who deny God, and or do not keep the commandments the best they can. The rest of man will be rewarded with heaven and have eternal life.


"HE" Your God is always described as MALE. If there is a perfect creator I find it hard to believe that IT would have a sex closer to man. Why is that? I have to agree with Frank- Man made the God and Bible to suit his needs. Not to spread the love and acceptance Jesus maybe talked of. Have beliefs and faiths. Don't use it to spread discontent among your fellow humans just because you refuse to accept them.


God has no gender, i do not know of one verse where it calls God a he. There is no need for gender in heaven for different genders is for reproduction and their is no need for reproduction in heaven.


And yet you continue to call God a he. And many of you do. You also probably expect the woman to stay home with the children, do all the house chores and have your dinner on the table by the time you get home from work. Regardless if there was a perfect creator. How could IT possibly be jealous? And that is in the Bible- that it's a jealous God. Jealousy is supposedly a human fault. How could something be perfect possibly function with such faulty programing?


Jealousey is an emotion, and all living beings have emotion. And no "I" do not expect the woman to stay home with the children and or do all the house work. That would differ from family to family depending on the structure of the family and the best possibility operation of the family. To run a family as God has instructed us to is for the man to go out working and support the family while the woman takes care of the house. This would work fine if so many men weren't lazy as all get out and would actually go out and work.
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god is a jealous god, lol spends a lot of time wiping out people and making sure that hes the only one you worship. sounds pretty jealous to me. and again its your perception of what you THINK god wants. lol its funny because for everyone Gods will is something different, god never said anything about this is how your family is suppose to be, never talks about people being gay, ugh its all destructive lmfao.


again that is cause people don't listen. Specifically says in the bible for man not to lay with man. And yes it tells us how the family is suppose to be, The dad is the head of the family, the provider, then the mother is to take care of the family emotionally, and the living arrangements eg., keeping it clean, cooking ect. And the dad is also obligated to teaching the family of the lord and what we're suppose to live like and not suppose to live like.


to each their own my brother. I love people, I love to see people progress and strive to be sucessful. I am a humanitarian. I dont like to see people fight, or murder or kill. and religion is the biggest factor in all of that. The dark ages, is one. religion keeps people in a naive bubble, it controls them, stops certain advancemnent, it promotes hate, Bigotry, it makes people delusional, deranged in making ethical desisions. its not with all just with some. but some people need the myth to carry on. it empowers them, makes them feel good, enlightens, all that. but its all coming from them, not a higher power. but its only used by people who need it.


Christianity in general teaches us to love everyone and not to kill. So i don't know where you're getting that information. And teaches us not to hate anyone for hate is of the devil. And it's not a myth bro, and i pray that you're eyes are opened to the truth and if not that God has mercy on you. May you're life be blessed bro.

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Thu 01/28/10 06:09 PM










You cannot kill a breeze, a wind , a fragrance you cannot kill a dream or an ambition. God, manufactured by mortals in their own quintessential image, exists only to make daliy life bearable despite the path that everyone of us treads toward extinction.
As long as men are obliged to die, some of them unable to endure teh prospect will concoct fond illusions. we cannot assassinate or kill an illusion. In fact, Illusion is more likely to kill us- For God puts to death everything that stands up to him, Begining with Reason, Intelligence and the Critical Mind. All the rest follows in a Chain reaction. My opinion, its very true in order to use faith you have to close the eye of reason


God is not manufactured, he is as real as you and I. And not all men are abliged to die, the only ones that will die are those who deny God, and or do not keep the commandments the best they can. The rest of man will be rewarded with heaven and have eternal life.


"HE" Your God is always described as MALE. If there is a perfect creator I find it hard to believe that IT would have a sex closer to man. Why is that? I have to agree with Frank- Man made the God and Bible to suit his needs. Not to spread the love and acceptance Jesus maybe talked of. Have beliefs and faiths. Don't use it to spread discontent among your fellow humans just because you refuse to accept them.


God has no gender, i do not know of one verse where it calls God a he. There is no need for gender in heaven for different genders is for reproduction and their is no need for reproduction in heaven.


And yet you continue to call God a he. And many of you do. You also probably expect the woman to stay home with the children, do all the house chores and have your dinner on the table by the time you get home from work. Regardless if there was a perfect creator. How could IT possibly be jealous? And that is in the Bible- that it's a jealous God. Jealousy is supposedly a human fault. How could something be perfect possibly function with such faulty programing?


Jealousey is an emotion, and all living beings have emotion. And no "I" do not expect the woman to stay home with the children and or do all the house work. That would differ from family to family depending on the structure of the family and the best possibility operation of the family. To run a family as God has instructed us to is for the man to go out working and support the family while the woman takes care of the house. This would work fine if so many men weren't lazy as all get out and would actually go out and work.
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god is a jealous god, lol spends a lot of time wiping out people and making sure that hes the only one you worship. sounds pretty jealous to me. and again its your perception of what you THINK god wants. lol its funny because for everyone Gods will is something different, god never said anything about this is how your family is suppose to be, never talks about people being gay, ugh its all destructive lmfao.


again that is cause people don't listen. Specifically says in the bible for man not to lay with man. And yes it tells us how the family is suppose to be, The dad is the head of the family, the provider, then the mother is to take care of the family emotionally, and the living arrangements eg., keeping it clean, cooking ect. And the dad is also obligated to teaching the family of the lord and what we're suppose to live like and not suppose to live like.


to each their own my brother. I love people, I love to see people progress and strive to be sucessful. I am a humanitarian. I dont like to see people fight, or murder or kill. and religion is the biggest factor in all of that. The dark ages, is one. religion keeps people in a naive bubble, it controls them, stops certain advancemnent, it promotes hate, Bigotry, it makes people delusional, deranged in making ethical desisions. its not with all just with some. but some people need the myth to carry on. it empowers them, makes them feel good, enlightens, all that. but its all coming from them, not a higher power. but its only used by people who need it.


Christianity in general teaches us to love everyone and not to kill. So i don't know where you're getting that information. And teaches us not to hate anyone for hate is of the devil. And it's not a myth bro, and i pray that you're eyes are opened to the truth and if not that God has mercy on you. May you're life be blessed bro.


well first you must understand what a MYTH is. let me explain it
a myth is an idea that, while widely believed, is false, failing to correspond with reality. a myth serves as an orienting and mobilizing story for a people, the focus is not on the story's relation to reality but on its function. A story cannot function unless its believed to be true in the community or the nation

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Sun 01/31/10 06:03 PM
I'd like to go back to one of DoDMember's original statements because I am not understanding the meaning behind it.

"but if they were actualy fundamentalists they wouldnt have accounts here. there just hipacrits who want it both ways."

I did ask if fundamentalists were banned and was told no but if they were really fundamentalists they wouldn't have memberships here. My question of 'why not' still stands. What both ways and why would we not want to make friends or date people? Even if I took the 'be fruitful and multiply' at face value I'd still have to meet people to do that. And I am commanded to 'love my neighbor as myself' so it stands to reason that I'd need to meet my neighbors to do that. Not hating here, just asking for clarification.

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Wed 02/10/10 03:35 PM


I understand the question. why are people acting double sided, feeding both sides. I dont even know how people do it. I am on the side of doubt, I find it hard to believe that A supreme being creates faulty products (humans) and then blames them for being the way they are. truth be told, if you are a creator of anything, and there are flaws in your creation. the flaws in the creation REFLECT flaws in the creator. if there are flaws in the creator then the creator cannot be all powerful. so therefore, the idea of god is a flaw because It was made with the human Mind. God therefore didnt make humans, humans made God


You are quite correct. Good logical thinking. I hope you post often.


Actually - this is a prototype example of fallious logic, and makes no sense at all. The assumed premise here is that man is analigous to any and everything he creates - thus attempting to equate God to man. However, there isn't anything on this planet created by man that comes even CLOSE to the creation of man himself - therefore to attempt to equate God's creation of man, and man's creation of anything as somehow being analogious or equal - is at best laughable, and in the absolute - delusional.

You might want to reconsider the standard by which you qualify logic.

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Thu 02/11/10 09:07 AM



I understand the question. why are people acting double sided, feeding both sides. I dont even know how people do it. I am on the side of doubt, I find it hard to believe that A supreme being creates faulty products (humans) and then blames them for being the way they are. truth be told, if you are a creator of anything, and there are flaws in your creation. the flaws in the creation REFLECT flaws in the creator. if there are flaws in the creator then the creator cannot be all powerful. so therefore, the idea of god is a flaw because It was made with the human Mind. God therefore didnt make humans, humans made God


You are quite correct. Good logical thinking. I hope you post often.


Actually - this is a prototype example of fallious logic, and makes no sense at all. The assumed premise here is that man is analigous to any and everything he creates - thus attempting to equate God to man. However, there isn't anything on this planet created by man that comes even CLOSE to the creation of man himself - therefore to attempt to equate God's creation of man, and man's creation of anything as somehow being analogious or equal - is at best laughable, and in the absolute - delusional.

You might want to reconsider the standard by which you qualify logic.


But you're ASSUMING (and we all know what that does- makes an A$$ out of Adam) that the person in question has started out thinking and/or believing that there is a supreme being. If they do not, then their conclusion is logical. Your logic is excellent an example of fallacious (yeah that's called spell check!) logic because you surmise that one MUST start out believing what YOU do. If there were a supreme being that did create humanity in it's image then it created us to be analogous to it- or as close as it could get us to be.
Take birth for example. "God" does not do this. We do- this supreme being is very scientific for it supposedly created the first humans. It may have created the souls of every human but it did not have any part in making any human after the first two. This is because of sex, all the components wherein conception is envolved and then birth. Heck, "God" created us to have sex- to make more of us- therefore becoming like it (as close as "God" could get without making more supreme beings like itself).

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Fri 02/12/10 12:45 AM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 02/12/10 12:50 AM

I'd like to go back to one of DoDMember's original statements because I am not understanding the meaning behind it.

"but if they were actualy fundamentalists they wouldnt have accounts here. there just hipacrits who want it both ways."

I did ask if fundamentalists were banned and was told no but if they were really fundamentalists they wouldn't have memberships here. My question of 'why not' still stands. What both ways and why would we not want to make friends or date people? Even if I took the 'be fruitful and multiply' at face value I'd still have to meet people to do that. And I am commanded to 'love my neighbor as myself' so it stands to reason that I'd need to meet my neighbors to do that. Not hating here, just asking for clarification.



Ya know what? I was speaking with my mother about this the other day and there is this common assumption that DATING refers automatically to a sexual relationship. This is pretty upsetting to me because I so often hear adults telling kids they should 'date' several different people before settling down...what an awful message if date=sex. I think when dating is a description of two individuals spending time(platonic) together to get to know each other,,that advice makes much more sense,,,,and I think even christian fundamentalists can date if sex is not the goal.


as for the topic of this thread, after reading through these threads I think that the EXTREMIST believers who think their sins are morally above everyone elses sins are as equally frustrating as the EXTREMIST non believers who think they are inherently more intelligent for not believing.

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Fri 02/12/10 12:19 PM


I'd like to go back to one of DoDMember's original statements because I am not understanding the meaning behind it.

"but if they were actualy fundamentalists they wouldnt have accounts here. there just hipacrits who want it both ways."

I did ask if fundamentalists were banned and was told no but if they were really fundamentalists they wouldn't have memberships here. My question of 'why not' still stands. What both ways and why would we not want to make friends or date people? Even if I took the 'be fruitful and multiply' at face value I'd still have to meet people to do that. And I am commanded to 'love my neighbor as myself' so it stands to reason that I'd need to meet my neighbors to do that. Not hating here, just asking for clarification.



Ya know what? I was speaking with my mother about this the other day and there is this common assumption that DATING refers automatically to a sexual relationship. This is pretty upsetting to me because I so often hear adults telling kids they should 'date' several different people before settling down...what an awful message if date=sex. I think when dating is a description of two individuals spending time(platonic) together to get to know each other,,that advice makes much more sense,,,,and I think even christian fundamentalists can date if sex is not the goal.


as for the topic of this thread, after reading through these threads I think that the EXTREMIST believers who think their sins are morally above everyone elses sins are as equally frustrating as the EXTREMIST non believers who think they are inherently more intelligent for not believing.



:thumbsup: It's about time someone said that dating doesn't refer to sex. Thank the maker, whomever they are.

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Fri 02/12/10 12:47 PM



I understand the question. why are people acting double sided, feeding both sides. I dont even know how people do it. I am on the side of doubt, I find it hard to believe that A supreme being creates faulty products (humans) and then blames them for being the way they are. truth be told, if you are a creator of anything, and there are flaws in your creation. the flaws in the creation REFLECT flaws in the creator. if there are flaws in the creator then the creator cannot be all powerful. so therefore, the idea of god is a flaw because It was made with the human Mind. God therefore didnt make humans, humans made God


Could you enlighten us on what it is that God created in man that is a flaw, and not something that is a result of the choices of man and the degradation of the planet, society, and his physical well being which are a result of the choices of man and not the creation of God?


people arent perfect. people make mistakes. people have free will. so since we arent perfect, religious people say we are made from god. so therefore god created imperfections. if you made a robot then that robot was programed to be a certain way, if that robot does things a certain way its because of the way it was programed.


Your logic is flawed. You have fallen into the fallacy of the shifting middle. You are attempting to equate the physical existance of man with the choices that man makes and saying that God is responsible for both. Not true. God is responsible for what he created - man is responsible for what he does with it. I can "create" a perfect car - but if I give the keys to you and you crash it - who's fault is that? mine because it is "capable" of being misused? Not quite. The flaw exists in your crashing the vehicle - not how it was made in the first place.

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Fri 02/12/10 12:53 PM



I understand the question. why are people acting double sided, feeding both sides. I dont even know how people do it. I am on the side of doubt, I find it hard to believe that A supreme being creates faulty products (humans) and then blames them for being the way they are. truth be told, if you are a creator of anything, and there are flaws in your creation. the flaws in the creation REFLECT flaws in the creator. if there are flaws in the creator then the creator cannot be all powerful. so therefore, the idea of god is a flaw because It was made with the human Mind. God therefore didnt make humans, humans made God


Could you enlighten us on what it is that God created in man that is a flaw, and not something that is a result of the choices of man and the degradation of the planet, society, and his physical well being which are a result of the choices of man and not the creation of God?

another example is with a child. when a child continuously acts up and is behaving in a bad way. Its the parents fault for not handling the situation, the parents created the child, so that just shows that the parent isnt perfect. which makes sense. but to have a almighty powerful god, creator of the worlds and universe and every thing he makes is perfect lol, if he created us, why do we do imperfect things, lie, steal, murder, kill, destroy, hate etc, free will yes, but to religious people who created us.....if I was a perfect so called god I would have created my creation without those imperfections and negativity in the first place. you find loop holes in every system known to man, simply because they were created by man.


Wrong again. The parents did not "create" the child - they procreated it. They merely are perpetuation the creation process - not establishing it. God created Adam - and from Adam, Eve. After that, his involvement ended. As part of that creation, he established what we falsely call "free will", which as Funches will tell you - does not exist. Better refered to as "Freedom of choice" - this attribute of man is better than anything man could come up with in the way of behavior modification - as any alternative is flawed, and has been exploited by Hollywood for years.

Try again - I think you're getting closer. However, you are just not going to be able to site a flaw with God's creation, because there isn't one.