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Msharmony girl although I disagree with you, you're holding your own pretty well. you put up a good fight I gotta give you credit for that I think both of you girls are pretty hot!! That's why, when I dissagree with msharmony, I have to close my eyes or I wouldn't be able to. Yeah off topic but gotta give her credit. Okay okay Obama has made things worse. We are looking at big time government control that will affect every thing in our lives. It's going to get worse unless we stop them in their tracks. |
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barack Husein NO-bama will never make it, with ideas like this:
JMO *TMF* |
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I'm just saying.......:
JMO *TMF* |
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I'm just saying.......: JMO *TMF* oh gosh, yeah made me dizzy. it's time to clean house, boy 2012 cannot come fast enough |
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OBAMA has been one of the best presidents we have had in the last 40 years and i didn't vote for him . the last time we had a recession in 1979 it was the same as this one but not as bad it took about 8 years to get back to work . this time its different because the republicans have sent the work over sea and the democrats are allowing the illegals to stay and keep or jobs . Tyson chicken was raided and there illegals sent back to donder land . they raised there pay scale $4. per hour and then the people in arkansas now have the work again . that's the big fight here not the gays not the medical . Your jobs not whose blowing who .
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No big suprise here the non stop negative anti Obama propaganda by the business elites have half the country brainwashed. Look how low Bush was even with all the Rah-rah by the media. The free passes given for the lies on the Iraq war and the over all wreck he made of the country hardly made frontline news. It seems to me Obama gets nothing but negative press on every issue even though he is the guy trying to clean up the mess of 8 years of republican neglect. I suppose if americans are so stupid they no longer deserve to be the leaders of the free world. Its no small wonder we are declineing in every catagory that is measurable. Thank you for being a thinking/reading/paying attention person. How anyone can say all this is due to our current president is beyond me but they beleive it vehemently. |
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No big suprise here the non stop negative anti Obama propaganda by the business elites have half the country brainwashed. Look how low Bush was even with all the Rah-rah by the media. The free passes given for the lies on the Iraq war and the over all wreck he made of the country hardly made frontline news. It seems to me Obama gets nothing but negative press on every issue even though he is the guy trying to clean up the mess of 8 years of republican neglect. I suppose if americans are so stupid they no longer deserve to be the leaders of the free world. Its no small wonder we are declineing in every catagory that is measurable. Thank you for being a thinking/reading/paying attention person. How anyone can say all this is due to our current president is beyond me but they beleive it vehemently. it is because power has been increasingly consolidated in Washington for the last couple centuries. The more power the Feds have, the more they intrude into peoples' lives-thus earning resentment that you witness. Plus, most people don't understand the constitution, which is why they allow such nonsense as Obamacare and the Iraq invasion to happen. The Washington elites seem to be a good reflection of the majority of Americans-greedy, ignorant, and violent. |
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OBAMA has been one of the best presidents we have had in the last 40 years and i didn't vote for him . the last time we had a recession in 1979 it was the same as this one but not as bad it took about 8 years to get back to work . this time its different because the republicans have sent the work over sea and the democrats are allowing the illegals to stay and keep or jobs . Tyson chicken was raided and there illegals sent back to donder land . they raised there pay scale $4. per hour and then the people in arkansas now have the work again . that's the big fight here not the gays not the medical . Your jobs not whose blowing who . I havent been as proud of any president since Clinton,,but its too early to say if he is the best or the worst,,there just hasnt been time to start summing up his presidency when it is just getting started and there were so many issues to be handled. |
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Americans didn't have much of a choice this past election. It was a disgrace and the outcome was just as bad. Hind sight is 20/20. 2012 cannot come fast enough for me. Kept americans in fear? Do you not think there are some things that are so serious that we need to keep our eyes on? Hmmm does Ft. Hood ring a bell? That was a terrorist right in our own military, attacked our own military. Tell me that's not real. It is VERY real the way the mentally ill (whether christian or muslim) is overlooked and dismissed UNTIL a tragedy happens. There are many things serious enough to keep our eye on, but the threat of potential terrorism is not so serious as to ignore all the other ACTUAL issues IN PROGRESS right now. WE all have our opinions. Mine was to elect the nominee who addressed the things I was concerned with. Sorry, but mostly what I heard from the Mccain Palin ticket was his military record(which is a great asset, concerning our safety,, I agree). I didnt hear much significant discussion or concern about issues like education or healthcare or the economy which in my day to day life concern me much more urgently than the possibility (that has and always will be there) of some lunatics acting out against America. I voted on the issues that were important to me and I stil stand by them because I have NO REASON to believe McCain/Palin would do any better. Ya know...we usually see things pretty much the same way. But at this point, I must respectfully disagree with you. Obama's entire campaign basically consisted of two words. Hope and Change. I heard next to nothing from him on any particular issue. He had no plan for the Health Care issue. HE still doesn't. He is just letting the Democrats in the House and Senate write things up for him. In all the speeches I heard from him, there may have been once or twice when I actually heard something with substance from him. Hope and Change. Yes We Can. Etc etc etc. I take nothing away from him as a speaker. He is very, very good. But had it not been for the media's love affair with him, people would have better realized that he was doing a whole lot of talking without actually saying much of anything at all. |
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Americans didn't have much of a choice this past election. It was a disgrace and the outcome was just as bad. Hind sight is 20/20. 2012 cannot come fast enough for me. Kept americans in fear? Do you not think there are some things that are so serious that we need to keep our eyes on? Hmmm does Ft. Hood ring a bell? That was a terrorist right in our own military, attacked our own military. Tell me that's not real. It is VERY real the way the mentally ill (whether christian or muslim) is overlooked and dismissed UNTIL a tragedy happens. There are many things serious enough to keep our eye on, but the threat of potential terrorism is not so serious as to ignore all the other ACTUAL issues IN PROGRESS right now. WE all have our opinions. Mine was to elect the nominee who addressed the things I was concerned with. Sorry, but mostly what I heard from the Mccain Palin ticket was his military record(which is a great asset, concerning our safety,, I agree). I didnt hear much significant discussion or concern about issues like education or healthcare or the economy which in my day to day life concern me much more urgently than the possibility (that has and always will be there) of some lunatics acting out against America. I voted on the issues that were important to me and I stil stand by them because I have NO REASON to believe McCain/Palin would do any better. Ya know...we usually see things pretty much the same way. But at this point, I must respectfully disagree with you. Obama's entire campaign basically consisted of two words. Hope and Change. I heard next to nothing from him on any particular issue. He had no plan for the Health Care issue. HE still doesn't. He is just letting the Democrats in the House and Senate write things up for him. In all the speeches I heard from him, there may have been once or twice when I actually heard something with substance from him. Hope and Change. Yes We Can. Etc etc etc. I take nothing away from him as a speaker. He is very, very good. But had it not been for the media's love affair with him, people would have better realized that he was doing a whole lot of talking without actually saying much of anything at all. We heard different things, apparently,,, as happens with all presidential debates. If you didnt hear what you needed to from him then you did right not voting for him, same as I did not voting for Mccain. |
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Americans didn't have much of a choice this past election. It was a disgrace and the outcome was just as bad. Hind sight is 20/20. 2012 cannot come fast enough for me. Kept americans in fear? Do you not think there are some things that are so serious that we need to keep our eyes on? Hmmm does Ft. Hood ring a bell? That was a terrorist right in our own military, attacked our own military. Tell me that's not real. It is VERY real the way the mentally ill (whether christian or muslim) is overlooked and dismissed UNTIL a tragedy happens. There are many things serious enough to keep our eye on, but the threat of potential terrorism is not so serious as to ignore all the other ACTUAL issues IN PROGRESS right now. WE all have our opinions. Mine was to elect the nominee who addressed the things I was concerned with. Sorry, but mostly what I heard from the Mccain Palin ticket was his military record(which is a great asset, concerning our safety,, I agree). I didnt hear much significant discussion or concern about issues like education or healthcare or the economy which in my day to day life concern me much more urgently than the possibility (that has and always will be there) of some lunatics acting out against America. I voted on the issues that were important to me and I stil stand by them because I have NO REASON to believe McCain/Palin would do any better. Ya know...we usually see things pretty much the same way. But at this point, I must respectfully disagree with you. Obama's entire campaign basically consisted of two words. Hope and Change. I heard next to nothing from him on any particular issue. He had no plan for the Health Care issue. HE still doesn't. He is just letting the Democrats in the House and Senate write things up for him. In all the speeches I heard from him, there may have been once or twice when I actually heard something with substance from him. Hope and Change. Yes We Can. Etc etc etc. I take nothing away from him as a speaker. He is very, very good. But had it not been for the media's love affair with him, people would have better realized that he was doing a whole lot of talking without actually saying much of anything at all. We heard different things, apparently,,, as happens with all presidential debates. If you didnt hear what you needed to from him then you did right not voting for him, same as I did not voting for Mccain. I didn't vote for either one of them. I consider a choice of the lesser of two evils to be no choice at all. It's gotten to the point that the two sides are so extreme that neither side is truly " for the good of the country ". This kind of thing is exactly why the founding fathers never intended ours to be a two party system. There are no checks and balances. |
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OBAMA has been one of the best presidents we have had in the last 40 years and i didn't vote for him . the last time we had a recession in 1979 it was the same as this one but not as bad it took about 8 years to get back to work . this time its different because the republicans have sent the work over sea and the democrats are allowing the illegals to stay and keep or jobs . Tyson chicken was raided and there illegals sent back to donder land . they raised there pay scale $4. per hour and then the people in arkansas now have the work again . that's the big fight here not the gays not the medical . Your jobs not whose blowing who . I havent been as proud of any president since Clinton,,but its too early to say if he is the best or the worst,,there just hasnt been time to start summing up his presidency when it is just getting started and there were so many issues to be handled. like the Saturday night live skit says..." I can sum up in two words his accomlishments this first year...Jack !...and...Squat !! "...not to mention that he's made everything worse...including race relations... |
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Americans didn't have much of a choice this past election. It was a disgrace and the outcome was just as bad. Hind sight is 20/20. 2012 cannot come fast enough for me. Kept americans in fear? Do you not think there are some things that are so serious that we need to keep our eyes on? Hmmm does Ft. Hood ring a bell? That was a terrorist right in our own military, attacked our own military. Tell me that's not real. It is VERY real the way the mentally ill (whether christian or muslim) is overlooked and dismissed UNTIL a tragedy happens. There are many things serious enough to keep our eye on, but the threat of potential terrorism is not so serious as to ignore all the other ACTUAL issues IN PROGRESS right now. WE all have our opinions. Mine was to elect the nominee who addressed the things I was concerned with. Sorry, but mostly what I heard from the Mccain Palin ticket was his military record(which is a great asset, concerning our safety,, I agree). I didnt hear much significant discussion or concern about issues like education or healthcare or the economy which in my day to day life concern me much more urgently than the possibility (that has and always will be there) of some lunatics acting out against America. I voted on the issues that were important to me and I stil stand by them because I have NO REASON to believe McCain/Palin would do any better. Ya know...we usually see things pretty much the same way. But at this point, I must respectfully disagree with you. Obama's entire campaign basically consisted of two words. Hope and Change. I heard next to nothing from him on any particular issue. He had no plan for the Health Care issue. HE still doesn't. He is just letting the Democrats in the House and Senate write things up for him. In all the speeches I heard from him, there may have been once or twice when I actually heard something with substance from him. Hope and Change. Yes We Can. Etc etc etc. I take nothing away from him as a speaker. He is very, very good. But had it not been for the media's love affair with him, people would have better realized that he was doing a whole lot of talking without actually saying much of anything at all. We heard different things, apparently,,, as happens with all presidential debates. If you didnt hear what you needed to from him then you did right not voting for him, same as I did not voting for Mccain. I didn't vote for either one of them. I consider a choice of the lesser of two evils to be no choice at all. It's gotten to the point that the two sides are so extreme that neither side is truly " for the good of the country ". This kind of thing is exactly why the founding fathers never intended ours to be a two party system. There are no checks and balances. both sides are extreme ?...how can you say that the Republicans are extreme...last time I looked...the 2008 nominee McCain is a moderate...the Republican parties problem is that they aren't Conservative enough... |
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OBAMA has been one of the best presidents we have had in the last 40 years and i didn't vote for him . the last time we had a recession in 1979 it was the same as this one but not as bad it took about 8 years to get back to work . this time its different because the republicans have sent the work over sea and the democrats are allowing the illegals to stay and keep or jobs . Tyson chicken was raided and there illegals sent back to donder land . they raised there pay scale $4. per hour and then the people in arkansas now have the work again . that's the big fight here not the gays not the medical . Your jobs not whose blowing who . I havent been as proud of any president since Clinton,,but its too early to say if he is the best or the worst,,there just hasnt been time to start summing up his presidency when it is just getting started and there were so many issues to be handled. like the Saturday night live skit says..." I can sum up in two words his accomlishments this first year...Jack !...and...Squat !! "...not to mention that he's made everything worse...including race relations... You are welcome to your opinion, I feel he has done plenty and I feel he has nothing to do with people's race relations issues. |
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both sides are extreme ?...how can you say that the Republicans are extreme...last time I looked...the 2008 nominee McCain is a moderate...the Republican parties problem is that they aren't Conservative enough...
The Dems want to control everything in our lives. They want to control everything in business. The Reps want an unfettered free market. They want more of the same. The gap between the richest and the poorest was larger than it was at any point in history. Companies like Enron and Adelphia were a result of that free market. Thousands upon thousands of manufacturing jobs disappeared in this country and showed up in other countries. Also a result of the " free market ". Conservatives think a free market and cutting taxes on the highest paid people will create jobs. It might create a few, but compared to what we have lost, I don't think the losses could be made up. Most of the highest paid people, and the larger businesses will take those tax cuts with a smile, create a few hundred jobs here and there, and then simply pocket the higher profits without bringing significant numbers of jobs back to this country because their profit margins wouldn't be as high. Oh. As far as Mc Cain being a " moderate "... I don't think a moderate would be wanting to grant amnesty to several million people who are here illegally. |
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both sides are extreme ?...how can you say that the Republicans are extreme...last time I looked...the 2008 nominee McCain is a moderate...the Republican parties problem is that they aren't Conservative enough...
The Dems want to control everything in our lives. They want to control everything in business. The Reps want an unfettered free market. They want more of the same. The gap between the richest and the poorest was larger than it was at any point in history. Companies like Enron and Adelphia were a result of that free market. Thousands upon thousands of manufacturing jobs disappeared in this country and showed up in other countries. Also a result of the " free market ". Conservatives think a free market and cutting taxes on the highest paid people will create jobs. It might create a few, but compared to what we have lost, I don't think the losses could be made up. Most of the highest paid people, and the larger businesses will take those tax cuts with a smile, create a few hundred jobs here and there, and then simply pocket the higher profits without bringing significant numbers of jobs back to this country because their profit margins wouldn't be as high. Oh. As far as Mc Cain being a " moderate "... I don't think a moderate would be wanting to grant amnesty to several million people who are here illegally. Justa,, Im thinking about pancakes for breakfast..would you care for some,,,,? |
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Edited by
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both sides are extreme ?...how can you say that the Republicans are extreme...last time I looked...the 2008 nominee McCain is a moderate...the Republican parties problem is that they aren't Conservative enough...
The Dems want to control everything in our lives. They want to control everything in business. The Reps want an unfettered free market. They want more of the same. The gap between the richest and the poorest was larger than it was at any point in history. Companies like Enron and Adelphia were a result of that free market. Thousands upon thousands of manufacturing jobs disappeared in this country and showed up in other countries. Also a result of the " free market ". Conservatives think a free market and cutting taxes on the highest paid people will create jobs. It might create a few, but compared to what we have lost, I don't think the losses could be made up. Most of the highest paid people, and the larger businesses will take those tax cuts with a smile, create a few hundred jobs here and there, and then simply pocket the higher profits without bringing significant numbers of jobs back to this country because their profit margins wouldn't be as high. Oh. As far as Mc Cain being a " moderate "... I don't think a moderate would be wanting to grant amnesty to several million people who are here illegally. The issues you bring up are not symptoms of the free market. They are the result of government and central bank manipulation of the market through taxation, inflation, and deflation. Not to mention centralization of regulation. This has been documented over and over again by everyone from Mises to Thomas Woods and beyond. It's naive to think that any other entity but the free market creates jobs. In order to "create" a job, the government must tax, inflate, or borrow and give money to a third party-this is DESTRUCTION of capital, not capital creation. The entrepreneur, on the other hand, risks his own capital and/or credit. If the entrepreneur fails, it is only he that suffers. If the government fails, EVERYONE suffers to some extent or another. The only reason we see private failures affect others is the network of dependency created by the Federal Reserve and national fiscal policy. For further reading, see "The Mystery Of Banking", by Murray Rothbard, "The Road To Serfdom" by F. Hayek, and look into Austrian Business Cycle Theory. |
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both sides are extreme ?...how can you say that the Republicans are extreme...last time I looked...the 2008 nominee McCain is a moderate...the Republican parties problem is that they aren't Conservative enough...
The Dems want to control everything in our lives. They want to control everything in business. The Reps want an unfettered free market. They want more of the same. The gap between the richest and the poorest was larger than it was at any point in history. Companies like Enron and Adelphia were a result of that free market. Thousands upon thousands of manufacturing jobs disappeared in this country and showed up in other countries. Also a result of the " free market ". Conservatives think a free market and cutting taxes on the highest paid people will create jobs. It might create a few, but compared to what we have lost, I don't think the losses could be made up. Most of the highest paid people, and the larger businesses will take those tax cuts with a smile, create a few hundred jobs here and there, and then simply pocket the higher profits without bringing significant numbers of jobs back to this country because their profit margins wouldn't be as high. Oh. As far as Mc Cain being a " moderate "... I don't think a moderate would be wanting to grant amnesty to several million people who are here illegally. Justa,, Im thinking about pancakes for breakfast..would you care for some,,,,? Now how could I resist breakfast with a lovely lady like you?? |
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both sides are extreme ?...how can you say that the Republicans are extreme...last time I looked...the 2008 nominee McCain is a moderate...the Republican parties problem is that they aren't Conservative enough...
The Dems want to control everything in our lives. They want to control everything in business. The Reps want an unfettered free market. They want more of the same. The gap between the richest and the poorest was larger than it was at any point in history. Companies like Enron and Adelphia were a result of that free market. Thousands upon thousands of manufacturing jobs disappeared in this country and showed up in other countries. Also a result of the " free market ". Conservatives think a free market and cutting taxes on the highest paid people will create jobs. It might create a few, but compared to what we have lost, I don't think the losses could be made up. Most of the highest paid people, and the larger businesses will take those tax cuts with a smile, create a few hundred jobs here and there, and then simply pocket the higher profits without bringing significant numbers of jobs back to this country because their profit margins wouldn't be as high. Oh. As far as Mc Cain being a " moderate "... I don't think a moderate would be wanting to grant amnesty to several million people who are here illegally. The issues you bring up are not symptoms of the free market. They are the result of government and central bank manipulation of the market through taxation, inflation, and deflation. Not to mention centralization of regulation. This has been documented over and over again by everyone from Mises to Thomas Woods and beyond. It's naive to think that any other entity but the free market creates jobs. In order to "create" a job, the government must tax, inflate, or borrow and give money to a third party-this is DESTRUCTION of capital, not capital creation. The entrepreneur, on the other hand, risks his own capital and/or credit. If the entrepreneur fails, it is only he that suffers. If the government fails, EVERYONE suffers to some extent or another. The only reason we see private failures affect others is the network of dependency created by the Federal Reserve and national fiscal policy. For further reading, see "The Mystery Of Banking", by Murray Rothbard, "The Road To Serfdom" by F. Hayek, and look into Austrian Business Cycle Theory. Taxation and inflation had nothing at all to do with Enron and Adelphia. Greed did. Nothing more than that. I am not arguing the fact that the free market is the best way to go. My only point ( other than that about Mc Cain ) was that the free market allows things like the Enron and Adelphia occurrences. Naive, to me, would be expecting similar occurrences to NOT happen in an unfettered free market and allowing said market to run rampant. |
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