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Topic: America in 2050
willing2's photo
Sat 12/19/09 01:08 PM

I didnt say illegal immigration

just immigration (both I guess)

but all of south america and central america and mexico is hispanic and growing and it is naturally spreading demographically north

it kinda freaks out some of the older anglo hispaniphobe types but its gonna happen

Viva Atzlan!!

Fanta46's photo
Sat 12/19/09 01:23 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Sat 12/19/09 01:26 PM
Somebody still needs to teach Hispanic races of the world how to use birth control.

All the increases/decreases in majority/minority levels over the next 40 years depends on whether or not our current immigration levels and laws remain the same.

That's a pretty big if.

msharmony's photo
Sat 12/19/09 01:33 PM
I just think we need to teach people the importance of education and planning when it comes to families,, birth control alone is only a band aid to the bigger issues.

Ladylid2012's photo
Sat 12/19/09 01:33 PM
Times are a changing.....


Fanta46's photo
Sat 12/19/09 01:43 PM

I just think we need to teach people the importance of education and planning when it comes to families,, birth control alone is only a band aid to the bigger issues.


Yes, I remember when I was in Elem school back in the 60s birth control education and the impending population explosion was a big topic.
Americans took it to heart. Now without immigration our population increase is a negative number. While other countries, poorer countries, are still out of control.

I don't think our economy and resources will allow us to continue 40 more years of a 17% annual immigration rate. (one of the ifs.)

Someone needs to teach the people of the countries with population explosions to limit their birth rate.
They need to take the issue as serious as Americans and Europeans did in the 60s.

LashV1200's photo
Sat 12/19/09 01:46 PM
I think our 2050 profile depends not on demography, but (Domestic and International) policy drives. [Pat Buchanan raised the questions of demographic change. – The issue did not attract much attention.] As long as “bushests” continue serving multibillion industries (Churches, Health Insurance, military suppliers); as long as our “from, for, and by the people” continues ignoring the people’s interests and being careless about the middle class (of all ethnicities); probably emigration from the States will increase dramatically by 2050. The white people outflow has started already.

We will have new increasing waves of immigration from the countries we are liberating (Iraq and Afghanistan) and will liberate in future (??? China?, N. Korea?, Venezuela?, Columbia?). However there is no comparison to WELCOMED Hispanic immigration.

JustAGuy2112's photo
Sat 12/19/09 01:46 PM

Somebody still needs to teach Hispanic races of the world how to use birth control.

All the increases/decreases in majority/minority levels over the next 40 years depends on whether or not our current immigration levels and laws remain the same.

That's a pretty big if.


Ummm...the VAST majority of the Hispanic Culture is Catholic.

Catholic faith does not allow for birth control.

Good luck getting Hispanics to use it.

Fanta46's photo
Sat 12/19/09 01:52 PM


Somebody still needs to teach Hispanic races of the world how to use birth control.

All the increases/decreases in majority/minority levels over the next 40 years depends on whether or not our current immigration levels and laws remain the same.

That's a pretty big if.


Ummm...the VAST majority of the Hispanic Culture is Catholic.

Catholic faith does not allow for birth control.

Good luck getting Hispanics to use it.


I'm Catholic!
Isn't planned parent-hood a form of birth control?

JustAGuy2112's photo
Sat 12/19/09 02:01 PM



Somebody still needs to teach Hispanic races of the world how to use birth control.

All the increases/decreases in majority/minority levels over the next 40 years depends on whether or not our current immigration levels and laws remain the same.

That's a pretty big if.


Ummm...the VAST majority of the Hispanic Culture is Catholic.

Catholic faith does not allow for birth control.

Good luck getting Hispanics to use it.


I'm Catholic!
Isn't planned parent-hood a form of birth control?


Not in Detroit. lol

Fanta46's photo
Sat 12/19/09 02:16 PM
Nor in most all Latin American countries.

It's called lack of education.

Fanta46's photo
Sat 12/19/09 02:18 PM
You'd think economic reality would be enough incentive for these poor populations, but that doesn't seem to concern them either.

Atlantis75's photo
Sat 12/19/09 02:24 PM
Edited by Atlantis75 on Sat 12/19/09 02:27 PM

The latest news about what america will 'look' around the year 2050
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"The United States has 308 million people today; two-thirds are non-Hispanic whites.

The total population should climb to 399 million by 2050, under the new projection, with whites making up 49.9 percent of the population. Blacks will make up 12.2 percent, virtually unchanged from today. Hispanics, currently 15 percent of the population, will rise to 28 percent in 2050.

Asians are expected to increase from 4.4 percent of the population to 6 percent.

The point when minority children become the majority is expected to have a similar delay of roughly eight years, moving from 2023 to 2031.

The population 85 and older is projected to more than triple by 2050, to 18.6 million.

Read more: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/us-to-have-white-minority-by-2050-14600778.html#ixzz0aAJ5NDNY
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My question,,because the term minority was brought up in another thread....Is anyone concerned about becoming a minority or majority in the future? How do you think the demographic changes will change government, society, culture...etc....

Note, that I am not JUST referring to race in my question about demographics, how do you think the increase in senior citizen population might affect how we do things in our country/culture?




To give you my honest answer, I don't think the USA will exist by 2050. Or at least - it won't be called that and I don't know if the borders will be still where they are today. Heck, I'm not sure what's in the next 10 years, the way the things are going, there are a lot of changes taking place, good and bad at the same time.

According to the CIA world-factbook data, the EU has already became the new superpower (unlike they want you to believe that it's China), with the biggest purchasing power in the world.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ee.html

Of course, you can say that the "EU" is not a country, but a bunch of small countries joining forces, but if you look at the EU states, while you would drive 10 hours from one point to another, you'll find 10 different languages and cultures. The borders are open and the currency (Euro) is already almost time and a half (1 Euro= 1.43 USD), regardless of the economic recession in the past year or so.

As for United States, the culture changes is invetable. Whether or not, the new majority either transforms the USA or not, I don't know. All I know is, that it will change one way or another, because, no matter what might others tell you or even call you a racist, The current face of USA was shaped largely by the massive immigrants from Europe during the turn of the century, while before it was more fonded on English/Spanish system (before the 19th cent.)

You watch the movies, especially older ones, it's either about some Italian mafia, or polish sausage or german saurkraut, french dress designs, english humor and so on and so forth. Whether or not
these values and traditions stay, nobody can tell for sure, but I know for sure that if there are no more immigration from Europe and as factories and products are now coming from China, they are quickly fading out as we go forward the future.

For example:

-Let's say China has a chinese culture, due to the chinese people. Right? They have been chinese for - I don't know - 4-5 thousands of years.
Let's say by some catastrophic event, almost all Chinese get wiped out, leaving the country almost empty. So let's say the Swedish people take over.

Do you think they gonna identify themselves as the "new Chinese" and keep all the traditions and customs, or you think they gonna change the country into something similar to Sweden, by wearing swedish clothes, eating swedish style food, praticing religions like what is in Sweden today.

Hmm?

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