Topic: Youth unemployment reaches post-WWII high
Giocamo's photo
Mon 09/28/09 09:56 AM


52% unemployment...a combination of adults taking any job they can find, and of course the minimum wage...which Republicans know...actually hurts...the very segment of society it's created to benefit...the young skulls full of mush...lol

The unemployment rate in August was 9.7%.


http://www.bls.gov/eag/eag.us.htm



it's 52% amongst teens...the actual true unemployment is 16.5%...if you count those who have exhausted there unemployment benefits and are no longer searching for work...

willing2's photo
Mon 09/28/09 10:02 AM



Obama hates American workers.laugh slaphead

Tell me what Hussein has done to get the Illegals deported and Americans into those jobs??


I already told you - Saddam Hussein is dead.

I was refering to Butcrack Hussein Obummer.
No answer for the question.
You know as well as I,he is the Corp-orations Bltch, bought and paid for.

Winx's photo
Mon 09/28/09 10:03 AM



52% unemployment...a combination of adults taking any job they can find, and of course the minimum wage...which Republicans know...actually hurts...the very segment of society it's created to benefit...the young skulls full of mush...lol

The unemployment rate in August was 9.7%.


http://www.bls.gov/eag/eag.us.htm



it's 52% amongst teens...the actual true unemployment is 16.5%...if you count those who have exhausted there unemployment benefits and are no longer searching for work...


I found this amount for unemployed teens: The U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics - Unemployment for 16-to-19-year-olds hit 21.7% in March.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/2009-05-05-teens-job-market-unemployed-adults_N.htm

My heart isn't breaking if high school kids can't find jobs. Their priority should be school.

Winx's photo
Mon 09/28/09 10:04 AM
Edited by Winx on Mon 09/28/09 10:05 AM




Obama hates American workers.laugh slaphead

Tell me what Hussein has done to get the Illegals deported and Americans into those jobs??


I already told you - Saddam Hussein is dead.

I was refering to Butcrack Hussein Obummer.
No answer for the question.
You know as well as I,he is the Corp-orations Bltch, bought and paid for.


I'm a lady. Do you have to talk that way to me, Willing?


heavenlyboy34's photo
Mon 09/28/09 10:06 AM




Obama hates American workers.laugh slaphead

Tell me what Hussein has done to get the Illegals deported and Americans into those jobs??


I already told you - Saddam Hussein is dead.

I was refering to Butcrack Hussein Obummer.
No answer for the question.
You know as well as I,he is the Corp-orations Bltch, bought and paid for.


I agree, but almost every president has been the same way.frustrated sad brokenheart rant

Giocamo's photo
Mon 09/28/09 10:07 AM




52% unemployment...a combination of adults taking any job they can find, and of course the minimum wage...which Republicans know...actually hurts...the very segment of society it's created to benefit...the young skulls full of mush...lol

The unemployment rate in August was 9.7%.


http://www.bls.gov/eag/eag.us.htm



it's 52% amongst teens...the actual true unemployment is 16.5%...if you count those who have exhausted there unemployment benefits and are no longer searching for work...


I found this amount for unemployed teens: The U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics - Unemployment for 16-to-19-year-olds hit 21.7% in March.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/2009-05-05-teens-job-market-unemployed-adults_N.htm

My heart isn't breaking if high school kids can't find jobs. Their priority should be school.


here's the first paragraph from this post...

The unemployment rate for young Americans has exploded to 52.2 percent -- a post-World War II high, according to the Labor Dept. -- meaning millions of Americans are staring at the likelihood that their lifetime earning potential will be diminished and, combined with the predicted slow economic recovery, their transition into productive members of society could be put on hold for an extended period of time.

willing2's photo
Mon 09/28/09 10:12 AM





52% unemployment...a combination of adults taking any job they can find, and of course the minimum wage...which Republicans know...actually hurts...the very segment of society it's created to benefit...the young skulls full of mush...lol

The unemployment rate in August was 9.7%.


http://www.bls.gov/eag/eag.us.htm



it's 52% amongst teens...the actual true unemployment is 16.5%...if you count those who have exhausted there unemployment benefits and are no longer searching for work...


I found this amount for unemployed teens: The U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics - Unemployment for 16-to-19-year-olds hit 21.7% in March.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/2009-05-05-teens-job-market-unemployed-adults_N.htm

My heart isn't breaking if high school kids can't find jobs. Their priority should be school.


here's the first paragraph from this post...

The unemployment rate for young Americans has exploded to 52.2 percent -- a post-World War II high, according to the Labor Dept. -- meaning millions of Americans are staring at the likelihood that their lifetime earning potential will be diminished and, combined with the predicted slow economic recovery, their transition into productive members of society could be put on hold for an extended period of time.


However long that extended period of time is, there are many, many Anarchist, drug dealin', prostitute pimpin', money making Gangs out there just lookin' to recruit fresh blood. Their numbers grow every day with those youngsters who see no hope of getting by or achieving the American dream.

daniel48706's photo
Mon 09/28/09 10:14 AM
Now, what about the "American citizens" general attitude towards minimum wage jobs? They refuse to work them because 1) they only pay minimum wage, 2) they don't carry any health benfits and 3) they might have to work two different jobs, 20 hours per week in order to make enough to live on (note I dont say enough to live at the level of comfort they wantt o live at).

Our younger citizens are, generally speaking, lazy, unmotivated, greedy and selfish. I am sorry, but that is how it is. And the business man isn't much better, if at all; after all he is the one hiring the illegals and paying LESS than minimum wage.

We could get rid of every last illegal alien in the country and open up one million jobs (exagerated number folks), and we would still have the same problem of young adults being jobless. Because the businesses would pack up and go elsewhere instead of paying minimum wage, and our young adults would still refuse to flip burgers.

Our country needs to grow up, and start being accountable for it's own actions and inactions.











What do you propose to do with those kids who can't afford further education, their family needs the income, drop-outs or the ones who cannot excell in school.
Euthanasia?





Exactly! The dropouts and uneducated can do the jobs that illegal aliens are supposedly "needed" for till they have enough experience to move on.


whoa they can do whatever they want...lack of education does not mean a life doomed to grunt work. I'm seeing many friends with degree's losing their jobs as of late, no guarantee's anymore.


That's exactly why we need th Illegals removed. To open up jobs for Americans.
Hussein hates American workers. If he deidn't, he'd order the borders secured and deport the Illegals. DHS knows where they work and live.


daniel48706's photo
Mon 09/28/09 10:16 AM
Edited by daniel48706 on Mon 09/28/09 10:16 AM
sorry worong quote

daniel48706's photo
Mon 09/28/09 10:21 AM
If yuo would get off the attack, open your eyes and read what I write, and what others write, you would see I was speaking generally; Is specifically stated not all young adults live off the system. And if yours is one that is a model citizen then I applaud him AND YOU (for raising a model citizen).

BUT this attitude that the military is wrong, and that it is wrong for our childrent og o into the miilitary is nothing but pur and utter hogwash. The military, generally speaking, is one of the best things a young adult can do after highschool. Again I emphasize ONE of the best things. Each person is differnet, yes. and if they dont want the military as a choice, then they need to do whatever other option they have available.

DO NOT SIT THERE, AND STATE THAT IT IS OK FOR A PERSON TO SCRREW UP ALL HIS CHANCES AND THEN GET TICKED OFF BECAUSE HE HAS ONLY ONE OPTION LEFT. That is why we have a problem with our children, AGAIN IN GENERAL, being so lazy and unwilling to work. They have been raised this way.




Don't try mincing owrds with me hun :smile: You speak of the constitution giving choice to the individuals on whether to go into the army or not. Well they do not lose that choice by being put into the army (again I use army generically) if they drop out.

A person knows that if yo put your hand into a fire you are going to get burned; some idiots still put their hands into fires. If a high school student KNOWS that they are going to be put into the military if they drop out, then they are making the choice to go in by dropping out.

Let's say you have a job that the rules of said job state very clearly no smoking on company property. You decide you HAVE to have a ciggarette and sneak one in the bathroom. Your caught and fired. Who's fault is it? Did you not have a choice in maintaining your job?

So please do not tell me that it is removing a choice by saying you are required to enlist if you drop out of high school. You do not lose a single choice, you simply gain a more effective consequence (in my opinion).

And to answer another gentleman's question real fast about whats wrong with being a dropout, his friend is one and owns his own demolition company. More likely than not, your friend would have excelled in the military due to the high levels of self restraint and self motivation, not to mention self-discipline, etc that he obviously has. I am not saying that high school drop outs are bad people or should be punished. I don't consider the military to be a punishment.


But, I am sure you will agree that your friend is a bad example of the normal results of dropping out of highschool, and I am willing to lay money that your friend agrees with this.

now, I have a different question for everyone: what is better, let a student drop out, and live off the system for the rest of their lives (generally speaking), or give them a direct consequence to their actions that HELPS THEM become a functioning member of society?







What do you propose to do with those kids who can't afford further education, their family needs the income, drop-outs or the ones who cannot excell in school.
Euthanasia?



As far as drops outs are concerned, in my opinion if you drop out of highschool you should automatically be enlisted in the army as a grunt. Physical labor. (or another branch of service not just the army). Teach these drops outs self discipine and motivation. but I also want to see major revamps of the military, which would go further to help said drop outs (I will repost about that one of these days).



oh gawd....you speak of the constitution, of individual rights and then say something like this.. not everyone wants to proudly march off and kill or be killed. Even drop outs get that choice.. there are many physical labor jobs they can do if you feel so strongly they need top be punished.



Don't call me hun..my friends call me hun.rant

Push your own children into a war zone..the rest of them are not your business. My oldest son dropped out and went back and finished. He is NOT living off the system..in fact he helps me. So your judgments on others children are very harsh. Worry about your own...

daniel48706's photo
Mon 09/28/09 10:25 AM
Thisis the quote I was looking for. This ops attitude, and a lot of other so-called adults int his forum, doesnot help anything at all and does nothing except to incite confusion, disagreement, and allt he way down to dissension.

We are all adults here so let's grow up and STOP the blasted name calling. Otherwise you will get absolutely NO sympathy from me or any other reasonable American citizen cause you cant even act with the respect that you demand to be given to yourself.




Obama hates American workers.laugh slaphead

Tell me what Hussein has done to get the Illegals deported and Americans into those jobs??

daniel48706's photo
Mon 09/28/09 10:25 AM
Thank you winx




Obama hates American workers.laugh slaphead

Tell me what Hussein has done to get the Illegals deported and Americans into those jobs??


I already told you - Saddam Hussein is dead.

daniel48706's photo
Mon 09/28/09 10:27 AM
Generally speaking Teenagers do not have a need to be in the work force. They need to go home and open up the jobs for the adults who have families to care for.





52% unemployment...a combination of adults taking any job they can find, and of course the minimum wage...which Republicans know...actually hurts...the very segment of society it's created to benefit...the young skulls full of mush...lol

The unemployment rate in August was 9.7%.


http://www.bls.gov/eag/eag.us.htm



it's 52% amongst teens...the actual true unemployment is 16.5%...if you count those who have exhausted there unemployment benefits and are no longer searching for work...

franshade's photo
Mon 09/28/09 10:31 AM


Obama hates American workers.laugh slaphead

Tell me what Hussein has done to get the Illegals deported and Americans into those jobs??


laugh

Never fails, get rid of the illegals, the illegals this, the illegals that, I find it amusing. Illegals do the jobs that others dont want to do.

Stop being self righteous
stop waiting for things to get handed to you
stop thinking you are entitled
stop thinking because want it you should have it

Stop the B.S., make yourself marketable, stop sitting idly and whine about this person taking your job, making up excuses about McDonalds not hiring, about not being able to GET experience... Be responsible people... stop blaming others...

Here's a hint, enforce the laws of the big corporations, the companies that hire these illegals, you are so fond of. But wait why??? After all these are Americans living the great dream of free enterprise... laugh
flowerforyou

franshade's photo
Mon 09/28/09 10:33 AM

Generally speaking Teenagers do not have a need to be in the work force. They need to go home and open up the jobs for the adults who have families to care for.



I can understand this way of thinking but don't agree with it.

Who is to say, who should work, where they should work, and if they should work?

As for opening jobs for the adults, here's just my view, there was a job opening this teeanger got it, why should he have to relinquish it? The adult obviously didn't go for it.


daniel48706's photo
Mon 09/28/09 10:35 AM
well put Fran





Obama hates American workers.laugh slaphead

Tell me what Hussein has done to get the Illegals deported and Americans into those jobs??


laugh

Never fails, get rid of the illegals, the illegals this, the illegals that, I find it amusing. Illegals do the jobs that others dont want to do.

Stop being self righteous
stop waiting for things to get handed to you
stop thinking you are entitled
stop thinking because want it you should have it

Stop the B.S., make yourself marketable, stop sitting idly and whine about this person taking your job, making up excuses about McDonalds not hiring, about not being able to GET experience... Be responsible people... stop blaming others...

Here's a hint, enforce the laws of the big corporations, the companies that hire these illegals, you are so fond of. But wait why??? After all these are Americans living the great dream of free enterprise... laugh
flowerforyou

heavenlyboy34's photo
Mon 09/28/09 10:36 AM



Obama hates American workers.laugh slaphead

Tell me what Hussein has done to get the Illegals deported and Americans into those jobs??


laugh

Never fails, get rid of the illegals, the illegals this, the illegals that, I find it amusing. Illegals do the jobs that others dont want to do.

Stop being self righteous
stop waiting for things to get handed to you
stop thinking you are entitled
stop thinking because want it you should have it

Stop the B.S., make yourself marketable, stop sitting idly and whine about this person taking your job, making up excuses about McDonalds not hiring, about not being able to GET experience... Be responsible people... stop blaming others...

Here's a hint, enforce the laws of the big corporations, the companies that hire these illegals, you are so fond of. But wait why??? After all these are Americans living the great dream of free enterprise... laugh
flowerforyou


Partly true. That's only because wages are held artificially low by the FED and the government. If hard labor jobs paid what they are actually worth, legals would do those jobs. It sounds like you are the one who wants "handouts". There's no reason to think that Americans are "living the great dream of free enterprise", as that dream has been regulated, inflated, and taxed almost entirely out of existence.

If Americans had stuck with the Constitutional limits on the Federal government, we wouldn't be arguing now. Atlas is shrugging indeed.

daniel48706's photo
Mon 09/28/09 10:40 AM
again it boils down to attitude of the adult who didn't go for the job, and in many cases of fast food resteraunts, it is the case of the employer being known to hire teens over adults. And I am sorry whoever I upset with that statement, I have seen it happen way too many times (and no not to myself).

A lot of our young adults have been raised with the attitude you mentioned a moment ago, expecting to have everything handed to them immediately. They do not want to start at the bottom and work their way up. Their families have all this money and all this prestige so they feel they should automatically have it also.

And as I mentioned in earlier posts, if the teen is working because he is helping to support his (or her) family, that is an entire different case. I worked full time in high school in order to pay for me and my brothers school supplies, and clothing for school, and anything left over went towards groceries and bills. I also had the temerity to stay in school no matter what and finish through.



Generally speaking Teenagers do not have a need to be in the work force. They need to go home and open up the jobs for the adults who have families to care for.



I can understand this way of thinking but don't agree with it.

Who is to say, who should work, where they should work, and if they should work?

As for opening jobs for the adults, here's just my view, there was a job opening this teeanger got it, why should he have to relinquish it? The adult obviously didn't go for it.



willing2's photo
Mon 09/28/09 10:41 AM



Obama hates American workers.laugh slaphead

Tell me what Hussein has done to get the Illegals deported and Americans into those jobs??


laugh

Never fails, get rid of the illegals, the illegals this, the illegals that, I find it amusing. Illegals do the jobs that others dont want to do.

Stop being self righteous
stop waiting for things to get handed to you
stop thinking you are entitled
stop thinking because want it you should have it

Stop the B.S., make yourself marketable, stop sitting idly and whine about this person taking your job, making up excuses about McDonalds not hiring, about not being able to GET experience... Be responsible people... stop blaming others...

Here's a hint, enforce the laws of the big corporations, the companies that hire these illegals, you are so fond of. But wait why??? After all these are Americans living the great dream of free enterprise... laugh
flowerforyou

By not enforcing Immigration Law, everyone from Hussein on down the chain who is supposed to be enforcing is breaking the Law.
By not enforcing this Law, tells me that any Law can be overlooked and not enforced.

franshade's photo
Mon 09/28/09 10:42 AM

Partly true. That's only because wages are held artificially low by the FED and the government. If hard labor jobs paid what they are actually worth, legals would do those jobs. It sounds like you are the one who wants "handouts". There's no reason to think that Americans are "living the great dream of free enterprise", as that dream has been regulated, inflated, and taxed almost entirely out of existence.

If Americans had stuck with the Constitutional limits on the Federal government, we wouldn't be arguing now. Atlas is shrugging indeed.


This is so wrong.

Take your pride aside, if you had to feed yourself and the only job available was to hold your arms out while holding 2 pails of water, guess what, you would hold your arms out and get paid.

But all this self righteousness, this air about entitlement, the ones who sit back and say I will not work for $5.00 an hour, will refuse a job and have the gall to complain when someone who has no pride, has a need takes that job to take care of themselves and/or their families.

*I am glad to say I need for nothing, I bust my ***, I get mine, I am not sitting idly, so you can keep your handout, save it, it may come in handytongue2 for I have no need it* But thanks for caring laugh