Topic: Yet another controversy appears to be brewing around Fox New
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Thu 12/10/09 08:13 AM





Invictus, do you know and speak to every liberal in the united states? You and willing love to stereotype and group everyone together, it's rather childish.
Issac, take your own advice if you don't like "liberal threads" don't open them.
Related Story on how Phoney Fox news is at least its website.
A year ago they posted a story stating a 13 year old Christian pakistani was raped by a group of muslims for the sole reason of being christian and the house was robbed and ransacked. However, the picture they posted of the girl, she was wearing a hijab and they listed her name.
Anyone that has taken a journalism class would know you don't name rape victims. Second, this girl was wearing a hijab which 99% means she wasn't a christian at all. After contacting Fox, they gave me some lame reason that the sources were wrong and soon after the story vanished from the website.
Bill O'Reilly claims the NY times make up news stories, he should actually take a look at his boss's own website.



jeez stating statistics like 99% with no basis! Don't they have laws requiring hijab's in some areas of the world and even if they dont have a law requiring it public persacution is real too. Just because your forced to wear one by law or fear does not mean your not a christian. Jeez!


sir my basis is i'm from the middle east and no what you assert doesn't apply in Pakistan much less the rest of the world. I've never seen a christian forced to wear a head scarf in an islamic country, if they do it's their choice. I've also never seen one persecuted on the basis they were Christian.

Have you been to a predominately Muslim country?


i was born in a predom. muslim country, i've studied in a predom. muslim country, and i've traveled to other predom. muslim countries. I don't know where in my previous posts that didn't make that any clearer.



I have on multiple occassions seen women, reporters, staff and so on of non-muslim women wearing coverings. Dont try to make it like sharia law does not exsist, even when not on the law books they attempt to enforce it! Don't try and pretend those countries even if not theocracies are not full of theocrats! I am an Iraq war vet and have been over seas! Can not lie to me to try and say there is equality over there because there is not! Not sure what story you are talking about, but i know the middle east to be a shiet hole! A horrible place to live where people cowar in the street from oppressive religous dictator's! The theocracy of hate and oppression and thats a fact jack! Not equal to America in the slightest and get sick and tired of the culture excuse! If you have a backward azz culture then it's a backward azz culture! Don't care where yours is from and what you are either! Never know you might be one of the good muslim's right? I don't pretend this is not a religous war and the muslim's aren't causing problems all over the world, because they are!

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Thu 12/10/09 08:18 AM






Invictus, do you know and speak to every liberal in the united states? You and willing love to stereotype and group everyone together, it's rather childish.
Issac, take your own advice if you don't like "liberal threads" don't open them.
Related Story on how Phoney Fox news is at least its website.
A year ago they posted a story stating a 13 year old Christian pakistani was raped by a group of muslims for the sole reason of being christian and the house was robbed and ransacked. However, the picture they posted of the girl, she was wearing a hijab and they listed her name.
Anyone that has taken a journalism class would know you don't name rape victims. Second, this girl was wearing a hijab which 99% means she wasn't a christian at all. After contacting Fox, they gave me some lame reason that the sources were wrong and soon after the story vanished from the website.
Bill O'Reilly claims the NY times make up news stories, he should actually take a look at his boss's own website.



jeez stating statistics like 99% with no basis! Don't they have laws requiring hijab's in some areas of the world and even if they dont have a law requiring it public persacution is real too. Just because your forced to wear one by law or fear does not mean your not a christian. Jeez!


sir my basis is i'm from the middle east and no what you assert doesn't apply in Pakistan much less the rest of the world. I've never seen a christian forced to wear a head scarf in an islamic country, if they do it's their choice. I've also never seen one persecuted on the basis they were Christian.

Have you been to a predominately Muslim country?


i was born in a predom. muslim country, i've studied in a predom. muslim country, and i've traveled to other predom. muslim countries. I don't know where in my previous posts that didn't make that any clearer.



I have on multiple occassions seen women, reporters, staff and so on of non-muslim women wearing coverings. Dont try to make it like sharia law does not exsist, even when not on the law books they attempt to enforce it! Don't try and pretend those countries even if not theocracies are not full of theocrats! I am an Iraq war vet and have been over seas! Can not lie to me to try and say there is equality over there because there is not! Not sure what story you are talking about, but i know the middle east to be a shiet hole! A horrible place to live where people cowar in the street from oppressive religous dictator's! The theocracy of hate and oppression and thats a fact jack! Not equal to America in the slightest and get sick and tired of the culture excuse! If you have a backward azz culture then it's a backward azz culture! Don't care where yours is from and what you are either! Never know you might be one of the good muslim's right? I don't pretend this is not a religous war and the muslim's aren't causing problems all over the world, because they are!


you can't blame all the muslims for the work of the jihadis

anymore than you blame all the Baptists for the work of David Koresh

or blame all the high school kids for the work of Dylan Klebold

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Thu 12/10/09 08:40 AM
Let's not turn this inot a religous thread.

But I am starting a petition if anyone wants to join me...

I don't like Chocolatte ice-cream, in fact I HATE it...so therefore I am starting a petition to remove it from Mcdonalds because WHY should I HAVE to see it...I can't even stand to look at it. Who cares if I don't have to order it...I don't want to see it! it should be banned!

So if you feel the same way
Please sign your name below.

1. Isaac Dede

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Thu 12/10/09 08:42 AM







Invictus, do you know and speak to every liberal in the united states? You and willing love to stereotype and group everyone together, it's rather childish.
Issac, take your own advice if you don't like "liberal threads" don't open them.
Related Story on how Phoney Fox news is at least its website.
A year ago they posted a story stating a 13 year old Christian pakistani was raped by a group of muslims for the sole reason of being christian and the house was robbed and ransacked. However, the picture they posted of the girl, she was wearing a hijab and they listed her name.
Anyone that has taken a journalism class would know you don't name rape victims. Second, this girl was wearing a hijab which 99% means she wasn't a christian at all. After contacting Fox, they gave me some lame reason that the sources were wrong and soon after the story vanished from the website.
Bill O'Reilly claims the NY times make up news stories, he should actually take a look at his boss's own website.



jeez stating statistics like 99% with no basis! Don't they have laws requiring hijab's in some areas of the world and even if they dont have a law requiring it public persacution is real too. Just because your forced to wear one by law or fear does not mean your not a christian. Jeez!


sir my basis is i'm from the middle east and no what you assert doesn't apply in Pakistan much less the rest of the world. I've never seen a christian forced to wear a head scarf in an islamic country, if they do it's their choice. I've also never seen one persecuted on the basis they were Christian.

Have you been to a predominately Muslim country?


i was born in a predom. muslim country, i've studied in a predom. muslim country, and i've traveled to other predom. muslim countries. I don't know where in my previous posts that didn't make that any clearer.



I have on multiple occassions seen women, reporters, staff and so on of non-muslim women wearing coverings. Dont try to make it like sharia law does not exsist, even when not on the law books they attempt to enforce it! Don't try and pretend those countries even if not theocracies are not full of theocrats! I am an Iraq war vet and have been over seas! Can not lie to me to try and say there is equality over there because there is not! Not sure what story you are talking about, but i know the middle east to be a shiet hole! A horrible place to live where people cowar in the street from oppressive religous dictator's! The theocracy of hate and oppression and thats a fact jack! Not equal to America in the slightest and get sick and tired of the culture excuse! If you have a backward azz culture then it's a backward azz culture! Don't care where yours is from and what you are either! Never know you might be one of the good muslim's right? I don't pretend this is not a religous war and the muslim's aren't causing problems all over the world, because they are!


you can't blame all the muslims for the work of the jihadis

anymore than you blame all the Baptists for the work of David Koresh

or blame all the high school kids for the work of Dylan Klebold



yeah i know this but it's no where near the same, because the religous extremism in America is not a world wide problem as with islam! but whatever...

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Thu 12/10/09 08:50 AM

Let's not turn this inot a religous thread.

But I am starting a petition if anyone wants to join me...

I don't like Chocolatte ice-cream, in fact I HATE it...so therefore I am starting a petition to remove it from Mcdonalds because WHY should I HAVE to see it...I can't even stand to look at it. Who cares if I don't have to order it...I don't want to see it! it should be banned!

So if you feel the same way
Please sign your name below.

1. Isaac Dede


lol....well i love chocalate ice cream, do you plan to ban it from the stores? will i be arrested for eating it?

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Thu 12/10/09 09:04 AM


Let's not turn this inot a religous thread.

But I am starting a petition if anyone wants to join me...

I don't like Chocolatte ice-cream, in fact I HATE it...so therefore I am starting a petition to remove it from Mcdonalds because WHY should I HAVE to see it...I can't even stand to look at it. Who cares if I don't have to order it...I don't want to see it! it should be banned!

So if you feel the same way
Please sign your name below.

1. Isaac Dede


lol....well i love chocalate ice cream, do you plan to ban it from the stores? will i be arrested for eating it?

YES!!!

I mean geez I don't like it! so it shouldn't be allowed to be in the freezers even at the stores...in fact it is against my religion to look at it because it makes me feel 'dirty' don't care if you like it or not! IT IS FILTHY and DIRTY...So please sign below


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Thu 12/10/09 09:05 AM





Invictus, do you know and speak to every liberal in the united states? You and willing love to stereotype and group everyone together, it's rather childish.
Issac, take your own advice if you don't like "liberal threads" don't open them.
Related Story on how Phoney Fox news is at least its website.
A year ago they posted a story stating a 13 year old Christian pakistani was raped by a group of muslims for the sole reason of being christian and the house was robbed and ransacked. However, the picture they posted of the girl, she was wearing a hijab and they listed her name.
Anyone that has taken a journalism class would know you don't name rape victims. Second, this girl was wearing a hijab which 99% means she wasn't a christian at all. After contacting Fox, they gave me some lame reason that the sources were wrong and soon after the story vanished from the website.
Bill O'Reilly claims the NY times make up news stories, he should actually take a look at his boss's own website.



jeez stating statistics like 99% with no basis! Don't they have laws requiring hijab's in some areas of the world and even if they dont have a law requiring it public persacution is real too. Just because your forced to wear one by law or fear does not mean your not a christian. Jeez!


sir my basis is i'm from the middle east and no what you assert doesn't apply in Pakistan much less the rest of the world. I've never seen a christian forced to wear a head scarf in an islamic country, if they do it's their choice. I've also never seen one persecuted on the basis they were Christian.

Have you been to a predominately Muslim country?


i was born in a predom. muslim country, i've studied in a predom. muslim country, and i've traveled to other predom. muslim countries. I don't know where in my previous posts that didn't make that any clearer.


I grew up in America.
We have many redneck close-minded indivuals here, even though we are one of the most diverse populations in the world.
I'm a Catholic from birth.
Nice to meet you MarkumXdrinker


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Thu 12/10/09 09:06 AM



Let's not turn this inot a religous thread.

But I am starting a petition if anyone wants to join me...

I don't like Chocolatte ice-cream, in fact I HATE it...so therefore I am starting a petition to remove it from Mcdonalds because WHY should I HAVE to see it...I can't even stand to look at it. Who cares if I don't have to order it...I don't want to see it! it should be banned!

So if you feel the same way
Please sign your name below.

1. Isaac Dede


lol....well i love chocalate ice cream, do you plan to ban it from the stores? will i be arrested for eating it?

YES!!!

I mean geez I don't like it! so it shouldn't be allowed to be in the freezers even at the stores...in fact it is against my religion to look at it because it makes me feel 'dirty' don't care if you like it or not! IT IS FILTHY and DIRTY...So please sign below

2. Franshade - doesn't like chocolate ice cream either, remove it from shelves, save people from obesity, against my beliefs as well, hell but while it's still out there, let's tax the hell out of it, afterall we are doing this with people's best interests at heart :wink:

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Thu 12/10/09 09:09 AM







Invictus, do you know and speak to every liberal in the united states? You and willing love to stereotype and group everyone together, it's rather childish.
Issac, take your own advice if you don't like "liberal threads" don't open them.
Related Story on how Phoney Fox news is at least its website.
A year ago they posted a story stating a 13 year old Christian pakistani was raped by a group of muslims for the sole reason of being christian and the house was robbed and ransacked. However, the picture they posted of the girl, she was wearing a hijab and they listed her name.
Anyone that has taken a journalism class would know you don't name rape victims. Second, this girl was wearing a hijab which 99% means she wasn't a christian at all. After contacting Fox, they gave me some lame reason that the sources were wrong and soon after the story vanished from the website.
Bill O'Reilly claims the NY times make up news stories, he should actually take a look at his boss's own website.



jeez stating statistics like 99% with no basis! Don't they have laws requiring hijab's in some areas of the world and even if they dont have a law requiring it public persacution is real too. Just because your forced to wear one by law or fear does not mean your not a christian. Jeez!


sir my basis is i'm from the middle east and no what you assert doesn't apply in Pakistan much less the rest of the world. I've never seen a christian forced to wear a head scarf in an islamic country, if they do it's their choice. I've also never seen one persecuted on the basis they were Christian.

Have you been to a predominately Muslim country?


i was born in a predom. muslim country, i've studied in a predom. muslim country, and i've traveled to other predom. muslim countries. I don't know where in my previous posts that didn't make that any clearer.



I have on multiple occassions seen women, reporters, staff and so on of non-muslim women wearing coverings. Dont try to make it like sharia law does not exsist, even when not on the law books they attempt to enforce it! Don't try and pretend those countries even if not theocracies are not full of theocrats! I am an Iraq war vet and have been over seas! Can not lie to me to try and say there is equality over there because there is not! Not sure what story you are talking about, but i know the middle east to be a shiet hole! A horrible place to live where people cowar in the street from oppressive religous dictator's! The theocracy of hate and oppression and thats a fact jack! Not equal to America in the slightest and get sick and tired of the culture excuse! If you have a backward azz culture then it's a backward azz culture! Don't care where yours is from and what you are either! Never know you might be one of the good muslim's right? I don't pretend this is not a religous war and the muslim's aren't causing problems all over the world, because they are!


you can't blame all the muslims for the work of the jihadis

anymore than you blame all the Baptists for the work of David Koresh

or blame all the high school kids for the work of Dylan Klebold


:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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Thu 12/10/09 09:12 AM
I love chocolate ice cream and I think everyone should be forced to eat it whether they like it or not

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Thu 12/10/09 09:19 AM
Actually when Fox was opened Murdock was a foreigner. An Australian Citizen who had a history of biased reporting and influencing elections in both Britain and Australia. Even taking payment and gifts from politicians for helping influence elections in Australia.

In 1995, Murdoch's Fox Network became the object of scrutiny from the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), when it was alleged that News Ltd.'s Australian base made Murdoch's ownership of Fox illegal. However, the FCC ruled in Murdoch's favor, stating that his ownership of Fox was in the best interests of the public.


Congress had hearings and ruled a non American Citizen could not own a major news media source in America.

Only then did he apply for US citizenship.

So you see there is a pattern!
Complacency by the government in his case has already been demonstrated.
Complacency among US citizens would be inexcusable.

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Thu 12/10/09 09:23 AM
If the Hitler and the Nazi Party had bought the largest News Media Station in America prior to WWII would you be so generous expressing your freedom?

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Thu 12/10/09 09:26 AM
With such a station expressing their white supremacy, Nazi propaganda across America, who knows, we might have allied with Germany instead.

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Thu 12/10/09 09:28 AM

If the Hitler and the Nazi Party had bought the largest News Media Station in America prior to WWII would you be so generous expressing your freedom?


they kinda did

they bought off Henry Ford and Charles Lindbergh with medals and citations from the Fuhrer and used em as propaganda sources in America

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Thu 12/10/09 09:39 AM


If the Hitler and the Nazi Party had bought the largest News Media Station in America prior to WWII would you be so generous expressing your freedom?


they kinda did

they bought off Henry Ford and Charles Lindbergh with medals and citations from the Fuhrer and used em as propaganda sources in America


LOL
Be serious quiet.

It's not even a close call.

If they had owned a major media source and transmitted across the South alone. They would have raised the support and passions of a majority of good ole southern boy's. Not all, but surely the simple minded majority.
They could have caused enough BS to destroy the national cooperation that was necessary for America's commitment to winning the war.
Anyone who can't see why there is a law, like the one Murdoch violated, prohibiting a foreigner from owning a major news media outlet in our country is just blind.
I wonder who had enough influence to overrule the FCC and what was their motivation for it.

Murdoch does have a history of just what I've suggested is happening.
Complacency in this matter is irresponsible.

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Thu 12/10/09 09:41 AM

If the Hitler and the Nazi Party had bought the largest News Media Station in America prior to WWII would you be so generous expressing your freedom?

Yes because I would have freedom to do so...

Who cares if it is ONE of the largest news stations....CNN is the Other...so again yes I'd express my freedom because I have a RIGHT to my freedom that those who have gone before me have given me.

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Thu 12/10/09 09:43 AM
This question applies here as well as in the other thread that looks like it died.

To the oposter
Think about it.
This is just an observation.
In one breath, you want Beck hangin' high for pushing his gold deal, which is a victimless crime. If indeed it is a crime.

In your next breath, you applaud Obummer for wanting to reward up to 20 million Illegals who have been committing crimes, including Federal Felonies, against American and Legal Workers. Many victims.

Who now, is this the " walking contradiction" you speak of??

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Thu 12/10/09 09:43 AM
Esp. when you run around talking about freedom to defend his ownership.
How anyone can take the possible ramifications so dis-serious as to make a comparison to chocolate ice cream is profound in it's short sightedness.

It's dangerous to the very freedoms you claim to defend.

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Thu 12/10/09 09:45 AM
also the Supreme Court has ruled that freedom of speech applies to new outlets

they are not required to tell the truth

I thought that was kinda weird

Fanta46's photo
Thu 12/10/09 09:46 AM

This question applies here as well as in the other thread that looks like it died.

To the oposter
Think about it.
This is just an observation.
In one breath, you want Beck hangin' high for pushing his gold deal, which is a victimless crime. If indeed it is a crime.

In your next breath, you applaud Obummer for wanting to reward up to 20 million Illegals who have been committing crimes, including Federal Felonies, against American and Legal Workers. Many victims.

Who now, is this the " walking contradiction" you speak of??


Beck is just a pawn. A fool.

I swore I wouldn't waste my words talking to some on here, but I have to say this.
COMPREHENSION is key!