I've written to the moderator requesting permission to write this, received no response so will suffer the consequences should there be any forth coming.

A writing community survives and flourishes upon the support of its member base, it's willingness to share, and to relate. Personally I think it selfish to post and expect comments, kudos whatever without returning the favor, and commenting on your own comments does not count. Secondly I think it VERY disrespectful; for someone to post a poem within the thread of another Authors poem, not only does it distract the other readers who have happened upon that thread, but it is a tacky self promotion.....These are my opinions and thoughts and don't reflect that of any one else from this website that I know of. The bottom line is, try to support each other, we have some great writers within this forum and I'd like to see them inspired to enhance their gifts.....Have a great holiday season......

On getting published

"I've often wondered who would want to buy a tear stained book"

Bob Shank-Aug 22nd, 2006

I have posted poems relating to response of a written piece. At times I have asked permission with the writer first. I do not wish to offend any writer here. There is a casual essence here. I appreciate opening conversation with those who will feel comfortable to. Motives for a writer can be as simple as sharing the heart and becoming inspired by a work. Here on this forum and many others of same type,we are given freedom to have an ability to open dialogue and express immediate gratification.
To those, and you, of whom feel my disrespect, I apologize. How then do we encourage without making this site a breeding ground for petty differences? Shall we police and pass amends here as well, wrapping our freedom in whose flag of discriminations? May we just write and allow individuals to decide for themselves?

Sharris, the title is called ettiquette, you can basically do what you want within the framework of the sites rules and procedures, these are my PERSONAl opinions which I as you are entitled to. There is never a freedom lost in ettiquette only respect gained....ettiquette has very little to do with rule enforcement, at least I never saw a constitution app;ied to any definition of it....If you took this personally than perhaps the question is within yourself, not from me......

wow,,,I guess YOU don't like opening your emails as I sent you one about four days ago. Pertaining to THIS, and to YOU here.
As it still yet WAITS to have been OPENED by you, it is then,,still just my THOUGHTS FOR and TO you..
Here it is,and I don't mind my personal,,,mind being opened here,
as Most know that about me and being honest with all.
so please,you may see NOW, my email in mind,,,

Hey man, I wanted to write you and say hi,lol
as we haven't talked in email,and that to let you know and ask here, if my tag alongs on some of your writes up-sit you? or shall I say it this way,,,NOT something you wish to see there,,,because I do that,,,and its ,,like,after reading the write, it allows me to show them,where it took my mind.
BUT DUDE,,,really, if even a small bit of MAN,,,whys he do this **** for,,,???
If that gets in your thoughts,,,PLEASE,,just say for me you would Rather not,,I'm cool with that. and out of a lot of respect for you. I am sending this first class, lol from me to you..
Your writings are very well written and I enjoy reading them,,,I never looked at your profile till today,,but its cool,,
Your pic's all tell me a lot also,,and they were all cool....
You have a gift,of truly feeling someones heart,,,as I feel we share that gift..
You and I both grew, not feeling the love we should have felt,,so we both,,in different ways have tried to show MORE to others for the LACK we both fill inside that we missed.
This place, and talking in type,has really change many areas in my head...all good..lol
And to have thought this uneducated dude here,,,could move another to feel me,,,is like just,,,,awesome to me....if I sound egotistical,,I really am not, its just my expressions of me,,,,,,,,having ANY qualities in helping through my brain,,,is
a place I never knew I could be....
humble of who I am to my center, yet believing in who I am as a man,,also to its center,wink,,,
I talk to much, but please,let me know, and your thoughts?,,will be mine,,I also have dropped you a friends request,,which I don't do very often,,as they mostly ask me,wink,
But have a great day,,and keep your mind and words coming out for us to see...Terry


IF,,,YOU would have opened THIS?

I could have learned that my tag,,or tags to your works,,,
were NOT wanted,,,,,wink, And thats not a problem with me at all.

This PLACE here, is an OPEN PLACE, to see, write type and to FEEL.
WE have done THIS here for a very long time.

Making a PUBLIC STATEMENT,,for us ALL to read,,is a BIT much..
But STILL,,,,,I understand your wishes and will try and PASS-THAT
on to whoever may have MISSED THIS,wink..

WE write,speak, and LIVE as a family type group here, and so we have become very RELAXED in our takings or replies to one and another.

I will say THIS though,,,as for a TAG Added by ME,,,
I assure YOU,,its NOT for the desires to self promote myself in
a tactical way, of muse.........

I explained above,,,my Whys,,,,and its again about NOTHING,,,
BUT,,,,,RESPECT,,,for the writer...so with THAT respect, good day.


As this is OPEN and here NOW,,,

ANY READERS who post HERE, or all you Writers here, PLEASE...

This would be the PLACE NOW for you to also remark on this?

IF YOU FEEL YOU DON'T WANT ANY TAGS on your works,,,
PLEASE,,,LET US ALL KNOW,,,,so we will NOT DO THAT!!!

WE want everyone to be happy and to feel their works done here
our viewed with respect and replies posted,,,DO NOT OFFEND ANYONE..
Thank You, for reading this......

sorry, never received a message from you only a friend request, wondering now if it's the same thing. I don't do the cyber friends thing for two reasons. 1. If I meet someone and enter into a relationship, then it would not be fair to her to be on a dating site or have friends upon one. 2. I take the word "friend" very seriously, maybe too seriously, but that's me.....I'm probably one of the most loyal people one could meet, but you'd only know that if we met.....if you have a hand full of friends you're truly blessed, if you have more than a handful you're lying to yourself....The word genuine applies, thanks for your respectful answer appreciate it.

You have a teacher's heart. Your gifts are appreciated. In my opinion.

and I respect you as well as one of the many gifted ones within this forum, your writes are awe inspiring and very "teaching" themselves/

and and I just want to get in on this.....

I like reading the collection of writing on here.....thats all I'm writin'......smile...teasingbrunette

another tease...lol...course if I had a pair of sneakers like that I'd be passive too....hey when you gonna post that collab we wrote munchkin....oops, did I put you on the spot.....

Your welcome,and WE do SHARE,,many traits,,,friends I to hold to their person,,,as genuine, yet,THIS is the NET,,,and many can NOT be honest with their real person...?
I might add that I would be greatly more humble, in my actions in a new surrounding, or new area to voice in,,,
but then again,,,,I am NOT a WELL EDUCATED MAN....as even the word
etiquette, would be only USED by ME,,,as in a joking format.
I am NOT ashamed of THIS,,just REAL with-it..
And that is also why, I have always let others tag,or say, anything that they feel from their hearts,,,YES,,even anger as to what I have wrote here,,,wink,MANY TIMES over....lol
But to me,,,thats THEIR RIGHTS to say or do...
Life is way to short to be up-set, or depressed, or even put-out a little,,, over a comment that
someone else makes from their hearts desires, to speak-it,,to YOU.

Thats just HOW I look at life and this place here in thoughts..
NOW,,,let me ADD,,,if their words are angered or hurtful to the writer, then THAT can be and WOULD BE,,a different matter,wink..
Your NOTICE,,,we have very little, if NO,,,Critics here with negatives,,,,,,,wink,lol,,,just because MOST-OF-US,,,know we our
NOT PROFESSIONALS in the fields of writing or poetry,wink..
So WE-OUR,,,,,just people and friends who simply TRY to convey
our thoughts into understandable readings that others FEEL...
hopfully,,in their hearts and minds as to what, or how, we're feeling that moment..
I will honor your wishes and respect your ways...
And again,,you do have a very special talent, that MOST will never know, nor possess,,,,,,Have a good day and a good time on here..
And I am SORRY,,,I write so much,,its a ME thing,wink..lol

I think I'll have to disagree with you on one point, though your overall message is generally nice.

People shouldn't comment on works if it didn't really touch them. I don't think its appropriate to throw around nice comments simply because you want someone else to come and read your stuff.

I don't want people to comment on my stuff unless they really liked it or really hated it. That's probably the reason I don't actually comment on some of the works I read here, though there have been many nice ones that I've seen thus far.

Just my opinion is all.

but then again,,,,I am NOT a WELL EDUCATED MAN....as even the word
etiquette, would be only USED by ME,,,as in a joking format.
I am NOT ashamed of THIS,,just REAL with-it..

^and yet you may possess the greatest education of all....education of self....I myself have basically been self taught through being an introvert and reading everything I could get my hands on early in life, it took me away from the abyss called reality....Now I choose to live life rather than run from it. Your talents can't be found in spelling or sentence structure but rather in a more valuable place....Honesty......and you do express that good enough for all to comprehend. They could learn from you.

People shouldn't comment on works if it didn't really touch them. I don't think its appropriate to throw around nice comments simply because you want someone else to come and read your stuff

absolutely agree, that wasn't my point, me personally unless you have some constructive criticism I don't really need comments unless of course the message applies and or one finds it relevant to their life, then I'd like to hear their perspective, but I don't need condescending comments....I know I can write, it may not be good but it's good enough to get my point across....this was basically for other writers who have a lot of talent and are really unaware of how good they are, Plastic pancakes being one of those.

I've sat here and read this thread on etiquette even though at times I feel it has to do with more out of Respect not to tag others work.

At least not until you get to know that person to make sure it does not offend them. There are a few within the Poetry section that I have even at times tagged one of their poems. Which in fact was wrote due to the one they in fact posted. The only time I have ever done so is with those that we have in fact tagged each other at times and not before I actually asked them if it was okay.

But then there are some I would never think of tagging their work for they should in fact stand alone. If in fact their work inspired me to write one then I have that option to post it alone as well and note at the bottom due to a certain one I was inspired to write this one.

I do understand those that in fact feel it is okay to do so and those that they would rather it not happen.

Even though there are no rules within the Forums saying it is against the rules. One should always out of respect ask before doing so.

As far as posting responses to others writes I will admit I do not spend as much time within the Poetry section as I once did. But when I do respond to writes I'm very sincere with what I say. I do tend to not leave a response to those that I truly do not understand.

But just because I do not respond it is due to most likely I either did not click with it or I did not read it.

Myself those that have taken the time to read what I post and they can relate to what I wrote I really appreciate the responses and do always try to respond to what they in fact said. I do not in turn read theirs just in order to get more responses but due to I can as well relate to their work as well.

For actually I feel it should be out of Respect for those that took the time to read and to leave a response that we should in fact acknowledge then as well. Not saying one must respond to each single one but at least come back and say thank you.

But then that is just my opinion only and I can in fact respect those that do not see things the same way as I do. But one should show the same respect as others show them.......

I see nothing wrong with your post and I am a moderator. I think some of us have been here for so long posting that there is a familiarity and real knowledge of each other. Years ago I was on a site that was specifically for serious critiquing. This site doesn't fit that criteria.

That being said, we have had many writers on here who have published books behind them. The majority of us write for our own satisfaction and are protective of people that find the courage to post. We are not professionals. We are blessed here with many talented writers that can offer and assist us with our craft.

Being totally unaware of the etiquette of not adding something to someone's poem, I apologize. Many of us have been accustom to being moved by a piece and adding something to show our friend what it meant to us. No one would intentionally be rude. Chalk it up to being ignorant to what would offend another.

valid points from both of you, thanks, and yes I guess it basically comes down to a decision between the members (writers) themselves, which is as it should be.....appreciate the input

that being said, maybe you'd consider starting a positive critique forum, or you probably alreadydiscussed it and don't want the headaches.