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The world has seen thousands of religions but do you really believe there is a religion of peace and freedom of thoughts ?.
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maybe Bhuddism
but then that's not really a religion. they don't really worship the Buddha more of a way of living and a guide for achieving enlightenment (whatever that is) |
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Definitely not Islam.
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honestly no. I don't think any religion is actually at peace and can think freely, i do think that there are religions who believe in peace and freedom but don't actually practice it. It might seem like they are very open with everything but there is some sort of hypocracy behind it all. I know this first hand since i'm a PK [[ pastor's kid ]] lol
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Edited by
Dragoness
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Sun 11/15/09 09:46 AM
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Once you set a rule, you create hypocrisy.
We set the rule though shalt not kill (yes, men wrote and created the bible)and yet killing in self defense is allowed, killing by the state is allowed, killing in war is allowed, etc... We set a rule though shalt not lie and yet there are situations where lying is allowed, telling people they look nice when you do not feel they do, etc.... Even the rule that I live by in not harming another living creature has to be violated sometimes. So I have to be hypocritical sometimes myself, don't like it though. |
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I know this first hand since i'm a PK [[ pastor's kid ]] lol
heyyyy me too Methodists and Baptist are pretty peaceful until you start dancing or playing cards. then they get riled up |
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The world has seen thousands of religions but do you really believe there is a religion of peace and freedom of thoughts ?. NO |
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Edited by
Quietman_2009
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Sun 11/15/09 09:49 AM
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Once you set a rule, you create hypocrisy. We set the rule though shalt not kill (yes, men wrote and created the bible)and yet killing in self defense is allowed, killing by the state is allowed, killing in war is allowed, etc... We set a rule though shalt not lie and yet there are situations where lying is allowed, telling people they look nice when you do not feel they do, etc.... Even the rule that I live by in not harming another living creature has to be violated sometimes. So I have to be hypocritical sometimes myself, don't like it though. one little thing though they pretty much agree that the original translation a millenia ago was wrong it wasn't "thou shalt not kill" but "thou shalt not murder" semantics maybe but that little shade of meaning changes a lot of stuff |
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Once you set a rule, you create hypocrisy. We set the rule though shalt not kill (yes, men wrote and created the bible)and yet killing in self defense is allowed, killing by the state is allowed, killing in war is allowed, etc... We set a rule though shalt not lie and yet there are situations where lying is allowed, telling people they look nice when you do not feel they do, etc.... Even the rule that I live by in not harming another living creature has to be violated sometimes. So I have to be hypocritical sometimes myself, don't like it though. one little thing though they pretty much agree that the original translation a millenia ago was wrong it wasn't "thou shalt not kill" but "thou shalt not murder" semantics maybe but that little shade of meaning changes a lot of stuff It is all murder technically. Removing a life without it's consent is murder. |
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Edited by
Quietman_2009
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Sun 11/15/09 10:02 AM
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Once you set a rule, you create hypocrisy. We set the rule though shalt not kill (yes, men wrote and created the bible)and yet killing in self defense is allowed, killing by the state is allowed, killing in war is allowed, etc... We set a rule though shalt not lie and yet there are situations where lying is allowed, telling people they look nice when you do not feel they do, etc.... Even the rule that I live by in not harming another living creature has to be violated sometimes. So I have to be hypocritical sometimes myself, don't like it though. one little thing though they pretty much agree that the original translation a millenia ago was wrong it wasn't "thou shalt not kill" but "thou shalt not murder" semantics maybe but that little shade of meaning changes a lot of stuff It is all murder technically. Removing a life without it's consent is murder. yeah it's kinda just a technicality but it leaves wiggle room to justify self defense or war and maybe taking a life as a punishment. but thats a moral argument over my head |
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but as far as the religious people I know,
you're okay as long as you don't start playing cards or wanting to dance didja know that the guys who invented dominos did so because their Baptist mom wouldnt let em play cards? |
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but as far as the religious people I know, you're okay as long as you don't start playing cards or wanting to dance didja know that the guys who invented dominos did so because their Baptist mom wouldnt let em play cards?  cool
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Atheism (aka godlessness).
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Atheism (aka godlessness). I agree. And technically it has been named a religion but shouldn't be. |
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Edited by
Quietman_2009
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Sun 11/15/09 10:29 AM
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the problem with a "religion of peace" is that all religions are administered and interpreted by men
and men are fallible and subject to greed and temper and self righteousness and lust to justify and rationalize their own material and wordly desires and lusts and you can rationalize and justify anything to twist religion around to satisfy those lusts and desires (I mean lust for money and power and prestige and pride and stuff like that) BUT there are religious people of all faiths who truly are men and women of peace My grandfather (the Methodist minister) NEVER EVER raised his voice to anyone in all his life. He never raised his hand to anyone. Once an old drunk crabby assed ranch hand was berating and abusing him on the street. and he just stood there and took it silence. afterwards I asked him why he didnt defend himself and he actually took up for the man and told me how unhappy the guy's life was and he didnt have the heart to make it worse by saying anything whenever the police picked up transients or bums or hitch hikers. they dropped em off at my grandfather's house. where he had four or five moblile homes set up just for those people. and he would feed em and give chores to do to earn food and clothes and shelter and make em feel kinda worth something the guy never killed another animal in his life. I saw him shoot a .22 bullet of a fence post at 100 yards. but would never put a living creature in his sights when we was kids we used to take june bugs (those shiny mettalic green ones) and tie a thread around their abdomen/thorax (or whatever) and let em fly around in circles. And being a kid and bored easy I finally just let one go. My grandfather sat me down for a hour and lectured me cause I was cruel to let a bug fly away with a thread hanging from it to get tangled in a tree somewhere. Even bugs he had compassion for so don't worry about religions being peaceful. religions are of man and will always be twisted and corrupted look for the individuals that are peaceful |
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No religion that allows free will is a religion of peace, because mankind has hatefulness in it. To keep peace requires tenants that lead to peace upon which followers agree. So, I would say, there is no religion that can both be of PEACE and permit free thinking.
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Definitely not Islam. Definitely not Christianity from the crusades to its dark history of colonies....etc . |
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Definitely not Islam. Definitely not Christianity from the crusades to its dark history of colonies....etc . in that case you have to seperate Christanity from Catholicism It was the Catholic Church that manipulated the scripture to enforce their own power over people and add to that the Inquisition (which was mostly a land grab) and the persecution and destruction of the Aztecs to steal their gold to decorate the Vatican and the sack of Constantinople (fellow Christians murdered by the Crusaders) |
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Atheists are not all peaceful and not all good .
The fact that one religion puts itself above the rest of religions opens the door to racism, bigotry.....etc . |
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No religion that allows free will is a religion of peace, because mankind has hatefulness in it. To keep peace requires tenants that lead to peace upon which followers agree. So, I would say, there is no religion that can both be of PEACE and permit free thinking. brilliant. |
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