If the Law is upheld, he will be deported. Making it Mexico's problem.

So....let's be mad at the people who pounded the crap out of him...

But forget the fact that he's an illegal immigrant who shouldn't have even been in this country in the first place??

Let's forget that a NON CITIZEN is gonna get paid MILLIONS thanks to our wonderful " justice " system.

I know that's not what you are saying, Winx.

But the fact that this story got NO media coverage at all says some terible things about this country and the media.

You cannot possibly think that they will deport him NOW, can you???

They haven't " upheld " the law on the several million who are here illegally in the first place. One that just one a few million bucks?? Not a chance.

Remember. The people with the money are the ones that can flout the law.

I'm not happy that an illegal was in our jails either. We were paying for that. He should be in jail in his country. No media coverage is not good either! I don't see how that is possible.

MSM covering stories about Illegals commiting crimes against Americans wouldn't shine a very favorable light on the Administration and just might flush the idea for Amnesty once and for all.

But can we tell another country to imprison someone in our country illegally that breaks OUR laws?????? I'm just asking what the legal basis for this would be

Deportation is dropping the Illegal off at the closest border crossing and not allowing him to come back.
If he can't walk on his own, the Mexican Consulate can arrange transportation from the border to Mexico.

true in this case but what about the illegals that commit crimes here that can walk back?

OH...and I forgot to add to those that think these people don't deserve a trial

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence. - Sixth Amendment - Rights of Accused in Criminal Prosecutions

as well as the fact that the victims deserve to see justice

Might not even be true, the link is invalid.

It is the same in the UK the system preotects and helps the crimminal and not the victim, it is true the lunatics have taken over the asylum Anna x

Might not even be true link doesn't work.

this is the link that willing got the story from

http://www.examiner.com/Subject-Orange_County.html

or here is another link

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/county-ramirez-eisenberg-2370202-chamberlain-jail

County to pay $4 million to settle jail-beating lawsuit
Illegal immigrant, accused of molestation, was left brain-damaged after inmates attacked him, his lawyer says.
By NORBERTO SANTANA JR. and TONY SAAVEDRA
The Orange County Register
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County officials have agreed to pay more than $4 million to settle a lawsuit brought by an undocumented Mexican immigrant who was beaten by inmates while in custody at the Orange County jail, the man's attorney said Monday.

The settlement appears to be the largest ever paid by Orange County for an in-custody incident involving county sheriffs, according to county officials and the man's lawyer.

Fernando Ramirez, then 21, was left brain-damaged by inmates in Module A at the Orange County Central Jail in June 2006. He was jailed after a 6-year-old girl told her mother a stranger touched her over her clothes on her private parts at El Salvador Park in Santa Ana. Ramirez was charged with child molestation but eventually pleaded guilty to the lesser charge of non-sexual battery, said his attorney, Mark Eisenberg.

But Eisenberg said the jail's classification of his client contributed to the attack because other prisoners became aware of the sexual assault allegation. Deputies in charge of monitoring the jail that night were elsewhere in the jail when the attack occurred, Eisenberg said.

The ensuing beating left Ramirez with the intellect of a 4-year-old child. He is unable to walk unassisted and will need help for the rest of his life, said Eisenberg.

County officials declined comment on the settlement. However, a spokesman did confirm that the next highest pay out for an in-custody incident was a $650,000 settlement paid in 2002 to the family of a man who died in 1998 after scuffling with deputies in the jail.

County supervisors gave their lawyers authorization to settle the lawsuit earlier this month in a closed session.

Eisenberg said a final settlement was approved Apr. 17 and described the amount as $3.75 million for Ramirez's family along with nearly $900,000 to cover all outstanding medical liens for medical care rendered while in custody.

The attack occurred months before another highly publicized inmate jail beating which resulted in the death of John Derek Chamberlain, who had been jailed on suspicion of possessing child pornography.

After The Orange County Register published an investigation of deputies' role in that case, a criminal grand jury probed the Chamberlain beating.

The grand jury described a culture among deputies of lax oversight of prisoners as well as a culture of cover-up regarding deputy actions. Two assistant sheriffs and seven deputies resigned during the fallout from the grand jury investigation.

The disclosures from the Chamberlain grand jury, as well as the 2007 federal indictment of former Sheriff Mike Carona on unrelated corruption charges, presented challenges for the county during a jury trial.

"The county was vigorously fighting any effort by Ramirez and his counsel to have anything introduced from Chamberlain," Eisenberg said, adding that he reviewed such motions during trial preparations.

"I think the grand jury report was influential," he said. "I also think the criminal conviction of Sheriff Carona, albeit on the limited count of witness tampering, was also influential."

"It was a chapter in the county's history that needed to be closed. And these two factors, Chamberlain and Carona, played a role," Eisenberg said. "It certainly influenced the powers that be to conclude that this case was one that should be settled."

Eisenberg said his side also had challenges facing a conservative jury pool in Orange County, because of Ramirez's immigration status and the nature of his arrest.

"Both sides had problems," he said.

For example, Chamberlain's family accepted a settlement of $600,000 in large part because of the potential impact on jurors due to the sexual nature of the allegations against him.

Eisenberg called the settlement "fair" noting that it will take care of Ramirez's medical needs for the rest of his life. He credited county officials for "stepping up and doing the fair and responsible thing."

While County Supervisor John Moorlach would not comment on the details of the Ramirez settlement, he did say that Sheriff Sandra Hutchens has turned around a lax culture within the jails.

His chief of staff, Mario Mainero, recently took a tour of the jails and said the infrastructure, staff and inmates showed a very different attitude since his first jail tour in the wake of the Chamberlain death.

Moorlach also said several changes – such as cameras, more visible and mobile guards and a full shuffling of top managers – has helped to begin changing the culture that contributed to the Chamberlain and Ramirez beatings.

"We're seeing management get involved," Moorlach said. "And what I'm getting as feedback is that we're seeing dramatic change."

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/county-ramirez-eisenberg-2370202-chamberlain-jail

If you read the whole story, the jail staff were negligent. They tend to turn their cheeks when it comes to this kind of violence.
Understand their logic but it is still not right.

But the fact that this story got NO media coverage at all says some terible things about this country and the media.

Not even. I really don't see the big deal. Do you realize how many law suits are settled everyday? Do you realize they cover all kinds of humanity?

Not even a big deal, really.

This whole thing kinda stinks either way. I agree with the notion that if he was illegal why they kept him in a US prison, the whole thing could have been avoided if he was handed back to Mexico after found guilty in 2 charges : being an illegal + non-sexual battery.

No inmates beating him up + No brain injury + no settlements to pay.

I just don't know how this whole thing connected to Obama???

If you are guilty of a crime here, you pay here. If you are guilty of a crime in Mexico, you pay in Mexico.

I would guess the award wasn't given based on the result of an actual lawsuit by a judge, but to avoid an actual lawsuit altogether outside of court. Civil lawsuits aren't based on hard law so much as criminal charges are. Would just have to convince a judge that the lawsuit isn't completely frivolous and have a family member of the now mentally debilitated immigrant to testify to the damages it has caused the family. And as it is basically illegal for our prison systems to allow prisoners to be beaten/killed by other inmates... I doubt it would have been difficult for lawyers to find a judge that would accept the lawsuit.

What I don't get is, what kind of a jail is this, where the inmates can beat each other to almost to death.