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Topic: Walmart Man fired for wearing pin
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Fri 10/30/09 03:59 AM
A man working at Walmart was recently fired for wearing a pin that said "one nation under God". How crazy is this. I see a big lawsuit here.

willing2's photo
Fri 10/30/09 04:26 AM
I wonder if his pin was covered in the rule book. If he broke an established rule, he asked for what he got.

With the surplus of people looking for work, Companies can put into place any type of rule and restriction they care to.

Wal-Mart wasn't so extreme. Check Mexico. In American owned factories there, anyone over 40 is let go. They won't hire anyone with tats, body piercings or excess facial hair.

It would be nice to see American companies hiring more wholesome looking employees.


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Fri 10/30/09 04:29 AM

I wonder if his pin was covered in the rule book. If he broke an established rule, he asked for what he got.

With the surplus of people looking for work, Companies can put into place any type of rule and restriction they care to.

Wal-Mart wasn't so extreme. Check Mexico. In American owned factories there, anyone over 40 is let go. They won't hire anyone with tats, body piercings or excess facial hair.

It would be nice to see American companies hiring more wholesome looking employees.




The established rule can be challenged in the courts, it has nothing to do with the economy. What they do in Mexico will have nothing to do with this case.

willing2's photo
Fri 10/30/09 04:39 AM


I wonder if his pin was covered in the rule book. If he broke an established rule, he asked for what he got.

With the surplus of people looking for work, Companies can put into place any type of rule and restriction they care to.

Wal-Mart wasn't so extreme. Check Mexico. In American owned factories there, anyone over 40 is let go. They won't hire anyone with tats, body piercings or excess facial hair.

It would be nice to see American companies hiring more wholesome looking employees.




The established rule can be challenged in the courts, it has nothing to do with the economy. What they do in Mexico will have nothing to do with this case.


I am torn here.

I believe Companies should be free to have rules that will support them making maximum profits. If a pin or other look is offensive to a consumer, that cuts into profits if they decide to not shop there because of being offended.

I don't like supporting Wal-Mart or any other company that does bussiness with Communist China.

If he can get a case, I hope he wins. He'll still be out of a job.

PacificStar48's photo
Fri 10/30/09 04:42 AM
If the company has a dress code that prohibits anything but WalMart service pins which I just imagine they do then he could be terminated for wearing it.

I just wish they would get rid of the cashiers that let it all hang out like hookers on a stroll.

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Fri 10/30/09 04:46 AM



I wonder if his pin was covered in the rule book. If he broke an established rule, he asked for what he got.

With the surplus of people looking for work, Companies can put into place any type of rule and restriction they care to.

Wal-Mart wasn't so extreme. Check Mexico. In American owned factories there, anyone over 40 is let go. They won't hire anyone with tats, body piercings or excess facial hair.

It would be nice to see American companies hiring more wholesome looking employees.




The established rule can be challenged in the courts, it has nothing to do with the economy. What they do in Mexico will have nothing to do with this case.


I am torn here.

I believe Companies should be free to have rules that will support them making maximum profits. If a pin or other look is offensive to a consumer, that cuts into profits if they decide to not shop there because of being offended.

I don't like supporting Wal-Mart or any other company that does bussiness with Communist China.

If he can get a case, I hope he wins. He'll still be out of a job.



If you have ever been to a Walmart I highly doubt this pin offended any consumer that shops there.
I would be very distressed if a company told me I could not wear a pieice of jewelry containing a Christian cross.
It looks like things are headed that way.

jrbogie's photo
Fri 10/30/09 05:49 AM
first of all, it was home depot, not walmart. secondly, your freedom of religion, speech and expression is protected from the government but not from your employer. he can sue but he'll loose big time.

franshade's photo
Fri 10/30/09 06:07 AM


If you have ever been to a Walmart I highly doubt this pin offended any consumer that shops there.
I would be very distressed if a company told me I could not wear a pieice of jewelry containing a Christian cross.
It looks like things are headed that way.


The assumption here is that the offended people, the fact is it was against company policy. Also, it was not only his wearing the pin to Home Depot, he began bringing other religious artifacts.

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Fri 10/30/09 06:09 AM
Edited by franshade on Fri 10/30/09 06:10 AM


If you have ever been to a Walmart I highly doubt this pin offended any consumer that shops there.
I would be very distressed if a company told me I could not wear a pieice of jewelry containing a Christian cross.
It looks like things are headed that way.


The assumption here is that the offended people, the fact is it was against company policy. Also, it was not only his wearing the pin to Home Depot, he began bringing other religious artifacts.

*edit

You would be distressed if the company that employs you told you not to wear a religious jewelry piece, you'd have choices;
1 - stop wearing the piece
2 - wear the piece under your clothing or where it was not readily visible
3 - find another job

I truly don't see a problem.


RoamingOrator's photo
Fri 10/30/09 06:18 AM
This is America, when isn't there a law suit? We don't take personal responsiblity in this country, of course it's not the employees fault for going against the dress code and code of conduct for employees. It's the business' fault for having "rules."


For those that think America is a "Christian country," I might point out that the phrase "Live Free or Die" came from Christ's competition.

msharmony's photo
Fri 10/30/09 06:20 AM



If you have ever been to a Walmart I highly doubt this pin offended any consumer that shops there.
I would be very distressed if a company told me I could not wear a pieice of jewelry containing a Christian cross.
It looks like things are headed that way.


The assumption here is that the offended people, the fact is it was against company policy. Also, it was not only his wearing the pin to Home Depot, he began bringing other religious artifacts.

*edit

You would be distressed if the company that employs you told you not to wear a religious jewelry piece, you'd have choices;
1 - stop wearing the piece
2 - wear the piece under your clothing or where it was not readily visible
3 - find another job

I truly don't see a problem.




Im inclined to agree. I read about it and it was apparently company policy not to wear ANY pins on the uniform other than what the company provided. He broke the rules,,, he had to go. As someone raised christian, Id say it wasnt too much for his employer to ask work time to be about WORK and not self expression. If the rule has been applied equally to everyone, than it is fair.

metalwing's photo
Fri 10/30/09 06:33 AM
I don't know the story but I would be willing to bet it goes deeper than just "wearing a pin". Usually when something like this happens, the employee is told to do something and he refuses ... or tries to get smart by going around the rules another way.

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Fri 10/30/09 06:50 AM




I wonder if his pin was covered in the rule book. If he broke an established rule, he asked for what he got.

With the surplus of people looking for work, Companies can put into place any type of rule and restriction they care to.

Wal-Mart wasn't so extreme. Check Mexico. In American owned factories there, anyone over 40 is let go. They won't hire anyone with tats, body piercings or excess facial hair.

It would be nice to see American companies hiring more wholesome looking employees.




The established rule can be challenged in the courts, it has nothing to do with the economy. What they do in Mexico will have nothing to do with this case.


I am torn here.

I believe Companies should be free to have rules that will support them making maximum profits. If a pin or other look is offensive to a consumer, that cuts into profits if they decide to not shop there because of being offended.

I don't like supporting Wal-Mart or any other company that does bussiness with Communist China.

If he can get a case, I hope he wins. He'll still be out of a job.



If you have ever been to a Walmart I highly doubt this pin offended any consumer that shops there.
I would be very distressed if a company told me I could not wear a pieice of jewelry containing a Christian cross.
It looks like things are headed that way.


I like this point!! How far with it go!?!?! Will they tell someone they cannot wear a cross necklace? I hope not, once they start doing that, they will open up the pandora box!! Will we be saying "I told you so"? I hope not!!noway

msharmony's photo
Fri 10/30/09 06:58 AM
There are many employers all having their own dress codes. If accessories and clothing are that big an issue to anyone when they are 'on the clock.' The solution is to just apply to those companies whose dress code allows your preference for attire. I think people take things out of perspective, I fail to see the harm in the rule that , apparently, the other employees dont have an issue following.

franshade's photo
Fri 10/30/09 07:06 AM

There are many employers all having their own dress codes. If accessories and clothing are that big an issue to anyone when they are 'on the clock.' The solution is to just apply to those companies whose dress code allows your preference for attire. I think people take things out of perspective, I fail to see the harm in the rule that , apparently, the other employees dont have an issue following.


Glad to see someone finds it as cut and dry as I do.

If you don't like the rules, don't work there.


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Fri 10/30/09 07:11 AM
There will be more and more of this kind of crap clogging our legal system the longer the dems/libs are allowed to side track from reality while they sneak their agendas through congress. Nothing to base the firing on, nothing legal anyway in a country that allows religious freedom (oh, forgot, we only give that to muslims, the Christians are even reprimanded for daring to say Merry Christmas).

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Fri 10/30/09 07:23 AM

There will be more and more of this kind of crap clogging our legal system the longer the dems/libs are allowed to side track from reality while they sneak their agendas through congress. Nothing to base the firing on, nothing legal anyway in a country that allows religious freedom (oh, forgot, we only give that to muslims, the Christians are even reprimanded for daring to say Merry Christmas).


You are absolutely right! In a small town in Northern Oklahoma a Walmart told their employees the could not say Merry Christmas. This was about 4 yrs ago. The outrage was huge, many of us contacted that Wal-Mart and they changed it to an employee can say it if they want, of not they don't. If you're going to ban one ban the rest of them. Christianity is under attack, it has been and it's getting worse. No if, ands or buts about it.

slaphead

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Fri 10/30/09 07:29 AM


There are many employers all having their own dress codes. If accessories and clothing are that big an issue to anyone when they are 'on the clock.' The solution is to just apply to those companies whose dress code allows your preference for attire. I think people take things out of perspective, I fail to see the harm in the rule that , apparently, the other employees dont have an issue following.


Glad to see someone finds it as cut and dry as I do.

If you don't like the rules, don't work there.




Exactly. :thumbsup:

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Fri 10/30/09 07:30 AM

There will be more and more of this kind of crap clogging our legal system the longer the dems/libs are allowed to side track from reality while they sneak their agendas through congress. Nothing to base the firing on, nothing legal anyway in a country that allows religious freedom (oh, forgot, we only give that to muslims, the Christians are even reprimanded for daring to say Merry Christmas).


What does this have to do with dems/libs? This has to do with company rules and the employee not following them.

franshade's photo
Fri 10/30/09 07:32 AM


There will be more and more of this kind of crap clogging our legal system the longer the dems/libs are allowed to side track from reality while they sneak their agendas through congress. Nothing to base the firing on, nothing legal anyway in a country that allows religious freedom (oh, forgot, we only give that to muslims, the Christians are even reprimanded for daring to say Merry Christmas).


You are absolutely right! In a small town in Northern Oklahoma a Walmart told their employees the could not say Merry Christmas. This was about 4 yrs ago. The outrage was huge, many of us contacted that Wal-Mart and they changed it to an employee can say it if they want, of not they don't. If you're going to ban one ban the rest of them. Christianity is under attack, it has been and it's getting worse. No if, ands or buts about it.

slaphead


I think Home Depot is under attack not christianity laugh

I happen to like Home Depot, very helpful, have all the items I need, offer classes, I am treated curteously, get great prices and also got the credit card laugh


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