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Let me put to you two imgages: The first is of a hispanic man, mid- to late 20's, 5'8" about 160#, low slung sagging blue jeans, white tank top undershirt, shaved head, tattoos on his face, neck, shoulders, back, arms, a couple of tear drop tattoos under his left eye. the second, another hispanic man, again mid to late 20's, 5'8", about 160#, wrangler blue jeans, western boots, polo shirt, cell phone on his belt, clean shaven, straw cowboy hat... there are two vehicles in the parking lot.. one is a chevy silverado step side, mud on the sides. the other is an early 80's monte carlo, withe the roman numeral XIV carved into the vinyl behind the side windows.. which car belongs to which man? I cannot pick because I don't know enough about either person. would it help you to know that one of the tattoos across the first gentleman's back read "Norteños".. that his elbows had spiderwebs tattooed on them.. another tattoo featured a prominent N and F.. ?? Nope because looks do not mean anything about people. I need to know them, talk to them, watch them, see about them, etc.... Your soooooo lying right now. No I am not. Don't impose your prejudices onto me. I'm not. But, your not being honest at the moment bc you knew where he was going with his story... Yes you are. And insulting me on top of that. |
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not sure if this is what you mean, but here is an example and you can tell me if it's what you are talking about I'm walking to my car, in a parking lot, and I see a guy that may look like a gang banger or something like that. yes I will be more aware. IMO it's part of what people are taught in self defense classes. I would be aware of any one but there are some that stick out more than others. is this right or wrong???? dunno. I know in my mind that people like Ted Bundy were the clean cut type, but I think in our society that we tend to look at others different in different situations. again...I'm not saying it's right though. and it doesn't necessarily have to be about race for me. it's anyone. I think we naturally get first impressions of people. In this case while you are watching the gangbanger the Ted Bundy type will have you in his car and gone. Criminals come in all shapes sizes colors backgrounds, etc... To assume will put you at a disadvantage. I did say I would be aware of anyone But one type was more "criminal" to you? Bad news for self protection. |
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when I was in the military and in a counter terrorism class. they emphasized over and over to look beyond appearances (I know THAT would suprise some of the anti govt people haha) and the example they used was, you're out in the woods and come across a group of teenagers and grownups dressed in para military uniforms and burning American flags. what do you do? and everyone said "kick their azzes" or some variation of that turns out that its the Boy Scouts and they are disposing of old flags in the preferred method 
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not sure if this is what you mean, but here is an example and you can tell me if it's what you are talking about I'm walking to my car, in a parking lot, and I see a guy that may look like a gang banger or something like that. yes I will be more aware. IMO it's part of what people are taught in self defense classes. I would be aware of any one but there are some that stick out more than others. is this right or wrong???? dunno. I know in my mind that people like Ted Bundy were the clean cut type, but I think in our society that we tend to look at others different in different situations. again...I'm not saying it's right though. and it doesn't necessarily have to be about race for me. it's anyone. I think we naturally get first impressions of people. In this case while you are watching the gangbanger the Ted Bundy type will have you in his car and gone. Criminals come in all shapes sizes colors backgrounds, etc... To assume will put you at a disadvantage. I did say I would be aware of anyone But one type was more "criminal" to you? Bad news for self protection. I, also, said it probably wasn't right. I'm being honest. I am also aware of everyone....women and children included. Please don't misinterrupt my post. I said how I feel and that is that. I didn't say I'm not aware of everyone |
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Let me put to you two imgages: The first is of a hispanic man, mid- to late 20's, 5'8" about 160#, low slung sagging blue jeans, white tank top undershirt, shaved head, tattoos on his face, neck, shoulders, back, arms, a couple of tear drop tattoos under his left eye. the second, another hispanic man, again mid to late 20's, 5'8", about 160#, wrangler blue jeans, western boots, polo shirt, cell phone on his belt, clean shaven, straw cowboy hat... there are two vehicles in the parking lot.. one is a chevy silverado step side, mud on the sides. the other is an early 80's monte carlo, withe the roman numeral XIV carved into the vinyl behind the side windows.. which car belongs to which man? I cannot pick because I don't know enough about either person. would it help you to know that one of the tattoos across the first gentleman's back read "Norteños".. that his elbows had spiderwebs tattooed on them.. another tattoo featured a prominent N and F.. ?? Nope because looks do not mean anything about people. I need to know them, talk to them, watch them, see about them, etc.... I feel the same way,I don't and never will judge pple by the cover. u know the saying don't judge a book by its cover? have you ever heard the phrase "if it walks like a duck" ?? That saying is talking about assuming and you know what they makes right? a-s-s of u and me. No, it's not.. It's about not overlooking the obvious.. Doctors have a similar expression: "When you hear hoof beats, think horses, not zebras" The only exception to that would be if you happen to be on the African savanna.. Moral? Be situationally aware.. if you noticed a car in the parking lott that has XIV or a XII emblems on them, chances are very good that Nuestra Familia or Mexican Mafia members are close by.. That's not to say that the man in the wranglers and cowboy hat isn't dangerous or can't and won't hurt you.. it's just not nearly as likely |
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Let me put to you two imgages: The first is of a hispanic man, mid- to late 20's, 5'8" about 160#, low slung sagging blue jeans, white tank top undershirt, shaved head, tattoos on his face, neck, shoulders, back, arms, a couple of tear drop tattoos under his left eye. the second, another hispanic man, again mid to late 20's, 5'8", about 160#, wrangler blue jeans, western boots, polo shirt, cell phone on his belt, clean shaven, straw cowboy hat... there are two vehicles in the parking lot.. one is a chevy silverado step side, mud on the sides. the other is an early 80's monte carlo, withe the roman numeral XIV carved into the vinyl behind the side windows.. which car belongs to which man? I cannot pick because I don't know enough about either person. would it help you to know that one of the tattoos across the first gentleman's back read "Norteños".. that his elbows had spiderwebs tattooed on them.. another tattoo featured a prominent N and F.. ?? Nope because looks do not mean anything about people. I need to know them, talk to them, watch them, see about them, etc.... I feel the same way,I don't and never will judge pple by the cover. u know the saying don't judge a book by its cover? have you ever heard the phrase "if it walks like a duck" ?? That saying is talking about assuming and you know what they makes right? a-s-s of u and me.  
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people profile a lot....if someone sees a girl dressed provocatively...then they get a first impression. it's not always accurate. there are many generalizations that people make in life
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Let me put to you two imgages: The first is of a hispanic man, mid- to late 20's, 5'8" about 160#, low slung sagging blue jeans, white tank top undershirt, shaved head, tattoos on his face, neck, shoulders, back, arms, a couple of tear drop tattoos under his left eye. the second, another hispanic man, again mid to late 20's, 5'8", about 160#, wrangler blue jeans, western boots, polo shirt, cell phone on his belt, clean shaven, straw cowboy hat... there are two vehicles in the parking lot.. one is a chevy silverado step side, mud on the sides. the other is an early 80's monte carlo, withe the roman numeral XIV carved into the vinyl behind the side windows.. which car belongs to which man? I cannot pick because I don't know enough about either person. would it help you to know that one of the tattoos across the first gentleman's back read "Norteños".. that his elbows had spiderwebs tattooed on them.. another tattoo featured a prominent N and F.. ?? Nope because looks do not mean anything about people. I need to know them, talk to them, watch them, see about them, etc.... Your soooooo lying right now. No I am not. Don't impose your prejudices onto me. I'm not. But, your not being honest at the moment bc you knew where he was going with his story... Yes you are. Then get tougher skin bc I'm not again. But, your not being honest here.Why would anybody in their right mind want to talk first to someone that the other person just described? You have to profile like Rose said bc it's awareness that we were always taught growing up. |
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not sure if this is what you mean, but here is an example and you can tell me if it's what you are talking about I'm walking to my car, in a parking lot, and I see a guy that may look like a gang banger or something like that. yes I will be more aware. IMO it's part of what people are taught in self defense classes. I would be aware of any one but there are some that stick out more than others. is this right or wrong???? dunno. I know in my mind that people like Ted Bundy were the clean cut type, but I think in our society that we tend to look at others different in different situations. again...I'm not saying it's right though. and it doesn't necessarily have to be about race for me. it's anyone. I think we naturally get first impressions of people. In this case while you are watching the gangbanger the Ted Bundy type will have you in his car and gone. Criminals come in all shapes sizes colors backgrounds, etc... To assume will put you at a disadvantage. I did say I would be aware of anyone But one type was more "criminal" to you? Bad news for self protection. I, also, said it probably wasn't right. I'm being honest. I am also aware of everyone....women and children included. Please don't misinterrupt my post. I said how I feel and that is that. I didn't say I'm not aware of everyone No misinterpretation involved. Women are harmed all the time because they stereotype who criminals are. Being aware in self defense classes shows us to be aware of ALL around us no matter of race, clothes, demeanor, etc.... |
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not sure if this is what you mean, but here is an example and you can tell me if it's what you are talking about I'm walking to my car, in a parking lot, and I see a guy that may look like a gang banger or something like that. yes I will be more aware. IMO it's part of what people are taught in self defense classes. I would be aware of any one but there are some that stick out more than others. is this right or wrong???? dunno. I know in my mind that people like Ted Bundy were the clean cut type, but I think in our society that we tend to look at others different in different situations. again...I'm not saying it's right though. and it doesn't necessarily have to be about race for me. it's anyone. I think we naturally get first impressions of people. In this case while you are watching the gangbanger the Ted Bundy type will have you in his car and gone. Criminals come in all shapes sizes colors backgrounds, etc... To assume will put you at a disadvantage. I did say I would be aware of anyone But one type was more "criminal" to you? Bad news for self protection. I, also, said it probably wasn't right. I'm being honest. I am also aware of everyone....women and children included. Please don't misinterrupt my post. I said how I feel and that is that. I didn't say I'm not aware of everyone No misinterpretation involved. Women are harmed all the time because they stereotype who criminals are. Being aware in self defense classes shows us to be aware of ALL around us no matter of race, clothes, demeanor, etc.... please don't you assume what I'm saying or thinking |
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Let me put to you two imgages: The first is of a hispanic man, mid- to late 20's, 5'8" about 160#, low slung sagging blue jeans, white tank top undershirt, shaved head, tattoos on his face, neck, shoulders, back, arms, a couple of tear drop tattoos under his left eye. the second, another hispanic man, again mid to late 20's, 5'8", about 160#, wrangler blue jeans, western boots, polo shirt, cell phone on his belt, clean shaven, straw cowboy hat... there are two vehicles in the parking lot.. one is a chevy silverado step side, mud on the sides. the other is an early 80's monte carlo, withe the roman numeral XIV carved into the vinyl behind the side windows.. which car belongs to which man? I cannot pick because I don't know enough about either person. would it help you to know that one of the tattoos across the first gentleman's back read "Norteños".. that his elbows had spiderwebs tattooed on them.. another tattoo featured a prominent N and F.. ?? Nope because looks do not mean anything about people. I need to know them, talk to them, watch them, see about them, etc.... I feel the same way,I don't and never will judge pple by the cover. u know the saying don't judge a book by its cover? have you ever heard the phrase "if it walks like a duck" ?? yes i have and just because i don't judge ppl by how they look,doesn't mean that I don't pay attention to my surounding. |
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Let me put to you two imgages: The first is of a hispanic man, mid- to late 20's, 5'8" about 160#, low slung sagging blue jeans, white tank top undershirt, shaved head, tattoos on his face, neck, shoulders, back, arms, a couple of tear drop tattoos under his left eye. the second, another hispanic man, again mid to late 20's, 5'8", about 160#, wrangler blue jeans, western boots, polo shirt, cell phone on his belt, clean shaven, straw cowboy hat... there are two vehicles in the parking lot.. one is a chevy silverado step side, mud on the sides. the other is an early 80's monte carlo, withe the roman numeral XIV carved into the vinyl behind the side windows.. which car belongs to which man? I cannot pick because I don't know enough about either person. would it help you to know that one of the tattoos across the first gentleman's back read "Norteños".. that his elbows had spiderwebs tattooed on them.. another tattoo featured a prominent N and F.. ?? Nope because looks do not mean anything about people. I need to know them, talk to them, watch them, see about them, etc.... I feel the same way,I don't and never will judge pple by the cover. u know the saying don't judge a book by its cover? have you ever heard the phrase "if it walks like a duck" ?? That saying is talking about assuming and you know what they makes right? a-s-s of u and me. No, it's not.. It's about not overlooking the obvious.. Doctors have a similar expression: "When you hear hoof beats, think horses, not zebras" The only exception to that would be if you happen to be on the African savanna.. Moral? Be situationally aware.. if you noticed a car in the parking lott that has XIV or a XII emblems on them, chances are very good that Nuestra Familia or Mexican Mafia members are close by.. That's not to say that the man in the wranglers and cowboy hat isn't dangerous or can't and won't hurt you.. it's just not nearly as likely So profiling is right in your eyes?? Profiling is wrong. I have met dangerous people who, if treated the same as everyone else, will not harm you. I have met meek individuals who are quiet and subdued because they are harboring the desire to harm others and themselves. We cannot tell by looking at people whether they want to harm us in all situations so it is a disadvantage to assume anything. You act as though you think I have lived a cushy life in surbanite with no exposure to the "bad" elements in life....lol You have no clue who I have been around or what I have survived. |
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not sure if this is what you mean, but here is an example and you can tell me if it's what you are talking about I'm walking to my car, in a parking lot, and I see a guy that may look like a gang banger or something like that. yes I will be more aware. IMO it's part of what people are taught in self defense classes. I would be aware of any one but there are some that stick out more than others. is this right or wrong???? dunno. I know in my mind that people like Ted Bundy were the clean cut type, but I think in our society that we tend to look at others different in different situations. again...I'm not saying it's right though. and it doesn't necessarily have to be about race for me. it's anyone. I think we naturally get first impressions of people. In this case while you are watching the gangbanger the Ted Bundy type will have you in his car and gone. Criminals come in all shapes sizes colors backgrounds, etc... To assume will put you at a disadvantage. I did say I would be aware of anyone But one type was more "criminal" to you? Bad news for self protection. I, also, said it probably wasn't right. I'm being honest. I am also aware of everyone....women and children included. Please don't misinterrupt my post. I said how I feel and that is that. I didn't say I'm not aware of everyone No misinterpretation involved. Women are harmed all the time because they stereotype who criminals are. Being aware in self defense classes shows us to be aware of ALL around us no matter of race, clothes, demeanor, etc.... please don't you assume what I'm saying or thinking I didn't so don't know what you are talking about. |
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not sure if this is what you mean, but here is an example and you can tell me if it's what you are talking about I'm walking to my car, in a parking lot, and I see a guy that may look like a gang banger or something like that. yes I will be more aware. IMO it's part of what people are taught in self defense classes. I would be aware of any one but there are some that stick out more than others. is this right or wrong???? dunno. I know in my mind that people like Ted Bundy were the clean cut type, but I think in our society that we tend to look at others different in different situations. again...I'm not saying it's right though. and it doesn't necessarily have to be about race for me. it's anyone. I think we naturally get first impressions of people. In this case while you are watching the gangbanger the Ted Bundy type will have you in his car and gone. Criminals come in all shapes sizes colors backgrounds, etc... To assume will put you at a disadvantage. I did say I would be aware of anyone But one type was more "criminal" to you? Bad news for self protection. I, also, said it probably wasn't right. I'm being honest. I am also aware of everyone....women and children included. Please don't misinterrupt my post. I said how I feel and that is that. I didn't say I'm not aware of everyone No misinterpretation involved. Women are harmed all the time because they stereotype who criminals are. Being aware in self defense classes shows us to be aware of ALL around us no matter of race, clothes, demeanor, etc.... please don't you assume what I'm saying or thinking I didn't so don't know what you are talking about. you assumed I didn't pay attention to the Ted Bundy type, even though I said I did. you assumed I think it's right....I in fact said it probably isn't. you assumed I even thought this guy (in a hypothetical situation) was a criminal...I didn't. I used the description to paint a picture of the look....not that he automatically was one. at least I'm being honest |
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I've seen people profiling people and groups of people by race, religion, gender, looks, everything. right or wrong...it happens
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not sure if this is what you mean, but here is an example and you can tell me if it's what you are talking about I'm walking to my car, in a parking lot, and I see a guy that may look like a gang banger or something like that. yes I will be more aware. IMO it's part of what people are taught in self defense classes. I would be aware of any one but there are some that stick out more than others. is this right or wrong???? dunno. I know in my mind that people like Ted Bundy were the clean cut type, but I think in our society that we tend to look at others different in different situations. again...I'm not saying it's right though. and it doesn't necessarily have to be about race for me. it's anyone. I think we naturally get first impressions of people. In this case while you are watching the gangbanger the Ted Bundy type will have you in his car and gone. Criminals come in all shapes sizes colors backgrounds, etc... To assume will put you at a disadvantage. I did say I would be aware of anyone But one type was more "criminal" to you? Bad news for self protection. I, also, said it probably wasn't right. I'm being honest. I am also aware of everyone....women and children included. Please don't misinterrupt my post. I said how I feel and that is that. I didn't say I'm not aware of everyone No misinterpretation involved. Women are harmed all the time because they stereotype who criminals are. Being aware in self defense classes shows us to be aware of ALL around us no matter of race, clothes, demeanor, etc.... please don't you assume what I'm saying or thinking I didn't so don't know what you are talking about. you assumed I didn't pay attention to the Ted Bundy type, even though I said I did. you assumed I think it's right....I in fact said it probably isn't. you assumed I even thought this guy (in a hypothetical situation) was a criminal...I didn't. I used the description to paint a picture of the look....not that he automatically was one. at least I'm being honest No assumptions made by me. You misinterpret or misread or something. If you read my posts I said it is a disadvantage to assume anything making no assumptions at all. I said women get hurt because of assumptions made and I said that in classes they tell us to be aware of all. None of that assumed anything about you or whatever. |
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just face it some ppl are racist.Being racist of anyone is just not right.
  
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not sure if this is what you mean, but here is an example and you can tell me if it's what you are talking about I'm walking to my car, in a parking lot, and I see a guy that may look like a gang banger or something like that. yes I will be more aware. IMO it's part of what people are taught in self defense classes. I would be aware of any one but there are some that stick out more than others. is this right or wrong???? dunno. I know in my mind that people like Ted Bundy were the clean cut type, but I think in our society that we tend to look at others different in different situations. again...I'm not saying it's right though. and it doesn't necessarily have to be about race for me. it's anyone. I think we naturally get first impressions of people. In this case while you are watching the gangbanger the Ted Bundy type will have you in his car and gone. Criminals come in all shapes sizes colors backgrounds, etc... To assume will put you at a disadvantage. I did say I would be aware of anyone But one type was more "criminal" to you? Bad news for self protection. I, also, said it probably wasn't right. I'm being honest. I am also aware of everyone....women and children included. Please don't misinterrupt my post. I said how I feel and that is that. I didn't say I'm not aware of everyone No misinterpretation involved. Women are harmed all the time because they stereotype who criminals are. Being aware in self defense classes shows us to be aware of ALL around us no matter of race, clothes, demeanor, etc.... please don't you assume what I'm saying or thinking I didn't so don't know what you are talking about. you assumed I didn't pay attention to the Ted Bundy type, even though I said I did. you assumed I think it's right....I in fact said it probably isn't. you assumed I even thought this guy (in a hypothetical situation) was a criminal...I didn't. I used the description to paint a picture of the look....not that he automatically was one. at least I'm being honest No assumptions made by me. You misinterpret or misread or something. If you read my posts I said it is a disadvantage to assume anything making no assumptions at all. I said women get hurt because of assumptions made and I said that in classes they tell us to be aware of all. None of that assumed anything about you or whatever. I also said that there are clean cut people that are bad. I was the one that mentioned Ted Bundy. you can change the gang banger look for a clown costume. he might be there after a bday party, there to just make people smile or the next Gacy....who knows but he would stick out in people's minds |
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there are people that think everyone from Texas is like JR Ewing or they are all this way or that way. If I went to some other state...they more than likely would have preconceived notions about what I should be
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there are people that think everyone from Texas is like JR Ewing or they are all this way or that way. If I went to some other state...they more than likely would have preconceived notions about what I should be Not making it right. People should not do it. It is wrong. |
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