This is what's happening to us:

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I was floored by the republican response, it was as if he wrote it 'before' the speech. This man should be ashamed of his response.

As for the regurgitation comments, he said a lot more than he has and covered points that I wanted to hear as well, especially about law suites about illegals not being covered, about everyone having to obtain insurance. I was actually one of the best speeches I have hear on this issue. If the republicans that have fostered BS about this plan continue to do so, I will be amazed at their lack of conscience and their steadfast loyalty to the insurance industry.

There are 165 amendments offered by republicans in this bill, so if they continue to bash this plan they should all be ashamed.

I am reminded once again why I respect this President as a human being so much.

Did you see him speak tonight?

LOL, it sure doesn't feel too good huh? All of us "normal" folks have been at the mercy of the Republicans in this country for a long long time. Republicans/Conservatives feel they are the moral superior in this country, they feel they are the fiscal superior in this country, they feel they have the right to shove everything they feel is better for ALL down our throats, election after election, they push and shove and try to make everyone feel like they have something wrong with them because they are not like "the republican/conservatives" who by their own admission know what is best for the world and we should all be "happy" they impose their rules on us daily.

Obama should stop being nice to these folks, they have never considered being nice to anyone who did not fit them.

I did not call anyone any names. Liberalism is Socialism. I found that fact in the encyclopedia.

YES

So two wrongs make it right?

Do me a favor then:

Name one, just one economically conservative principle you agree with.


And then explain to me why this healthcare plan will not fail.

Ok. So this is gonna bea " tit for tat " kinda thing.

WTF is this?? Grade school???

" We didn't get OUR way before. Now we can make THEM do what we want. "

Who freaking CARES who thinks what about who???

This isn't about being " superior. This is about the country as a whole.

Take your head out of the sand. Look at the facts and see that this is just not a good idea.

I am all for covering the uninsured. But not the way they are proposing to do it.

Andrew, I would have thought that you of all people would have found more favor in this speech. I respect you and your concerns, I think you know that.

Seriously. He is not wanting this to raise the deficit, he is not wanting this to go through with out republican support, he has bent over backward to take their ideas into account on all but two things, the public plan, and ... forgive me it's late and I can't think of the other.

I know there has to be republicans out there that could work with this plan, there has to be, I just don't see them in the media, instead I see those that pretend to be concerned then say something that stabs him in the back. It just doesn't seem right.

I too would love to see this be bipartisan, good ideas on both sides as part of the plan, but all I see are republicans that can't go five minutes before they are spewing the same old false claims they have been making for 2 months. It's so frustrating. I am not one to just fall for anything on either side, but I really do think this president seriously is looking out for people, not the insurance companies and the special interests.

The Republicans just keep saying, "NO", to anything that Obama wants to do. But....they offer no solutions!!!! They are not helping the situation!

I just saw where Obama was called a liar in front of the world when Obama said that illegals wouldn't be covered. These are the people that he's working with? They are making themselves look even more stupid with their actions and non-actions, IMO.

I think that when you see this level of obstruction and unwillingness to work with Obama on this, at some point you have no choice. Because you don't see how this could work doesn't mean that it can not. That many people in Washington cheering means that there is a ton of support and they can't all be wrong, yet when they faced the cameras' to the republicans you could almost see steam coming out of the tops of their heads. The only time they stood up and cheered, well half assed cheered, was when Obama talked about reigning in law suites.

Why? I can't understand this.

I don't care what they are, liberal, conservative, republican, democrat, for heaven sakes work it out and get it done.

I don't think Obama really wants the republican support. I think they have become pawns in his evil scheme

if his plan works he can tout his leadership skills in the face of adversity

if his plan fails he can blame it on the republican obstinacy

Winx did you hear that someone yelling in very loudly (did he yell "Liar"? ) , while the speech and everybody was shaking his heads?

I can't believe the immaturity in the EFFIN Congress!!! I thought this is the most serious place of all in USA with the most serious people the USA can muster to deal with the most serious issues, which has a worldwide effect.
I just can't f...ing believe it!!

I actually participated in Welfare Reform which made it impossible to lay around and get welfare, economically fiscally conservative ideal done under Clinton. I believe in regulation on all government run programs that limit the clients who can recieve the benefits. I am never prejudice towards them and call them lazy or blame them for the life situation ( which seems to be a republican/conservative thing to do)that got them on benefits. But I believe in the oversight which is fiscally conservative.

I can name more but I will leave it at that.

As for the healthcare reform bills and suggestions being addressed now. The projections cannot even be close to accurate so the people doing them are being very pessimistic on the costs and results.

This health care reform can be done and should be. We may have to adjust it again in the future since it will be new but it will still work.

Look back and see how pessimistically they projected the banking collapse, look back at the housing bubble, look at the pessimism on the stock market projections, look at the Y2K fiasco, etc... and so on.

They have been pessimistically projecting crap, and it ends up being crap, for the most part, all my life. I think the only things that were not projected correctly were the gas shortage of the 70s and that damn 9/11, which could have been prevented if they would have only examined it and got really pessimistic over the intel. Hell they did more work trying to make Obama some evil figure than they did protecting us before and on 9/11

I haven't heard the whole speech yet. But...I did hear a man holler, "Liar" to him while he was speaking. I was disgusted by the lack of respect. My child has better manners then that. Is that what you're referring to?

Well these are folks that absolutely can not let go of their opposition to this president and anything he says. I don't pay any attention to them. I want only to hear from thoughtful people on both sides. Obama has incorporated 165 republican amendments to this bill, that shows his willingness to work with both sides.

Obama said we have a mutual responsibility to deal with this issue once and for all, and frankly his is right.

There was a point when Obama stopped talking and looked to the left side and Biden and Pelosi were shaking their head and I could even see Obama getting kinda surprised, than he looked pssd off (no surprise) and you could hear some booing coming from the rest.

thats a good sheeple keep on thinkin that way and ull make a great slave 4 the eleat to manipulate.

Does anyone remember the part where the Republicans held up some papers? What was that all about? I think it was right after they finally stood to halfassed cheer his discussion of law suites.