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Esp. when you run around talking about freedom to defend his ownership. How anyone can take the possible ramifications so dis-serious as to make a comparison to chocolate ice cream is profound in it's short sightedness. It's dangerous to the very freedoms you claim to defend. So is passing a healthcare bill that is over 1,000 pages long and has many many 'additions' that they are not showing you publicly...as an example the government would be allowed to withdraw real-time from you bank account to pay for medical expenses... That's the freedom I want 
One day my friend you will grow older. I only hope you don't find your self with a real medical crisis and the bills that accompany such. Ahh, to be young and carefree again! Not that young, and not really that carefree. I care a great deal, one of the reasons I chose to join the Military. I understand full heartedly the amount medical bills can be(I lived with my mom in a school bus with six kids because of such)It helped me to grow up and understand the concept of money quite well actually. I was the second kid in my family to complete highschool and get my A.A degree because I fought for both. I do agree to a point that the government should help with medical bills...but the government already has a medical program..Medicare which is going bankrupt...but the government insist they know what they are doing. One of my neighbors is a senior and has been relying on Medicare for prescriptions which use to cost her $50 dollars last time she went in to pick them up they wanted $580 because the government chose to cut back on the program. So their track record isn't really that good when it comes to handling money, or medical. I wouldn't invest in company that continues to show a bad track record...it would be unwise I can respect that! It is posts like this which make me reflect. I'm not sure if medicare is connected to the Social Security Program. I think it is though. Did you realize that the SS Administration is the only department in the US Gov that continues to show a profit, year after year? Yes and they want make it so you have to be older and older to collect.... Are they just getting greedy? And why is congress allowed to vote for their own raise? Who is going to say umm 'no' I don't want to give myself a raise...we are inherently greedy people. |
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Personally I think we need to get rid of the Repubican/democratic parties all together... Humans are 'click' people belong to one or the other and accepting ALL the beliefs of the party...It's gotten to the point where i look at is as a gang-war mentality What we need to do is stand UNITED as nation(which we are not at present) and defend one thing...are right to be different and free Publicly funded elections where one doesn't mention what party they belong to, but just tell you what their policies are people vote for them specifically on their policies alone....Both canidates(I would actually want to be able to choose from more that two) would have the same amount of air-time to be heard. Let the American public's votes count..popular votes that is not this electoral crap. But that's jmo maybe it would give someone who actually gives a crap, that wasn't priviledged with a silver spoon, and Havard education but who is an effective leader a chance...someone who understands the concept of hard-work and money management and even general economics...but again that's jmo well brother the electtoral college is needed to protect the Republic! Without it the democrats in New York and California would run the entire country! It would completely abolish states rights and soon after they would rewrite our bill of rights and the constitution and do away with all liberty! Democracies lead to mob rule and socialism, we need our republic! That works strongest for the Republican Party. Without the electoral college, Lincoln would never have been elected. He only received 40% of the popular vote. If Lincoln had not been elected there may never have been a Republican Party. It might have stopped right there with their second defeat. Then all those Constitutional Amendments they created may not ever have been. Let's not forget the two elections Bush Jr won! |
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Esp. when you run around talking about freedom to defend his ownership. How anyone can take the possible ramifications so dis-serious as to make a comparison to chocolate ice cream is profound in it's short sightedness. It's dangerous to the very freedoms you claim to defend. So is passing a healthcare bill that is over 1,000 pages long and has many many 'additions' that they are not showing you publicly...as an example the government would be allowed to withdraw real-time from you bank account to pay for medical expenses... That's the freedom I want
One day my friend you will grow older. I only hope you don't find your self with a real medical crisis and the bills that accompany such. Ahh, to be young and carefree again! Not that young, and not really that carefree. I care a great deal, one of the reasons I chose to join the Military. I understand full heartedly the amount medical bills can be(I lived with my mom in a school bus with six kids because of such)It helped me to grow up and understand the concept of money quite well actually. I was the second kid in my family to complete highschool and get my A.A degree because I fought for both. I do agree to a point that the government should help with medical bills...but the government already has a medical program..Medicare which is going bankrupt...but the government insist they know what they are doing. One of my neighbors is a senior and has been relying on Medicare for prescriptions which use to cost her $50 dollars last time she went in to pick them up they wanted $580 because the government chose to cut back on the program. So their track record isn't really that good when it comes to handling money, or medical. I wouldn't invest in company that continues to show a bad track record...it would be unwise I can respect that! It is posts like this which make me reflect. I'm not sure if medicare is connected to the Social Security Program. I think it is though. Did you realize that the SS Administration is the only department in the US Gov that continues to show a profit, year after year? That's crazy talk, a profit? that is impossible! Government never shows a profit only a surplus! The idea S.S. showed a profit just shows how misinformed you are! s.s is a savings account that should have a surplus at all times because so! The fact is each year the surplus is lower and lower and they predict soon it will be completly out of surplus and it will need to raise taxes just to take in what is needed to dish out! It's like saying your personal retirement account is showing a profit???? WOW LMAO! |
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Personally I think we need to get rid of the Repubican/democratic parties all together... Humans are 'click' people belong to one or the other and accepting ALL the beliefs of the party...It's gotten to the point where i look at is as a gang-war mentality What we need to do is stand UNITED as nation(which we are not at present) and defend one thing...are right to be different and free Publicly funded elections where one doesn't mention what party they belong to, but just tell you what their policies are people vote for them specifically on their policies alone....Both canidates(I would actually want to be able to choose from more that two) would have the same amount of air-time to be heard. Let the American public's votes count..popular votes that is not this electoral crap. But that's jmo maybe it would give someone who actually gives a crap, that wasn't priviledged with a silver spoon, and Havard education but who is an effective leader a chance...someone who understands the concept of hard-work and money management and even general economics...but again that's jmo well brother the electtoral college is needed to protect the Republic! Without it the democrats in New York and California would run the entire country! It would completely abolish states rights and soon after they would rewrite our bill of rights and the constitution and do away with all liberty! Democracies lead to mob rule and socialism, we need our republic! That works strongest for the Republican Party. Without the electoral college, Lincoln would never have been elected. He only received 40% of the popular vote. If Lincoln had not been elected there may never have been a Republican Party. It might have stopped right there with their second defeat. Then all those Constitutional Amendments they created may not ever have been. Let's not forget the two elections Bush Jr won! So i guess your opinion is the founding fathers had it wrong? That we should not be a Republic? Yes i seem to remember that kennedy also did not win the popular vote and lincoln did! Your facts are always so skewed even in a democracy Lincoln would have been elected because he received the majority of the popular vote! the guy that came in second had 29% and there where two other candidates sharing the rest! Yes it is true he did not get over 50% but no candidate did, who should they have made president? Jeez.......... shredded again! |
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this thread is getting weird
HA! I shredded all of ya'll |
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 I stay slam dunkin!
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Esp. when you run around talking about freedom to defend his ownership. How anyone can take the possible ramifications so dis-serious as to make a comparison to chocolate ice cream is profound in it's short sightedness. It's dangerous to the very freedoms you claim to defend. So is passing a healthcare bill that is over 1,000 pages long and has many many 'additions' that they are not showing you publicly...as an example the government would be allowed to withdraw real-time from you bank account to pay for medical expenses... That's the freedom I want
One day my friend you will grow older. I only hope you don't find your self with a real medical crisis and the bills that accompany such. Ahh, to be young and carefree again! Not that young, and not really that carefree. I care a great deal, one of the reasons I chose to join the Military. I understand full heartedly the amount medical bills can be(I lived with my mom in a school bus with six kids because of such)It helped me to grow up and understand the concept of money quite well actually. I was the second kid in my family to complete highschool and get my A.A degree because I fought for both. I do agree to a point that the government should help with medical bills...but the government already has a medical program..Medicare which is going bankrupt...but the government insist they know what they are doing. One of my neighbors is a senior and has been relying on Medicare for prescriptions which use to cost her $50 dollars last time she went in to pick them up they wanted $580 because the government chose to cut back on the program. So their track record isn't really that good when it comes to handling money, or medical. I wouldn't invest in company that continues to show a bad track record...it would be unwise I can respect that! It is posts like this which make me reflect. I'm not sure if medicare is connected to the Social Security Program. I think it is though. Did you realize that the SS Administration is the only department in the US Gov that continues to show a profit, year after year? That's crazy talk, a profit? that is impossible! Government never shows a profit only a surplus! The idea S.S. showed a profit just shows how misinformed you are! s.s is a savings account that should have a surplus at all times because so! The fact is each year the surplus is lower and lower and they predict soon it will be completly out of surplus and it will need to raise taxes just to take in what is needed to dish out! It's like saying your personal retirement account is showing a profit???? WOW LMAO! No I'm pretty sure it's invested. What do you think they do? Hide it under a rock? LOL Anyway, profit or surplus, the only reason it's going broke is because its robbed by every other agency and used to show a smaller deficit. |
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It's called The Social Security Trust Fund!
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Edited by
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this thread is getting weird HA! I shredded all of ya'll You can use my Super Shredder 
If I can find where I left it, I'll lend you my self-loading, Demoncrat BS scooper, to. Hard to go anywhere in here without steppin' in some.  
Beck Rulz!!
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It's called The Social Security Trust Fund! first of all yes they hide it under a rock earning 1% yeild...lol! Second of all you are absolutely right they loot the s.s. fund! Both parties! you make my argument for me the therory of socialism is not a bad idea just a flawed idea! I will explain! Social Security is a great idea if they never loot it, but conservatives argued during the conception of s.s. that will never happen and sure enough they where right! Now healthcare will be the same! Nationalized health care will be looted as well! When are people gonna learn you can not trust government???? They pass a law creating s.s promising never to loot it....yeah right????? Yet here we go, we are gonna fall for the same damn lie! I think the american people have the battered woman syndrom! Just keep coming back for more and thats why i call them politicians pimps cause they pimp out the ignorant! |
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It's called The Social Security Trust Fund! first of all yes they hide it under a rock earning 1% yeild...lol! Second of all you are absolutely right they loot the s.s. fund! Both parties! you make my argument for me the therory of socialism is not a bad idea just a flawed idea! I will explain! Social Security is a great idea if they never loot it, but conservatives argued during the conception of s.s. that will never happen and sure enough they where right! Now healthcare will be the same! Nationalized health care will be looted as well! When are people gonna learn you can not trust government???? They pass a law creating s.s promising never to loot it....yeah right????? Yet here we go, we are gonna fall for the same damn lie! I think the american people have the battered woman syndrom! Just keep coming back for more and thats why i call them politicians pimps cause they pimp out the ignorant! A true politician is someone who can tell you to go to h3ll in such a way that you look forward to the trip |
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It's called The Social Security Trust Fund! first of all yes they hide it under a rock earning 1% yeild...lol! Second of all you are absolutely right they loot the s.s. fund! Both parties! you make my argument for me the therory of socialism is not a bad idea just a flawed idea! I will explain! Social Security is a great idea if they never loot it, but conservatives argued during the conception of s.s. that will never happen and sure enough they where right! Now healthcare will be the same! Nationalized health care will be looted as well! When are people gonna learn you can not trust government???? They pass a law creating s.s promising never to loot it....yeah right????? Yet here we go, we are gonna fall for the same damn lie! I think the american people have the battered woman syndrom! Just keep coming back for more and thats why i call them politicians pimps cause they pimp out the ignorant! There should be a clause added that prevents them from robbing it! |
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It's called The Social Security Trust Fund! first of all yes they hide it under a rock earning 1% yeild...lol! Second of all you are absolutely right they loot the s.s. fund! Both parties! you make my argument for me the therory of socialism is not a bad idea just a flawed idea! I will explain! Social Security is a great idea if they never loot it, but conservatives argued during the conception of s.s. that will never happen and sure enough they where right! Now healthcare will be the same! Nationalized health care will be looted as well! When are people gonna learn you can not trust government???? They pass a law creating s.s promising never to loot it....yeah right????? Yet here we go, we are gonna fall for the same damn lie! I think the american people have the battered woman syndrom! Just keep coming back for more and thats why i call them politicians pimps cause they pimp out the ignorant! There should be a clause added that prevents them from robbing it! well i agree but they have a sneaky little trick called ammendment! In the case of the social security fund it was the viet nam war and they promised it would just be temporary.....yeah okay i'll bend over and take it right in the arse! Then they tell our elderly that paid into the system for years they dont have enough for medicare! Remember the stories of the elderly eating catfood to survive on s.s. that was promised to them??? Now the politicians say that social security was never intended as a retirement program just as an added benifit and thats a lie too! thats not how they sold it originally! They can not be trusted! Samll government, shut it all down and return the money to the american people and the elderly get whats promised to them by American taxes while we do away with the entire system! Create a enforced retirement program regualted by the government that you can "will" to your children! Why should the wealth of our retirement be given to the politicians? |
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Personally I think we need to get rid of the Repubican/democratic parties all together... Humans are 'click' people belong to one or the other and accepting ALL the beliefs of the party...It's gotten to the point where i look at is as a gang-war mentality What we need to do is stand UNITED as nation(which we are not at present) and defend one thing...are right to be different and free Publicly funded elections where one doesn't mention what party they belong to, but just tell you what their policies are people vote for them specifically on their policies alone....Both canidates(I would actually want to be able to choose from more that two) would have the same amount of air-time to be heard. Let the American public's votes count..popular votes that is not this electoral crap. But that's jmo maybe it would give someone who actually gives a crap, that wasn't priviledged with a silver spoon, and Havard education but who is an effective leader a chance...someone who understands the concept of hard-work and money management and even general economics...but again that's jmo well brother the electtoral college is needed to protect the Republic! Without it the democrats in New York and California would run the entire country! It would completely abolish states rights and soon after they would rewrite our bill of rights and the constitution and do away with all liberty! Democracies lead to mob rule and socialism, we need our republic! That works strongest for the Republican Party. Without the electoral college, Lincoln would never have been elected. He only received 40% of the popular vote. If Lincoln had not been elected there may never have been a Republican Party. It might have stopped right there with their second defeat. Then all those Constitutional Amendments they created may not ever have been. Let's not forget the two elections Bush Jr won! So i guess your opinion is the founding fathers had it wrong? That we should not be a Republic? Yes i seem to remember that kennedy also did not win the popular vote and lincoln did! Your facts are always so skewed even in a democracy Lincoln would have been elected because he received the majority of the popular vote! the guy that came in second had 29% and there where two other candidates sharing the rest! Yes it is true he did not get over 50% but no candidate did, who should they have made president? Jeez.......... shredded again! OK! I've been shredded. Once! He was the first Republican president, winning entirely on the strength of his support in the North: he was not even on the ballot in ten states in the South, and won only two of 996 counties in all the Southern states. Lincoln received 1,866,452 votes, Douglas 1,376,957 votes, Breckinridge 849,781 votes, and Bell 588,789 votes. The electoral vote was decisive: Lincoln had 180 and his opponents added together had only 123. |
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That's what happens when your playing on the lap top when your supposed to be working. LMAO
Time to go to the time clock now. See ya soon! |
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Personally I think we need to get rid of the Repubican/democratic parties all together... Humans are 'click' people belong to one or the other and accepting ALL the beliefs of the party...It's gotten to the point where i look at is as a gang-war mentality What we need to do is stand UNITED as nation(which we are not at present) and defend one thing...are right to be different and free Publicly funded elections where one doesn't mention what party they belong to, but just tell you what their policies are people vote for them specifically on their policies alone....Both canidates(I would actually want to be able to choose from more that two) would have the same amount of air-time to be heard. Let the American public's votes count..popular votes that is not this electoral crap. But that's jmo maybe it would give someone who actually gives a crap, that wasn't priviledged with a silver spoon, and Havard education but who is an effective leader a chance...someone who understands the concept of hard-work and money management and even general economics...but again that's jmo well brother the electtoral college is needed to protect the Republic! Without it the democrats in New York and California would run the entire country! It would completely abolish states rights and soon after they would rewrite our bill of rights and the constitution and do away with all liberty! Democracies lead to mob rule and socialism, we need our republic! That works strongest for the Republican Party. Without the electoral college, Lincoln would never have been elected. He only received 40% of the popular vote. If Lincoln had not been elected there may never have been a Republican Party. It might have stopped right there with their second defeat. Then all those Constitutional Amendments they created may not ever have been. Let's not forget the two elections Bush Jr won! So i guess your opinion is the founding fathers had it wrong? That we should not be a Republic? Yes i seem to remember that kennedy also did not win the popular vote and lincoln did! Your facts are always so skewed even in a democracy Lincoln would have been elected because he received the majority of the popular vote! the guy that came in second had 29% and there where two other candidates sharing the rest! Yes it is true he did not get over 50% but no candidate did, who should they have made president? Jeez.......... shredded again! OK! I've been shredded. Once! He was the first Republican president, winning entirely on the strength of his support in the North: he was not even on the ballot in ten states in the South, and won only two of 996 counties in all the Southern states. Lincoln received 1,866,452 votes, Douglas 1,376,957 votes, Breckinridge 849,781 votes, and Bell 588,789 votes. The electoral vote was decisive: Lincoln had 180 and his opponents added together had only 123. don't sweat it i have been wrong before too! the fact you admited it means their is hope for you! I will turn you into a conservative yet! lol.... just kidding.. |
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Personally I think we need to get rid of the Repubican/democratic parties all together... Humans are 'click' people belong to one or the other and accepting ALL the beliefs of the party...It's gotten to the point where i look at is as a gang-war mentality What we need to do is stand UNITED as nation(which we are not at present) and defend one thing...are right to be different and free Publicly funded elections where one doesn't mention what party they belong to, but just tell you what their policies are people vote for them specifically on their policies alone....Both canidates(I would actually want to be able to choose from more that two) would have the same amount of air-time to be heard. Let the American public's votes count..popular votes that is not this electoral crap. But that's jmo maybe it would give someone who actually gives a crap, that wasn't priviledged with a silver spoon, and Havard education but who is an effective leader a chance...someone who understands the concept of hard-work and money management and even general economics...but again that's jmo well brother the electtoral college is needed to protect the Republic! Without it the democrats in New York and California would run the entire country! It would completely abolish states rights and soon after they would rewrite our bill of rights and the constitution and do away with all liberty! Democracies lead to mob rule and socialism, we need our republic! That works strongest for the Republican Party. Without the electoral college, Lincoln would never have been elected. He only received 40% of the popular vote. If Lincoln had not been elected there may never have been a Republican Party. It might have stopped right there with their second defeat. Then all those Constitutional Amendments they created may not ever have been. Let's not forget the two elections Bush Jr won! So i guess your opinion is the founding fathers had it wrong? That we should not be a Republic? Yes i seem to remember that kennedy also did not win the popular vote and lincoln did! Your facts are always so skewed even in a democracy Lincoln would have been elected because he received the majority of the popular vote! the guy that came in second had 29% and there where two other candidates sharing the rest! Yes it is true he did not get over 50% but no candidate did, who should they have made president? Jeez.......... shredded again! OK! I've been shredded. Once! He was the first Republican president, winning entirely on the strength of his support in the North: he was not even on the ballot in ten states in the South, and won only two of 996 counties in all the Southern states. Lincoln received 1,866,452 votes, Douglas 1,376,957 votes, Breckinridge 849,781 votes, and Bell 588,789 votes. The electoral vote was decisive: Lincoln had 180 and his opponents added together had only 123. don't sweat it i have been wrong before too! the fact you admited it means their is hope for you! I will turn you into a conservative yet! lol.... just kidding.. Wrong? Not you? LOL The founding fathers had the election process designed so that the second place candidate became VP. Many thing have changed. |
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