self esteem is the key.
what it's outside grows old and then u r messed up.
self esteem suppose to stay the same

hey, John....

I dunno. Relationships take two to succeed. So maybe it is something you
do, or both of you, or she....

Do you, attract weirdos? What is your sense of that?

If you were on your own, which in a sense we all are, how would you be
feeling about your self?

Glad to talk via email, if you prefer....this stuff isn't easy, I know.

Oceans

Oceans
YES without a doubt I attract weirdos.....they just hide it
good for the fist 6 months or so.
Its not that I have bad or low self ...I just want to feel IT more. If
that makes any kinda sense. I think going to the gym is a good idea, if
the body feels good the mind should too.
Thanks for listening!!!!!!!!
John

go to the local food shelf or shelter and ask to do some volunteer stuff
i love doing it !! you can go any day you feel like and help out with
something !!!!!

i get filthy dirty sometimes doin my work and it would be nice if i
could give my self asteam.

Well, we all hide it good for the first six months, John!

You know, I went through a very rough patch some years ago, and the
thing that most pulled me out was tackling some minor but peristent
irritants in the way I was living. Small things, like not clearing my
stairs of accumulated magazines, books, hats, mail... I realized I was
stumbing around them. One day I saw that mess for what it was and vowed
that if nothing else I would clean it up that same day. I did and could
not believe the sense of relief that swept over me. Of course, this was
just a small thing. But the staircase looked better, and my feet could
walk up and down those stairs without worry that I was going to step on
something. And, it FELT good.

I guess now that I've written this I'll go look for another small thing
today!

Another trick I found was to give things away. An act of altruism fires
off in our brains the same areas that are associated with eating and
sex....

Have a great day, bro!

Oceans

sure fire:

1. do something that makes you feel positive about what you're doing and
who you are - i.e. do something *really nice* for someone - tell
yourself that you can do this because you are a valuable and caring and
essentially good person

rinse and repeat

2. avoid doing anything hurtful to yourself or others

allow yourself to take pride in those nice things you do and for
avoiding hurtful behavior

life is not so much of a journey as project of building yourself. make
yourself great. be exceptional.

Nice approach, Hand.

Oceans

Don't feel bad, I broke all my mirrors and the camera, too. :)

Everything starts with knowing yourself. Throroughly. Knowledge is
power. the more you know about yourself, the more empowered you are.
You cannot expect others to know you and then tell you what you are all
about. We can all tell you what to do or how to do it, but at the endo
of the day, it all comes down to knowing yourself.

I recommend, if you can, to read the book "The Alchemist" by Paulo
Coelho. You'll be surprised, how perfectly it fits.

wish you luck in your self discovery.

First you have to know, if you are making a self-image change, it must
be because that it is what YOU, and YOU alone want. You are not doing it
to please someone. Then, love and appreciate yourself. Do things for
yourself, things that make you feel better. Buy yourself some clothes,
new hairstyle, go to the gym, and socialize.
Those are some of the things I've done and it works. I know we all get
into those days in which we don't feel very good about our image, but
that it is normal. We all have those days.

So, remember, first, you do it because that it's what YOU want and
because you’re doing it for YOURSELF.

Good luck

One thing is being on JSH and making friends here will help your self
image. Because the people here are great and will like you and accept
you for the person you are, thats a great start.Then you can take it the
rest of the way for yourself.

Auburn

scottie and auburn

John, read this every morning!! It did wonders for me..

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I May Not Be
by Bobby7

I may not be the smartest man that ever walked this Earth.
But, I examine all the facts, to determine what they're worth.

I may not the kind of man that would stand out in the crowd,
But, I'll always stand behind my friends, and, of that, I'm very proud.

I may not be the kind of man to pass each and every test,
But I am the kind of man who will always give his best.

I may not the kind of man you'd want for company,
I'm a rough around the edges, and that's the way I'll always be.

So, if you stop to chat with me; and if I seem uncouth.
Just fire away your questions, and you'll always hear the truth.

I may not be the kind of man you'd like to call your friend,
But, I'm there each time I'm called upon, and I'll be there 'til the end

And if you think I'm not the man that you think I should be,
Well, when I look into a mirror, a nice man's looking back at me.

I may not be a lot of things that you would have me be...
Diversity's the "Spice of Life"...

That's why You're You...and I am me.
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I really like this, thanks for sharing it. :)

of all the books that may help

i would suggest

og mandino ------ the university of success

it has condensed versions of many self help books

one chapter each

then if you like the concept

get the original book and read it

WOW
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks to each and every one of you!
John