Topic: SIN?
Milesoftheusa's photo
Tue 12/01/09 01:03 PM

To me this tells what sin is from the scriptues pure and simple.

If you know to do good and do not do it,then it is sin to you..

Blessings...Miles


So sin is different for every person..Those who do not know better it is not accounted to them as sin..Sin is deliberate. Shalom....Miles

ujGearhead's photo
Tue 12/01/09 01:05 PM
Sin is doing upon another what you wouldn't want done towards you.

Milesoftheusa's photo
Tue 12/01/09 01:06 PM

Sin is doing upon another what you wouldn't want done towards you.


Absolutely a golden rule

markumX's photo
Tue 12/01/09 02:45 PM
with all due respect jr there's no such thing as a "muslim jihadist" this is a word created by Fox news. Jihad in arabic means to struggle. So a farmer whether he's muslim or not struggling to keep his crop healthy to harvest is in a state of jihad.


msharmony's photo
Tue 12/01/09 04:04 PM


Sin is doing upon another what you wouldn't want done towards you.


Absolutely a golden rule



well,,I wouldnt want anyone to feed me chitlins,, but my dad loved them. Was I sinning when I made them for him?

jrbogie's photo
Wed 12/02/09 09:12 AM
Edited by jrbogie on Wed 12/02/09 09:15 AM

with all due respect jr there's no such thing as a "muslim jihadist" this is a word created by Fox news. Jihad in arabic means to struggle. So a farmer whether he's muslim or not struggling to keep his crop healthy to harvest is in a state of jihad.




jihad is a word in the english language as well. one definition of the word is "a holy war undertanken as a sacred duty by muslims". the majority of muslims are not of arabic ethnicity or culture nor do most muslims speak aribic. fox news communicates to its viewers in english. many if not most english words are derived from many other languages including latin, greek, arabic, etc. it is not incorrect to use the word "muslim jihadist" when referring to a terrorist from brunai in indonesia who bombs a night club in bali while shouting his love for allah where not a soul spoke arabic or has even been to saudi arabia.

jrbogie's photo
Wed 12/02/09 09:25 AM


Sin is doing upon another what you wouldn't want done towards you.


Absolutely a golden rule


so it's golden to not do upon others that which you wouldn't want done towards you? i avoid sugar but i have a buddy who loves a real coke. you know, coke classic with lot's of sugar and caffine. so i'm sinning by keeping a six pack of coke in the fridge for when he visits? i don't want coke offered to me because i still love the stuff and don't always deal well with temptation. but i can't offer a coke to him without sinning? pepsi?

Milesoftheusa's photo
Wed 12/02/09 10:06 AM



Sin is doing upon another what you wouldn't want done towards you.


Absolutely a golden rule


so it's golden to not do upon others that which you wouldn't want done towards you? i avoid sugar but i have a buddy who loves a real coke. you know, coke classic with lot's of sugar and caffine. so i'm sinning by keeping a six pack of coke in the fridge for when he visits? i don't want coke offered to me because i still love the stuff and don't always deal well with temptation. but i can't offer a coke to him without sinning? pepsi?


Why do we want to act as if we are so nieve we do not understand the underlining principle.

if you know to do good and do not do it then it is sin to you.

Are you doing good by being hospitable? I think so...Shalom...Miles

jrbogie's photo
Wed 12/02/09 10:17 AM




Sin is doing upon another what you wouldn't want done towards you.


Absolutely a golden rule


so it's golden to not do upon others that which you wouldn't want done towards you? i avoid sugar but i have a buddy who loves a real coke. you know, coke classic with lot's of sugar and caffine. so i'm sinning by keeping a six pack of coke in the fridge for when he visits? i don't want coke offered to me because i still love the stuff and don't always deal well with temptation. but i can't offer a coke to him without sinning? pepsi?


Why do we want to act as if we are so nieve we do not understand the underlining principle.

if you know to do good and do not do it then it is sin to you.

Are you doing good by being hospitable? I think so...Shalom...Miles


the underlining principle is that the golden rule is not so golden. my point is, why would i do unto others as i'd have done unto me when i can do unto others as THEY would have done unto THEM? this is a perfect example of how the religious go wrong by following scripture without using their brains to reason. if i can do something for you that would make you happy is that not the very best i can do for you? why waste time thinking about what would make me happy when i could spend the time thinking about what would make you happy? it's just plain common sense. but then there's nothing sensical about any scripture i've read so i'll go with my reasoning.

CowboyGH's photo
Wed 12/02/09 10:19 AM
Edited by CowboyGH on Wed 12/02/09 10:20 AM
we are to love one another, so being mean to someone or rude or anything other in that way is a sin. This one covers it pretty much, cause if we love one another then we wouldn't steal from each other, say rude or hurtful things, we would not fight with each other, and so many mean or rude things we would not do if we loved one another.

The 10 commandments if we fail on any of them that is a sin

We are to fogive others there trespasses as our father forgives us, if we don't then that is a sin.

There are many more found in the bible, i don't know them all.

jrbogie's photo
Wed 12/02/09 10:36 AM
rude does suck huh? most of the people in US prisons are there because they were quite rude. 85 percent of those convicted felons believe in god and derive their morals from scripture.

AdventureBegins's photo
Wed 12/02/09 10:50 AM

with all due respect jr there's no such thing as a "muslim jihadist" this is a word created by Fox news. Jihad in arabic means to struggle. So a farmer whether he's muslim or not struggling to keep his crop healthy to harvest is in a state of jihad.



Dude I read about Islamic Jihad when I was in school...(a long time ago) Long before Fox news even existed...

Jihad is struggle in faith of god not just 'to struggle'... and those that use it now to sow fear have been twisted by men purporting to be in 'tune' with the words of a prophet that would probablly not even acknowledge their presense if he were still around.

msharmony's photo
Wed 12/02/09 11:52 AM





Sin is doing upon another what you wouldn't want done towards you.


Absolutely a golden rule


so it's golden to not do upon others that which you wouldn't want done towards you? i avoid sugar but i have a buddy who loves a real coke. you know, coke classic with lot's of sugar and caffine. so i'm sinning by keeping a six pack of coke in the fridge for when he visits? i don't want coke offered to me because i still love the stuff and don't always deal well with temptation. but i can't offer a coke to him without sinning? pepsi?


Why do we want to act as if we are so nieve we do not understand the underlining principle.

if you know to do good and do not do it then it is sin to you.

Are you doing good by being hospitable? I think so...Shalom...Miles


the underlining principle is that the golden rule is not so golden. my point is, why would i do unto others as i'd have done unto me when i can do unto others as THEY would have done unto THEM? this is a perfect example of how the religious go wrong by following scripture without using their brains to reason. if i can do something for you that would make you happy is that not the very best i can do for you? why waste time thinking about what would make me happy when i could spend the time thinking about what would make you happy? it's just plain common sense. but then there's nothing sensical about any scripture i've read so i'll go with my reasoning.


I think the underlying principle is about how we TREAT people. I was just being facetious. In my example, I wouldnt want to be fed chitlings because I dont like them,,likewise I shouldnt feed things to others that they dont like. I dont know that it would be a SIN to do so, but Im sure that by not doing so,,it hurts noone and we have a greater chance of not sinning. Its best to err on the side of safety in otherwise, when deciding how to treat others. We want the best of treatment and should give others the same.

jrbogie's photo
Wed 12/02/09 12:23 PM

We want the best of treatment and should give others the same.


agreed but the golden rule esposes that the treatment of others should mirror how i as the person offering treatment wish to be treated. that's simply selfish and self centered thinking. seems to me the best of treatment would be how the one recieving the treatment wants to be treated. if i give you a christmas present, is it best that i think of my wants, needs and desires? or would you more appreciate my giving some thought to your needs, wants and desires? this christian golden rule is really quite self centered. it shouts elitism. "everybody get's what i want because what i want is best for everybody." it allows for no individual thought.

Milesoftheusa's photo
Wed 12/02/09 01:34 PM





Sin is doing upon another what you wouldn't want done towards you.


Absolutely a golden rule


so it's golden to not do upon others that which you wouldn't want done towards you? i avoid sugar but i have a buddy who loves a real coke. you know, coke classic with lot's of sugar and caffine. so i'm sinning by keeping a six pack of coke in the fridge for when he visits? i don't want coke offered to me because i still love the stuff and don't always deal well with temptation. but i can't offer a coke to him without sinning? pepsi?


Why do we want to act as if we are so nieve we do not understand the underlining principle.

if you know to do good and do not do it then it is sin to you.

Are you doing good by being hospitable? I think so...Shalom...Miles


the underlining principle is that the golden rule is not so golden. my point is, why would i do unto others as i'd have done unto me when i can do unto others as THEY would have done unto THEM? this is a perfect example of how the religious go wrong by following scripture without using their brains to reason. if i can do something for you that would make you happy is that not the very best i can do for you? why waste time thinking about what would make me happy when i could spend the time thinking about what would make you happy? it's just plain common sense. but then there's nothing sensical about any scripture i've read so i'll go with my reasoning.



Apperently u want to show where religion is wrong..
Just what do you think what i said means? Can you come up with something better that this world if followed could possibly do.


If u know to do good and u do not do it then it is sin to you.

What does that mean to u? Shalom...Miles

jeffdawsey's photo
Wed 12/02/09 02:48 PM

Sin is anything that is not done in FAITH or that goes against the commandments and the Word of God. It's not just the 10 commandments, but all sin fall under those categories so I guess you could say that.

jrbogie's photo
Thu 12/03/09 06:03 AM






Sin is doing upon another what you wouldn't want done towards you.


Absolutely a golden rule


so it's golden to not do upon others that which you wouldn't want done towards you? i avoid sugar but i have a buddy who loves a real coke. you know, coke classic with lot's of sugar and caffine. so i'm sinning by keeping a six pack of coke in the fridge for when he visits? i don't want coke offered to me because i still love the stuff and don't always deal well with temptation. but i can't offer a coke to him without sinning? pepsi?


Why do we want to act as if we are so nieve we do not understand the underlining principle.

if you know to do good and do not do it then it is sin to you.

Are you doing good by being hospitable? I think so...Shalom...Miles


the underlining principle is that the golden rule is not so golden. my point is, why would i do unto others as i'd have done unto me when i can do unto others as THEY would have done unto THEM? this is a perfect example of how the religious go wrong by following scripture without using their brains to reason. if i can do something for you that would make you happy is that not the very best i can do for you? why waste time thinking about what would make me happy when i could spend the time thinking about what would make you happy? it's just plain common sense. but then there's nothing sensical about any scripture i've read so i'll go with my reasoning.



Apperently u want to show where religion is wrong..
Just what do you think what i said means? Can you come up with something better that this world if followed could possibly do.


If u know to do good and u do not do it then it is sin to you.

What does that mean to u? Shalom...Miles


i never said that religion is wrong did i? i merely question whether it's right. i posed the question. i did not answer it in the negative. you're the one touting the righteousness of religion. i simply point out that one can live a good life and sin less than a faithful without believing in fanasy. yes, i've developed morals that tell me what i must do to do good as you say. if i don't do it is a sin to me. that's precisely what that means to me.

msharmony's photo
Thu 12/03/09 07:38 AM


Sin is anything that is not done in FAITH or that goes against the commandments and the Word of God. It's not just the 10 commandments, but all sin fall under those categories so I guess you could say that.



i agree, i look to the ten commandments and Jesus Sermon on the Mount to understand what sins I must turn from.

Mayhem_J's photo
Tue 12/08/09 09:55 AM

we are to love one another, so being mean to someone or rude or anything other in that way is a sin. This one covers it pretty much, cause if we love one another then we wouldn't steal from each other, say rude or hurtful things, we would not fight with each other, and so many mean or rude things we would not do if we loved one another.

The 10 commandments if we fail on any of them that is a sin

We are to fogive others there trespasses as our father forgives us, if we don't then that is a sin.

There are many more found in the bible, i don't know them all.


Your father...not our father. Hes not my father.

msharmony's photo
Tue 12/08/09 10:03 AM

There are far more sins, than that of the ones above sin,,
And THATS A FACT, wink......Yet,,MANY ACT,that they our, w/o sin.
No man or woman,,,although thats NOT stated that way, is above sin.

I often wonder just how many Christians today, Think, and believe
that heaven, is the frozen place of time, as written THEN that it is
still THAT,,,Today?

Jesus wore the clothes of that era,,,here on earth THEN.

What, would HE wear, In his RETURN now?

Opens MANY thoughts as to as WE have CHANGED and become,
WHY, should we FEEL, HEAVEN,,,,,Did Not?????

Jesus, as with Adam's design,,as being un-clothes ed,
Could have remained raw as to cover him self,,,
Yet,,He lived and wore,,that which was traditional, to THAT era..?

Sorry,,,,back to sins,,,,in my thoughts of WONDER,,,,excuse me.


Earth changes because of people and their choices, it evolves based upon the actions of people. Heaven is not earthly or human and has no reason to change for earth or man.