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If you watch any news channel, you might hear the term 'welfare state' referred to the US.
I am just curious, if you really know what it means! (No googling please!) I will post after some discussion what it is. |
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If you watch any news channel, you might hear the term 'welfare state' referred to the US. I am just curious, if you really know what it means! (No googling please!) I will post after some discussion what it is. I think it means the underclass...that is and has been for generations...soley depenedent upon...the government as it's provider... |
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If you watch any news channel, you might hear the term 'welfare state' referred to the US. I am just curious, if you really know what it means! (No googling please!) I will post after some discussion what it is. I think it means the underclass...that is and has been for generations...soley depenedent upon...the government as it's provider... So, you think it's the group of individuals that receive resources from the government such as cash assistance, food stamps and housing subsidies? Okay... that's one idea... anyone else? Agree? Disagree? |
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If you watch any news channel, you might hear the term 'welfare state' referred to the US. I am just curious, if you really know what it means! (No googling please!) I will post after some discussion what it is. Briefly, "the Welfare State" refers to a system of welfare controlled by the State (the national government). the segment of the population on welfare is effectively controlled financially by government dictates and rules. This makes welfare recipients quasi-wards of the State, and essentially a country-within-a-country. Hopefully, others will have time to get into more detail for you. Ciao, Matvei. |
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Hi Tanya
I think it's the paridigm consisting of those who don't or can't be responsible for their own basic needs having those needs met by taxpayer money, no ? |
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If you watch any news channel, you might hear the term 'welfare state' referred to the US. I am just curious, if you really know what it means! (No googling please!) I will post after some discussion what it is. Briefly, "the Welfare State" refers to a system of welfare controlled by the State (the national government). the segment of the population on welfare is effectively controlled financially by government dictates and rules. This makes welfare recipients quasi-wards of the State, and essentially a country-within-a-country. Hopefully, others will have time to get into more detail for you. Ciao, Matvei. I already know very well what the welfare state is.... just wanting to know what forum opinion is on it. I will make clarifications and post details after more people way in. |
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Hi Tanya I think it's the paridigm consisting of those who don't or can't be responsible for their own basic needs having those needs met by taxpayer money, no ? That may be part of it... I will post more after people weigh in! |
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If you watch any news channel, you might hear the term 'welfare state' referred to the US. I am just curious, if you really know what it means! (No googling please!) I will post after some discussion what it is. I think it means the underclass...that is and has been for generations...soley depenedent upon...the government as it's provider... So, you think it's the group of individuals that receive resources from the government such as cash assistance, food stamps and housing subsidies? Okay... that's one idea... anyone else? Agree? Disagree? Disagree |
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I don't it is referring to actual "welfare" in the sense we know it or have heard of it..
It's more like the well-being, the welfare and well being of people. |
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they meant me! :)
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they meant me! :) That could possibly be true! Dragoness, do you can to comment or waiting for me to? |
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It's what BHO is bring the common folks to. Every day, mo' of us is gettin' added to the welfare roles. Social Services gets federal bonuses for adding caseloads.
His plan can be supported by adding more taxation on the middle class and rich. Please, hurry. We need yo' money. |
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I don't it is referring to actual "welfare" in the sense we know it or have heard of it.. It's more like the well-being, the welfare and well being of people. You are on the right track! In some aspects. |
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Edited by
Dragoness
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Fri 09/18/09 05:17 PM
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Although a lot of different meanings are thrown around the welfare state actually referres to the government's role in caring for all of the citizens in this country.
References to this information include: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare_state http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-welfare-state.htm The welfare state provides education, housing, sustenance, healthcare, pensions, unemployment insurance, sick leave or time off due to injury, supplemental income in some cases, and equal wages through price and wage controls. It also provides for public transportation, childcare, social amenities such as public parks and libraries, as well as many other goods and services. Some of these items are paid for via government insurance programs while others are paid for by taxes. Most advanced nations are not true welfare states, although many provide at least some social services or entitlement programs. These goods and services are generally available only to certain people who meet eligibility requirements. However, those that meet the prerequisites are guaranteed -or entitled to- benefits as a right. This type of system is frequently referred to as a “safety net,” which is designed to help the most vulnerable. The welfare state is socialist in nature. It redistributes wealth by heavily taxing the middle and upper classes in order to provide goods and services for those seen as underprivileged. However, even countries that don’t typically subscribe to socialism offer at least some form of safety net, most of which continue to expand. One example is the United States, which according to many European countries, is found lacking when it comes to altruism in government. The truth is that the welfare state on a federal level is the antithesis of personal liberty, at least according to the U.S. Constitution, which enumerates specific powers granted to the federal government. The Tenth Amendment grants all other powers to the states, “or to the people.” This means that individual states should be in charge of their own welfare programs, rather than the central government. While some nations believe that creating a welfare state is the proper role of any central government, few have managed to create efficient systems. They are unable to provide equitably for all their citizens, often leaving those most in need with the least. Rationing of goods and services also becomes a major problem when too many people depend on the welfare state. All advanced societies view helping people who literally cannot help themselves as decent, humane, and necessary. Yet, another serious issue with the welfare state philosophy is that many people who are capable of caring for themselves have no motivation to improve their lives when they can depend on the government to provide for them. This often breeds resentment amongst those who do work when they are forced to pay for people who do not, via ever-increasing taxes. Such a system can fuel class warfare and prevent equality instead of obtaining it. The concept of the welfare state may appear to be a good model on paper. However, the reality of creating a truly equitable state has thus far been impossible to achieve. |
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dragoness, No google!
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Although a lot of different meanings are thrown around the welfare state actually referres to the government's role in caring for all of the citizens in this country. References to this information include: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare_state http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-welfare-state.htm The welfare state provides education, housing, sustenance, healthcare, pensions, unemployment insurance, sick leave or time off due to injury, supplemental income in some cases, and equal wages through price and wage controls. It also provides for public transportation, childcare, social amenities such as public parks and libraries, as well as many other goods and services. Some of these items are paid for via government insurance programs while others are paid for by taxes. Most advanced nations are not true welfarewelfarewelfare states, although many provide at least some social services or entitlement programs. These goods and services are generally available only to certain people who meet eligibility requirements. However, those that meet the prerequisites are guaranteed -or entitled to- benefits as a right. This type of system is frequently referred to as a “safety net,” which is designed to help the most vulnerable. The welfarewelfarewelfare statestatestate is socialist in nature. It redistributes wealth by heavily taxing the middle and upper classes in order to provide goods and services for those seen as underprivileged. However, even countries that don’t typically subscribe to socialism offer at least some form of safety net, most of which continue to expand. One example is the United States, which according to many European countries, is found lacking when it comes to altruism in government. The truth is that the welfarewelfarewelfare statestatestate on a federal level is the antithesis of personal liberty, at least according to the U.S. Constitution, which enumerates specific powers granted to the federal government. The Tenth Amendment grants all other powers to the states, “or to the people.” This means that individual states should be in charge of their own welfarewelfarewelfare programs, rather than the central government. While some nations believe that creating a welfarewelfarewelfare statestatestate is the proper role of any central government, few have managed to create efficient systems. They are unable to provide equitably for all their citizens, often leaving those most in need with the least. Rationing of goods and services also becomes a major problem when too many people depend on the welfarewelfarewelfare statestatestate. All advanced societies view helping people who literally cannot help themselves as decent, humane, and necessary. Yet, another serious issue with the welfarewelfarewelfare statestatestate philosophy is that many people who are capable of caring for themselves have no motivation to improve their lives when they can depend on the government to provide for them. This often breeds resentment amongst those who do work when they are forced to pay for people who do not, via ever-increasing taxes. Such a system can fuel class warfare and prevent equality instead of obtaining it. The concept of the welfarewelfarewelfare statestatestate may appear to be a good model on paper. However, the reality of creating a truly equitable statestatestate has thus far been impossible to achieve. |
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dragoness, No google! My definition was first, the rest is reference for anyone who cares to read. Sorry if I messed it up somehow. |
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I'll put some stuff here but first I have to run some errands
I'll be back after I pick up my Social Security Check and my foodstamps, and I have to stop by the Medicare office |
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I'll put some stuff here but first I have to run some errands I'll be back after I pick up my Social Security Check and my foodstamps, and I have to stop by the Medicare office Okay.... lets spin off of Medicare and Social Security... Are these 'welfare'? |
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I'll put some stuff here but first I have to run some errands I'll be back after I pick up my Social Security Check and my foodstamps, and I have to stop by the Medicare office |
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