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in my day teacher's would hit you with ruler's and spank you ! and the parent's was all for it !
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yep..it's not good.. People say their parents hit them and they are just fine..have no idea why their life isn't going well.. hummm, much damage that most aren't even aware of. ITs an interesting study indeed. However, I think everything is about balance. I was spanked for certain offenses and I was rewarded for others. I am fine as are the other adults I know who were spanked as children. If you are having to spank a child often and into their older years, of course it isnt working. My last spanking was probably at about age 7 and I had maybe four that I can even remember. I was always told in advance what behaviors would have spanking as consequence and It was always reiterated to me the importance of making good CHOICES. As a result, I have grown up not to dwell about things that happen to me but to take responsibility for the choices I made which led me there. I think it is kind of common sense that spanking is not right for every child, I just wish it was as common that for some,,,it is. discipline is not a one size fits all. |
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in my day teacher's would hit you with ruler's and spank you ! and the parent's was all for it ! Not mine..my dad raised hell with the teachers if they wacked us..he wanted to do it himself... 
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I was never spanked as a child and I will never spank my future children either. It is completely unnecessary. A stern voice is more intimidating than a hand I believe.
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Is there any way that she can get a different teacher? I have no idea, but you can bet I will be looking closely at this situation to see what is really going on here. I'm REALLY grateful you posted this here tonight. Everything happens for a reason.  Yes, everything happens for a reason.  I hope it works out at the parent-teacher meeting. It bothers me that the teacher was holding your child's hand like that and acting that way in front of her. I think that's traumatic for a little one. 
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Yes, everything happens for a reason. I hope it works out at the parent-teacher meeting. It bothers me that the teacher was holding your child's hand like that and acting that way in front of her. I think that's traumatic for a little one. It REALLY bothered me that she was holding her hand like that. I'll be dealing it with a little better now.  Winx.
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in my day teacher's would hit you with ruler's and spank you ! and the parent's was all for it ! Yeah, thats called old school. Perhaps the adults were more responsbible because they certainly stuck together when a child acted out.If I got in trouble at an aunty or uncles, u can be sure it wouldnt be over until I got home to my mom and dad. |
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Yes, everything happens for a reason. I hope it works out at the parent-teacher meeting. It bothers me that the teacher was holding your child's hand like that and acting that way in front of her. I think that's traumatic for a little one. It REALLY bothered me that she was holding her hand like that. I'll be dealing it with a little better now. Winx. You were probably stunned when it happened. Good luck with the meeting.
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My parents spanked me, and I came out fine
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This gives whole new meaning to the phrase "smart a$$"
So, if a set of buttcheeks is struck, the brain is diminished... what BS.... Is that why God had the scripture writer write "He who spareth the rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him correcteth him betimes" (Proverbs 13:24) and "Withhold not correction from a child: for if thou strike him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and deliver his soul from hell." (Proverbs 23:13-14) |
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This gives whole new meaning to the phrase "smart a$$" So, if a set of buttcheeks is struck, the brain is diminished... what BS.... Is that why God had the scripture writer write "He who spareth the rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him correcteth him betimes" (Proverbs 13:24) and "Withhold not correction from a child: for if thou strike him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and deliver his soul from hell." (Proverbs 23:13-14) Not everyone lives by that book...so your scriptures would mean nothing .. |
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Edited by
TelephoneMan
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Fri 09/25/09 02:41 AM
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and... I just noticed that the study they did only tested this on 1,510 kids. And that the kids were all from Maryland...
now divide 1,510 by the 300 MILLION who live in the U.S. What percent of the U.S. population is that? And... now divide 1,510 by the 6 BILLION humans who inhabit this planet ... what percentage is THAT of the total world population. Their data is severely skewed in favor of what they were trying to prove, that popping a kid on the butt isn't good for them... they call that BIAS in professional research. Now let's see a research study on the percentage proportional increase in teenage drug use, crime and gang violence since this ridiculous "no corporal punishment" crap has been implemented in the U.S. And let's compare that to other countries where they still use corporal punishment. |
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This gives whole new meaning to the phrase "smart a$$" So, if a set of buttcheeks is struck, the brain is diminished... what BS.... Is that why God had the scripture writer write "He who spareth the rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him correcteth him betimes" (Proverbs 13:24) and "Withhold not correction from a child: for if thou strike him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and deliver his soul from hell." (Proverbs 23:13-14) It's called expanding our knowledge base. We know now things people didn't know then. And, since not everyone is a Christian, this doesn't pertain to more than 50% of the people in the world. And since many people believe that the bible is just a set of fairy tales used to control others, it's no wonder that violence against others is so widely advocated there. And yes, spanking your children is using violence against a fellow human being. Contrary to belief, children are people too. |
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Hitting is never necessary..hitting a child is not "good".
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Yes, but expanding one's knowledge base with skewed, biased research does no one any good, including the children.
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Edited by
TelephoneMan
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Fri 09/25/09 02:47 AM
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Hitting is never necessary..hitting a child is not "good". Then we should outlaw Ice Hockey... because hitting is never necessary... force the world top play soccer instead... yeah, that's it... Better yet... why not just throw the kid a X-Box controller at age 4 and watch him become a vegetable video game addict? |
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and... I just noticed that the study they did only tested this on 1,510 kids. And that the kids were all from Maryland... now divide 1,510 by the 300 MILLION who live in the U.S. What percent of the U.S. population is that? And... now divide 1,510 by the 6 BILLION humans who inhabit this planet ... what percentage is THAT of the total world population. Their data is severely skewed in favor of what they were trying to prove, that popping a kid on the butt isn't good for them... they call that BIAS in professional research. Now let's see a research study on the percentage proportional increase in teenage drug use, crime and gang violence since this ridiculous "no corporal punishment" crap has been implemented in the U.S. And let's compare that to other countries where they still use corporal punishment. By your logic, all research is severely skewed as there is no research study used where every single person from a set of people can possibly be researched. What you do (and what is done) is extrapolate answers based on the majority of responses. As for the rest of your answer, I'd hazard a guess that there is a far higher increase in your examples above but I'd also hazard a guess that the reasons for such are far more complex than using or not using corporal punishment. |
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Hitting is never necessary..hitting a child is not "good". Then we should outlaw Ice Hockey... yeah, great comparison... teaching kids good sportsman ship and some one who says they love them..a parent, hits them. Oh my..  |
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I've been having problems with my 5 (almost 6) year old daughter. Her teacher was very angry or frustrated when I picked her up at school on Tuesday and gave me an earful. My daughter has had problems on and off with hitting for a couple of years. But, it stopped after about 3 months in Kindergarten. She also doesn't listen very well and is easily distracted. She's very "out of it" a lot. Her Kindergarten teacher seemed to do really well with her last year. Maybe I'll go back to her and ask her what she was doing that seemed to work so well. I spanked my son when he was little. He is 14 now. I have used spanking on my girls, but with all the information I hear on it, I worry that it's not a good thing. I also think by the time they are 6, spanking should not be used anyway. Don't ask me where I got that notion. Probably from my own upbringing. My sisters and I were spanked. Frequently and enthusiastically. My other daughter and son have never had any problems in school. The teacher shouldn't have taken that out on you, Ruth. I hope that your child didn't overhear the teacher talking to you about her. I hope your daughter is just going through a phase. IMO, the teacher handled that pretty inappropriately. Not that she didn't have cause for concern and frustration but that conversation should have been held privately. If it were me, I would most certainly have a conversation with both her and the principal. Also, you may want to consider having your daughter tested for learning disabilities. My son's started exhibiting themselves about the same age. Turned out, he is LD in math and writing and this was causing him an extreme amount of frustration, which he would act out in class. While he was not a hitter, there were other issues. Once his LD's started being addressed, his behavior improved DRAMATICALLY. Most kid's learning issues start manifesting themselves about 1st or 2nd grade. The longer you wait to address it, the worse the problem gets.
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yeah, great comparison... teaching kids good sportsman ship and some one who says they love them..a parent, hits them. Oh my.. Seriously, right? And my goodness, what if we ALL walked around hitting each other because we don't like what someone did or said? That would certainly make the world a better place, right? Matter of fact, I disagree with people (or vice versa) every day, I'm just going to start popping everyone on the butt when that happens. I can beat everyone into submission and rule the world. 
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