Topic: Enough is enough already...
cashu's photo
Wed 09/16/09 06:22 PM


Illegal Immigrant AKA, Undocumented. To the best of my knowledge, undocumented means they came here with no Identification. If I go into the ER , I have to present a Drivers License.

To get a new drivers license, I had to show a Birth Cirtificate.

BHO would like to leave out verifying of Citizenship in hopes of keeping Hispanic support.

Remember, if an Illegal has an ID or SSN, it's stolen.

How much time would a Citizen get for using someone elses SSN??


now, now sunshine

why is it that you equate illegal status w/hispanics?

pretty derogatory if you ask me, so many countries to pick from but you always end up on the $h!t on hispanic train.

when I talk about illegals i'm talking about all of them . I want them all gone which includs canadains and euro's

heavenlyboy34's photo
Wed 09/16/09 06:23 PM
I would appreciate a good fistfight in Congress, like they do in Europe! laugh laugh laugh

JustAGuy2112's photo
Wed 09/16/09 06:37 PM


if you listen close you can hear em yelling "liar" at Bush

this Joe Wilson stuff is a little bit worse but still just a continuation of what both are doing.

what I'm hearing is "do as I say and not as I do"

"it's okay for us cause we're justified. But it's extremism when they do it"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0xO-ZQSoP8


Sounds like a bunch of unruly children who never had any home schooling. Is it too late for the much needed spankins? LOL


Can't do that. The bleeding hearts would start screaming that we were abusing them and we'd have to pay for all the therapy they would need.

Winx's photo
Wed 09/16/09 06:55 PM



Illegal Immigrant AKA, Undocumented. To the best of my knowledge, undocumented means they came here with no Identification. If I go into the ER , I have to present a Drivers License.

To get a new drivers license, I had to show a Birth Cirtificate.

BHO would like to leave out verifying of Citizenship in hopes of keeping Hispanic support.

Remember, if an Illegal has an ID or SSN, it's stolen.

How much time would a Citizen get for using someone elses SSN??


now, now sunshine

why is it that you equate illegal status w/hispanics?

pretty derogatory if you ask me, so many countries to pick from but you always end up on the $h!t on hispanic train.

when I talk about illegals i'm talking about all of them . I want them all gone which includs canadains and euro's


You live in Farmington. The illegals aren't a problem there, are they? You only have about 1% Hispanics living there.

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Wed 09/16/09 07:01 PM
Edited by willing2 on Wed 09/16/09 07:03 PM




Illegal Immigrant AKA, Undocumented. To the best of my knowledge, undocumented means they came here with no Identification. If I go into the ER , I have to present a Drivers License.

To get a new drivers license, I had to show a Birth Cirtificate.

BHO would like to leave out verifying of Citizenship in hopes of keeping Hispanic support.

Remember, if an Illegal has an ID or SSN, it's stolen.

How much time would a Citizen get for using someone elses SSN??


now, now sunshine

why is it that you equate illegal status w/hispanics?

pretty derogatory if you ask me, so many countries to pick from but you always end up on the $h!t on hispanic train.

when I talk about illegals i'm talking about all of them . I want them all gone which includs canadains and euro's


You live in Farmington. The illegals aren't a problem there, are they? You only have about 1% Hispanics living there.


Anywhere, any number of Illegals are a problem.
I would go as far as claiming, Pro-Illegals are Anti-American. Protecting the interests of Mexico over the Unemployed, homeless and inferm US Citizens and Legal Immigrants.

I will go even farther and claim;
Not enforcing and upholding Immigration Law is a Threat to National Security.

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Wed 09/16/09 07:02 PM


Rep. Joe Wilson shouted "You lie!" after Obama denied that his health care proposal would cover illegal immigrants. He apologized in an interview and once to an Obama staffer for his behavior not for his view.

Obama accepted the apology though it was not face to face. Now some want a formal apology. Why? What the hell is that going to accomplish accept to satisfy people that love the idea of public humiliation. A forced apology is as good as no apology, and distracts from the task at hand.

Both sides of the isle do this and it's just unproductive and childish.

Every damn news channel is wasting our time with something that should have been dropped the very next day. ugh
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It's rooted in dialectics. It keeps the stupid masses from noticing that the government is ripping them off. mad


They have been doing this for generations---the masses will never get it-- Thats the point of dialestics- drinker drinker smokin

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Wed 09/16/09 11:07 PM


Rep. Joe Wilson shouted "You lie!" after Obama denied that his health care proposal would cover illegal immigrants. He apologized in an interview and once to an Obama staffer for his behavior not for his view.

Obama accepted the apology though it was not face to face. Now some want a formal apology. Why? What the hell is that going to accomplish accept to satisfy people that love the idea of public humiliation. A forced apology is as good as no apology, and distracts from the task at hand.

Both sides of the isle do this and it's just unproductive and childish.

Every damn news channel is wasting our time with something that should have been dropped the very next day. ugh

kick him while he down ..a few more kicks and he well have 3 million dollars . I have a check in the mail to him right now .. I don't know about any one else but I don't vote just to have congress over ride it . thats not in the constution .....



What did you vote for? I wouldn't send a liar a check, personally.

Actually I have since taken it all back. The guy is an opertunistic twit. He admited he was wrong, called Obama's cheif of staff and apologized. I figured if Obama was satisfied, so was I. But then he proceeded to continue the same damn lie and the right stood by while he said he was a immigration lawyer and turns out he was never and immigration lawyer but a realestate lawyer. He calls Obama a liar when he himself is a lied right to the camera. Sure the right is making him a hero, that was expected. LOL

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Wed 09/16/09 11:16 PM





Illegal Immigrant AKA, Undocumented. To the best of my knowledge, undocumented means they came here with no Identification. If I go into the ER , I have to present a Drivers License.

To get a new drivers license, I had to show a Birth Cirtificate.

BHO would like to leave out verifying of Citizenship in hopes of keeping Hispanic support.

Remember, if an Illegal has an ID or SSN, it's stolen.

How much time would a Citizen get for using someone elses SSN??


now, now sunshine

why is it that you equate illegal status w/hispanics?

pretty derogatory if you ask me, so many countries to pick from but you always end up on the $h!t on hispanic train.

when I talk about illegals i'm talking about all of them . I want them all gone which includs canadains and euro's


You live in Farmington. The illegals aren't a problem there, are they? You only have about 1% Hispanics living there.


Anywhere, any number of Illegals are a problem.
I would go as far as claiming, Pro-Illegals are Anti-American. Protecting the interests of Mexico over the Unemployed, homeless and inferm US Citizens and Legal Immigrants.

I will go even farther and claim;
Not enforcing and upholding Immigration Law is a Threat to National Security.


I would wager that the anger and nasty tone of angry white americans can be a threat to our country as well. I do believe it's unfair to legal immigrants and hispanic americans, but again the ugly exchange by angry white americans against illegals can cause just as much of a backlash.

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Wed 09/16/09 11:59 PM

Discussion afterward, by those who have actually read the proposed bill, was about the part of no insurance for illegal aliens. The part was read about no insurance provided for the illegals however it does say that there is no real way to verify the status of people. This leads me to believe that the illegals will continue to be covered. Also, discussion has ensued about that little thing in the constitution about babies being born in the US automatically being a US citizen. Research has shown that this was added not for babies from parents who are not already citizens. It was to ensure that those babies born to slaves would be considered citizens. It was a form of protection for them.


Do you have the information on when this insurance took place? I was sure the children of property were still property.

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Thu 09/17/09 12:09 AM
wrong but you're entitled to your opinion, does not make it a fact - but oh well.

Deport all illegal immigrants, you, me and everyone - start over, because this time around things are not going so well.
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/i believe anyone who is in the country illegally should be deported unless it is a matter of political asylum. I am not here illegally, as I was born here , have gone through the channels to be counted (ie, birth certificate and social security number) and pay taxes.\
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I understand the analogy about peoples ANCESTORS taking things and land,, but that is not relevant to the problems we have NOW with some people having to abide by rules and others not. Especially since my ancestors didnt steal anything here, I take issue with the broad statement.

With our population we need some way to keep checks and balances and for everyone to be counted. We wouldnt just leave our front doors open to anyone who wanted to walk into our home, I dont understand why the countries borders should be left completely open and unchecked either. It is completely a slap in the face to all who wait patiently through the immigration process to excuse so many others from ever having to as long as they slip under the radar getting here. We need laws applied consistently and we do need to have a way to account for who is here and how they are treated in housing , employment, healthcare,,etc,,,


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Fri 09/18/09 07:53 AM
enough is enough already......
I am a white male American. Because of this fact, and if I was to say that I am anti-Obama, they automatically call me a racesist. Humm. Me not being a racesist, that really bothers me. I think that the people that screams raceisum all the time are the people that are racesist. Humm, Have you noticed that when in a debate or conversation, when the racesist party is losing, what do they scream? RACESIST! Sorry folks not trying to offend anyone. I'll invite anyone to read my blogs, that will definitively show my position on this subject. Ok sorry, short and sweet..... There's only one race, the human race:)

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Fri 09/18/09 04:05 PM

enough is enough already......
I am a white male American. Because of this fact, and if I was to say that I am anti-Obama, they automatically call me a racesist. Humm. Me not being a racesist, that really bothers me. I think that the people that screams raceisum all the time are the people that are racesist. Humm, Have you noticed that when in a debate or conversation, when the racesist party is losing, what do they scream? RACESIST! Sorry folks not trying to offend anyone. I'll invite anyone to read my blogs, that will definitively show my position on this subject. Ok sorry, short and sweet..... There's only one race, the human race:)


I would wonder more about your chioce of words.

(if i say I am anti-Obama)

not sure, but curious why you would say it in that way. I voted for Obama, I didn't tell people I was Anti-McCain/palin..

When you say: Me not being a racisist, that really bothers me. I hope you realize you just said 'it bothers you that you are not a racist'. :smile:

I will agree there is only one race, the human race. I have a feeling that you might have been in a hurry when you replied. flowerforyou


netuserlla's photo
Fri 09/18/09 06:53 PM


enough is enough already......
I am a white male American. Because of this fact, and if I was to say that I am anti-Obama, they automatically call me a racesist. Humm. Me not being a racesist, that really bothers me. I think that the people that screams raceisum all the time are the people that are racesist. Humm, Have you noticed that when in a debate or conversation, when the racesist party is losing, what do they scream? RACESIST! Sorry folks not trying to offend anyone. I'll invite anyone to read my blogs, that will definitively show my position on this subject. Ok sorry, short and sweet..... There's only one race, the human race:)


I would wonder more about your chioce of words.

(if i say I am anti-Obama)

not sure, but curious why you would say it in that way. I voted for Obama, I didn't tell people I was Anti-McCain/palin..

When you say: Me not being a racisist, that really bothers me. I hope you realize you just said 'it bothers you that you are not a racist'. :smile:

I will agree there is only one race, the human race. I have a feeling that you might have been in a hurry when you replied. flowerforyou





LoL. I'm sorry now that I look at it. And yes I was In a hurry, My time is limited and hecktic at times:)Thank you for bringing that out, my mistake could have been mistook:)

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Fri 09/18/09 07:56 PM

Show me a final bill that makes everyone provide an ID to get healthcare!

Make it mandatory to get any healthcare you must prove citizenship!

Until then illegals will still be able to get healthcare!

So in his address to congress when Obama said illegals wont be covered under his plan did he lie? He called those who say in this bill illegals will be covered liers.
by the way it sounds to me like you all dont want these ppl to have health care , so what do you expect them to do die on the streets?

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Fri 09/18/09 07:58 PM


Show me a final bill that makes everyone provide an ID to get healthcare!

Make it mandatory to get any healthcare you must prove citizenship!

Until then illegals will still be able to get healthcare!

So in his address to congress when Obama said illegals wont be covered under his plan did he lie? He called those who say in this bill illegals will be covered liers.
by the way it sounds to me like you all dont want these ppl to have health care , so what do you expect them to do die on the streets?


that would block traffic

can't they do it on the sidewalks?

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Fri 09/18/09 08:01 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Fri 09/18/09 08:02 PM

Discussion afterward, by those who have actually read the proposed bill, was about the part of no insurance for illegal aliens. The part was read about no insurance provided for the illegals however it does say that there is no real way to verify the status of people. This leads me to believe that the illegals will continue to be covered. Also, discussion has ensued about that little thing in the constitution about babies being born in the US automatically being a US citizen. Research has shown that this was added not for babies from parents who are not already citizens. It was to ensure that those babies born to slaves would be considered citizens. It was a form of protection for them.
:smile: Wrong.:smile: babies born to slaves were considered slaves.:smile: And they were bought and sold as property:smile:

Winx's photo
Fri 09/18/09 08:01 PM
Edited by Winx on Fri 09/18/09 08:04 PM
Oops.

netuserlla's photo
Fri 09/18/09 08:01 PM
lol:)

tanyaann's photo
Fri 09/18/09 08:08 PM
It is actually illegal to call someone a liar or say they lied in a congressional hearing. First time it has happened (not to say that they don't say it among themselves), but to shout out at a president with the intent of calling him a liar in a congressional hearing is a 'no-no'.

Now grant... in english parliment they boo and yell, Japanese legislatures actually punch it out! And don't get me start on most south american legislative bodies!

But in the US, there are protocols written right in for behavior and procedure in legislative things/meetings etc.

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 09/18/09 08:09 PM

Oops.
mad YOU LIE!!!!!mad




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