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I would live in a pop up tent and eat ramen noodles everyday with a man that had a spiritual edge, and made me feel beautiful when he looked at me and made me feel safe when his arms were around me... I know the guy just for you! You'll have to wait twenty to life for him, though, because he's a convicted serial killer. Yeah, well they always find god in prison... Some get a degree in law. Would a woman date a lawyer, if she were a doctor? |
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I don't think it matters what you do, whether you work or not if a person is interested in you then they are... You've gotten an idea from the posts who might or might not want someone in certain jobs or without jobs so that should give you the enlightenment you seek, I would think..
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I don't think the way your question was phrased calls for her to ask "if you have a job"... What does it matter if posters want a person they date to have a job? It is their choice what preferences they choose in people they date.. Wanting someone to have a job is no different than wanting to date peoople of a certain height... If you're going to ask questions, you'll need to understand that 1) everyone has an opinion 2) it is each persons right to whichever preference they choose and 3) you may not always like the opinions you get but if you're going to complain about them either a) don't ask the questions or b) state "answer ...." and tell them how to answer... It'll be a dead thread but hey, you won't have to deal with differing opinions...  I am not complaining about anyones opinions, mearly playing devils advocate as I am finding the debate stimulating and as yet I've not put my cards on the table as to whether I work or not. I think people have surmised that you do not work due to health reasons b/c of your posts... Also, you asked what does your occupation matter not "do I have a job" or "do I have to have a job" At present yes although I do do some volentary work but if I was a sewage worker would that make me a better person or if I was a debt collector would that be better and if so why? WHY??? Cause money talks and bull$H!T walks....that's WHY. |
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I don't think the way your question was phrased calls for her to ask "if you have a job"... What does it matter if posters want a person they date to have a job? It is their choice what preferences they choose in people they date.. Wanting someone to have a job is no different than wanting to date peoople of a certain height... If you're going to ask questions, you'll need to understand that 1) everyone has an opinion 2) it is each persons right to whichever preference they choose and 3) you may not always like the opinions you get but if you're going to complain about them either a) don't ask the questions or b) state "answer ...." and tell them how to answer... It'll be a dead thread but hey, you won't have to deal with differing opinions... I am not complaining about anyones opinions, mearly playing devils advocate as I am finding the debate stimulating and as yet I've not put my cards on the table as to whether I work or not. I think people have surmised that you do not work due to health reasons b/c of your posts... Also, you asked what does your occupation matter not "do I have a job" or "do I have to have a job" At present yes although I do do some volentary work but if I was a sewage worker would that make me a better person or if I was a debt collector would that be better and if so why? WHY??? Cause money talks and Bull$h!t walks....That's WHY... |
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In the eyes of God it does not matter what your job is.
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I would live in a pop up tent and eat ramen noodles everyday with a man that had a spiritual edge, and made me feel beautiful when he looked at me and made me feel safe when his arms were around me... I know the guy just for you! You'll have to wait twenty to life for him, though, because he's a convicted serial killer. Yeah, well they always find god in prison... Some get a degree in law. Would a woman date a lawyer, if she were a doctor? Maybe, my brother is a lawyer and his wife is an oncology nurse.. |
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I would live in a pop up tent and eat ramen noodles everyday with a man that had a spiritual edge, and made me feel beautiful when he looked at me and made me feel safe when his arms were around me... I know the guy just for you! You'll have to wait twenty to life for him, though, because he's a convicted serial killer. Yeah, well they always find god in prison... Some get a degree in law. Would a woman date a lawyer, if she were a doctor? It worked for the Cosby's! He was a doctor and she was a lawyer! 
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I wonder sometimes wheather these sites ask for your occupation for data mining reasons or just so the gold diggers can narrow the feild down quicker. How much are you influenced by the occupation of a potential match? You stated TWO thoughts here, one the SITE might want your occupation for THEIR USE, DATA MINING.. and the you mentioned the TERM,,-GOLD-DIGGERS. As for a person who wishes to LIVE OFF YOUR MONEY. THEIR USE. I would say, that YOU SEEM TO BE TO WORRIED as to having your information displayed,,,,, NOTHING HERE IN THEIR RULES EXPRESS,,, That you MUST SHOW THAT?????? SO DON'T,,,,, and don't be so self centered about that information to US or to one who knows you, as ,, ALL THAT DOES,,,,is MAGNIFIES,,the THOUGHT of YOU and YOUR MONEY and INCOME and OCCUPATION..... Say simply,,,I WORK!!!! And who cares??? If you WANT to tell someone later who you meet here,,do so. THIS,,,,is but ONE of MANY requested parts of the information process that every site has to be filled in.... And MOST,,,are NOT MANDATORY TO BE FILLED OUT.. And YOU can STILL be a Member here.... ANYWAY,,,welcome to the site, and I hope you find it a fun place. And I hope YOU make some friends on here....  |
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Long as the person isn't a mooch then who cares?
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I wonder sometimes wheather these sites ask for your occupation for data mining reasons or just so the gold diggers can narrow the feild down quicker. How much are you influenced by the occupation of a potential match? not much but i've almost always ended up dating guys who work with their hands in some sort of trade: plumbing, electrician, mechanic, etc. maybe it comes with being attracted to scruffy-looking types who don't often wear suits? |
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I've never listed my real job, I've listed the field...then changed it to troublemaker....and train wreck. Sometimes you can get an idea about someone by the work they do, their interests, sometimes not.
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It isn't about being shallow. If I really connected with someone who was unemployed, would I blow him off? No. I'd get to know him and date if it were possible. It's all about preferences. You cannot force someone to change their preferences for you. If you have to try and force them, it's just not going to work. Is that how you really want to try and start a relationship? Rule #1 Never date anyone without a job!!! Some people do not need a job that have MONEY so you cannot always follow this rule  that is right .. what if i had an oil well on my property..would i need a job of other than counting my funds.. 
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My point is that Employment status can change. someone with a job is not gaurenteed to have that job in a months time. Someone who is unemployed could be back in work in a months time. No-one would say that a single mother should not be considered dateworthy if she is unable to work due to family commitments and therefore unlikley to be able to pay her way if you take her out. People unable to work through health problems shouldn't be doomed to be alone I get that. But, you cannot force someone to date you, no matter the reason they're choosing not to date you. There is absolutely nothing wrong with someone wanting to date someone who has a job. Just as there is nothing wrong with someone who is willing to date someone who is unemployed. There's no point in getting upset about it. I don't get upset about it. I know myself and my qualities and weaknesses. Hows about we change the occupation bit to a straight yes/no answer would that work for you? Have you read my posts? It wasn't really a yes/no type of question. Yes I have. I'm refering to the initial question I asked as to what my occupation has to do with anything. Why not just say do you have a job yes or no? If you were to ask someone out on a date today, would you be able to cover the costs to get to the date and cover at least your part of the date, assuming she's fine with going dutch? If so, then I don't see what job/lack of job will have much to do with it. Though, this is a good case where you need to discuss before the date who pays what. |
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No one said you weren't worth dating. No one said you're a waste of space. No one is kicking you when you are down. They expressed their opinion, since you asked for it. They choose not to date someone who is unemployed, that is their right, no one is obligated to date anyone. I'm pretty sure there is a type of woman you won't date- certain age, race, region, weight, height, looks, has an std, whether or not she has a bunch of kids or she's infertile, if she has a drug/alcohol problem, she's really religious or worships the devil, she swears a lot, doesn't bathe, doesn't brush her teeth, has a hideous physical deformity, has a "weird" political view, believes in abortion, or thinks it's evil- do you get my point? Because I could go on and on about what a person could be like, and I'm pretty sure one or more of those attributes up there would be a turn off for you. Does that make you a bad person? Um, nope. Does that mean you think those people are worthless and useless and you're "kicking them when they're down?" Um, nope, again. It means you have a preference and you would prefer not to make those types of people a part of your life. It means you more than likely wish them well and hope they find someone else they have more in common with. I delete and block emails from certain types of men all the time, because they don't interest me. I don't want to talk to them, it doesn't matter what they think they have to offer me, I don't want it. Period. I have tons of reasons why, depending on who they are. But I wish them well in their search and I hope they find someone who chooses to be with them. Just because the people who've replied to you indicated that an employed person is their choice, doesn't mean someone else won't mind dating you, you simply have to find that person. Sorry you're feeling useless and all that, and I hope you find work soon, but you can't get upset with other people because of how they feel, when they feel that you're not their cup of tea. Best to you.  I wasn't talking about myself in particular. More commenting on the generalisations that are made due to someones job or lack of one. Not many people have a job for life nowardays and using their current occupation as a benchmark as to the type of person they are is a fools game hmmm, I don't agree - it's not a fools game -- it's REALITY... I am an engineer - so I list that in my profile... why do I do this? Well, engineer's tend to have certain personality traits... some women like these traits, some do not... I will not have one JOB for life, but I will have my career and it will always be within my particular realm of expertise... it's just a part of me and who I am. My job does not define me, but my career shows a lot about my personality, work ethic, character ect... You sound bitter, perhaps "rolling and smoking" too much? *sigh*... be careful, when you post questions on M2 - not everyone is going to coddle you or agree with you... $.02
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So it would seem that if someone is out of work they are considered to be a waste of space and not worth dating. This dispite the fact that due to the financial meltdown thousands of good men and women are loosing their jobs every week. Way to kick someone when their down. Maybe dating isn't a good idea for someone that is not employed. It's rather expensive to date -- even if a person is lucky enough to find someone that splits the cost. FFS! This topic makes me stabby. Actually it is my belief if you are unemployed, the last thing you need to do is think about dating. You see the time it takes to make a post on a dating site, you could be looking for a job. Then they will go on a forum and post about how nobody wants to date them or give them a chance. If you are so horny, go use your hand. Get your priorities straight.  I won't even get started on people having children that have no money.   It is my experience that those that worry about gold diggers have the least amount of gold to dig. Nobody is gonna steal your pin number for that $20 in your checking account. Keep it and use it for bus fare to go on job interviews. |
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So it would seem that if someone is out of work they are considered to be a waste of space and not worth dating. This dispite the fact that due to the financial meltdown thousands of good men and women are loosing their jobs every week. Way to kick someone when their down. Maybe dating isn't a good idea for someone that is not employed. It's rather expensive to date -- even if a person is lucky enough to find someone that splits the cost. FFS! This topic makes me stabby. Actually it is my belief if you are unemployed, the last thing you need to do is think about dating. You see the time it takes to make a post on a dating site, you could be looking for a job. Then they will go on a forum and post about how nobody wants to date them or give them a chance. If you are so horny, go use your hand. Get your priorities straight. I won't even get started on people having children that have no money. It is my experience that those that worry about gold diggers have the least amount of gold to dig. Nobody is gonna steal your pin number for that $20 in your checking account. Keep it and use it for bus fare to go on job interviews. 
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Zeno, you touched on so many smart points. If you need your hands, you can't go on finding a job that needs your hands. But you can't go on dates, which you could, if you had a job, in which case you wouldn't need to rely on your hands for dating. This is good, complete, working logical model of the tri-partheid model of dating, working and money.
Then you said, forget about you if you don't work and your children don't have money. True. The gurl/boyfriend of such a person will get stuck buying seven coffees on the first coffee date, and may end up feeding six hungry mouths on that special candle-lit dinner with the fireplace and smelling smart and massage oils and stuff. And true, gold diggers-fearers who are the most vocal about gold diggers have a tendency. Those who have gold to give, walk around with a big smile on their faces, because there IS probably one or more very worthwhile gold digger in their lives. If they are smart, they budget/ration their gold to last a lifetime, and not run out prematurely and spend the rest of their days with crying foul over gold diggers. |
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I would live in a pop up tent and eat ramen noodles everyday with a man that had a spiritual edge, and made me feel beautiful when he looked at me and made me feel safe when his arms were around me... I know the guy just for you! You'll have to wait twenty to life for him, though, because he's a convicted serial killer. Yeah, well they always find god in prison... Some get a degree in law. Would a woman date a lawyer, if she were a doctor? Maybe, my brother is a lawyer and his wife is an oncology nurse.. Marriage made in heaven. |
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I would live in a pop up tent and eat ramen noodles everyday with a man that had a spiritual edge, and made me feel beautiful when he looked at me and made me feel safe when his arms were around me... I know the guy just for you! You'll have to wait twenty to life for him, though, because he's a convicted serial killer. Yeah, well they always find god in prison... Some get a degree in law. Would a woman date a lawyer, if she were a doctor? It worked for the Cosby's! He was a doctor and she was a lawyer! Yeah, I remember Dr. Cosby. What a pain in the *** he was. |
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well personally, i make dynamite for a living.
now i am sure, i am going to be hearing from the FBI PDQ. 
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